Limerick Desmond League 2012/13

[fanaticfan]

killarney down to ten men is that right draper

[Draper]

killarney down to ten men is that right draper

Yes Kilarney player got 2 yellows in the 1st half. Still nil nil, half an hour to play....

[Draper]

1;1
Kilarney scored, Broadford equalised straight away, not sure if t'was Ray or Shakka that scored...

[fanaticfan]

Not bad. Drive it on and beat them

[Draper]

1:1

Heading for extra time....

[Draper]

Broadford win 5;4 on penalties.....

Well done young Patrick Stack who saved 3 penalties today....

[fanaticfan]

Nice one. Fair play

[Aldo]

Very tough asks in the FAI for the Desmond teams....Tramore from waterford....they have been the top team in waterford the last few seasons....and are current leaders
Tramore beaten today in FAI by Villa Fc .

[fanaticfan]

Seen on the fai thread that villa beat tramore. Ncw away to villa in next round and broadford won also. Great result for them. Home to a team from dublin in the next round.killeaney look to be in trouble after todays defeat to glin. Who scored for glin anyone know?

[western gale]

Saturday, December 1st

FAI Umbro Youths Cup 2nd Round
Killarney Celtic V Rathkeale, walkover to Killarney

MFA Champions Trophy Final
Pike Rovers 4 St Brendans Park 0 (in Clounreask)


Sunday, December 2nd

FAI Umbro Cup 4th Round
Killarney Celtic 1 Broadford Utd 1 aet (Broadford won 5-4 on pens)

Munster Junior Cup 3rd Round
Newcastle West Rovers V Newcastle West off

Richard Hogan Cup 2nd Round
Abbeyfeale Utd V Feenagh off

Reidy Cup Quarter Finals
Broadford Utd B 5 Newcastle West B 2
Glantine 3 Breska Rovers 4

Richard Hogan Cup Quarter Finals
Carrig Celtic B 1 Pallaskenry 1 aet. (Carrig B won 5-4 on pens)
Kilcornan B V Ferry Rangers off

Division 1 League Cup 1st Round
Askeaton 1 Athea Utd 3
St Itas V Kilcornan off

Division 4 League Cup 1st Round 1st Leg
Shountrade V Newcastle West Rovers B off

Premier Division
Killeaney 0 Glin Rovers 2 (played in Glin)
(John A Culhane sent off for Glin when game was scoreless,
late goals from Brian O'Donovan and Padraig Costello)

Division 1
Rockhill Rovers V Kildimo Utd off
Old Mill V Adare Utd off

Division 2
Rathkeale Reserves V Ballysteen off

Division 3
Athea Utd B 3 Knockaderry 0

Division 4
Shannonside B V Feenagh B off

[last man back]

I know it's not always easy getting a youth team together but rathkeale giving a walkover in the fai youths cup is disrespectful to the team they beat in earlier rounds.

[walkover]

Went to go and watch the newcastle rovers vs newcastle afc game but no body there so must have been called off

Both newcastle rovers and afc fields called by ref this morning to be unplayable

[super6]

is that a new keeper draper ? sounds like ye were lucky they missed a peno and had a man sent off in the first half,they must have been well organised to play the bones of 70 mins with 10 men,

[Desmonder]

Did John A Culhane get 2 yellows or straight red?

[Draper]

is that a new keeper draper ? sounds like ye were lucky they missed a peno and had a man sent off in the first half,they must have been well organised to play the bones of 70 mins with 10 men,
New to the A team yes but he's a young lad from Drom playing underage all along. As for being lucky, saving a penalty is not lucky, its a rather good skill. Luck also doesnt come into the equasion just because one of them commits 2 yellow card offences against you. And penalty shoot outs aint about luck either, its part of the game.(Young Stack also saved 2 penalties in the shootout) I would agree however they were a good organised set up with the best grounds I've ever seen around...

[BoyBlue]

I know it's not always easy getting a youth team together but rathkeale giving a walkover in the fai youths cup is disrespectful to the team they beat in earlier rounds.


Ridiculous, same manager as our Desmond Youth side aswell I believe,says a lot for our league that.

[soccer8]

res 8/9 December 2012

ALL FIXTURES are subject to alteration until published in the Weekly Observer.

Saturday 8th December
FAI Youths Cup 2nd Round (extra time & penalties)
St. Brendans Park V Newcastle West 2pm, Christy Leahy Park, Tralee

Munster Youths Cup 3rd Round (extra time & penalties)
Adare Utd V Abbeyfeale Utd 2pm (T. Fitzmaurice)

Youths Division 2 League Cup Quarter Finals (extra time & penalties)
Carrig Celtic V Creeves Celtic 2pm (Eoin Barrett)
Ferry Rangers V Bally Rovers 2pm (P. O’Donnell)
St. Itas V Askeaton 2pm (C. Dalton)

Sunday 9th December
FAI Junior Cup 5th Round (extra time & penalties)
Villa FC V Newcastle West 2pm

Munster Junior Cup 3rd Round (extra time & penalties)
Killeaney V Broadford Utd 1130 (J. Roche)

Weekly Observer Division 1 League Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties)
St. Itas V Kilcornan 2pm (P. O’Brien)

Weekly Observer Premier Division
Abbeyfeale Utd V Newcastle West Rovers 1130 (P. Manning)
Rathkeale V Glin Rovers 1130 (P. O’Brien)

Weekly Observer Division 1
Rockhill Rovers V Kildimo Utd 1130 (D. O’Gorman)

Weekly Observer Division 2
Broadford Utd B V Feenagh 1130 (C. Dalton)
Ballysteen V Abbeyfeale Utd B 230 (L. O’Connor)
Pallaskenry V Rathkeale B 230 (D. O’Gorman)

Weekly Observer Division 3
Kilcornan B V Knockaderry 1130 (P. King)
Ferry Rangers V Ballingarry B 230 (S. Hartnett)

Weekly Observer Division 4
Newcastle West Rovers B V Shannonside FC B 230 (P. O’Donnell)
St. Itas B V Bally Rovers in Ballyhahill 1130 (E. Barrett)
Glin Rovers B V Feenagh B 230 (B. Nash)

[Langerdan007]

If this rain doesnt stop it'll play havoc with the weekend fixtures!
We've had a game called off 2 weeks in a row!

[snafu]

If this rain doesnt stop it'll play havoc with the weekend fixtures!
We've had a game called off 2 weeks in a row!

Ya its that time of year unfortunately... any fields that were playable last week will probably be in bad condition this weekend.
Most leagues seem to be about halfway through their fixtures for the season so thats on about par.

This is why there is Fri-Sun-Fri fixtures at the start of the season, to allow for the last few weekends.

I reckon there wont be much soccer played til the new year. :snowman::bottle:

[nathanbrown]

looking down through the fixtures I cant see any game being played. Of all the home teams only Broadford B have a pitch likely to hold up. Killeaney I would have thought would be ok but didnt they have their game moved last week.
There will be another big backlog at the end of the season again

[super6]

@ draper.. its all about opinions i suppose, i would say penalties is pure lottery and luck and all on the day.. fare play to the keeper for a young lad and first appearence in a big match to save 3 penos.

[super6]

Ya could be a blanket call off this weekend with all the rain,, NCW and villa will probably go ahead as its FAI.

[fanaticfan]

I agree. Penalties is nothing but pure luck. Goalie dives and hopes for the best on saving them. And fair play to the young goalkeeper on saving 3 penalties. Looks like there will be no games for a few weeks unless the teams in the munster junior and fai junior games have to be played

[Draper]

I agree. Penalties is nothing but pure luck. Goalie dives and hopes for the best on saving them. And fair play to the young goalkeeper on saving 3 penalties. Looks like there will be no games for a few weeks unless the teams in the munster junior and fai junior games have to be played

Anyone else on here think penalties are "nothing but pure luck"?
Sorry but I cant agree....

[snafu]

A good player has a better chance of scoring a penalty than an average player.
A good keeper has a better chance of saving a penalty than an average keeper.

There is some skill required for penalty shootouts no doubt, but there is also luck required.
You need both really.

[PatRooney]

I was talking to the Rathkeale Youths manager yesterday and he told me that he only has a youths panel of 12/13 players and in both of there games this season only 11 players togged out.. they also don't have a team entered in the league so its clear that they would be stuck for numbers. he then said that they were missing 4 for the trip to killarney so there was no way of filling a team and hence no point of travelling down especially when the club were charging each player 15euro for the bus down. what would the point be of them paying that much money to travel down with 8 or 9 players to get hammered? Last Man Back It is disrespectful to the team they beat in the earlier rounds but i doubt that they planned to give a walkover after winning their first few games. BoyBlue how does this have anything to do with him being the desmond youths manager?

[snafu]

Why do rathkeale only have 12/13 youth players?

[Langerdan007]

A blanket call off would be no harm till after xmas - Unless there is an extended spell of freezing weather and no rain any pitches that get played on now will most likely get cut up badly - cant see it though they will play the usual it'll mean cramming fixtures in at the end of the season card

On the Rathkeale Youths I couldnt believe they gave a walkover they normally have a strong youth team but is it a sign of the times????? Its getting harder and harder to keep young fella's playing after 16's
When the likes Rathkeale cant attract more than 13 players onto a squad with the facilities the club has and the relatively large surrounding area to draw from what hope have the smaller clubs!!

[BoyBlue]

Giving a walkover in the fai shows the league in a poor light,why bother entering these competitions if at some stage its inevitable you are going to give a walkover because you might get a hiding. What are we going to do if the Desmond youths draw Dublin's AUL, give a walkover because they are a better team. And knowing Rathkeale AFC I'd be surprised if the players had to pay for their own transport to games. This just shows the whole standard of youths football in our league is gone very very poor and unless something is done in a few years our junior league will be gone the Same way.

[Have It]

Thats an absolute disgrace a town with a pick like Rathkeale can't field a team for a youths game. They've always had good underage sides. The whole league from youths downwards needs to be reviewed. There is less and less good young players coming through to play junior soccer. I know there are a number of different reasons outside of football for this but its getting worse every year. The youngsters need more motivation, more incentive. For eg when I was underage myself many years ago, our then manager took a lot of time and effort to write a big piece in the observer about every game. All the players couldn't wait to read it to see if they got a mention. Nowadays most clubs with the exception of a few don't even report on their junior games never mind underage. It definitely kept lads interested and keen. Maybe teams need to make thing seem more attractive to younger lads because in fairness facilities have improved massively in the desmond league over the last few years.

[PatRooney]

Rathkeales Youths team is mainly made up of their under 16 team with 2 or 3 youths playing aswel.. so if there is a 16s game on the same morning as a youths game then they are in trouble to fill a team straight away.. If Rathkeale had 11 players for the trip to killarney im sure they would have travelled but whats the point of travelling down there with 8 or 9. Boyblue you must not know Rathkeale AFC very well so because anytime they need to get a bus to a match they always have to pay their own way. the walkover wasnt given because they were playing a better team.. and why would the desmond youths consider Dublin Auls as a better team.. thats a ridiculous statement.. As for people not believing that Rathkeale struggle for numbers at this age.. why do ye think they didnt enter a youths team in the league?

[Langerdan007]

Its not just Rathkeale though - youths in the whole league is gone poor numbers wise but its been coming for a number of years!!
Its nigh on impossible to keep lads interested it seems these days

@HaveIt - thats a good point on the reports and the Observer is good to print most of what they get - I try and do reports for our Junior games but I'm not at all the games for both teams - I can see why its not done though - at underage in most clubs there is a core of maybe 2 or 3 running the whole the show - in some cases i'd say parents have never been to a match to see their child play - pushing sport to a kid from 8-13/14 at home I think is vital - lot harder to develop this laissez faire attitude that a majority of young lads have nowadays

Kilcornan Youths were a fantastic team last season and have been up along but with a number going over age and a few moving there's no team this year and not for the foreseeable future either i'd say - Outside of NCW, Abbey and the other teams with big towns you might see a 4 or 5 team Youths division very soon!

[fanaticfan]

Some games should go ahead tomorrow over the weather being good today and yesterday. Tough game for ncw tomorrow. It would be nice for another Desmond win in the fai junior cup along with broadford

[nathanbrown]

Anyone else on here think penalties are "nothing but pure luck"?
Sorry but I cant agree....

I agree with you Draper. Its not all luck, there is an element of luck but theres an element of luck to soccer in general. Like anything else if you practice enough you will score more. Keepers do need a bit of luck but can have an effect on the penalty taker. Look at Pepe Reinas record with penalties, that cant be put down to pure luck. Same with RVP taking them, I think he is the best penalty taker in the premiership along with Balotelli. Not that im comparing them to desmond league players.

[Desmonder]

There used to be great battles in Youths with Rathkeale, Broadford, Glin Rvs, Abbey, Askeaton and so on. As Haveit correctly said, couldn't wait to see if you got a mention in Observer! Used be fierce competition within own team for places! Maybe am just looking back through rose tinted glasses, but those were the days! Also, play well with Youths on Saturday and get the call up for B or even A team on Sunday! Be proud as punch!

[western gale]

Saturday, December 8th

FAI Youths Cup 2nd Round
St Brendans Park 5 Newcastle West 1

Munster Youths Cup 3rd Round
Adare Utd V Abbeyfeale Utd off

Youths Division 2 League Cup Quarter Finals
Carrig Celtic 1 Creeves Celtic 5
Ferry Rangers 1 Bally Rovers 1 aet, Bally won 5-4 on pens
St Itas V Askeaton off

[Draper]

Munster Junior Cup 4th round

Kileaney:0 3:Broadford Utd.
Mattie O'Sullivan, Sean Downey, Alan Fitzpatrick.

[western gale]

Sunday, December 9th
FAI Junior Cup 5th Round
Villa FC V Newcastle West 2pm

Munster Junior Cup 3rd Round
Killeaney 0 Broadford Utd 3

Division 1 League Cup 1st Round
St Itas 4 Kilcornan 1

Premier Division
Abbeyfeale Utd 3 Newcastle West Rovers 0
Rathkeale 4 Glin Rovers 1

Division 1
Rockhill Rovers 2 Kildimo Utd 3

Division 2
Broadford Utd B 0 Feenagh 1
Ballysteen 1 Abbeyfeale Utd B 0
Pallaskenry 2 Rathkeale B 1

Division 3
Kilcornan B 0 Knockaderry 5
Ferry Rangers 0 Ballingarry B 4

Division 4
Newcastle West Rovers B 2 Shannonside B 6 (in Shanagolden)
St Itas B 0 Bally Rovers 5 (in Ballyhahill)
Glin Rovers B 4 Feenagh B 0

[western gale]

Sunday, December 9th

FAI Junior Cup 5th Round
Villa FC 3 Newcastle West 2

[western gale]

Sunday, December 16th

Munster Junior Cup 3rd Round (et & pens)
Newcastle West V Newcastle West Rovers 1130 (P. O’Connor)

Reidy Cup QF (et & pens)
Rockhill Rovers V Rathkeale Reserves 2pm (T. Fitzmaurice)

Richard Hogan Cup 2nd Round (et & pens)
Feenagh V Abbeyfeale Utd B 2pm (P. King)

Richard Hogan Cup QF (et & pens)
Ferry Rangers V Kilcornan B 2pm (P. Manning)

Premier Division League Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Newcastle West Rovers V Ballingarry 1130 (D. O’Gorman)
Shannonside V Broadford Utd 1130 (G. O’Connor)

Division 1
St Itas V Askeaton 1130 (S. Hartnett)
Adare Utd V Glantine 1130 (J. Molyneaux)
Athea Utd V Old Mill 1130 (P. O’Donnell)

Division 2
Carrig Celtic B V Ballysteen 230 (P. O’Brien)
Broadford Utd B V Newcastle West B 230 (J. Roche)

Division 3
Ballingarry B V Athea Utd B 230 (B. Nash)

Division 4
Feenagh B V Shannonside B in Shanagolden 1130 (E. Barrett)
Newcastle West Rovers B V Glin Rovers B 230 (C. Dalton)

[fanaticfan]

How can newcastle rovers be playing ballingarry and ncw afc on sunday? Rovers must be some team to play two games on same day

[Draper]

How can newcastle rovers be playing ballingarry and ncw afc on sunday? Rovers must be some team to play two games on same day
Squad rotation system lol....

[Horan01]

Missing from the above list is:

Weekly Observer Premier Division
Rathkeale V Carrig Celtic 1130 (D. O’Gorman)

[dutchie]

Rathkeales Youths team is mainly made up of their under 16 team with 2 or 3 youths playing aswel.. so if there is a 16s game on the same morning as a youths game then they are in trouble to fill a team straight away.. If Rathkeale had 11 players for the trip to killarney im sure they would have travelled but whats the point of travelling down there with 8 or 9. Boyblue you must not know Rathkeale AFC very well so because anytime they need to get a bus to a match they always have to pay their own way. the walkover wasnt given because they were playing a better team.. and why would the desmond youths consider Dublin Auls as a better team.. thats a ridiculous statement.. As for people not believing that Rathkeale struggle for numbers at this age.. why do ye think they didnt enter a youths team in the league?
In my day Rathkeale used to take players from all neighbouring clubs and made them successful,then they got a few from The county division as they were promised the sun moon and stars from a prominent Limerick county official but these days they cant seem to attract these players,maybe because all grounds have come up to scratch and players can see through the bull.... that they are promised,but numbers are down in every club,the days of 4/5 clubs battling for the league is well gone.

[western gale]

LEAGUE CUP DRAWS

Premier League Cup Q/Fs
Carrig Celtic v Newcastle West Rvs/Ballingarry
Glin Rvs v Rathkeale
Newcastle West v Killeaney
Shannonside/Broadford Utd v Abbeyfeale Utd

Division 1 League Cup Q/Fs
Glantine v Old Mill
Athea Utd v St Itas
Adare Utd v Breska Rvs
Rockhill Rvs v Kildimo Utd

Division 2 League Cup Q/Fs
Ballysteen/Broadford Utd B v Granagh Utd
Feenagh v Creeves Cel
Newcastle West B v Carrig Cel B/Abbeyfeale Utd B
Rathkeale Reserves v Pallaskenry

Reidy Cup S/Fs
Breska Rvs v Bally Rvs/Abbeyfeale Utd B
Rockhill Rvs/Rathkeale Reserves v Broadford Utd B

Hogan Cup S/Fs
Glin Rvs B v Carrig Cel B
Creeves Cel/Abbeyfeale Utd B/Feenagh v Kilcornan B/Ferry Rngs

[fanaticfan]

Sunday, December 16th

Munster Junior Cup 3rd Round (et & pens) Newcastle West V Newcastle West Rovers HOME

Reidy Cup QF (et & pens) Rockhill Rovers V Rathkeale Reserves 2pm HOME

Richard Hogan Cup 2nd Round (et & pens) Feenagh V Abbeyfeale Utd B 2pm AWAY

Richard Hogan Cup QF (et & pens) Ferry Rangers V Kilcornan B 2pm HOME

Premier Division League Cup 1st Round (et & pens) Shannonside V Broadford Utd 1130 AWAY

Division 1 St Itas V Askeaton 1130 HOME
Adare Utd V Glantine 1130 DRAW) Athea Utd V Old Mill 1130 HOME

Division 2 Carrig Celtic B V Ballysteen 230 AWAY
Broadford Utd B V Newcastle West B 230 HOME

Division 3 Ballingarry B V Athea Utd B 230 DRAW

Division 4 Feenagh B V Shannonside B in Shanagolden 1130 DRAW
Newcastle West Rovers B V Glin Rovers B AWAY

[thomas72]

Carew park v Newcastle west or newcastle rovers. MJC

[The1]

Carew park v Newcastle west or newcastle rovers. MJC
Neenagh Town/Celtic vs Broadford Utd

[fanaticfan]

What about ballingarry

[fanaticfan]

Ballincollig or College Corinthians v Ballingarry “A”