RTE Panel

[tetsujin1979]

Could have gone on a bit longer, but other than that I enjoyed it.

[tetsujin1979]

on RTE Player now: http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/euro-2016-two-shades-of-green-30004478/10667593/
might not be available to viewers outside the Republic

[DeLorean]

Could have gone on a bit longer, but other than that I enjoyed it.

Yeah, was there any programme for the qualification campaign? There was 'How many Yen to a Euro?' for 2002 & 'The Cat is in the Bag' for 2012.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Eamon Dunphy was told to go easy on MON during Euro 2016.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/eamon-dunphy-a-suit-from-rte-told-me-not-to-be-too-hard-on-martin-oneill-during-euro-2016-35334256.html

Just to balance all that positivity with some negativity.

[Lenny82]

That's complete ****** and if it is true, I doubt it was a genuine instruction from above. He is a spider of the highest order.

[Lenny82]

Spoofer, not a 'spider'!

[SkStu]

Haha spider works too!

[DeLorean]

I'm not really too hard on players, but I mean McCarthy and Whelan have been a problem for the team for years, since Trapattoni. They're two statues. They don't move, and we effectively only have nine men.

James McCarthy - The Statue (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/10000327/who-has-run-the-furthest-james-milner-has-covered-most-ground-in-premier-league)

[Yard of Pace]

I hated that documentary simply because Norn Iron.

Please let's not start thinking they're our pals...yuck

[DeLorean]

I suppose it was the first time the two teams from this Island qualified for the same tournament. I don't see the harm in embracing that fact but obviously wouldn't have been overly interested in the NI parts. Would have liked a programme specifically about us too though and combined with the qualification campaign.

There's another programme (http://entertainment.ie/tv-highlight/Euro-2016-Sounds-of-the-Summer/389588.htm) on RTE 2 about the Euros at 20:25 tonight. Sounds very similar though.


Euro 2016: Sounds of the Summer

Euro 2016 may feel like a long time ago now but the glorious memories the boys in green provided us will live long in the memory. Cillian Murphy presents this one off documentary special examines the spectacle that was the European Championships. Looking at both the Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland teams, the documentary uses exclusive behind the scenes footage and cutting edge audio technology document the whole campaign from beginning to end. Wes' goal against Sweden, Robbie's against the Italians, not to mention the contribution from the Irish fans - sit back and soak up what was perhaps our greatest ever performance in a major football tournament.

[DeLorean]

The programme is about the Euros in general, not the Irish teams. Looks promising.

[tetsujin1979]

wasn't bad, but it could have been marketed better, I had no idea it was on until yesterday.

[DeLorean]

Yeah I thought it was good. Some unusual camera angles and behind the scenes stuff.

[Closed Account]

Dunphy extremely negative pregame.
An added benefit if we win is that he should **** off

[DeLorean]

Just saw a clip from the RTÉ 'analysis' of the Barcelona Juventus game and Dunphy was in fine form. He had a good laugh at the victorious Juve team, pointing out all the "donkeys" they have and how Barcelona are in serious trouble if they can't beat the likes of them. Cuadrado, Khedira, Mandzukic and Higuain all made his shortlist.

Midstream he seemed to remember that he had previously tipped Juve to win the competition so pointed this out himself before anybody else could. He said something like "I had tipped them to win the competition actually but I don't think so after tonight". Strange to change his tune on a night where they comfortably maintained their three goal advantage against one of the tournament's favourites. Even more bizarre to have tipped a team full of donkeys to win the CL in the first place.

[jbyrne]

Just saw a clip from the RTÉ 'analysis' of the Barcelona Juventus game and Dunphy was in fine form. He had a good laugh at the victorious Juve team, pointing out all the "donkeys" they have and how Barcelona are in serious trouble if they can't beat the likes of them. Cuadrado, Khedira, Mandzukic and Higuain all made his shortlist.

Midstream he seemed to remember that he had previously tipped Juve to win the competition so pointed this out himself before anybody else could. He said something like "I had tipped them to win the competition actually but I don't think so after tonight". Strange to change his tune on a night where they comfortably maintained their three goal advantage against one of the tournament's favourites. Even more bizarre to have tipped a team full of donkeys to win the CL in the first place.

yes, thought Juve played the perfect game for an away team 3-0 up from the first leg. never really looked in trouble defensively, held onto the ball when they needed to and countered quite well at times

[seanfhear]

Just saw a clip from the RTÉ 'analysis' of the Barcelona Juventus game and Dunphy was in fine form. He had a good laugh at the victorious Juve team, pointing out all the "donkeys" they have and how Barcelona are in serious trouble if they can't beat the likes of them. Cuadrado, Khedira, Mandzukic and Higuain all made his shortlist.

Midstream he seemed to remember that he had previously tipped Juve to win the competition so pointed this out himself before anybody else could. He said something like "I had tipped them to win the competition actually but I don't think so after tonight". Strange to change his tune on a night where they comfortably maintained their three goal advantage against one of the tournament's favourites. Even more bizarre to have tipped a team full of donkeys to win the CL in the first place.Perhaps he was tired and emotional again........

[tetsujin1979]

I only saw the second half of the game, but thought he was a little too relaxed in his seat delivering his verdict at the end of the game.

[DeLorean]

And apparently it's the end of the Barcelona golden era again, just as it was when they lost 7-0 to Bayern in 2013, before coming back to win a treble in 2015.

[tetsujin1979]

Lot of people saying that. This was on football365 yesterday: http://www.football365.com/news/long-term-view-the-decline-of-barcelona

[DeLorean]

I suppose it's a natural reaction but people always jump the gun, surely 2013 is a recent enough life lesson not to write them off. Bayern were the unstoppable force apparently.

There's no doubt that Barca (along with the Spanish national team) peaked in that 2008-2012 period but I can't see any reason why they won't continue to mount a strong challenge.

[OwlsFan]

Noting to do with the Irish Panel (for a change) but two things caught my couch potato ear/eye over the weekend. The BBC interviewer on the field introduced the FA semi-final as a game between Spurs and Tottenham :)

Then there was an outrageous rant by Jeff Stelling on Sky, a Hartlepool supporter, while compering the Sky Sports Saturday programme demanding that the manager, David Jones, be sacked https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3391173/sky-sports-presenter-jeff-stelling-has-quit-his-post-as-hartlepool-united-president-after-his-side-lost-to-barnet-2-0/ To use your job as a presenter to demand that someone else should be sacked from their job is an abuse of his position.

[DeLorean]

Somebody on F365 (http://www.football365.com/news/has-jose-out-managed-pochettino-and-klopp) agrees with you there...


You went too far, Stelling…

On Saturday afternoon, Jeff Stelling went on a rant about the current state of affairs of Hartlepool United.

He went as far as to call for the manager Dave Jones to be removed/quit.

He then threw his toys out of the pram and said he would quit himself as honorary President of the club if it helped. These are his actual quotes:

“It’s not personal Dave, but for God’s sake, for the good of the club go now. “Walk now. It’s 13 points from 51 this is not your level of football. “[Pam Duxbury, the chairman, Gary Coxall, if he won’t walk then sack him …. do it today.”

Lo and behold, Dave Jones has quit today.

Am I alone in thinking this is disgraceful and a total lack of respect?

Now I don’t doubt for one minute that Stelling is a died in the wool Hartlepool fan, but this in my mind was beyond the pale.

Stelling is the host of Banterfest 2017 Soccer Saturday, a programme that I used to enjoy but now find full of uninformed imbeciles, with Stelling no better now.

The Merson/Thompson Marco Silva rant was their Jumping the Shark moment.

Imagine Gary Lineker went on MOTD on Saturday night and demanded the removal of Leicester’s manager.

The host is there to be impartial, to move things along, and to ask questions of the ‘experts’ to give more knowledge to the viewer, and to introduce the ad breaks.

Stelling is moving into Tim ‘Affecting the Game’ Lovejoy territory, and thinking he is the story. It went viral as the kids probably still say, and that was all fuel to Stelling’s ego fire. Look how this was reported in Twitter after a quick Google search.


Hartlepool part company with Dave Jones after Jeff Stelling called for his sacking in Soccer Saturday meltdown https://t.co/3RAqctjjIH pic.twitter.com/rF3g66dyHo (https://t.co/rF3g66dyHo)
— MailOnline Sport (@MailSport) April 24, 2017 (https://twitter.com/MailSport/status/856500523469557760)



Jeff Stelling has got his wish.

Hartlepool United confirm manager Dave Jones has left the club.

Full details https://t.co/qD4CrzrUrm pic.twitter.com/D8cdrNn5QI (https://t.co/D8cdrNn5QI)
— BBC Sport (@BBCSport) April 24, 2017 (https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/856450142643384320)



He is part of the problem while making out he is above it all. He encourages the likes of Merson and Thompson without challenging them. It’s not the first time, he made sarky comment about Villa recently and his ‘jokes’ are becoming more snide.

I know that this programme is probably aimed at the S*n readers, of which I am not, but I won’t be watching anymore.

I’ll leave the last word to Jones himself

“I’m fighting for my life, how about a bit of support Jeff, rather than the rubbish you are giving out?”

I am probably madder than I should be about this, but then again I probably shouldn’t have opened that second bottle of red last night.

DC, BAC

[OwlsFan]

Well, he isn't the first host to have had an agenda but I'll say no more about that topic. If I was Jones I would have stuck it out and tried to get the team out of trouble. Stelling should be ashamed of himself.

I watch the programme for the scores. I turn down the sound when Kamara or Thompson are almost having apoplexy when the ball has crossed the half way line in Bournemouth vs Southampton.

[backstothewall]

I just heard something I never thought I would hear...


I was wrong.

[DeLorean]

And what did this uncharacteristic act of humility relate to?

[backstothewall]

Cristiano Ronaldo.

Remember when CR was 18 and Eamon slated him, called him a show pony and said he would never amount to anything. Well he's had 14 years to think about it and he's decided he was wrong about that.

[seanfhear]

You wouldn't want Eamonn doing your scouting for you......:doh::doh:

[DeLorean]

Cristiano Ronaldo.

Remember when CR was 18 and Eamon slated him, called him a show pony and said he would never amount to anything. Well he's had 14 years to think about it and he's decided he was wrong about that.

He's gone full circle on Juve too, tipped them to win it, then inexplicably ruled them out after beating Barca 3-0 on aggregate because they're a team of donkeys, and now they're "magnificent" (https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/0504/872415-dunphy/).

[JoséConté]

”
“Ronaldo is a disgrace to the game. His petulance, temperament, throwing himself on the ground. It was a disgrace to professional football. This fella Ronaldo is a cod.” - Eamonn Dunphy.

Best cod you'll ever see Eamonn!

[geysir]

Monaco looking good for 3-1 now.

[DannyInvincible]

Dunphy was discussing Atlético Madrid earlier and was telling the RTÉ audience how they have traditionally been a "selling club". To illustrate his point, he plucked out of his arse (https://www.balls.ie/football/eamon-dunphy-diego-forlan-364757) the "example" of Atlético having "sold Diego Forlán to Manchester United quite a long time ago"... :rolleyes:

Of course, Forlán signed for United from Argentine club Independiente in 2002 before moving to Villareal in 2004 and then on to Atlético in 2007. His next club was Inter Milan in 2011.

[seanfhear]

Dunphy was discussing Atlético Madrid earlier and was telling the RTÉ audience how they have traditionally been a "selling club". To illustrate his point, he plucked out of his arse (https://www.balls.ie/football/eamon-dunphy-diego-forlan-364757) the "example" of Atlético having "sold Diego Forlán to Manchester United quite a long time ago"... :rolleyes:

Of course, Forlán signed for United from Argentine club Independiente in 2002 before moving to Villareal in 2004 and then on to Atlético in 2007. His next club was Inter Milan in 2011.
Your nitpicking now....Dumby doesn't need to do accuracy because that would entail knowing what he was talking about .

[DeLorean]

He also said Ancelotti was sacked despite winning La Liga I believe, which he never did.

[DeLorean]

RTÉ preview/analysis of the playoff defeat to The Netherlands at Anfield in 1995 - http://www.the42.ie/rte-ireland-holland-playoff-3391414-May2017/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDaGIYMxWlw

[OwlsFan]

43 minutes - hmmmm. Anything of interest ?

[DeLorean]

I only watched the first couple of minutes myself so far. A nice little Beatles/Ireland montage at the start!

[DannyInvincible]

43 minutes - hmmmm. Anything of interest ?

I've watched bits and pieces here and there and it certainly evokes a sense of nostalgia. It features a nice pre-match rendition of 'YNWA' sung by the fans towards the start and also an emotional Jack waving the fans farewell from the pitch (at around 28m30s) as the curtain comes down on his time in charge.

There are interviews with Townsend and McGrath at the end too.

Tommy Gorman also reports from the Dutch camp before the game and makes reference to them feeling lucky to have made it to the play-off due to having lost group games to the Czech Republic and Belarus, or "White Russia" as he also calls them. It's an amusing use of an archaism of which I'd somehow never been aware until now. A bit like Giles frequently referring to the Czech Republic as "Czechoslovakia".

Was Paddy Crerand a regular pundit? I would have been ten-years-old at the time, but I don't recall having seen him much on RTÉ back in the day. Maybe my memory is failing me or I was just focused exclusively on what was going on on the field! Where was Dunphy?

[Stuttgart88]

Crerand was quite regular, yes.

[OwlsFan]

Crerand was quite regular, yes.

Yes and Joe Kinnear as well. Frank Stapleton also. Probably a Wikipedia site someplace which lists all the panelists but the others were mostly before Giles and Dunphy sewed up the job for around 20 years.

[DannyInvincible]

I definitely recall Kinnear very clearly and have vaguer memories of Stapleton.

[osarusan]

Crerand was there for a couple of years I think, 94-96.

Was an utterly miserable pundit, I was really pleased when he stopped appearing.

He went on to work for MUTV, and was, even by club tv standards, incredibly biased.

[DannyInvincible]

He went on to work for MUTV, and was, even by club tv standards, incredibly biased.

His furious refusal to believe reports of Alex Ferguson's then-impending retirement in 2013 is comical:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjyoyp0evyg

30 minutes after the Newstalk interview finished, Manchester United officially confirmed Ferguson's retirement.

[DannyInvincible]

A piece on George Hamilton by Marie Crowe for tomorrow's match programme: http://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/george-hamilton-the-voice-of-a-nation


...

A Queens University graduate, opportunity first knocked for Hamilton at the BBC where he started out in rugby and learned his trade. His first visit to the then Lansdowne Road was to cover a Five Nations game between Ireland and Scotland in 1974, but fast forward four decades and it’s like his second home.

The Aviva Stadium is actually more than a place of work for Hamilton. He loves coming to the home ground of the Irish football and rugby teams. Getting into his car and driving to the stadium still fills him with excitement and anticipation.

...

[DeLorean]

O'Neill seemed a lot more amicable towards TOD this time I thought. Maybe because Tony was more agreeable than usual and resisted asking him why he didn't start Hoolahan - http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/international-soccer-extras-30003423/10737457/

[DeLorean]

RIP Jimmy Magee - https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017/0920/906121-jimmy-magee-passes-away/

Edit - RTÉ tribute here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijY9Y-SmXAM

[DeLorean]

Tony making another enemy last night, poor fella can't catch a break - https://twitter.com/RTEsoccer/status/966437487571714051

RTÉ didn't seem to grasp the deliberate looseness of Mourinho's exaggerated reply - https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0221/942558-mourinho-not-unhappy-but-annoyed-by-pogba-question/


However despite Pogba’s "good work" Mourinho was clearly irritated when asked whether he had done enough to start in the return leg, wrongly stating that the game is in two months time before walking off.

[OwlsFan]

What do people think of Ronnie Whelan as a co-commentator? His persistent moaning does my head in and I even went over to the BBC for the England game against Panama which was a mistake as they had Danny Murphy who came from the Apres Match version of Barry Davies and "the nasty Johnny foreigner school" and our boys are brill. I then watched the games with the sound off :) I don't mind Beglin, Kerr (a bit nasally), Houghton (because of those goals), Kilbane - well most to be honest so long as it's not Whelan (and now Murphy).

The RTE Panels aren't bad. Nice to see Doyle and Duffer. Brady is probably past his sell by date. Didi Hamann is also interesting.

I had to laugh at Shearer and Pablo Zabaleta (I think) on the BBC Panel bemoaning the diving and feigning injury at the Iran/Portugal game. Who was sitting in between them but the Greg Lousanis of football diving: Didier Drogba. I got so embarrassed for him I had to go over to Coronation Street.

[DeLorean]

Whelan is tough going alright. Funnily enough, when he's being interviewed by George in a more casual sense pre-match he seems full of positivity, a guy really enjoying life, his surroundings and looking forward to the game in question. That all seems to change at kickoff regardless of how watchable the match might be.

Houghton is a bit full on. Every time he criticises a player for not hitting the target or working the keeper I think of Wembley '91. Sorry Ray, but even Stuttgart & New Jersey don't get you off the hook for that one. There was a chance the other day actually which was quite similar to his one-on-one against Egypt, "all he had to do was lift it", says Ray.

I've always liked Beglin. He has a good rapport with Hamilton in particular.

The panel in general have been very good alright I think.

[NeverFeltBetter]

I can't stand Brady or Dunphy anymore, and Moloney's habit of egging them on and not challenging patently ridiculous comments is really tiresome. Aside from the general crankiness and Dunphy's niche as "Say something, proven wrong, say the opposite" I think part of it is this sense of glee on their faces when confronted with some kind of negativity they can harp on about, like last night with the Argentinian manager's lone celebrations: Dunphy had a gigantic ****-eating grin on his face as he commented, that just struck me as so mean-spirited. Sadlier isn't a lot better, but Hamann I like, and Andrews, very articulate and knowledgeable.