Dan Crowley M MK Dons b.1997

[tetsujin1979]

Roy Keane going to the Barnsley v Swindon match today to watch him according to a small piece in the Irish Examiner by John Fallon

edit : Crowley is injured for today. Hope Roy didn't go all the way to Barnsley.
According to various users on Twitter, Keane is at the game

[Charlie Darwin]

Hopefully he'll get a look at Hourihane anyway.

[Closed Account]

Hopefully he'll get a look at Hourihane anyway.Hourihane who Roy would be familiar with, signing him for Sunderland 8 years ago as a 16 year old and also signed for Ipwich.

[Charlie Darwin]

Good point :p

[IsMiseSean]

Anton Rodgers playing for Swindon. Is he still on our side?

[DannyInvincible]

Anton Rodgers playing for Swindon. Is he still on our side?

Still eligible, as far as I know. Even though there was talk of it (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/anton-rodgers-set-to-switch-his-allegiance-from-republic-28661623.html), I don't think he ever switched to IFA nor has he represented anyone else, to best of my knowledge.

[drummerboy]

Heard Crowley could be back for Ireland soon.

[Olé Olé]

Interesting Keane went to a League One game. I hadn't thought someone playing at that level would be considered for a senior call-up (Forde is different).

He could have been looking at any/some/all of Conor Wilkinson, Conor Hourihane, Daniel Crowley and Anton Rodgers. I'd be surprised if Rodgers, Wilkinson or Hourihane were called up (even though he 's signed Hourihane in the past and he has impressed, it's a level below the level he'd need to impress at first). I don't think he'd need to see Crowley play as I'm sure the lad merits an under 21 call-up. Maybe he was going to have a chat with Crowley and took the game in out of courtesy? I hope it's Crowley-related. No offence to the others, but they have a bit left to do before senior consideration.

[Deckydee]

According to various users on Twitter, Keane is at the game

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/roy-keane-to-scout-arsenal-prospect-dan-crowley-for-ireland-353432.html

[Olé Olé]

I actually seen this kid playing Gaelic football over in Birmingham a couple of years ago. He has amazing skill and comes from an very Irish background. I could be wrong but I think he is still U15. I didn't recognise the name earlier in the thread.


Heard Crowley could be back for Ireland soon.


The Irish Times story hasn't much in the line of evidence. Do you, by any chance, have some solid info for us?

I think this would represent a big statement if Crowley were to switch to us.

[Olé Olé]

I'd love to actually ascertain the extent of Crowley's Irish roots. Similar to JG, he was a keen Gaelic footballer. It took long enough to confirm that 3 of Grealish's grandparents had been born in Ireland and had two English-born parents (I think a few rags had his father down as Irish-born).

This article http://www.balls.ie/football/dan-crowleys-youth-gaa-coach-thinks-hell-play-for-ireland/132706 has his old coach stating that "he visits his folks in Waterford regularly." That suggests his grandparents are in Waterford, does it? In which case it's likely his father emigrated and was born in Ireland.

On the other hand, it seems his father was a handy player who came through the ranks at Coventry: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/transfer-news/cov-kid-daniel-crowley-signs-7563919

No word on his mother's side yet, I don't think.

As I said, it'd be a big statement for a third generation lad to switch to us definitively, when he's one of the brightest prospects in England and they are very keen on him.

EDIT:
And here's a tweet from a while ago of him and his baby cousin in Ireland. First cousin would suggest his father is Irish-born but could also be second cousin. There's an aul lad in the background happy out anyway!:
https://twitter.com/danielcrowley24/status/481905353089884161

[TrapAPony]

If Crowley switches to us then Grealish has no excuse

[Olé Olé]

If Crowley switches to us then Grealish has no excuse

Grealish family might not be as keen on the Ireland jersey as the Crowley clan: https://instagram.com/p/YfmpFqxXnF/

[greendeiseboy]

I'd love to actually ascertain the extent of Crowley's Irish roots. Similar to JG, he was a keen Gaelic footballer. It took long enough to confirm that 3 of Grealish's grandparents had been born in Ireland and had two English-born parents (I think a few rags had his father down as Irish-born).

This article http://www.balls.ie/football/dan-crowleys-youth-gaa-coach-thinks-hell-play-for-ireland/132706 has his old coach stating that "he visits his folks in Waterford regularly." That suggests his grandparents are in Waterford, does it? In which case it's likely his father emigrated and was born in Ireland.

On the other hand, it seems his father was a handy player who came through the ranks at Coventry: http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sport/football/transfer-news/cov-kid-daniel-crowley-signs-7563919

No word on his mother's side yet, I don't think.

As I said, it'd be a big statement for a third generation lad to switch to us definitively, when he's one of the brightest prospects in England and they are very keen on him.

EDIT:
And here's a tweet from a while ago of him and his baby cousin in Ireland. First cousin would suggest his father is Irish-born but could also be second cousin. There's an aul lad in the background happy out anyway!:
https://twitter.com/danielcrowley24/status/481905353089884161

Grandparents are from Tramore as far as I know and still live there. His mother's side as far as I recall are from Kerry. I recognise his grandad.

States below father born in Coventry which would probably mean grandparents returned here rather than the dad being born in Ireland.

http://www.scunthorpeunited-mad.co.uk/unknown_team_or_unattached/player/career/dave_crowley_5005240/index.shtml

[DeLorean]

I don't really see how one is relevant to the other. It's a decision of the heart after all, or at least it should be. No set rules.

[Stuttgart88]

...although they are close friends apparently. Might be a factor?

[The Fly]

He who shall not be named just scored against Leicester.

[back of the net]

He who shall not be named just scored against Leicester.

absolute peach of a finish in fairness

http://cdn2.streamable.com/video/webm/fz72.webm

[The Fly]

Indeed.

[Olé Olé]

Grandparents are from Tramore as far as I know and still live there. His mother's side as far as I recall are from Kerry. I recognise his grandad.

States below father born in Coventry which would probably mean grandparents returned here rather than the dad being born in Ireland.

http://www.scunthorpeunited-mad.co.uk/unknown_team_or_unattached/player/career/dave_crowley_5005240/index.shtml

Great stuff, thanks for that.

Never heard anything about his mother. Everything seems to relate to the father and grandparents' Waterford roots. In Kerry we can now claim a connection to both Crowley and Grealish!

EDIT: That goal above is not going to do us any favours over the next month. Gorgeous finish. Note it was England cap Jamie Vardy that lost his marker on that one.

[SkStu]

JG has been outrageously good in the first half. Almost everything has gone through him.

[TrapAPony]

I don't really see how one is relevant to the other. It's a decision of the heart after all, or at least it should be. No set rules.

Both Midlands lads, both mates, both highly rated, both have strong Irish backgrounds. I just think if Crowley declares it would make it easier for Grealish to say yes to us

[DeLorean]

The situations are similar for sure, just don't think one should have any bearing on the other. Who knows though.

[Deckydee]

https://twitter.com/danielcrowley24/status/533345610746040320

[Irish_Praha]

https://twitter.com/danielcrowley24/status/533345610746040320

Can someone please translate?
He wants to play for England or Ireland or is undecided?

[SkStu]

That Twitter exchange is from November 2014. What's the point here?

[Crosby87]

Didn't sabbath sing a song about this guy?

[back of the net]

http://www.balls.ie/football/martin-oneill-has-given-an-update-on-irelands-hopes-of-securing-dan-crowley/309252

[drummerboy]

I seen this kid about 4 years ago at an GAA Feile in Birmingham. He was playing for the local club and has remained friendly with some of the Kids from a Dublin club. From what they tell me it does seem likely he will switch back to Ireland.

[paul_oshea]

Didn't sabbath sing a song about this guy?

No they sang about his Dad, Mr Crowley.

[Park_Lane]

That was an Ozzy solo record if I remember correctly...

[Charlie Darwin]

If Paul says it was a Sabbath song then it was a Sabbath song. He was there in person.

[tetsujin1979]

If Paul says it was a Sabbath song then it was a Sabbath song. He was there in person.
Also, wrote the lyrics, composed the music, and performed the track.
In fact, who are Sabbath?

[Charlie Darwin]

Also, wrote the lyrics, composed the music, and performed the track.
In fact, who are Sabbath?
I have no idea, but I have a sneaking feeling they're a penalty waiting to happen.

[paul_oshea]

That was an Ozzy solo record if I remember correctly...

It was indeedy, i had a CD with his best of along with I just want you and Perry Mason. I wasn't inventive enough with my joke.

Many argue he did his finest work when solo.

[nigel-harps1954]

Many argue he did his finest work when solo.

Nonsense.

I'll just leave it at that.

[zero]

http://www.thefa.com/news/england/development/2015/sep/england-u19s-squad-announced-for-european-championship-first-round-qualifiers-300915

crowley in the england u19 squad.

[paul_oshea]

"He's still ours to lose"

[OwlsFan]

JonJoe Kenny from Everton probably wouldn't have too far back to find Irish roots I bet.

[tetsujin1979]

moving thread to the world football forum, if he decides to declare for Ireland, it'll be moved back to the Ireland forum

[SkStu]

moving thread to the world football forum, if he decides to declare for Ireland, it'll be moved back to the Ireland forum

Why? I also think it's ridiculous that the grealish thread was moved. It's all relevant to irish football. It's overbearing and pointless moderation if you ask me. The conversation in both threads has never been objectionable so there is no reason why these threads couldn't or shouldn't be moved back. It's this sort of "nanny state" approach (not blaming you Tets, it's been like this for a while) that has killed this messageboard.

[paul_oshea]

And Ybig is too annoying.

Splinter group, The Real Foot.ie

[tetsujin1979]

Crowley's an English player, who is Irish qualified, and has given no indication that he will change his international allegiance, beyond some support of the Irish team on social media - and nothing in the last year. Why would he be discussed in the Ireland forum?

I'm pretty sure I said the Grealish thread would be moved if he changed allegiances about a year ago. FWIW, nobody complained when I moved it until now

For consistency I should probably move the Donnelly thread as well

[SkStu]

Or none of them. Speculation about promising potential future caps is part and parcel of being a fan of the irish team and has been for me since I was a teen. Just because we get rebuffed every now and again doesn't make it any less relevant to irish football and the ups and downs of following irish footballing fortunes. It's so unnecessary.

[paul_oshea]

Rambo ray and the Gustapo.

[tetsujin1979]

There's a thread for potentially eligible players: http://foot.ie/threads/119079-Potentially-eligible-players-thread

[SkStu]

Yeah, I know that. There also used to be two threads for discussing specific players who are eligible. I don't know why they've been moved. Sure they might have a flurry of posts for a few weeks but they would have disappeared off the first page pretty soon after that. I just don't know what the benefit of moving these threads is. This was never done before, ever. You also deemed it worthy to close the Grealish thread for months for some reason. The Noble et al thread was never closed until further developments...it is so arbitrary and weird. The main troll is long gone that might have warranted this type of action but not even he is relevant anymore.

Shall we go through every thread in the ireland forum and make sure that they are all moved over here where the player has not declared yet or has since declared elsewhere? Joe Mason, Donnelly you mentioned but there's loads more. Do we need a formal declaration? I'm sorry, I'm just not sure what parameters you use to decide what stays and what goes. Should we have moved Clark out and then back in again? Is it just player threads or should we be on the look out for other non player specific transgressions?

[IsMiseSean]

Pat Bamford, Shane O'Neill, Barry MaGuire, Zak Gilsenan, Conor Doyle can all be moved too, if that's the way things are going to be done....

[DeLorean]

I agree with SkStu completely. I'd say most people don't even think of coming to World Football to check new posts, etc. I rarely do anyway. Despite recent events, Grealish is still a former Irish international player so he belongs in the Irish section for that reason alone... and it's the obvious place to discuss the others too (although fair point about the eligibility thread).

[Olé Olé]

Have to say that I concur. Also, Crowley is a former underage player for us who remains eligible to play for us and has been subject to comments in the press from the Ireland manager, Martin O'Neill. I think it's fitting that such matters be highlighted and discussed in the Ireland forum given that they are on the agenda of O'Neill.

The same principle doesn't really apply for Grealish as he is now ineligible and off O'Neill's radar given that he is in the process of using up his switch. But I can understand how others would see it suitable for him to remain in the Ireland forum.