Clare League 2011/12

[AWOL]

AWOL your talking rubbish.. It was a cup match nothing to do with your league.. It's an fai issue to sort out.. If your so worried about your own committee why don't you join it and improve it..
they wouldn't let an outsider in there, are you joking me! But you are missing my point, if discipline was dealt with consistently from the start of the season it may well have prevented the said incident. We seem to have lost the element of decency and pride. I am sure the FAI will have some pertinent questions to ask when they look into the disciplinary history of this season, so far. Why dont you have a look yourself second and see what you think!

[Second]

No thanks AWOL im just happy watching matches these days wether it be in clare or limerick.. But then again I'm not the one criticizing committees ... As far as i know this same player is currently suspended from playing clare competitions.. As he was sent off earlier this year.. But hopefully fai will throw the book at him

[AWOL]

No thanks AWOL im just happy watching matches these days wether it be in clare or limerick.. But then again I'm not the one criticizing committees ... As far as i know this same player is currently suspended from playing clare competitions.. As he was sent off earlier this year.. But hopefully fai will throw the book at him On a personal level, and in my personal opinion, and I am a great believer in Second chances for young lads, but, I would hope that someone capable of doing that to another human being would never again be allowed to kick a ball in competition under the Clare or any other league. That particular referee will report accordingly though so I think enough said.

[bigguy]

Munster Jnr
Bridge Utd 3 b/cratloe 1

[Planners]

No thanks AWOL im just happy watching matches these days wether it be in clare or limerick.. But then again I'm not the one criticizing committees ... As far as i know this same player is currently suspended from playing clare competitions.. As he was sent off earlier this year.. But hopefully fai will throw the book at him why what happened at inch if your not going to the inch games anymore.....

[Second]

Sorry planners you have me mixed up with someone else I think..are inch worth watching ???

[Draper]

On a personal level, and in my personal opinion, and I am a great believer in Second chances for young lads, but, I would hope that someone capable of doing that to another human being would never again be allowed to kick a ball in competition under the Clare or any other league. That particular referee will report accordingly though so I think enough said.Second chances are all very noble but if you saw this lunatiic do what he did to your team mate, buddy or brother you'd give him no second chance. Especialy in the sickening aftermath when he showed no remorse (still hasnt) and simply told the referee to f*** off. Life ban FAI.

[Stanley]

Second chances are all very noble but if you saw this lunatiic do what he did to your team mate, buddy or brother you'd give him no second chance. Especialy in the sickening aftermath when he showed no remorse (still hasnt) and simply told the referee to f*** off. Life ban FAI.

I dunno if it would be a second chance anyway, apparently the same fella was serving a suspension from Clare games at the time of the FAI game in question. It might be just luck that he hasn't injured a player as badly before (and for all we know he might actually have done it before?!)

[AWOL]

Second chances are all very noble but if you saw this lunatiic do what he did to your team mate, buddy or brother you'd give him no second chance. Especialy in the sickening aftermath when he showed no remorse (still hasnt) and simply told the referee to f*** off. Life ban FAI. We all have freedom to control what comes out of our mouth and how we use our bodies, it is the one thing that no one can take away from us, so there is no excuse, Draper you are spot on.

[Ice-man]

Second chances are all very noble but if you saw this lunatiic do what he did to your team mate, buddy or brother you'd give him no second chance. Especialy in the sickening aftermath when he showed no remorse (still hasnt) and simply told the referee to f*** off. Life ban FAI.

He still hasnt apologised is this fella human at all

[mouldedstuds]

said individual wouldnt be the brightest spark in the world, so in his mind, if he did nothing wrong then he woudnt generate the brain power to muster an apology.

incident sounds terrible,, any news on outcome?

[Bayern Munchies]

How anybody could do something like that and not apolgise is sick....A life time ban is too good for him. If he did something similar on the street he would be facing jail time.

Anyway back to the football what did people make of the league cup final last weekend and any predictions for this weekends set of matches?

[Wolverine]

Good game today between us and Newmarket.first half wasn't good from our point of view but the rest of the game was good. The league is going to be tight between 4 teams I think.we are all very strong. It will be the tightest yet.

[0030]

Which 4 teams Wolverine? Watched the game yesterday and I thought it was very enjoyable from a neutrals point of view. Newmarket were very dangerous from set pieces with the kelly's causing all sorts of problems. However, I thought Avenue were the better team in open play. Saying that I thought Newmarket were robbed for a penalty in the first half and I cant understand how Martin didnt give it

[mastermind1]

If I was to hazard a guess I would imagine the 4 teams wolverine are on about are Avenue, Lifford, Ennis town rock and newmarket.

I might be a bit biased here but I thought we fully deserved the win yesterday. In fairness it was a great game to watch(painful for me). The 2 kellys definitely are a big threat in the air and newmarket have some very fast players up top. Dylan Casey at left back for us was outstanding, its no wonder leicester city are very keen on him, I actually wouldnt be surprised if the lad makes it across in england, his energy levels are very good and his attitude to learn is great.

Goalscorers were Mikey mahoney and David Russell for Avenue, Daithi o connell and stephen kelly for newmarket

[0030]

I'd agree with you about Dylan. I thought he was excellent and caused serious trouble. Put some great balls into the box too. Is there a good chance of him going to Leicester?

[mastermind1]

I could be wery wrong here but I think he will be signing for them in the summer when he turns 16. He has been going over there for the past few years and has also been capped for Ireland and captained them also, unbelievable talent

[0030]

He's a great prospect and its hard to believe that he is still only 15. Best of luck to the lad and hopefully he can make it with Leicester.
Avenue and Newmarket look like genuine title contenders but Im not sure about Lifford or Ennis Town Rock. I think these teams may all take points off each other and therefore the league could be a very closely run race this year

[Bayern Munchies]

Not sure about Lifford myself but you have to consider them especially seeing as they've beaten your two favourites already this season in the league cup. Would be great for the club itself to win it on it's anniversary and I'm sure Big Dad will be doing his best to work his magic and get the best out of his squad. With it been such a tight league this year in terms of games I think it will be the side with the best record against the big teams who will go on to win the league.

[mouldedstuds]

great game of soccer sunday, between the 2 best teams in clare,, some great soccer played and no dirt or messing,, well reffed by mr o brien too, i agree newmkt possiblr could have had a penalty, but not given and i thought avenue deserved the win , as they finished the game a lot stronger after a bright 1st half from nwmkt,,
the league will be very close this yr , i think between the 2 teams mentioned, lifford will be a threat , but their downfall will be drawing games agiantst the so called weaker teams , because they dont get up for them like they do against avenue or nwmkt,
wel done to connolly beating a prem team as well.. tough one next though!
an good luck to avenue vs newcastle next weekend

[buddygeary23]

Anyone got any info on avenue and what they are like this year.. We played them in fai 2 years ago in ennis and beat them
1-0...good them two years ago and sound bunch of lads..thanks

[Second]

Avenue are a good team.. Having a mixed last couple of weeks but a very strong outfit ... Have a good defense with experience and youth ( left full going to Leicester ) . Rest of defense would be the back bone of clare Oscar traynor teams over last couple of years.. Midfield very strong with some good ball players and some strong physical players too.. Up front have plenty of goals so far this year.. Having home advantage will be a plus but ye will have to work very hard to get anything out of the game...

[rubadubdub]

Does anyone know why the following matches are posponed?;

Cassidy Pk: Lifford A P-P Ennis Town Rock
Lees Road: Rhine Rovers P-P Bridge Celtic
Fairgreen: Manus Celtic B P-P Coole F.C
Lees Road: Inch Crusaders P-P Hermitage B
Fairgreen: Hermitage C P-P Tulla United B
Kilmhill: St.Pats P-P Lifford B

It can't be for unplayable pitches because there's another game down in the 3rd div for cassidy park

[Greaves]

All Liffords' games are off due to the death of John O'Neill's father, James. R.I.P.

[Second]

R.I.P. Mr o Neill ... Both fairgreen and lees road owned by council so no doubt they pulled all matches there..

[buddygeary23]

Great game in Newcastle west today...Newcastle West Afc 3-3 Avenue United,NCW winning 4-2 on penalties..ncw went up 1-0 with one of the best goals
I have ever seen..long clearance to striker,chested it Down and first time volley over the keeper and into the top corner..avenue equalised but soon after ncw went back in front through a own goal..avenue levelled with a back post header and went 3-2 up with another back post header which was about 3 or 4 yards off side but (cest la vie).ncw levelled and scored their 4 penalties while avenue missed their 3rd and 4th..great game and well worth the watch...best of luck to avenue for the rest of the season

[the lobster]

just reading on the forum the clare league have on their site about newmarket having more games played than other teams, ie. avenue, tulla or lifford...for 1, every team has to play each other twice, so it doesn't really matter. 2, they don't make the fixture but only play them. 3, avenue
are now out of the fai and behind in games already, yet they have no fixture for the coming weekend while newmarket do have one. i don't see why people think newmarket should have to go without fixtures so that other teams can play catch up, again, they only play the fixture they are givin.

if newmarket were losing these games would there be a debate at all??????

[Second]

I agree lobster also if teams think playing league games early is a big advantage then why bother enter fai or munster cups..

[Bayern Munchies]

Maybe people are complaining because Newmarket could be losing a few of there squad to the GAA shortly and teams who will be suffering the same sort of thing as that don't have the games played that Newmarket do? That's all I can think of anyway.

At the end of the day as you said each team is going to face each other at least twice and it's going to be 11 vs 11 it doesn't matter which side has who playing or who's missing you've still got to do the business. I have no problem with Newmarket having played so many games already.

Huge game this weekend for them and for Lifford when they meet. Should be a very good game to watch.

[the lobster]

[QUOTE=Bayern Munchies;1556518]Maybe people are complaining because Newmarket could be losing a few of there squad to the GAA shortly and teams who will be suffering the same sort of thing as that don't have the games played that Newmarket do? That's all I can think of anyway.

from what ive seen so far this season, only a couple of the hurley heads have been playing for newmarket so far so that put the above to bed. they have a big squad and that shows that any player they have is capable of doing a job whether they puck a shliter or not.

[Second]

I've seen newmarket twice This season and in 1 of those games they had Enda Kelly Stephen Kelly eoin o brien Darren cullinan Daithi o connell and kieran devil had Colin Ryan Neil Ryan and eoin Hayes on bench that's 6 starters and 3 subs that play hurling.. Regardless of that every club has Gaa lads and Newmarket are top of the table cause they deserve to be..

[Bayern Munchies]

I haven't seen any of Newmarket in the league so far so i can't really comment I was just saying that could be a potability as to why clubs are complaining about them getting so many games early before the hurling season get's properly underway. But yeah even at this stage the league table doesn't lie and if you're on top you're obviously doing something right so fair play to Newmarket.

[mastermind1]

[QUOTE=Bayern Munchies;1556692]I haven't seen any of Newmarket in the league so far so i can't really comment I was just saying that could be a potability as to why clubs are complaining about them getting so many games early before the hurling season get's properly underway. But yeah even at this stage the league table doesn't lie and if you're on top you're obviously doing something right so fair play to Newmarket.[/
QUOTE]

I dont think clubs are giving out about newmarket only, i think its just in the interest of fair play that no team should get more than 3 games ahead. For instance tulla have 6 played to rock rovers 1 game. It just seems that the teams that are trying their hardest to advance in national competitions get left behind. Its not any clubs fault, its just something that should be looked at so it won't happen every year. Otherwise club are just going to get knocked out of national competitions early and this will leave Clare soccer even further behind than other counties.

[Bayern Munchies]

Like I said i wasn't saying that was the reason why clubs were giving out, but it could be a possabilty. I don't get why it's such a big deal though because at the end of the day all clubs have to play the same amount of games? Unless the clubs are complaining because for them it's very stop start and hard to get going compared to the clubs who are playing week in week out I take it?

[the lobster]

i only commenting on what i read and again it is simple, newmarket can only play the games they are fixed, but baffles me how they at the moment have more games played the the avenue yet newmarket have a fixture this week and avenue don't

[First]

Alot of interest in Newmarket on here and the Clare forum, I would love to have as much insight into what is going on.
Anyway next year ye won't have to worry about the fixtures Newmarket are playing.

[the lobster]

i heard a little rumour alright.

[0030]

Inform us of this little rumour lads!!!

I dont think the issue is with Newmarket but rather with the Clare League fixtures. Newmarket are just being highlighted as an example of a club who have played several more matches than others and moreover are being highlighted because they are sitting on top of the league. I know thats due in part to their fantastic facilities but the fixtures should be transparent and fair and when some clubs have played considerably more games than others it turns the league table and the momentum of the league into a farce. Looking at the table, Tulla and Mountshannon have 6 played and Ennis Town only 1. The national competitions are an inevitable distraction but the league cup really threw the league out of kilter.

This isnt a personal crusade on behalf of any club or a personal criticism of anyone but Im sure we would all love a well organised league.

[The circuspony]

Well said 0030.....all we ask for is those in charge to do their best to keep the games each team has played on par! Nothing to do with any club in particular. We all know each team plays the same amount of games. Thats rather obvious!!!

A small bit of cop on with the fixtures and they would send the teams with least amount of games played to venues or fields that dont cut up easily and are usually playable. Then maybe send the teams with the most amount of games played to fields that are often deemed unplayable. As soon as the disparity in games played has been reduced to a reasonable level, they can set the fixtures as they please.

We're a'' involved with a club 3 times a week for ten months of the year. Ironically enough the league starts when the evenings are dark, cold, wet and windy. Games are also on of a Sunday morning which means anyone who takes it seriously doesnt socialise at the weekend. Not to mention the lack of commitment from most young fellas for the entire season. They all have balls and its tough to deny them a night out on the town, a taco chip & cheese and any bit of bootie they might stumble upon.
We've all singed up for this and we can deal with it. But when someone asks how my wonderful league is going, i'd much rather give them a straight forward response as to who's on top and who is fighting for relegation, rather than explaining the fact that no one knows because one team had 13 games played and another has 5 (last year) or 1 team has a single game played and another team has seven under their belt (this will be the case next monday).

Summer soccer of a saturday morning please??? If not, at least let there be no more than 2 games played between each team. As 0030 said 'Im sure we would all love a well organised league.'

P.S. I know yer doing yer best with the fixtures.......Just do better.........please

[First]

Well said 0030.....all we ask for is those in charge to do their best to keep the games each team has played on par! Nothing to do with any club in particular. We all know each team plays the same amount of games. Thats rather obvious!!!

A small bit of cop on with the fixtures and they would send the teams with least amount of games played to venues or fields that dont cut up easily and are usually playable. Then maybe send the teams with the most amount of games played to fields that are often deemed unplayable. As soon as the disparity in games played has been reduced to a reasonable level, they can set the fixtures as they please.

We're a'' involved with a club 3 times a week for ten months of the year. Ironically enough the league starts when the evenings are dark, cold, wet and windy. Games are also on of a Sunday morning which means anyone who takes it seriously doesnt socialise at the weekend. Not to mention the lack of commitment from most young fellas for the entire season. They all have balls and its tough to deny them a night out on the town, a taco chip & cheese and any bit of bootie they might stumble upon.
We've all singed up for this and we can deal with it. But when someone asks how my wonderful league is going, i'd much rather give them a straight forward response as to who's on top and who is fighting for relegation, rather than explaining the fact that no one knows because one team had 13 games played and another has 5 (last year) or 1 team has a single game played and another team has seven under their belt (this will be the case next monday).

Summer soccer of a saturday morning please??? If not, at least let there be no more than 2 games played between each team. As 0030 said 'Im sure we would all love a well organised league.'

P.S. I know yer doing yer best with the fixtures.......Just do better.........please

I don't understand your reasoning here, isn't this what is happening, Tulla have 4 games played at home, Newmarket 3 so if you are going to send teams to play on the best pitches who are they going to play?

[Second]

Circuspony what a ridicoulous statement. If the best pitches are being used all the time then the home teams will all have more games played than everyone else ... O wait that's what has happened ... Cut the league to 8 teams .. Everyone play eachother 3 times .. Once under the new lights that will be in doora next year.. Scrap the league cup until dec/jan / Feb also play this under lights like tuohy cup in limerick.. Make it knockout..Then teams should be on a par with eachother Up to Christmas ..

[The circuspony]

The Burren, Lifford, Newmarket and Tulla all have fantstic pitches. Ennis Town Rocks only league game of the season so far has been at home. Why not pencil them in to play one of these teams this week. Lifford maybe, or the Burren - both with 3 played.
This weekend Lifford are at home to Newmarket. Shannon Olympic at home to Ennis town Rock. Surely its obvious that the Lifford game will more than likely be played and there is a good chance of Olympics pitch will be out of action. Would it not have made sense to put Lifford against Ennis town Rock? A small bit more care is all one asks for.

Lights in the county grounds would be a fantastic solution to several problems. Is this going to happen?

[Ice-man]

It has nothing to do with FAI Munster games look at the Lim league for example with 11/13 games played and there is no team with more then 2 games played on anyone else

Rock with 1 game played to Tullas 6 - the clare league is a shambles or someone needs help with the fixtures!!

Limerick League Table

Janesboro 13 12 1 0 57 15 37
Pike Rovers 11 10 0 1 49 10 30
Carew Park 13 9 1 3 28 19 28
Fairview Rgs 12 7 1 4 42 20 22
Regional Utd 13 7 1 5 23 24 22
Kilmallock 13 6 0 7 25 26 18
Ballynanty Rs 12 5 2 5 32 22 17
Wembley Rvs 11 3 3 5 18 24 12
Star Rvs 12 3 1 8 14 42 10
Aisling Ann 12 3 1 8 17 43 10
Corbally Utd 12 2 1 9 23 40 7
Summerville 12 0 0 12 8 51 0

[Second]

In all fairness ennis town rock have played 3 munster junior games and had 1 called off ..also had a walkover in fai and And played 1 game in fai.. Also had a premier game called off due to funeral.. So that accounts for alot of the weekends that ennis town rock haven't been playing in league..

[MikeBassett]

The Burren, Lifford, Newmarket and Tulla all have fantstic pitches. Ennis Town Rocks only league game of the season so far has been at home. Why not pencil them in to play one of these teams this week. Lifford maybe, or the Burren - both with 3 played.
This weekend Lifford are at home to Newmarket. Shannon Olympic at home to Ennis town Rock. Surely its obvious that the Lifford game will more than likely be played and there is a good chance of Olympics pitch will be out of action. Would it not have made sense to put Lifford against Ennis town Rock? A small bit more care is all one asks for.

Lights in the county grounds would be a fantastic solution to several problems. Is this going to happen?

So you're saying that Newmarket, Lifford, Tulla and Burren should have to play the majority of their home league matches in the early part of the season just because they have the best playing facilities and other teams pitches might be ''out of action''?

[First]

So you're saying that Newmarket, Lifford, Tulla and Burren should have to play the majority of their home league matches in the early part of the season just because they have the best playing facilities and other teams pitches might be ''out of action''?

It sure sounds like it. Also regarding Doora, how many games do people think the pitch can hold there, is it made out of "magic turf"?
I notice most of the moaning about fixtures is coming from clubs that haven't their own pitches. Ask any of the clubs that do own their pitches about the costs associated with keeping these pitches in good nick, it surprised/shocked me when I saw the annual bill. Large amounts of money are spent keeping pitches in a playable state during the year and moreso in the winter. Expecting clubs who have invested to sit around waiting on fixtures because clubs, who are tenants of facilities, can't get fixtures played is in my opinion going backwards.

Tulla have one of the best Junior set-ups in the country yet people are moaning that they are able to play games.
Newmarket have the best playing surface in the county yet people moan that they have 4 games played by December in the league.
Lifford, another lovely pitch, and the Burren (though I haven't seen this facility) will most likely be playable.

Second in his post has outlined the reasons for Ennis Rocks lack of league games. Avenue, all credit to them, went on a good run in the FAI and MJ last year, they are out of the FAI earlier this season so this should allow more league games to be played.

Moaning about the clubs who have invested money in their grounds seems ridiculous to me. Suggesting they play their home games at the beginning of the season is laughable, but even more laughable is asking them to go weeks without a game because the county council have closed other pitches.

Again some are judging the performance of the league by the lowest rung of the ladder. ML has a tough job, give him some credit.

[1904 Shelbourne]

[QUOTE=Ice-man;1556842]It has nothing to do with FAI Munster game look at the Lim league for example with 11/13 games played and there is no team with more then 2 games played on anyone else

Rock with 1 game played to Tullas 6 - the clare league is a shamples or someone needs help with the fixtures!!

Have a look at 1A.Hibs have not played a game for 3 weeks now because they were so far ahead

Div 1A P W D L F A Pts
Geraldines 12 8 3 1 33 12 27
Shannon Hibs 13 8 2 3 35 13 26
Pike Rvs B 13 7 3 3 36 21 24
Ballynanty Rs 12 6 2 4 24 25 20
Caherconlish 12 5 2 5 19 23 17
Caherdavin Cl 11 5 2 4 25 26 17
Shannon Tn 12 4 4 4 20 14 16
Mungret Reg 12 4 4 4 23 18 16
Charleville 12 4 2 6 21 31 14
Granville Rgs 11 3 2 6 17 24 11
Fairview B 13 3 2 8 21 38 11
Croom Utd 13 1 2 10 18 47 5

The reason the league is so advanced is that there is no league cup to suit the GAA areas getting their players back!!

[0030]

While I agree with some of ye that it is unfair to ask clubs to play all their home games now especially considering that they went to huge expense in developing their facilities, I believe it is even more unfair to leave some teams languishing well behind in terms of fixtures. Every team makes a big commitment as Circuspony states and therefore some fairness in the organisation of the league has to be applied. You cannot run a league whereby some teams have 5/6 games played and some teams only 1/2 games. Over the winter I would imagine this imbalance will get worse!!

The League Cup had its first run out this year but it has to be scrapped or moved to the end of the season. Its distorted the league and the inevitable lack of fixtures over the winter will result in fixture pile ups come the late spring and early summer. We havent even considered that the Clare Cup has to be played too.

[mouldedstuds]

whats rumour bout newmarket? they hardly going into limerick? not good enough first of all an why would they.. gettting knocked out of fai n munster in the 2nd n 3rd round every yr just to concentrate on the league is hardly a basis for going to a stronger league where they would finish up 5th or 6th!

[francescoli]

Newmarket are moving to the scottish premier league,they applied to play in the championship in england but were turned down apparently!