Dublin Super Cup

[bullit]

I nearly got sick halfway through that article.

There was a thread on that article on the board last year,cant find it myself but it is hidden away sonewhere ??

[nigel-harps1954]

Ah but there was a long time I only half paid attention to what was going on around here.

[Charlie Darwin]

It's good to see they'll have a week together this time. It at least means they'll be able to put some basic systems together and avoid the shapelessness that Man Utd exploited so easily.

Assuming Sligo and Shamrock Rovers won't be involved, and perhaps not Bohemians either, it'll be mainly a mix of Dundalk, Derry, Bray and Pats (I'd expect them to be out of Europe by then) players, with one or two UCD players perhaps. This might actually be better than last year's team, which was largely made up on experienced campaigners who were overrun by their younger, fitter opponents. There are some cracking young players in all of those teams, many of whom will probably end up across the water in the next couple of years.

A young side with the McEleneys, McMillans, Kearns, Hector, Murphy, etc. plus a few more experienced heads in Mulcahy, Zayed, Dempsey and Quigley could be quite competitive.

[Red Army]

How much are tickets?

[placid casual]

I wouldnt be that confident that any LOI sides would still be in Europe then,unless Rovers & Sligos 1st gameson at the same time.
The sooner league fans realise they are following a niche sport,like hockey or basketball the better. All this converting the uninitatiated malarky is time lost enjoying your own teams existence.
Celtic me hole.

[legendz]

If the managers and players of Shamrock Rovers, Sligo Rovers, Pat's and Boh's have full confidence in themselves, they won't be expecting to have any part to play in the Dublin Super Cup. I'd see it as a psychological own goal if any of the players were to take part in a training camp while they are still involved in Europe. If Richardson thinks the same, he should not be calling up any of them out of respect while their respective clubs are involved in Europe.

Richardson for now has Derry City, Bray Wanderers, Dundalk, UCD, Drogheda, Galway United and the First Division to pick from. Despite clubs being involved in Europe at that time, I support having an Airtricity XI. The players involved in European competition will gain good experience there. The best players of the clubs not involved in Europe will gain a good experience from the Dublin Super Cup.

Of the 6 Premier clubs Richardson has to choose from, for now, I'd imagine the players of Derry, Bray and Dundalk will be to the fore. As it stands, what is the best XI/squad of players from the clubs not involved in Europe?

[redobit]

Am I imaging it but did Dundalk ask for their players to be exempt from the game against Man. Utd? If teams with small squads, which is everyone really, starts doing this and combined with teams in Europe, then the pool of players to pick could be extremly small.

[Ezeikial]

Richardson for now has Derry City, Bray Wanderers, Dundalk, UCD, Drogheda, Galway United and the First Division to pick from.

Don't forget the A Championship!

[legendz]

Don't forget the A Championship!

lol :D Of course, how could I forget the A Championship?! ;)

[Red Army]

Clubs will roll over if asked to release players.

[sligoman]

If the managers and players of Shamrock Rovers, Sligo Rovers, Pat's and Boh's have full confidence in themselves, they won't be expecting to have any part to play in the Dublin Super CupThis tournament is on in between the 1st and 2nd legs of our 1st European game so regardless of having confidence whether we'll progress, we're not gonna have players available for the tournament.

[Duffman]

Am I imaging it but did Dundalk ask for their players to be exempt from the game against Man. Utd? If teams with small squads, which is everyone really, starts doing this and combined with teams in Europe, then the pool of players to pick could be extremly small.

I don't think so, it think it was that they just weren't picked. I have a vague memory of Faz being on standby if someone was to drop out though.

[sullanefc]

If a player gets called up, does he get paid? What's in it for the player?

Also, if a player gets injured does his team get compensated?

[Charlie Darwin]

From what I remember the players weren't insured for the Manchester United game last year. Might be different this time round. I assume the PFAI will have negotiated an appearance fee for the players but I think most will just be eager to face world class opposition.

[noddy102]

From what I remember the players weren't insured for the Manchester United game last year. Might be different this time round. I assume the PFAI will have negotiated an appearance fee for the players but I think most will just be eager to face world class opposition.

Ill go back to what i said before, players will have booked there weeks holiday for the mid-week break long ago, be interesting to see if there are many pull-outs due to "injuries" when Rico picks his squad for this one!

[Dodge]

There were no pull outs last year, and fron what I hear moat players would be delighted to be involved, as they were last year

Clubs, managers and fans a little less enthusiastic

[bullit]

Regardless of what level of football you played at the next level is always attrative enough for you so i cant see any player that is invited refusing to play in this game.And i will add paid or not paid.

[legendz]

Regardless of what level of football you played at the next level is always attrative enough for you so i cant see any player that is invited refusing to play in this game.And i will add paid or not paid.

True. It is a good chance for all the players involved to raise their profile and make a name for themselves if they've full confidence in their own abilities.

[noddy102]

"Of the 6 Premier clubs Richardson has to choose from, for now, I'd imagine the players of Derry, Bray and Dundalk will be to the fore. As it stands, what is the best XI/squad of players from the clubs not involved in Europe?"

right ill be first to go for it.. ill include pats players presuming they wont get through two rounds of europa league.

Rogers
Madden Hawkins McMillan Bermingham

Kearns Dempsey Bradley McGlynn

Quigley

Cummins

Others:
Doherty (GK)
Pender
Shorthall
Corry
Higgins
Zayed
North
Murphy
J Kelly

[PartySaint]

No Daryl Kavanagh? I hope Rico thinks the same way

[El-Pietro]

Cummins? As in our Cummins? I hope hes not involved!

[ped_ped]

Murphy'd be picked ahead of Cummins every time, if only for the fact he's in the Prem.

[Dodge]

Cummins wouldn't start for any of the top 5 sides in the Premier Division

[legendz]

right ill be first to go for it.. ill include pats players presuming they wont get through two rounds of europa league.

I wouldn't be writing on Pat's. Second in the LoI Premier and from what I can see guaranteed being seeded for rounds 1 & 2, they should be confident of making the 3rd round.

[Dodge]

I'll repeat though, LOI sides have only ever won through 2 rounds in Europe 6 times (Pats doing it twice)

it is a tough, tough ask. It'll be 4 Thursdays in a row, with league games inbetween, and we're strictly part timers.

I'm obviously hoping it happens, I'm just pointing out it's a huge task

[TheBoss]

Squad to be announced tonight on MNS.

[Dodge]

It's been released to journalists

[Charlie Darwin]

Has anyone noticed that Sky's TV ad for the Cup only mentions 3 teams? Love Irish people.

[Dunny]

6 Dundalk players selected in the provisional squad:

Simon Madden, Colin Hawkins, Dean Bennett, Daniel Kearns, Ross Gaynor and Jason Byrne

[cornflakes]

Goalkeepers: Ger Doherty (Derry City), Gary Rogers (St Patrick’s Athletic), Alan Mannus (Shamrock Rovers)

Defenders: Pat Sullivan (Shamrock Rovers), Owen Heary (Bohemians), Simon Madden (Dundalk), Stewart Greacen, Shane McEleney (Derry City), Colin Hawkins (Dundalk), Dan Murray, Craig Sives, Ken Oman (Shamrock Rovers), Danny Murphy (Cork City), Daniel Lafferty (Derry City)

Midfielders: Daniel Kearns (Dundalk), Gareth McGlynn (Derry City), Daryl Kavanagh (St Patrick’s Athletic), Gary McCabe (Shamrock Rovers), Barry Molloy, Ruaidhri Higgins (Derry City), Joe Gamble (Limerick), Gary Dempsey (Bray Wanderers), Dave Mulcahy (St Patrick’s Athletic), Dean Bennett (Dundalk), Ronan Finn, Conor McCormack, Stephen Rice (Shamrock Rovers), Killian Brennan (Bohemians), Ross Gaynor (Dundalk), James McClean (Derry City)

Forwards: Gary Twigg, Karl Sheppard (Shamrock Rovers), Eamon Zayed (Derry City), Jason Byrne (Dundalk), Danny North (St Patrick’s Athletic)

[The Fox]

Squad looks very top heavy with Dundalk and Derry City Players.
For example I would have thought Evan McMillan is more on form than Colin Hawkins who has looked off the pace in matches that I have seen.
Also our own Prendergast and Mitchell combination has been excellent. I guess that Conor Murphy and possibly several others have not been considered because of the european finals.
I assume that Sligo have a game in europe at that stage.
Also surprised to see first division players involved - esp Joe Gamble - is he even match fit?

[noddy102]

my god that squad is a disgrace:

joe gamble - doesnt even play in the f***** league
danny murphy - ian bermingham/enda stevens no!!? danny told to leave by MON because enda a better player!
(talk about his cork favourites)
craig sives - hasnt played half the season and isnt first choice. when he is its because the other lad picked, dan murray, has been so **** ha
barry molloy - really? Stephen Bradley no
Stephen Rice - really?
dave mulcahy/dean bennet - both missed a lot of games this year

can i add again... joe gamble, my god damien

[Dodge]

Wonder when the last time Rico seen Joe Gamble play. Or Danny Murphy for that matter.

Pats league leaders have 4 (one of whomever has played about 6 times in midfield), while Dundalk in 7th have 6. He called up 35 but if Pats and Rovers are still in Europe he'll still have to call up a keeper

[noddy102]

Suprised Denis Behan and Glen Crowe arent in the squad!

[Quayman]

Lads just a general query, are there any student tickets left for the weekend package, mate of mine said he got a weekend one for 25 quid but cheapest I can see on ticketmaster is 80 quid.

[Jofspring]

Its only an initial squad, players could come in and out and it will be brought down in size also.

[White Horse]

How Mark Quigley is not included in a squad of 35 LOI players is beyond me.

[Dodge]

How Mark Quigley is not included in a squad of 35 LOI players is beyond me.

maybe Rico has a no toe rag policy?

[noddy102]

How Mark Quigley is not included in a squad of 35 LOI players is beyond me.

because Jason Byrne has clearly been so much better than Quigley this year....

:confused:

[Dunny]

No, he hasnt.

[noddy102]

No, he hasnt.

ur not the quickest with the old sarcasm

[Dunny]

Really?

[SkStu]

funny how everyone is getting so worked up about this mickey mouse tournament with a token LOI selection and its sh1te manager.

[PartySaint]

funny how everyone is getting so worked up about this mickey mouse tournament with a token LOI selection and its sh1te manager.

Was thinking the same myself, I'm delighted there is only 4 Pat's players in the squad so far, Hopefully non of them have to play

[Ezeikial]

There are few positives for LoI clubs in this farce.

Naturally players who are selected will be keen to test themselves against this level of opposition, and for some players (Danny Kearns for example) it could raise the interest level from cross-channel clubs.

The likes of Dean Bennett and Colin Hawkins have been playing through injuries the last few weeks. From a club perspective what they need is rest not additional training and potentially 2 games in 24 hours.

[SwanVsDalton]

Chill out lads. It's just a kick about around the Aviva. I'm sure the players selected will enjoy it and maybe even raise their profile to boot. Sure we all know the heights Ryan Coyle hit after he scored the winner for Derry against Celtic in the 1997's Matchwinners Tourney (or whatever it was called).

[Dunny]

Quigs has a message for Rico..:D

http://oi51.tinypic.com/ndpt00.jpg

[White Horse]

Dundalk FC striker Mark Quigley insists he “doesn’t have to prove a point to anybody” as he brushed off his omission from Damien Richardson’s provisional Airtricity League squad for the upcoming Dublin Super Cup.
The news of his absence from the 35-man panel came as a surprise on Monday, but Quigley, who answered the watching Richardson in no uncertain terms at the Carlisle Grounds on Tuesday evening, says he will use the week off to enjoy a first holiday with his family.

“No, it wasn’t a message – I don’t have to prove a point to anybody,” Mark told dundalkfc.com. “The players that I play with every day and the players that I’ve played with throughout my career, they know what I can do, so I don’t have a point to prove to anybody.” When asked if he was disappointed to miss out, he said: “No, not really. I didn’t expect to get picked anyway, so I’m going to book my holiday now and go away with the family. He’s after picking his 35-man squad and that’s it now.”

http://www.dundalkfc.com/i-dont-have-to-prove-a-point-to-anybody-quigley

Mark Quigley brushed aside his suprise omission from Damien Richardson's 35 man squad last night with a complete performance in the 5-1 demolition of Bray Wanderers.

He also drew a line under any potential call up to the squad by booking a family holiday and saying "He’s after picking his 35-man squad and that’s it now.”

[legendz]

He should have been picked. He is dead right to press on and book his holiday. I'd like to hear Richardson's response to Quigley's goals and the reasons behind his omission.

[Dodge]

He should have been picked. He is dead right to press on and book his holiday. I'd like to hear Richardson's response to Quigley's goals and the reasons behind his omission.

Huh? He think the other strikers are better. what more do you need?