Limerick Desmond League 2010/11

[Have It]

What about some fit girl refs..... No one would give a sh**e about bad decisions then ;)

[Gearysfan]

I would definitely agree with that. But to be fit they wouldn't be irish. Ha ha

[omarbarksdale]

I agree completely with Gearysfans' last two posts. Sorry to go on about the Askeaton NCW game (cracker) but I had roughly the same viewing angle as Paul O'Brien for Shay Lyons' tackle on Anthony Ryan and as Shay said, his tackle went in just as Ryan tipped the ball ahead, so I wasn't sure, until I witnessed Ryan's reaction when nothing was given. I think Paul O'Brien was the same because he didn't book Ryan for what were heated remonstrations, so he must've realised his mistake. On young Griffin, he's a great talent; good brain, pace, and strength (for a wee fella) and a great strike of a ball.

On refs, give em a break, we're all human, the amount of whingin is sickening sometimes from a lot of teams and if certain refs have a problem with certain teams there's nothing we can do. It's wrong but teams can (and should) only get on with playing football.

Lastly, hopefully the Shannonside v Askeaton game will be as good this weekend.

[Leeroybrown]

Agree with Omarbarksdale's comment about refs and getting on with the game. Have you ever seen a ref change his mind once he's given a decision, it's pointless. I know teams and individuals can feel aggrieved, but once the decision is made thats that. Constant compaints can prejudice a referee. As well as that the ref's don't have linesmen to help them out and its very awkward to see everything given their angles and the pace of some players.
Two good games this weekend, looking forward to the Shannonside/Askeaton match.

[Leeroybrown]

One other point about the ref's, if it wasn't for them, we'd have no matches, everything would descend into a kickabout. They will make mistakes, as do we all, but we still need them, even the bad ones.

Anyone know when the oscar traynor side is selected?

[Notaclue]

I agree with omarbarkdale, this young Willie Griffin is a great talent. He is quick and strong for his size and plays with a smile on his face, which suggests that he takes everything in his stride and get on with things even though they may not have gone his way. Definitely one for consideration for the interleague side. He also gets his share of goals and links up play well. Should be a great game on Sunday away to Shannonside and given both sides start to the season, it would suggest a draw. Not wanting to have to go back to last Sunday but I think knocking the ref by some obvious Askeaton supporters doesn't really help. As Leeroybrown says, just get on with the game and deal with things as they happen is the best way forward.

[western gale]

Premier Division
Shannonside 2 Askeaton 1

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Munster Junior Cup 1st Round
Killeaney 3 St. Itas 2 . Itas were two up in this game

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Premier Division
Rathkeale 2 Newcastle West 3

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Division 1
Old Mill 2 Kildimo Utd 1

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Premier Division
Glin Rovers 2 Abbeyfeale Utd 4
Shannonside 2 Askeaton 1
Rathkeale 2 Newcastle West 3

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Division 2
Knockaderry 6 Ballysteen 0

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Division 1
Kilcolman Rovers 1 Glantine 1
Old Mill 2 Kildimo Utd 1

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Division 2
Feenagh 3 Kilcornan 1

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FAI Junior Cup 1st Round
Adare Utd 3 Ballingarry 4 aet

[sky blue]

Great result for Shannonside this morning they are looking good this season. they will be hard to beat for the league if they keep showing this kind of form.

[soccer8]

Any reports on these games lads?goalscorers etc....

[western gale]

Reidy Joinery Cup 1st Round
Athea Utd 5 Abbeyfeale Utd B 1

Division 4
St. Itas B 2 Shannonside 2 B

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Division 4
Killeaney B 0 Athea Utd B 2

[Leeroybrown]

Half time, 1 - 0 to Shannonside courtesy Ger Hanlon, Damian Fitzgibbon got the second. Maurice Carrig for Askeaton. Good game in all, played in the right way too. Hard but fair.

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Division 4
St. Itas B 2 Shannonside 2 B
Killeaney B 0 Athea Utd B 2
Newcastle West Rovers B 1 St. Bens 2

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Division 3
Bally Rovers v Glin Rovers B off
Shountrade 0 Mountcollins 3

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Division 2
Knockaderry 6 Ballysteen 0
Feenagh 3 Kilcornan 1
Breska Rovers 0 Newcastle West B 4
Rockhill Rovers 2 Creeves Celtic 0

[Ask me tom]

Shannonside 2-1 Askeaton

Good game in fairness both sides gave everything there wasn't much between the sides at all I'd say but Shannonside took their chances so Askeaton can have no complaints, Surprised if i'm honest to see NCW beat Rathkeale. Another good win for Abbeyfeale today in Glin.

[western gale]

FAI Junior Cup 1st Round
Adare Utd 3 Ballingarry 4, aet
Kilmalley-Ferns Celtic 0 Broadford Utd 1

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round
Killeaney 3 St. Itas 2

Reidy Joinery Cup 1st Round
Athea Utd 5 Abbeyfeale Utd B 1

Premier Division
Glin Rovers 2 Abbeyfeale Utd 4
Shannonside 2 Askeaton 1
Rathkeale 2 Newcastle West 3

Division 1
Kilcolman Rovers 1 Glantine 1
Old Mill 2 Kildimo Utd 1

Division 2
Knockaderry 6 Ballysteen 0
Feenagh 3 Kilcornan 1
Breska Rovers 0 Newcastle West B 4
Rockhill Rovers 2 Creeves Celtic 0
Rathkeale B V Granagh Utd off

Division 3
Bally Rovers V Glin Rovers B off
Adare Utd B 0 Ballingarry B 0
Shountrade 0 Mountcollins 3

Division 4
St Itas B 2 Shannonside B 2
Killeaney B 0 Athea Utd B 2
Newcastle West Rovers B 1 St Bens 2
Pallaskenry B 2 Carrig Celtic 1

[BoyBlue]

Any report on Rathkeale V NCW? League looks wide open which is good, might be a suprise winner!

[western gale]

Sunday 26th September
Munster Junior Cup Preliminary Round (extra time & penalties)
Carrig Celtic V Newcastle West 1130 (T. Fitzmaurice)

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties)
Adare Utd V Rathkeale 1030 (G. O’Connor)
Broadford Utd V Glin Rovers 1130 (P. O’Brien)
Athea Utd V Granagh Utd 1130 (P. O’Donnell)
Pallaskenry B V Ballingarry 1130 (P. O’Connor)

Reidy Joinery Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties)
St. Itas V Breska Rovers 1130 (S. Hartnett)
Shountrade V St. Itas B 1130 (C. Dalton)
Shannonside FC B V Carrig Celtic B in Shanagolden 230 (G. O’Connor)
Rathkeale B V St. Bens 230 (C. Dalton)
Ferry Rangers V Athea Utd B 230 (J. Roche)
Bally Rovers V Adare Utd B 230 (P. O’Donnell)

Weekly Observer Premier Division
Abbeyfeale Utd V Askeaton 1130 (J. Roche)
Shannonside FC V Newcastle West Rovers in Shanagolden 1130 (L. O’Connor)

Weekly Observer Division 1
Kildimo Utd V Pallaskenry 1130 (D. O’Gorman)
Old Mill V Abbeyfeale Utd B 230 (T. Fitzmaurice)

Weekly Observer Division 2
Newcastle West B V Feenagh 230 (P. O’Brien)

Weekly Observer Division 3
Broadford Utd B V Ballingarry B 230 (M. Houlihan)
Askeaton B V Glin Rovers B 230 (N. Allen)



Saturday 25th September
FAI U-17s Cup Preliminary Round (extra time & penalties) all 230
Breska Rovers V Kilcornan (T. Fitzmaurice)
Rathkeale V Creeves Celtic (L. O’Connor)
Broadford Utd V Killarney Celtic (J. Roche)

Limerick Desmond U-17s Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties) all 230
Ballingarry V Athea Utd (P. King)
Glin Rovers V Abbeyfeale Utd at Lanterns Hotel pitch (M. Houlihan)
Feenagh V Killeaney (S. Hartnett)

Youths Division 2, all 230
Carrig Celtic V Bally Rovers (C. Dalton)
Ferry Rangers V Pallaskenry (N. Allen)

[Gearysfan]

Any report on Rathkeale V NCW? League looks wide open which is good, might be a suprise winner!

Went to watch this one. League winners for the past two seasons so i said it would be good. It was an enjoyable game to watch with plenty of chances for both sides. Power and young shanahan stole the show for me. Power got 2 and shanahan scored the winner. Rathkeale still are the best team in the league to pass a ball by a long way compared to any other team. They missed barry up front in my opinion.
Its a great start to the league to see it all changed but i will say that you should not rule out NCW or Rathkeale come the end of the season. They both showed enough fight yesterday to suggest that they dont want to just let the title slip away

[limkdesmond]

Went to watch this one. League winners for the past two seasons so i said it would be good. It was an enjoyable game to watch with plenty of chances for both sides. Power and young shanahan stole the show for me. Power got 2 and shanahan scored the winner. Rathkeale still are the best team in the league to pass a ball by a long way compared to any other team. They missed barry up front in my opinion.
Its a great start to the league to see it all changed but i will say that you should not rule out NCW or Rathkeale come the end of the season. They both showed enough fight yesterday to suggest that they dont want to just let the title slip away

I went to the match as well and i must agree with you..i thought shanahan was man of the match in my eyes..played outstanding and got the winner..power also played well and got two good goals including a great free kick..rathkeale are a good passing team and showed it yesterday..rathkeale got 2 soft goals.long range shot that the stand in keeper misjudged it and went in and the second the keeper palmed the ball off a ncw defender and went in for an own goal..

[limkdesmond]

Sunday 26th September
Munster Junior Cup Preliminary Round (extra time & penalties)
Carrig Celtic V Newcastle West 1130 (away)

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties)
Adare Utd V Rathkeale 1030 (away)
Broadford Utd V Glin Rovers 1130 (home)
Athea Utd V Granagh Utd 1130 (home)
Pallaskenry B V Ballingarry 1130 (away)

Reidy Joinery Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties)
St. Itas V Breska Rovers 1130 (home)
Shountrade V St. Itas B 1130 (home)
Shannonside FC B V Carrig Celtic B in Shanagolden 230 (away)
Rathkeale B V St. Bens 230 (home)
Ferry Rangers V Athea Utd B 230 (home)
Bally Rovers V Adare Utd B 230 (home)

Weekly Observer Premier Division
Abbeyfeale Utd V Askeaton 1130 (home)
Shannonside FC V Newcastle West Rovers in Shanagolden 1130 (home)

Weekly Observer Division 1
Kildimo Utd V Pallaskenry 1130 (home)
Old Mill V Abbeyfeale Utd B 230 (home)

Weekly Observer Division 2
Newcastle West B V Feenagh 230 (home)

Weekly Observer Division 3
Broadford Utd B V Ballingarry B 230 (home)
Askeaton B V Glin Rovers B 230 (home)

[Ask me tom]

I went to the match as well and i must agree with you..i thought shanahan was man of the match in my eyes..played outstanding and got the winner..power also played well and got two good goals including a great free kick..rathkeale are a good passing team and showed it yesterday..rathkeale got 2 soft goals.long range shot that the stand in keeper misjudged it and went in and the second the keeper palmed the ball off a ncw defender and went in for an own goal..

NCW seem to have trouble keeping a consistant goalkeeper, over the last 3 years I've seen Noel Murphy, John joe Sheehy, Pa Kenrick, Tommy Quinn(pretty sure I've missed out on 1or2 more) all play in goals at some stage or another do you think this could effect their chances of winning the league? It certainly seemed to cost them against Athea in the cup semi final last year anyway.

[Notaclue]

NCW seem to have trouble keeping a consistant goalkeeper, over the last 3 years I've seen Noel Murphy, John joe Sheehy, Pa Kenrick, Tommy Quinn(pretty sure I've missed out on 1or2 more) all play in goals at some stage or another do you think this could effect their chances of winning the league? It certainly seemed to cost them against Athea in the cup semi final last year anyway.

How about Willie Kavanagh?

[Leeroybrown]

Having a confident and regular goalkeeper does help especially for a settled back line. Chopping and changing keepers can lead to confusion and mix ups, particularly at set pieces. Will this hamper NCW's title challenge hard to say, they're a quality side, mixture of experience and youth and the back 4 generally don't let much slip by. I wouldn't write them off for the title this season just yet, very early days. They will be there and there abouts, even if they dont' eventually win it, they'll have a big say in where the title does go.
For Rathkeale its 2 defeats I don't think they can afford too many more, if any. In saying that though, they're another quality side with good players, and as already mentioned, do pass the ball extremely well. Very hard to break down and don't usually concede many. Both teams will be there and there abouts, and if are not winning the title themselves, they will have a massive part to play in where the title eventually goes.
What do people think of Abbeyfeales chances this year?

[last man back]

whats the feeling out there on the 10.30 kick off (1.30 afternoon games) last couple of weekends due to all ireland finals.
Personally I think it should be these kick off times every week, they use these times in the city league and it seems to work out ok.

[Leeroybrown]

I'd agree with a change in kick off times. I would like to see all matches with a 10:30 kick off but I understand the problems involved in that, particularly with the number of referees involved. 10:30 kick off's are a good time as it allows fellas to be able to do something with the remainder of their Sunday's, especially those with families. Even the afternoon matches being brought forward are a good idea. How about playing some of the matches on a Friday evening aswell?

[soccer8]

[QUOTE=Leeroybrown;1403260]I'd agree with a change in kick off times. I would like to see all matches with a 10:30 kick off but I understand the problems involved in that, particularly with the number of referees involved. 10:30 kick off's are a good time as it allows fellas to be able to do something with the remainder of their Sunday's, especially those with families. Even the afternoon matches being brought forward are a good idea. How about playing some of the matches on a Friday evening aswell?[/QUOTE

I think more night games are the way to go ....are Abbeyfeale the only club in the league that have night games?

[snafu]

personally id like to keep the current KO times. 10.30 is a bit early on a Sunday morning especially if you are travelling a good distance to an away game. There used be evening games at the start of previous seasons but not this season for some reason. playing games on a Fri nite at this stage would not be practical due to the evenings shortening. Im surprised at the NCW goalkeeper situation for a town with a population 3 or 4 times greater than the next biggest town in the league that they cant get a regular keeper. Keith Power has played there aswell. Abbeyfeale remind me of a poor mans arsenal they can play some nice soccer but when push comes to shove they never really amount to anything. NCW for the prem title. i wonder what is up with broadord,glin and r.keale and their poor starts to the league?

Abbeyfeale are the only team with floodlighting...

[Notaclue]

About the kickoff times perhaps 11.00 and 2.00pm would be better. During the winter a lot of cup matches k.o. at 2.00pm as they may require e.t. and pens. I for one would think that in mid-winter it would be nice for all concerned to be home in time for the premier game on tv. As for 11.00am it wouldn't be too much of an inconvenience to everybody concerned. What about playing midweek games in Clounreask as it's not overly used during the winter months?

[western gale]

Sunday 26th September
Munster Junior Cup Preliminary Round (et & pens)
Carrig Celtic V Newcastle West 1130 (away)

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round (eta & pens)
Adare Utd V Rathkeale 1030 (away)
Broadford Utd V Glin Rovers 1130 (away)
Athea Utd V Granagh Utd 1130 (home)
Pallaskenry B V Ballingarry 1130 (away)

Reidy Joinery Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
St. Itas V Breska Rovers 1130 (home)
Shountrade V St. Itas B 1130 (home)
Shannonside FC B V Carrig Celtic B in Shanagolden 230 (home)
Rathkeale B V St. Bens 230 (home)
Ferry Rangers V Athea Utd B 230 (home)
Bally Rovers V Adare Utd B 230 (home)

Weekly Observer Premier Division
Abbeyfeale Utd V Askeaton 1130 (draw)
Shannonside FC V Newcastle West Rovers in Shanagolden 1130 (home)

Weekly Observer Division 1
Kildimo Utd V Pallaskenry 1130 (home)
Old Mill V Abbeyfeale Utd B 230 (home)

Weekly Observer Division 2
Newcastle West B V Feenagh 230 (draw)

Weekly Observer Division 3
Broadford Utd B V Ballingarry B 230 (home)
Askeaton B V Glin Rovers B 230 (home)

[western gale]

Playing midweek games in Clounreask might be an option if clubs are willing to pay for doing so, far as I know the junior league charge either €100 or €150 per game. This might be an ok amount for some clubs but may not be for others. When you factor in that some clubs may want to hire out Clounreask more than once but because of the current finiancial climate may not be able to do so. Just a thought

[western gale]

Saturday 25th September

FAI U-17s Cup Preliminary Round (et & pens)
Breska Rovers V Kilcornan (away)
Rathkeale V Creeves Celtic (home)
Broadford Utd V Killarney Celtic (away)

Limerick Desmond U-17s Cup 1st Round (et & pens)
Ballingarry V Athea Utd (home)
Glin Rovers V Abbeyfeale Utd (home)
Feenagh V Killeaney (away)

Youths Division 2
Carrig Celtic V Bally Rovers (home)
Ferry Rangers V Pallaskenry (home)

[BoyBlue]

10.30 / 1.30 Kick Off sounds like a great idea. I don't think any of the teams have got too far to travel, apart from maybe Breska or Ferry.

[Ask me tom]

About the kick-off times, most clubs already struggle to get a bit of a crowd to watch matches at 11.30. There would be no chance at all getting people to watch games on a Sunday morning if it was 10.30 everyweek so I'm not so sure it's a great idea. On the other hand though 2.30 is very late and your whole day is gone if your waiting for a match at that time.

P.s. Also we saw with the bad frost last winter a lot of games went ahead at 11.30 that would no way have went ahead at 10.30 between how bad the roads were and the fields, at least at 11.30 they get some chance of defrosting.

[omarbarksdale]

Wo wo woh!! what's all this about bringing the games forward an hour for every weekend? Someone mentioned families there. Pah! What about us single boys who are out til all hours of a sat nite/sun morning?? That extra hours sleep could be the difference between scoring a hat trick or being nutmegged on your goal line in the dying minutes of a tied game. Where's the humanity? ...Jesus!!

[snafu]

That extra hours sleep could be the difference between scoring a hat trick or being nutmegged on your goal line in the dying minutes of a tied game. Where's the humanity? ...Jesus!!

You could always stay in the night before a match.... just throwing it out there.

Was looking at Abbeyfeales "great" start to the season, turns out the 3 teams they beat have a combined points total of 1 point after 10 games between them. So maybe they shouldnt be getting too excited.

Broadford normally come good in the second half of the season so i reckon they'll avoid the drop. Even though its early days I'd worry for Adare. Im unsure about Glin too.


10.30 itself doesnt sound too early, but most Prem teams do 3/4 hour warm up. so thats being at the pitch around 9.35 to get changed etc.
so how long would it take (as an extreme example) to get from ferry to breska? 30 mins? So thats leaving the house at around 9. and there's the breakfast and everything before that.
I just think its a bit early is all

and not many teams would be able to afford to rent Clounreask too regularly. NCW rovers will be praying for a mild winter methinks

[omarbarksdale]

[QUOTE=snafu;1403842]You could always stay in the night before a match.... just throwing it out there.

Ya right.

But ya you're right snafu, teams like Abbey and Ferry are a good 35 - 40 mins drive from a lotta places. But realistically if the times were changed, not much else would change, everyone would still go to a match at 10:30 that they would've gone to at 11:30. Ask me tom makes a valid point about the hard frost and that's the only real reason not to change times. Anyway, is it on the cards outside this website or just a suggestion someone made here?
Has the Oscar Traynor side been picked or what's the story with that? have I missed it?

[snafu]

The only issues brought up at the meeting preseason were playing the league cup first and having 8 teams in the premier (I think?).
I dont think it has been brought up outside this website. Perhaps it would be something to think about for next season.


I havnt heard anything about the Oscar traynor team yet.
I can only presume that Shannonside will be represented well in it.

[limkdesmond]

maybe they should look into bringing the games forward to 10.30am only at start of the season while the weather is ok like no frost or snow and put it back to 11.30am in the winter time...

2 good games this weekend in abbeyfeale v askeaton and shannonside v newcastle rovers....it should be interesting

[Leeroybrown]

I like the comment about the young single lads getting that extra hours sleep.... You young lads should have plenty of energy to be able to do both... But it doesn't last forever hahaha. I was thinking of the more experienced, mature, settled player. No I don't think this issue was discussed. Would be interesting to get a feel of what the players felt.
Was there any reasons given as to why they would reduce the premier league? Playing a few games at Clounreask is a great idea but I don't think its practical for many clubs, given the costs involved. If clubs were able to come to an agreement with one another, perhaps both sides sharing the costs...Then maybe so.This would then perhaps encourage more sides to charge people a minimal fee to come and watch.
Valid point Ask me Tom makes when he mentions the hard frost late last season....I think we'll all be praying for a mild winter this year.
Nothing heard about the Oscar Traynor side yet, does anyone know who is going to be manager? Who do people think will make the side this year? Anyone who should definitely be there?

[Leeroybrown]

Abbeyfeale and Askeaton should be a good one... As should Shannonside and Rovers, both sides unbeaten nad will be determined to be so come the end of ninety minutes. Going for a draw and a shannonside (close) win.