Limerick Desmond League 2010/11

['El Nino']

I dont think being top with a 100% record after 6 games has much to do with luck!.

I reckon the killeaney ballingarry game next weekend will be a good one.

It will be interesting to see if adares form improves after their loss in the gaa yesterday

I think David Lavin was the only one playing football yesterday that plays soccer for Adare?He is their best player and will help keep them organised at the back.Will they collect any points this year I wonder ,its hard to see ?

['El Nino']

The Youth league is turning into an absolute disaster. Teams giving walkovers, turning up with 8/9 players, sometimes 14/15 year olds. I know thats a problem for at least 5 clubs. Anyone got any ideas whats wrong and what could be done about it?

Draper, I think there is so many other sports out there now and the same fellas are asked to play all of them.
That includes egg chasing ( AKA Rubgy) where you have munster doing well in the last few years and every body in the province jumping on the bandwagon.Its very funny to see certain people donning the red of munster ,I'd like to ask half the rules.Thats one problem I can see anyway,and thats why they have to ask the 14/15 year olds.

[BlueAndWhite]

The Youth league is turning into an absolute disaster. Teams giving walkovers, turning up with 8/9 players, sometimes 14/15 year olds. I know thats a problem for at least 5 clubs. Anyone got any ideas whats wrong and what could be done about it?
Once lads hit 17 or 18 they loose interest in sport they would rather go out with their friends instead. Also some of them leave their own clubs to join bigger clubs because they want to win something. What 5 clubs are you talking of if you dont mind me asking?

[Draper]

I know the 2 Newcastle teams, Broadford, Askeaton and Abbeyfeale are all struggling to fill teams, it doesnt help that the GAA continues till late October. One solution which is 20 years away would be to run the entire Youth league on Friday nights under lights.
Once lads hit 17 or 18 they loose interest in sport they would rather go out with their friends instead. Also some of them leave their own clubs to join bigger clubs because they want to win something. What 5 clubs are you talking of if you dont mind me asking?

['El Nino']

I agree with the 20years !!! Just to chnage the subject slightly would anyone agree that the league should make a rule that you cannot be promoted to the premier league unless you have at least a dressing room to tog-out in ? Kildimo springs to mind where if you dont tog out before you arrive at their pitch you are forced to do so in a car.Surely them days are gone and if would force certain clubs to improve their fascilities.I wont say anything about the pitch !! Is there any other club in the entire league that does not have at least a cabin to tog out in ?? Nothing against Kildimo, I'm only wondering.

[BlueAndWhite]

I know the 2 Newcastle teams, Broadford, Askeaton and Abbeyfeale are all struggling to fill teams, it doesnt help that the GAA continues till late October. One solution which is 20 years away would be to run the entire Youth league on Friday nights under lights.
Really? Not to be offensive but thats a joke if you ask me these big areas cant fill teams and you have smaller clubs such as Creeves, Ferry Rangers, Bally Rovers fielding teams every week. For big clubs such as the ones you named i think it is a very bad showing for the league. The thing about having youths matches friday nights is some players dont finish college til 6 so they wouldnt be able to make the games. About the GAA i agree this weekend alone i know Broadford and Bally Rovers are effected by the GAA because Shannon Gaels(Glin, Ballyhahill) and Drom/Broadford have a Semi final Saturday at 3.30, 1 hour after the youths matches kick off!

[last man back]

Pity to see the youth teams struggling draper, a lot of people putting it down to other sports which is a factor but there not going to change to suit soccer. The Desmond League need to be thinking outside the box here before its to late , what you think
of making it u19's or u20's instead. A lot of players stop playing after youths,this mite encourage more to keep playing for another season or two.

I wuldnt be expecting too much leadership from the league with this , anytime a proposal is made to improve things in the league its shot down from the top table at the AGM

[BlueAndWhite]

Glin Rovers? Because they have moved temporarily to Ferry Rangers old pitch behind the Lanterns. Not sure if they got portable dressing rooms or anything tho.

[western gale]

Glin Rovers far as I know have portable changing rooms while they are playing at The Lanterns

[Have It]

Pity to see the youth teams struggling draper, a lot of people putting it down to other sports which is a factor but there not going to change to suit soccer. The Desmond League need to be thinking outside the box here before its to late , what you think
of making it u19's or u20's instead. A lot of players stop playing after youths,this mite encourage more to keep playing for another season or two.

I wuldnt be expecting too much leadership from the league with this , anytime a proposal is made to improve things in the league its shot down from the top table at the AGM
I agree with you there. The meetings are supposed to be for clubs to put forward ideas. But they are never even considered. The board is back in the dark ages and should be changed. There are 1 or 2 who I wont name, but everyone in the Desmond league knows they only look out for their own clubs. Its all back rubbing, high fives and cosy cartels. A vote was cast to put back the season by a wk at the AGM in July and after a re-count it was decided to have another vote at the next meeting. Can people not count right or what ?
On the youths, its hard to find a solution alright, but very disappointing to see its mostly the big towns/clubs that find it hard to fill teams. Something very wrong about that situation.

[FiveB]

We dont have a problem fielding a youths team in Askeaton i would like that to be made CLEAR!!, because what is stated above is incorrect. Also the last 2 weeks in a row we have received walkovers from Broadford. The first match was called off the friday at 3-4 PM, the second match was called off at 1.30 on the saturday with the match due to KO and all our players ready to tog off (some took time off work too). I dont have a problem with broadford at all, but for the love of god the club surely knew that they had 2 county finals both weekends. So getting a phone call on the saturday when we are at the pitch is nothing short of a joke.

[Draper]

Word has it Askeaton only had 9 players for that Broadford fixture? Maybe thats not so, I dont really know but thats the word. Broadford genuinly thaught they could fulfill the fixture despite a county final the day before but the players let them down last minute. Agree its not fair on Askeaton but dealing with 18 year olds is a tough job these days. One thing we're all agreed on I think, its a difficult age...
We dont have a problem fielding a youths team in Askeaton i would like that to be made CLEAR!!, because what is stated above is incorrect. Also the last 2 weeks in a row we have received walkovers from Broadford. The first match was called off the friday at 3-4 PM, the second match was called off at 1.30 on the saturday with the match due to KO and all our players ready to tog off (some took time off work too). I dont have a problem with broadford at all, but for the love of god the club surely knew that they had 2 county finals both weekends. So getting a phone call on the saturday when we are at the pitch is nothing short of a joke.

[walkover]

Anyone know how the Oscar Traynor friendly went last night??

[limkdesmond]

FAI JUNIOR CUP 3RD ROUND
CLARE-DESMOND-KERRY

1 Rock Rovers v Killarney Celtic
2 Castleisland V Kilcolman Rvs
3 Newcastlewest v Abbeyfeale Utd.
4 Knockaderry v Kileaney
5 Broadford Utd. v Castlegregory Rgs
6 Kilkishen Clt. v Bunratty F.C.
7 Avenue Utd. v Rathkeale F.C.
8 Killarney Athletic v Listowel Clt.

[Harry Lime]

Some youths action from today. Rathkeale v Abbeyfeale.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1224/5107834336_633eafe5f7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seanryan/sets/72157625223944670/)

[BlueAndWhite]

Munster Youths Cup 2nd Round
Newcastle West Rovers 2 4 Bally Rovers

Youths Division 2
Kilcornan 5 0 Glin Rovers

Munster Youths Cup 3rd Round
Pallaskenry 1 3 Ferry Rangers

[BlueAndWhite]

[QUOTE=Harry Lime;1415848]Some youths action from today. Rathkeale v Abbeyfeale.

Who won this match?

[western gale]

Munster Youths Cup 2nd Round
Newcastle West Rovers 2 Bally Rovers 4

Munster Youths Cup 3rd Round
Pallaskenry 1 Ferry Rangers 3

Division 1
Rathkeale 3 Abbeyfeale Utd 2
Ballingarry 4 Broadford Utd 1

Division 2
Kilcornan 5 Glin Rovers 0
Carrig Celtic 5 Askeaton 1

[western gale]

Munster Junior Cup 2nd Round
Killeaney 1 Ballingarry 0
St Itas B 0 Rathkeale 6

[western gale]

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round
Pallaskenry 0 Newcastle West 3

[western gale]

Munster Junior Cup 2nd Round
Glantine 2 Broadford Utd 0

[western gale]

Reidy Cup 1st Round
Broadford Utd B 4 Killeaney B 2

Reidy Cup 2nd Round
Kildimo Utd 3 Shannonside B 2

Division 1
Athea Utd A 4 Abbeyfeale Utd B 2
St Itas 2 Carrig Celtic 1

Division 3
Glin Rovers B 0 Mountcollins 2

Division 4
Newcastle West Rovers B 1 Glantine B 1
St Bens 3 Athea Utd B 1

[western gale]

Reidy Cup 2nd Round
Ferry Rangers 1 Ballingarry B 0

[western gale]

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round
Pallaskenry 0 Newcastle West 3

Munster Junior Cup 2nd Round
Killeaney 1 Ballingarry 0
St Itas B 0 Rathkeale 6
Glantine 2 Broadford Utd 0

Reidy Cup 1st Round
Broadford Utd B 4 Killeaney B 2

Reidy Cup 2nd Round
Shountrade 0 Adare Utd B 1
Granagh Utd 3 Rockhill Rovers 1
Ferry Rangers 1 Ballingarry B 0
Kildimo Utd 3 Shannonside B 2
Rathkeale B 5 Newcastle West B 2

Division 1
Athea Utd A 4 Abbeyfeale Utd B 2
St Itas 2 Carrig Celtic 1

Division 2
Feenagh 2 Breska Rovers 3

Division 3
Glin Rovers B 0 Mountcollins 2

Division 4
Newcastle West Rovers B 1 Glantine B 1
St Bens 3 Athea Utd B 1

[happy days]

Munster Junior Cup 1st Round
Pallaskenry 0 Newcastle West 3


Went to see this game and NCW wer outplayed by the Div 1 side for best part of game should have been 2 up after 10 mins..Ncw Scored 2 in injury injury to wrap it up ( all bad..Ncw wer very poor but give credit to Pallaskenry they played some great football at times..Ronan ( I think his name is played with rathkeale b4) gave O'Donnell and Geary a great test . A very clever player. Heard a few ncw lads had sick heads too which Noel will not be happy about...Need to improve for league.

[Horan01]

Fixtures 30/31 October 2010

Saturday 30th October
FAI Youths Cup 2nd Round (extra time & penalties)
Askeaton V Bally Rovers (D. Wallace) 1130
Newcastle West V Glin Rovers (T. Fitzmaurice) 230
Rathkeale V Lisselton Rovers (P. O’Brien) 230

Sunday 31st October
Munster Senior Cup 2nd Round (extra time & penalties)
Rathkeale V Carrick Utd 2pm (L. O’Connor, T. Fitzmaurice, G. O’Connor)

Munster Junior Cup 2nd Round (extra time & penalties)
Abbeyfeale Utd V Old Mill 1130 (J. Roche)
Newcastle West V Granagh Utd 1130 (P. O’Brien)
Shannonside FC V Kildimo Utd in Shanagolden 1130 (M. Houlihan)

Reidy Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties)
Glin Rovers B V Kilcornan in Lanterns Hotel Pitch 230 (D. O’Gorman)

Reidy Cup 2nd Round (extra time & penalties)
Glantine V Breska Rovers 1130 (P. O’Donnell)

Richard Hogan Cup 1st Round (extra time & penalties)
Broadford Utd B V Newcastle West Rovers B 230 (P. O’Brien)
Killeaney B V Newcastle West B 230 (M. Houlihan)

Richard Hogan Cup 2nd Round (extra time & penalties)
Pallaskenry B V Rathkeale B 1100 in Salesians College pitch (P. O’Connor)
St. Bens V Carrig Celtic B 1130 (C. Dalton)
Askeaton B V Feenagh 230 (N. Allen)

Weekly Observer Premier Division
Glin Rovers V Broadford Utd in Lanterns Hotel Pitch 1130 (D. O’Gorman)
Newcastle West Rovers V Askeaton 1100 (G. O’Connor)
Adare Utd V Killeaney 1130 (P. Manning)

Weekly Observer Division 1
Athea Utd V Kilcolman Rovers 1130 (S. Hartnett)
Ballingarry V Pallaskenry 1100 (T. Fitzmaurice)
Abbeyfeale Utd B V Carrig Celtic 230 (C. Dalton)

Weekly Observer Division 2
Creeves Celtic V Knockaderry 230 (B. Barry)

Weekly Observer Division 3
Shountrade V Bally Rovers 1130 (N. Allen)
Mountcollins V Ballingarry B 230 (P. O’Donnell)

Weekly Observer Division 4
Athea Utd B V Shannonside FC B 230 (J. Roche)

['El Nino']

A nice home game for Shannonside to bounce back from their free Sunday.Things are falling into place nicely for them.

['El Nino']

I suppose the shock of yesterday was Broadford losing to Glantine. Its obvious to me there is a steady in decline in both Broadford and Glin when it comes to soccer.I notice poor results in nearly all grades for Glin.Two relatively big clubs who challenge for honours nearly yearly. If their not pushing the bigger clubs the standard will decline throughout the league. Its not as if they don not have the numbers either .

[Bobby D]

Anyone got any info on Rathkeale were playing them Sunday in senior cup,is there pitch any good and have they good facilities.

[Have It]

Anyone got any info on Rathkeale were playing them Sunday in senior cup,is there pitch any good and have they good facilities.
Pitch is very good, dressng rooms not so good, very small. They are a good passing side on their day, danger men everywhere...

['El Nino']

Bobby D, the conditions are as good as you get.Rathkeale had dressings rooms when nobody had them.They have 3 showers,fully tiled and a toilet and are not small.They are built into the covered stand you can see all this on the club website.

[last man back]

You obviously havnt been in there away dressing room el nino, it was fairly rough last season

[FiveB]

Bobby D, i only played there 2 weeks ago and the pitch is in fine nick. Buf ffs the toilets and the showers in the away dressing rooms are nothing short of disgusting. I would not go for a shower there in a fit i went over to the bushes for a wee this that bad and im not exaggerating!

['El Nino']

FiveB, your user name says a lot about you ! You should be more worried about your teams behaviour on the field,now thats a disgrace.It not that long ago that ye used to be togging out in a cabin with lime all over the place.I wont mention the field ye used to have !
Bobby D, you will have a clean dressing room to tog out in and warm showers and there is usually sandwichs put on for teams like yerselves in the local bar.

Now lets leave at that lads and look forward to the game .

[snafu]

the r.keale away dressing rooms are small to be fair,only having 3 showers is a bit annoying and the last time i visited there wasnt a door for the bathroom. However id put that down to the age of the dressing rooms. It wouldnt exactly be cheap to upgrade them.

The pitch is pretty spot on which is really all that matters.

[Have It]

FiveB, your user name says a lot about you ! You should be more worried about your teams behaviour on the field,now thats a disgrace.It not that long ago that ye used to be togging out in a cabin with lime all over the place.I wont mention the field ye used to have !
Bobby D, you will have a clean dressing room to tog out in and warm showers and there is usually sandwichs put on for teams like yerselves in the local bar.

Now lets leave at that lads and look forward to the game .

Last time i was there, there was no door on the jacks either.
What are "teams like yerselves" ?

['El Nino']

To all concerned about the toilets,

The toilets i the dressings are removed/being removed to make more room in the dressing rooms.There are 2 new (at least 12 months open) toilets ( men and women ) in the back of the stand.There is 3 toilets for the men with doors,sink and 3 urinals. The womens one has 2 toilets and a sink. i hope this is all okay for ye now !!

Have It, I meant that we put on food for teams that travel long distances usually in the Munster Junior,FAI or in this case the Munster Senior.

Do you an issue with this aswell ????

[last man back]

To all concerned about the toilets,

The toilets i the dressings are removed/being removed to make more room in the dressing rooms.There are 2 new (at least 12 months open) toilets ( men and women ) in the back of the stand.There is 3 toilets for the men with doors,sink and 3 urinals. The womens one has 2 toilets and a sink. i hope this is all okay for ye now !!

Have It, I meant that we put on food for teams that travel long distances usually in the Munster Junior,FAI or in this case the Munster Senior.

Do you an issue with this aswell ????

Well I suppose ye could throw on a few cocktail sausages aswell !!!

[limkdesmond]

Rathkeale afc have great facilities.. The field is one of the best if not the best in the league.. Have a great stand for when the weather is bad..great training with the astro turf but I must say the dressing rooms aren't in great nick..very small inside there,shower area is very bad and no door to the toilet..but then again some teams don't have dressing Rooms like kildimo where u have to get changed at the sidenof the road in ur car and with no showers

[Have It]

To all concerned about the toilets,

The toilets i the dressings are removed/being removed to make more room in the dressing rooms.There are 2 new (at least 12 months open) toilets ( men and women ) in the back of the stand.There is 3 toilets for the men with doors,sink and 3 urinals. The womens one has 2 toilets and a sink. i hope this is all okay for ye now !!

Have It, I meant that we put on food for teams that travel long distances usually in the Munster Junior,FAI or in this case the Munster Senior.

Do you an issue with this aswell ????

Thank you for clarifying that el nino.
Not too many agree with you about the dressing rooms though. But then this is a forum, people give their opinions, not everyone will agree with what is said. I gave mine and you are entitled to yours.
Noone doubts the high standard of the field or training facilities

[Draper]

All very touchie girls down that end of West Limerick on this site lately.....

[Have It]

Time of the month :p

[Have It]

Anyone know when league cup draws are to be made and started ?

['El Nino']

Dont know that.
Heard the Oscor youths beat Shannonside 3-1 tonight.I assume it was on in Askeaton,Clounreask.Peter Nash (Rathkeale) and a Brian Hanigan got two.Who does he play for?

[mickbrick]

Was at the game last nite.....how Shannonside are top of the table is beyond me. They were outplayed by a bunch of kids. The Youths played much the better football, trying to keep the ball on the deck at all times wheras shannonside resorted to too many hoofed balls.

[historynut]

Noted earlier in the thread someone was advocating charging admission to Desmond League games, but what spectator facillities do Desmond League clubs have ?
Are Rathkeale the only club to have a covered stand (or is it more of a covered terrace ?), aware Newcastlewest ground is enclosed within the Demense but does it have a stand ?

[Have It]

A number of clubs have covered stands or something to that effect. Newcastle, Glin, Rathkeale, Killeaney all have more than adequate stands. And even in the first division the likes of Carrig and Ballingarry have stands too.

[happy days]

Rathkeale afc have great facilities.. The field is one of the best if not the best in the league.. Have a great stand for when the weather is bad..great training with the astro turf but I must say the dressing rooms aren't in great nick..very small inside there,shower area is very bad and no door to the toilet..but then again some teams don't have dressing Rooms like kildimo where u have to get changed at the sidenof the road in ur car and with no showers

As a NCW man, I would agree with you. Old dressing rooms but at least there is something there. Pitch is top notch thats all you need. Plus a covered stand which is a great thing to have at the club. Now lets see if Rathkeale can hold up against a strong Carrick side!!!!!

[western gale]

Carrig and Ballingarry (Div 1) and Kilcornan (Div 2) are clubs outside the premier that have stands while Askeaton have a decent stand too which in this type of weather is well appreciated

[Draper]

Facilities are improving all the time, Rathkeale, NCW, Ballingarry, Glin, Kileaney, Broadford, Askeaton, Carrig all have covered areas for spectators, half of them are seated. People are missing the point of charging €3, just €3 at the gate, its a way of desmond league supporters to support their local club in a small way. GAA clubs are around for 125 years, most soccer clubs are around only 20 years, only emerging the last 10. A lot of soccer clubs are passing out their local GAA counterparts in terms of facilities and charging €3, just €3 at the gate is a way of showing pride in your facilities, not selling yourself short.
Someone else said they thaught it was a disgrace St Bens were charging at the gate as they are in Div 4 with poor facilities, I say fair play to St Bens for doing it, it only pays the ref, the revenue is small but local people can support their local club and keep the whole thing going. Is €3 measley euro not okay to charge for all the work people do on and off the pitch to keep a small football club running?