Tipp South & District League 2010/11

[Quietman]

cant believe saints retain home advantage for refixed game but the reason for this is so strange i actually believe it to be true, you couldnt make something like that up. fixture list for next 2 weeks sees cahir ,peake and galbally without games yet again just shows the early season mid week games are there just to support town and saints get there league fixtures out of the way early so they can go on cup runs. dunno how teams at bottom are gonna keep fellas training and interested if your only prob gonna get 1 game a month abetween now and march/april

Question! - Is Junior football not "Sunday" football?? What if a team refused to play midweek?? Surely a teams of junior players can't be expected to sacrafice work for a junior game? Can they??

[Roberto]

I'd imagine it's the fact that it wasn't deemed as being unplayable......................


I think it is reasonable to suggest that most pitches would have required an official pitch inspection yesterday. Also its not just about whether you deem your pitch playable (the fact they had ther floodlights turned on in an attempt to thaw it suggest they had doubts) but you should also take into consideration the fact that the other team and supporters had to travel. As this game wouldn't have finished until 6.30 it is safe to assume a hard frost would have set in at this stage meaning most people faced a difficult and potentially dangerous journey home. Also could St Michaels not have got a local ref to make a call on whether the pitch was playable and this would have decided where the rescheduled game would have been played. I don't expect Celtic to make much of a fuss anyway as they have no fear of going to Cooke Park.

[Tipp Top]

An absolute disgrace and an outrage that Saints keep home advantage and everyone else in the country lose out,sure what is the point in even talking about it we all know how THIS LEAGUE works,they will have no luck for it,best of luck to Clonmel Celtic the whole county (and Limerick) :) will be rooting for ye

[bishbash]

An absolute disgrace and an outrage that Saints keep home advantage and everyone else in the country lose out,sure what is the point in even talking about it we all know how THIS LEAGUE works,they will have no luck for it,best of luck to Clonmel Celtic the whole county (and Limerick) :) will be rooting for ye

It's an absolute embarrassment, people will come on hear & defend the decision which makes things even worse. I would have more respect for people if they just admitted the fact that every other team are second class citizens compared to St Michaels. the game should have been scheduled for half two at the latest also the reason it was'nt was that St Michaels had something else up there sleeve. People wonder why players from other clubs withdraw their services for the tsdl, maybe cause it feels more like your representing St Michaels than the league as a whole cause this quite obviously proves that no other club in the league really matters. They are just there to make up the numbers. Would they have cared aboput peoples welfare on Sunday night coming home after the game in treacherous weather, hardly cause once St Michaels win the "Holy Grail" of the fai then thats the only real interest they have. An absolute joke of a club.

[Tipp Top]

It's an absolute embarrassment, people will come on hear & defend the decision which makes things even worse. I would have more respect for people if they just admitted the fact that every other team are second class citizens compared to St Michaels. the game should have been scheduled for half two at the latest also the reason it was'nt was that St Michaels had something else up there sleeve. People wonder why players from other clubs withdraw their services for the tsdl, maybe cause it feels more like your representing St Michaels than the league as a whole cause this quite obviously proves that no other club in the league really matters. They are just there to make up the numbers. Would they have cared aboput peoples welfare on Sunday night coming home after the game in treacherous weather, hardly cause once St Michaels win the "Holy Grail" of the fai then thats the only real interest they have. An absolute joke of a club.

Could not argue with one word of that, they are a disgrace and have let themselves down with a bang this time and anybody even attempting to defend this one has no sense of fair play or morals,hang your heads in shame St Michaels and the TSDL

[ComeOnTownNow]

your wrong there balls, i know a man from cahir who tried to get on it two years ago and he cudnt, was given weird reasons as to why

[ponyobrien]

Also want to say, there was a comment about an 8PM kick off on a Sunday night in Cooke Park against Clonmel Celtic. Saints obliged Celtic in this instance because some of their players were playing a GAA game earlier the same day.

This is a complete and utter lie. The fixture was timed to suit St. Michaels players that were returning from international duty.

[ComeOnTownNow]

look michaels get the vip treatment from the league cause of their affiliation with lewis, we just have to get on wit it, johnny lyons rang lewis and told him he wudnt travel to the game yesterday, lewis didnt bother gettin another referee to inspect the pitch, amazingly enough i heard 2 referees called off the game in the Complex cause teehan cudnt get into clonmel. some strokes being pulled here! unreal! i heard the michaels pitch was playable!

[footballfanatic]

and what happened with having there hometown man refereeing there b game last week was even worse. Like a bunch of gangsters.

[bishbash]

look michaels get the vip treatment from the league cause of their affiliation with lewis, we just have to get on wit it, johnny lyons rang lewis and told him he wudnt travel to the game yesterday, lewis didnt bother gettin another referee to inspect the pitch, amazingly enough i heard 2 referees called off the game in the Complex cause teehan cudnt get into clonmel. some strokes being pulled here! unreal! i heard the michaels pitch was playable!

Yeah they said it was playable but does anybody believe for one second that they could not have got someone else to ref it if it was, the whole situation suited them down to the ground to keep hold of home advantage. They may be a big club that have won lots of trophies but they lack class in abundance. Fair play is not in their vocabulary. They will do anything they can to win an FAI. If your not good enough to win it on the field of play then just accept it.

[ComeOnTownNow]

proves the are weary of celtic, i hope the celts take them, michaels deserve nothin more

[ponyobrien]

If they lost home advantage they would probably go crying to Delaney again. They'll end up making a mockery of this competition again.

[bishbash]

the worst part is they deny it all, they have a selection of people involved with the club who will do whatever it takes on or off the pitch. Seems fair play is only for fools.

[Mega Tots]

the worst part is they deny it all, they have a selection of people involved with the club who will do whatever it takes on or off the pitch. Seems fair play is only for fools.

As i said last week on this they are a disgraceful club and AGAIN they have dragged this competition through the mud,were all worse to put up with it

[cufc champions]

As i said last week on this they are a disgraceful club and AGAIN they have dragged this competition through the mud,were all worse to put up with it

But what can be done we cant make them have morals or integrity.

[Quietman]

Heard from St Michaels man, the Club rang the referee and the league several times to try call the game off because the pitch was unplayable. Lewis wouldn't budge. The referee contacted Lewis early in the morning and again at lunch time because he couldn't travel. The league had ample time to either get the pitch inspected or to find a new referee!!:mad: What time were celtic told not to travel??

[West Hammer]

Someone at Celtic should be on the phone to FAI Junior Council to get this looked into. John Hadnett lives only 15mins from Tipp Town!

[ponyobrien]

Heard from St Michaels man, the Club rang the referee and the league several times to try call the game off because the pitch was unplayable. Lewis wouldn't budge. The referee contacted Lewis early in the morning and again at lunch time because he couldn't travel. The league had ample time to either get the pitch inspected or to find a new referee!!:mad: What time were celtic told not to travel??

We planned on meeting at 2.30 in Clonmel, and were informed of the cancellation at 2.20.

Tommy Lewis should have had no say in the matter, unless he was acting in his capacity as vice president of St. Michaels.

[West Hammer]

The game did not have to have linesmen, I'm sure Tom Keating or Michael Freiberg could have checked pitch and as grade 1 refs done the game on their own.

[hooper74]

The game did not have to have linesmen, I'm sure Tom Keating or Michael Freiberg could have checked pitch and as grade 1 refs done the game on their own.

It is a dangerous precedent though if you change referee and then there is a controversial decision in the game,all of a sudden the new argument is that this ref was hand picked by Saints

[GreenLane08]

I don't understand how Old Bridge loose home advantage to Town now in FAI.
Ferryhouse wouldn't leave Old Bridge or any team play in their facilities on Sunday it had nothing to do with the pitch the pitch was fine. Bridge shudn't loose advantage over that.
I don't know why the game was nearly played in the complex as well. Heard Lewis was pushing it to go ahead for some reason.

[Pearoso27]

The real reason the game was called off was because a YETI yes BIG FOOT himself had taken up residence just behind the trees in Cooke Park. He established himself a home there and could not be budged. While assembling his home there he unearthed a cache of weapons with I something A written on top he also came across some bones which have been identified as Equine (RUMOUR HAS IT ITS SHERGAR). Also discovered were flight tickets to and from Dallas Texas dating back to the 22nd of November 1963, yes folks the day Kennedy was shot! I KID YOU NOT!
Get a grip people please!

[hooper74]

I don't understand how Old Bridge loose home advantage to Town now in FAI.
Ferryhouse wouldn't leave Old Bridge or any team play in their facilities on Sunday it had nothing to do with the pitch the pitch was fine. Bridge shudn't loose advantage over that.
I don't know why the game was nearly played in the complex as well. Heard Lewis was pushing it to go ahead for some reason.

Did oldbridge not switch the game to the complex that morning? and who cancelled the game, was it the ref who was assigned to it?

[Insidetherock]

The real reason the game was called off was because a YETI yes BIG FOOT himself had taken up residence just behind the trees in Cooke Park. He established himself a home there and could not be budged. While assembling his home there he unearthed a cache of weapons with I something A written on top he also came across some bones which have been identified as Equine (RUMOUR HAS IT ITS SHERGAR). Also discovered were flight tickets to and from Dallas Texas dating back to the 22nd of November 1963, yes folks the day Kennedy was shot! I KID YOU NOT!
Get a grip people please!


Is that true ???

Damn...

Wait, that's all a lie, isn't it.. Yeti can't speak English.. how do you know he did all those things?

On the wider issue however though.. personally, I think it is wrong in any case, that a club should lose home advantage over what is esentially an act of God i.e. the weather. In fact, changing fixtures based on the weather could lead to games being played on dangerous surfaces, just because a team wants to retain home advantage

St Michaels weren't the cause of the freezing temperatures last weekend.. so why should they be disadvantaged by them.. no more than Old Bridge should have been either. The original fixtures should stand

[hooper74]

Is that true ???

Damn...

Wait, that's all a lie, isn't it.. Yeti can't speak English.. how do you know he did all those things?

On the wider issue however though.. personally, I think it is wrong in any case, that a club should lose home advantage over what is esentially an act of God i.e. the weather. In fact, changing fixtures based on the weather could lead to games being played on dangerous surfaces, just because a team wants to retain home advantage

St Michaels weren't the cause of the freezing temperatures last weekend.. so why should they be disadvantaged by them.. no more than Old Bridge should have been either. The original fixtures should stand

It is all much ado about nothing,i am surprised Saints keep home advantage but there is a rule in place so where is the problem with taking advanage of this,be foolish not to,i do not think Celtic will mind a whole lot either because they tend to do better in cooke park,we might be debating all this again next week as i can not see games being played again the weekend

[saintsfan]

Why doesnt anybody from Clonmel Town raise this issue!!! There's not much being said about them getting home advantage if Old Bridge's pitch was ok to play on. Bish Bash, (Barry Ryan, whatever you call yourself!!!) Mega Tots, you will drive yourself to distraction with your stupid personalised comments!!! Get real people, weather is weather at the end of the day - some of you on here are making mega assumptions with referees, travel etc, games at this time of year are always getting cancelled for one reason or another - so get on with it!

[Roberto]

Is that true ???

Damn...

Wait, that's all a lie, isn't it.. Yeti can't speak English.. how do you know he did all those things?

On the wider issue however though.. personally, I think it is wrong in any case, that a club should lose home advantage over what is esentially an act of God i.e. the weather. In fact, changing fixtures based on the weather could lead to games being played on dangerous surfaces, just because a team wants to retain home advantage

St Michaels weren't the cause of the freezing temperatures last weekend.. so why should they be disadvantaged by them.. no more than Old Bridge should have been either. The original fixtures should stand


I agree that it is a silly rule but argue for it to be changed then rather than be ignored. There are lots of rules around that I do not particularly like but at the same time know they have to be respected. Seemingly the rule says that if a game cannot take place due to weather conditions the fixture is reversed. Why was this applied in 2 of the 3 games refixed for Sunday week but not the St Michaels/Celtic game?

[Roberto]

Why doesnt anybody from Clonmel Town raise this issue!!! There's not much being said about them getting home advantage if Old Bridge's pitch was ok to play on. Bish Bash, (Barry Ryan, whatever you call yourself!!!) Mega Tots, you will drive yourself to distraction with your stupid personalised comments!!! Get real people, weather is weather at the end of the day - some of you on here are making mega assumptions with referees, travel etc, games at this time of year are always getting cancelled for one reason or another - so get on with it!

We are only asking the question as to why in two cases (Bridge/Town and Moneygall/Ballingarry) the FAI Junior Cup rule about games being postponed due to the weather was applied (i.e. home advantage changes) but seemingly ignored for the Michaels/Celtic. Surely you of all people should know about FAI Junior Cup rules after last year???

[Quietman]

We are only asking the question as to why in two cases (Bridge/Town and Moneygall/Ballingarry) the FAI Junior Cup rule about games being postponed due to the weather was applied (i.e. home advantage changes) but seemingly ignored for the Michaels/Celtic. Surely you of all people should know about FAI Junior Cup rules after last year???

I'd like to actually see this rule. Wasn't it the weather that was the cause of the referee not being able to travel. Therefore, wasn't it the weather that resulted in the game being postponed. Also the league had ample time to find another referee if it wished to do so. As someone stated earlier, Hadnett lives closeby. Therefore isn't it the league who called the game off due to the weather conditions??

[Quietman]

The real reason the game was called off was because a YETI yes BIG FOOT himself had taken up residence just behind the trees in Cooke Park. He established himself a home there and could not be budged. While assembling his home there he unearthed a cache of weapons with I something A written on top he also came across some bones which have been identified as Equine (RUMOUR HAS IT ITS SHERGAR). Also discovered were flight tickets to and from Dallas Texas dating back to the 22nd of November 1963, yes folks the day Kennedy was shot! I KID YOU NOT!
Get a grip people please!

The Armed Yeti is obviously a defensive tactic that St Michaels are using in fear of retribution from Limerick gangs after robbing Pike last year. The equine bones and the JFK shooting??...........Prince Karim and JFK obviously at some stage stood between St Michaels and winning the Fai Junior Cup.............................................Is there nothing that they wouldn't do???

[hooper74]

I'd like to actually see this rule. Wasn't it the weather that was the cause of the referee not being able to travel. Therefore, wasn't it the weather that resulted in the game being postponed. Also the league had ample time to find another referee if it wished to do so. As someone stated earlier, Hadnett lives closeby. Therefore isn't it the league who called the game off due to the weather conditions??

I wonder if the league had a monthly newsletter and just gave a general debrief on meetings and decisions and fixtures etc would all the clubs benefit from this and certainly clubs would feel less like there was some sort of conspiracy

[Quietman]

I wonder if the league had a monthly newsletter and just gave a general debrief on meetings and decisions and fixtures etc would all the clubs benefit from this and certainly clubs would feel less like there was some sort of conspiracy

Communications............something the League knows nothing about. Hence why two games went straight to penos a few weeks back. Because the referees and the teams don't have a copy of the competition rules!!

[the 12 th man]

Lads,keep away from the personal attacks/insinuations if you want to keep posting in this thread.

[Quietman]

what matches were they quietman cos everyone knows in all cups,league,fai,mjc and msc that extra time is to be played then peno's

It happened in two local cup games. Also, the competition rules state how drawn games end and every competition differs...............my point was that everyone should have a copy of the competition rules before the competition starts...............

[bishbash]

No i'm not Barry Ryan i'm a supporter of Clonmel Celtic if you look back through the archives of this forum you'll see that. I'm not surprised that people have come on and make little of the whole situation. Its wrong whats happening its contradictory to the rules that are stated for each and every other club but i guess those rules dont apply to St Michaels as they do for everyone else. Also its pretty childish to assume any user on this forum that has an issue with St Michaels is automatically Barry Ryan.

[Quietman]

surely everyone knows that in all cup matches unless it states it on a match card extra time then peno's we are all part of fai which states in all cups extra time which is for junior 10mins each way in extra time then penos, senior (airtricity league of ireland )15 mina each way then penos all this is in accordance with fiffa rule unless the tdsl commitee are making up their own rules,plus the refs should know this if not serious questions should be asked about them cos all it takes is a phone call before the match kicks off

You're missing the point Rory, Any League can create a new cup competition and in creating the rules for that competition, decide how drawn games in that competition are decided (penos or extra time, replay, etc) as long as they are in accordance with the Fifa directives. As far as I know going straight to penalties is a legitimate way the decide the outcome of a match............My "gripe" is that no one it Tipp seems to have ever seen a copy of the rules governing thes local cups!!

[Quietman]

Communication?? Wassat??

[Roberto]

I think the Information Technology age has passed the TSDL by. They have a very good website although I don't see any reasons why they couldn't have competition rules posted on there.

However it would be a great idea if they spend some of their money on updating their IT skills. Surely it couldn't be that difficult to use email for communications?

[cufc champions]

League cups in waterford all go straight to pens after a draw, this is mainly due to them being midweek games at the end of a season and light being an issue

[West Hammer]

The only non-league games in the TSDL that do not go to extra time after draw are Shield games. These are ran in all but Premier Division. The best thing to do is scrap this straight to pens rule from shield games and all concerned will know all non-league games have extra time after drawn 90 mins. Also Ref at one of the said games was told it had to have extra time but said "I'm the ref and I Know the rules"

[ComeOnTownNow]

Well Bridge should go away and buy their own pitch so, ya are in football long enough

[West Hammer]

to play their if theyre pitch was unavailable ?????

[ponyobrien]

Bridge are the only team in the league that do not own their own pitch, i stand to be corrected on that

And who owns the Complex? ;)

[West Hammer]

And if it was not for Ferryhouse where would Clonmel Town's 2nd team and Schoolboys have played for the last 10 Years!

[ponyobrien]

clonmel town OWN the complex pony

I think you'll find Clonmel Corporation own the Complex. Clonmel Town and Clonmel Athletics Club share a long term lease on it.

[ComeOnTownNow]

im not slaggin ferryhouse! when u have 10 to 15 team through all ages groups they all cant play on the same pitch can they, get real here hammer! your missing the point

[ComeOnTownNow]

Pony i didnt know u could sell land when you are leasing a premises, unfortunately you are uninformed! town have sold two patches of land in the complex, to the Bridge club on the left hand side and also the far side where they have sold that to the Athletic club, the only piece they didnt own was the behind the goal and they bought that recently off the corporation where they are now building a schoolboy pitch.

get your facts right before you say anything here!

[balls]

oldbridge are great club with great history, im sure they would love to have there own pitch but with current economic climate its prob not possible, so there in ferryhouse. ur bit out of order having a pop over that. is oldbridges old pitch in the town completly gone now or whats the story with it? also when you say every team owns there own pitch i doubt that is true alot of country teams in div 3 or 4 are just playing out of farmers fields that they get for free so they dont own them when your a town team like oldbridge you dont really have that option.

[GreenLane08]

Old Bridges pitch in the town , Green Lane, is after been dug up due to the flood relief plan that is been worked on in Clonmel. Old Bridge are very greatful to ferryhouse for the use of the pitch and Clonmel Town should also be greatful cause where would there B and Youth teams play.
The Bridge have tried on many occasions to secure a site in Clonmel for a new pitch and have been promised by the corporation on numerous occasions that they would give Old Bridge a new pitch cause they wanted to dig up Green Lane.
But of course that never happened........why?? Cause Bridge are not a "big" club in Clonmel.
Old Bridge asked for the Poppyfield pitch 3yrs ago and never got it. It was a soccer field and was to be given to a soccer team in the town and now its been used for under age hurling for St.Marys and Commercials......don't they have their own pitch and grounds as it is....disgrace. If the Bridge got this pitch they could have developed the club further and maybe even started some youths or schoolboys like they had 15yrs ago when they had the best schoolboy and under age teams in the town.
The corportation have said they will get Green Lane sorted after the flood relief is done but I am afraid that their will be no Old Bridge Club by the time that happens i think.

[PaConnors23]

Im sorry to hear about the situation with Old Brodge. Its annoying when the "smaller" clubs are ignored like this. The attitude of some people on here slagging Old Bridge is pathetic.