Tipp South & District League 2010/11

[theboywonder8]

That's your opinion skyguy,but I know slot of people who are not pike people who are supporting pike,I believe there are a lot of buses from around the clubs and pubs in limerick who are going down to support pike,

[skyguy19]

That's your opinion skyguy,but I know slot of people who are not pike people who are supporting pike,I believe there are a lot of buses from around the clubs and pubs in limerick who are going down to support pike,

yeah to see them get beat and your right it is my opinion and Im entitled to it

[Damnunited]

all clubs will be behind pike. we all want them to win the fai, so go on pike and bring that fai trophy home to limerick, they will do our league proud and every body should support them,

[nononsense]

Heres hoping this thread returns to TSDL affairs. There is an F.A.I. Junior Cup thread.

[republican]

i dont think saint michaels will lose sleep over clonmel town not wanting them to win the fai and no they are not that naive :)

[Tipp Top]

Lads Clonmel town do not want to see saints win the fai im sure saints are not that naive.

Sure you were naive enough to predict an 8-0 win for Saints??

[theballboy]

Sure you were naive enough to predict an 8-0 win for Saints??

They got the same points for the 1nil

[theboywonder8]

yeah to see them get beat and your right it is my opinion and Im entitled to it

I think it's jealous guy should be you're user name not skyguy,I'll let ye have yere forum back now lads.

[Redman028]

They got the same points for the 1nil

They didnt ... They lost 1-0 They got no points! Also there are quiet a few from Clonmel Town that would like to see Saints win the F.A.I. They are one of the best teams in the country at the moment and if they do win it, I for one will be happy for them.They deserve it after losing out on a shoot out last year. Best of luck to them.

[nononsense]

They didnt ... They lost 1-0 They got no points! And there are quiet a few from Clonmel Town that would like to see Saints win the F.A.I. They are one of the best teams in the country at the moment and if the do win it, I for one will be happy for them.They deserve it after losing out on a shoot out last year. Best of luck to them.

Well said. The real sincere people of St.Michaels and Clonmel Town are genuine friends. Indeed that is the feeling among all genuine people of all clubs within the TSDL. I met some of my best friends through the TSDL, real good guys who do a lot of voluntary work for their club. On match day we are on opposite sides but our interest and dedication is the same. Having said that, there is always a small core of people who, through their horrible personality, dislike other clubs. There are people in Tipperary Town who will hope St.Michaels are beaten. There are people in Limerick who will hope Pike Rovers will be beaten etc etc. These are bitter people one will find in all aspects of life.

[theboywonder8]

Well said,being from limerick I hope pike rovers win,tha same as I hoped fairview won last year.

[SgtBilko]

one negative thing i must comment on about st michaels on wednesday night was did anyone know the reason why they turned off the flood lights when Town were recieving the trophy, it seemed a bit odd, also supposedly Town had to wait a number of minutes for the lights to be turned on in their dressing room, sour grapes anyone??? anyone have any thoughts?

[nononsense]

one negative thing i must comment on about st michaels on wednesday night was did anyone know the reason why they turned off the flood lights when Town were recieving the trophy, it seemed a bit odd, also supposedly Town had to wait a number of minutes for the lights to be turned on in their dressing room, sour grapes anyone??? anyone have any thoughts?

Interesting you should mention that. I asked why were the lights turned off and it appears Saints were caught unawares. Trophies are always presented outside the dressing rooms. The floodlights were turned off and lights in all-weather left on for the presentation. However, suddenly, TSDL decided to present the trophy in the middle of the field, (first time it ever happened at Cooke Park). It was impossible to turn the lights back on - they take some time to boost up. Wasn't aware of no lights in dressing room - when I was passing after the presentation the lights were on in both dressing rooms. Was talking to quite a few Clonmel Town and St.Michaels mentors and players after the game and heard no complaints.

[theboywonder8]

Very bad form if it was done on purpose,

[stelling]

[QUOTE=theboywonder8;1485532]Very bad form if it was done on purpose,[/QUOTE

What way were the Saints players after the game? Not surprised with that craic with the lights,the carry on of "a few" at half time abusing and threatening 2 Town players right beside where a few of us were watching was crazy,grown men as well not young fellows,but to be fair i saw Chalkie go around to every Town player and shake hands

[Mission Bell]

After last year's Munster Junior Cup Final there was nobody from the losing camp present at the trophy and medal presentation. They remained in their dressing room for the duration.
So for those from Clonmel who have had their feelings hurt , it might be time to reflect.
The old saying"what goes around, comes around" may come to mind !!

[Honestman]

If memory serves me correct Town failed to stay on pitch last year when Villa where presented with cup.... I am open for correction on this.

[theballboy]

After last year's Munster Junior Cup Final there was nobody from the losing camp present at the trophy and medal presentation. They remained in their dressing room for the duration.
So for those from Clonmel who have had their feelings hurt , it might be time to reflect.
The old saying"what goes around, comes around" may come to mind !!

poor form

[footballfanatic]

Any craic at the awards last night lads?, i heard the prem winner and first division. A bit shocked noelie bourke didnt get it, thank feck they didnt have bettin on it cause i would have puttin the house on him!! :)
well done to chris higgins anyway, fully deserved in my oppinion. Congrats to michael ivors of ballingarry on his division 1 award.

[balls]

alan hayes from cullen lattin won division 3, caolin o gorman saints youth team won tsdl youth division 1 award. not sure of who won club person of the year or the division 4 players award. were there any games played in tsdl today. congrats to celtic youths as well on winning tipperary youths cup final. cant ever remember a 2nd division youths team winning the tipp cup before so its a great achievement

[nononsense]

Wildeerness beat St.Michaels 4-3 to-day. Heard St.Michaels had mixture of youth and 'B' team players. Moyglass beaten so St.Nicholas finish runners-up in First Division. From recent results obvious neither St.Nicholas or Moyglass wanted to go up to Premier Division. St.Nicholas were quite happy to stay in the First Division and now face the nightmare of what happened three seasons ago when one more walkover would have seen them out of football. Their panel is too small, they haven't the players and fear becoming the annual whipping boys of the Premier Division.

[footballfanatic]

I really dont understand why they cant sign a few players. They have a decent squad now and if they could get a few more heads they could be a good premier division team. Shur they are just outside tipp town. Why cant they get players from there. Every rural club could use that excuse if it was the case.
If they dont want to go up, maybe they should be given a choice of getting relagated from division 1 instead.

[nononsense]

I really dont understand why they cant sign a few players. They have a decent squad now and if they could get a few more heads they could be a good premier division team. Shur they are just outside tipp town. Why cant they get players from there. Every rural club could use that excuse if it was the case.
If they dont want to go up, maybe they should be given a choice of getting relagated from division 1 instead.

St.Nicholas are a typical local team and they want to stay that way. Sure they could sign players from Tipp Town etc but they prefer to keep it local and I admire them for that. Signing players from outside means local players have no football or have to move elsewhere - that is not the policy of the club. Local parishioners have dug deep in their pockets to pay for the excellent facilities so they want to ensure local players, schoolboys, youths and juniors, are first priority and catered for. I am not attached to the club so my views are personal but I know from talking to them they know they are out of their depth in the Premier Division. Their panel of players is small and in the current climate will get worse so lets applaud them for trying to stay local.

[footballfanatic]

Fair enough.

[ponyobrien]

Any team who doesn't want to get promoted has no business in the league.

[Honestman]

By playing at a higher level surely all the St Nicholas players involved will become better players. Belief in your own ability is crucial if you are to compete, by the way Nononsense is talking they have already excepted their fate without a ball been kicked. Maybe they should consider getting a proven manager into their set up to help develope their players, who by virtue of the fact that they have competed with Borris strongly throughout the season have proven their ability.

[addict]

That is a very simplistic view that you have pony. St. Nicholas, like every other team like to get promoted. But when you get promoted to the very top tier for a club like St. Nicholas there is little or no chance of silverware. The next year is all about trying to survive in the premier and if they are lucky they will finish 3rd or 4th from bottom. There is a lot to be said about competing for cups that you can realistically win during the year, it gives the club a chance to lift the parish when competing in finals and semi-finals and with no shield or paddy purtil cups to play for next year there will be nothing to shout about. I'm sure they will enjoy playing against the best teams but its all about winning things at the end of the day and that can't happen next season.

[SgtBilko]

pony you are well out of order with that remark, agree totally with the addict

[Preds]

I would like to compliment the refs on their awards night in Clonmel last Saturday night. It was very well run and no expense had been spared with the awards. I know we give them a lot of stick from time to time but without them we would have no football to watch or talk about, Hats off to ye on this occasion.

Well done to all the people who made a great turn out on the night and represented their clubs well. Good to see Cahir Park getting a special award for their centenary year. Hopefully they can kick on from this year as they have one of the best set ups in the country. One sad note for me was the disrespect Peake Villa showed to the night. Their youth’s player was up for Div 2 player of the year, He nor the club seen it fit to represent the club in any aspect.

Best wishes To Saints this weekend ye are a great club and represent Tipp well.

[Mega Tots]

Preds believe me you do not know the half of it,to be honest there is nobody from the club i would even want down there,in the next 2-3 years Peake Villa will just be a schoolboy club and wont have a junior side,the club are trying to build the profile of the schoolboys and youths,the junior side is a lost cause,there was a time when we won back to back Munster Youths cups and beat Town and Saints 8-0 on a regular basis at youth level,amazing to be in division 2 now of the youths less than a decade after contesting 2 Fai youth cup finals

[balls]

in fairness preds the clonmel park hotel is a savage place to have the awards , it gives the whole event a far more professional feel. did not atend this year but delighted to hear it went well. Chris higgins well deserved winner of premier award aswell top class player. as for the peake no show its dissapointing alright think it happened last year as well with a division 4 award a no show again from peake player but a commitee member picked it up from the club. the lad could have had a legitimate reason for not making it so its harsh of us to slate him or the club online here without knowing the full facts. things are hardly that bad megatots that you reckon peake wont have a junior team in a few years. they have two teams at the moment and both teams are mid table in there leagues and they finished out seasons so they should have no problem getting out 1 team in future if it comes to it. fair enough the quality and commitment may have dropped of there 1st team but every club is suffering that the past few years if ur not winning lads lose interest very easy. start missing training , drinking night before games etc thats just the way the modern young lads are now all clubs suffering that problem. . look at clonmel town even all the players that sulked and packed it in playing with them this year for example, with facilities town have players should be giving there left arm to play with them but they dont seem to give a dam. i heard even michaels were getting very small numbers training few months back so what hope do rest have(doubt its the case now with saints though at business end of season). Peake still have decent team and no reason with few signings in my opinion why they cant challenge again next season, this season was always gonna be stop start for them after losing few players and going out of cups early after xmas there games were very spaced out so fair play to them for sticking at it and i wish them best of luck peake always were decent bunch anytime i came up against them.

as for premier next year nicholas getting alot of discussion on here, lads saying they wont sign outside players they have had loads of tipp town lads play with them over past few seasons so they dont just limit themselves to local players. im sure if players from anywhere presented themselves to the club they would sign them not a bother as would any club. they have great chance of staying up next year if they give it a shout if cahir go division 1 next year ur looking at 8 team premier.

if i were nicholas manager then right off there 6 games against town,saints and celtic not much of a chance of beating them. try get full team out then versus wildies,cashel,peake and borris. none of these teams are world beaters so no reason why they shouldnt pick up a few wins. hope they give it a good shot anyway cause they have some very good players

[nononsense]

Addicts post above sums up exactly my views on St.Nicholas - very well said. SgtBilko is also correct - horrible comment from Pony O'Brien. Balls, as always, an excellent post. Just to clarify, the present St.Nicholas team has no Tipp Town players - a rural team, managed by a local manager and local committee. Realistically, St.Nicholas appear to be destined for the Premier League and so be it. Lets hope their season isn't over by mid September. Meeting St.Michaels, Clonmel Town and Clonmel Celtic in midweek in August would not be pleasant. Roll on 2012/2013, Paddy Purtill Cup, Shield (hopefully 3rd time lucky).

[hooper74]

is Eamonn O Dwyer not a player from Tipp town nononsense??

[addict]

Eamonn O Dwyer signed for the club in the middle of Janurary. St. Nicholas don't activally seek players but if anyone from the area was interested in signing then they would be happy to sign them but as nononsense says they will keep the main part of the team local.

[SgtBilko]

i dont think there is anything wrong with st nicholas and their preference to play in the 1st division, there is nothin worse than for a team to be gettin bet by cricket scores week in week out, fellas lose interest and the club suffers, most of the lads there are out there for the love of the village area and to play a bit of football but thats where it ends, same way goes for galbally and bridge were the same boat, going up and down from the premier to the first, thats life and that football.

[ponyobrien]

pony you are well out of order with that remark, agree totally with the addict

No I'm not. So you think it's ok for a team to take points off other clubs at the start of season, and then deliberately lose games to avoid promotion later on, ruining the league for clubs who wish to be competitive. Thats a terrible attitude to have.

[Roberto]

Addicts post above sums up exactly my views on St.Nicholas - very well said. SgtBilko is also correct - horrible comment from Pony O'Brien. Balls, as always, an excellent post. Just to clarify, the present St.Nicholas team has no Tipp Town players - a rural team, managed by a local manager and local committee. Realistically, St.Nicholas appear to be destined for the Premier League and so be it. Lets hope their season isn't over by mid September. Meeting St.Michaels, Clonmel Town and Clonmel Celtic in midweek in August would not be pleasant. Roll on 2012/2013, Paddy Purtill Cup, Shield (hopefully 3rd time lucky).

'horrible comment'!!!! less of the drama please. And Pony is dead right. To avoid promotion the suggestion is a team deliberatly loses games or doesn't make the effort to win. That is wrong and should be condemned and has no place in sport. To follow the logic of some posts on this matter the Premiership in England should only have 3 to 4 teams as no other team starts the season with realistic aims of winning it. Every team in Tipperary should be striving to play at the highest level and finishing 7th in the Premier is a bigger achivement that winning the 1st Division. Any club who deliberately avoids promotion because of fears that they will be out of the depth have no business in league and maybe should play Sunday pub soccer instead. Let Wilderness Rovers be an example of what a promoted team can achieve.

[theboywonder8]

There can't be that much of a difference in 1A and premier is there?barring the two big ones,St michaels and clonmel town.

[Town Fan]

Michaels, Town and Celtic can match with anybody. Peake Villa always seem to shoot themselves in the foot. Cashel have done well under Kenny Condon and are going in the right direction. as Roberto said Wilderness were excellent this year. I think Pony is correct- if teams dont want to get promoted- then they have no place in the league, getting in the way of teams who do

[Honestman]

last 6 seasons winners and runners up.....05/06 Town / Michaels 06/07 Town / Michaels 07/08 Town / Michaels 08/09 Town / Villa 09/10 Villa / Town 10/11 Town / Michaels.... based on these facts Villa are the only team that have broken the hold of the big 2.... I believe that Celtic have hugh potential but need to be at the business end of the league, the facts above show they flatter to decieve, but are a great cup team.

[Roberto]

last 6 seasons winners and runners up.....05/06 Town / Michaels 06/07 Town / Michaels 07/08 Town / Michaels 08/09 Town / Villa 09/10 Villa / Town 10/11 Town / Michaels.... based on these facts Villa are the only team that have broken the hold of the big 2.... I believe that Celtic have hugh potential but need to be at the business end of the league, the facts above show they flatter to decieve, but are a great cup team.

Slight correction, Celtic were runners up to Villa in 09/10 and not Town.

[Chops]

I have to agree with ya Pony why bother entering teams into a league if you are not willing to go to the premier league it was always the wilderness objective to get to premier league and when they did havnt they done an excellent job there.people on here were saying that st.nicholas didnt want to go up if they didnt win the 1st division so can someone tell me what would the difference have been if they went up as champions or runners up they would still have to play in the premier league.If there not happy why not go back to the 4th division.It is also why im in favour of B teams been allowed up to the premier league.

[nononsense]

Take a look at the nine clubs which started in the 1st division this season. I can assure you FIVE of them had no interest in going into the Premier league and a sixth, a 'B' team couldn't. I may not agree with it, I may not like it, but that is a fact.

[Honestman]

I stand corrected Roberto

[Roberto]

Take a look at the nine clubs which started in the 1st division this season. I can assure you FIVE of them had no interest in going into the Premier league and a sixth, a 'B' team couldn't. I may not agree with it, I may not like it, but that is a fact.

Don't know how you can make such a sweeping statement. A few months back people were posting here about how close and exciting the first division was and now you're suggesting that up to 5 teams were playing games that they may not have been interested in winning.

[the wombat]

fact it borris are the only team with genuine ambition to do anything in the premier

[the wombat]

if the saints go on to lift the big one would it be fair to say that the tsdl is the best league in the country. beaten finalists in fai last year and in the munster final. this year we have munster champions and fai finalists . and saying that they still cannot get their hands on the league title. it says a lot in my opinion. some top class players and teams around, understandable that 1st division teams struggle, could you see st nicks or galbally doing the business in the aul premier for example?

[nononsense]

Don't know how you can make such a sweeping statement. A few months back people were posting here about how close and exciting the first division was and now you're suggesting that up to 5 teams were playing games that they may not have been interested in winning.

I know that because I attended a first division game almost every week and spoke to most of the clubs' mentors. It is not a sweeping statement. It is a known fact.

[stelling]

fact it borris are the only team with genuine ambition to do anything in the premier

What exactly are Borris going to do?? if they finish 3rd last and stay up it will be a success for them

[the wombat]

What exactly are Borris going to do?? if they finish 3rd last and stay up it will be a success for them

maybe it will be but at least they will try. believe me their manager has no intention of making up the numbers and i expect quite a few new faces out there for pre season