Tipp South & District League 2010/11

[hooper74]

Does anyone have any clarification yet on how many teams are going to be relegated from premier league and how many will go up from the first division?

[footballfanatic]

I am always going to be bias to the thurles lads but what exactly was Barry going to do in 10 minutes,Ted should have started up front,mcgrath is average at best,he waited way to long to make changes,i actually think Villa will surprise Town in the Tipp Cup
yes, and if peake did knock clonmel out, this would mean perhaps no cups for clonmel with michaels lookin like the league winners.
And with peake winning the league last year, this is a little bit of a drought for clonmel when you think of all they had in the previous year before.
Clonmel town in decline i ask???

hooper, i would luike to know the same thing. I presume 2up and 1 down would make the most sence.

[nononsense]

Does anyone have any clarification yet on how many teams are going to be relegated from premier league and how many will go up from the first division?

I asked the same question and the answer is the TSDL committee elected for 2011/2012 decide that. Decision will probably be made at the first committee meeting in June.

[nononsense]

Good post as usual from Balls, to the point without personal attack. I disagree with some of what is said but we will agree to differ. On the Oscar Traynor game against Wexford, I'm told it is put back to Wednesday 23rd March. Good news on the junior international call-ups - Clonmel Town's Ritchie Ryan and Ian Barnes plus St.Michaels Chris Higgins called to Dublin on March 26th. Ritchie Ryan and Chris Higgins were certainties after good games in Tipp trial. Delighted for Ian Barnes who wasn't selected for Tipp trial but impressed so much with TSDL team manager Mick O'Brien added him for Dublin final trial. Hard luck on Jimmy Carr who misses out. He can take heart as he is young and time is on his side. Best of luck to Clonmel Town and St.Michaels - both have tough games but they can do the TSDL proud with two wins.
Ian Barnes will not be eligible for the game in Dublin on March 26th. It is a trial for the Amateur international team, not the Junior international side. Anybody who played professionally AT ANY TIME is ineligible for the amateur team, but eligible for the junior side. As Ian played professionally for Kilkenny City some years ago he is therefore ineligible.

[Town Fan]

Clonmel Town line up ; Ryan, Quinlivan, Shanahan, Condon, O'Connor, Scully, Loughnane, Comerford, McGrath, Cleary, Maguire. Sub used Barry Ryan for Loughnane. Goal came around the half hour mark. Town dominated the second half but Athenry defence always in control. Both sides hit the woodwork in the second-half. Athenry were the better side, very well organised and disciplined.

I dont think were as bad as people are making them out to be. I thought second half they were the better side, and I felt if they got it to 1-1 they would have gone on to win the game. It was a very soft goal to give away. Athenry were very good at the back and any team will find them hard to break down. Carrick lost to a poor side on Sunday, Michaels will make bits of North End in q/final.

For Town they must stick with Jamie. He is a good manager and given time he will get things right. Despite all the negative stuff coming from supporters and on the radio, Town have a bright future. We may just have to go a couple of seasons where will just have to rebuild and be patient.

[irisheagle]

Ye Michaels should beat North End, but Carrick expected to beat them also and I think that was half their problem. Expecting to beat someone means you are not focused. I guess the surprise element of North End is now gone and the wide player that caused Carrick so much trouble in the opening half was sent off so he will be in the stand next day. Also think a stronger ref will not allow North End get away with some of the tackles that went in against Carrick and likewise they will hardly get another gift pen.

[footballfanatic]

Busy period coming up for many teams this weeks coming, both clonmel town and michaels should be expecting wins. then theres midweek games in cup and then followed by more games sunday. Clonmel and peake is one im really looking forward to.

Also, this john giles walk going on, will this be a free gameweek throughout tsdl or will games go ahead as normal.

[West Hammer]

There will be no games played in Ireland on Sunday March 27th the day of the John Giles Walk. This has already been agreed by all league fixture secretarys.

[footballfanatic]

Sunday the 27th ya mean westhammer, hey twill be a good weekend for the beer so :D

[Tipp Top]

Clonmel Town 2 Cashel 1.....a great game to watch,a very game performance from Cashel who were very unlucky not to take a point at the very least,David Slattery and Micky Coleman were excellent and caused Town plenty of problems and James Mulligans free kick was a cracker,for the neutrals it very much keeps the title race alive,i hope the injury to the Town centre half is not too serious,seemed to twist awkwardly in the turf,hopefully just a twist and no serious ligament damage or anything

[balls]

saints unbeaten run continues easy 7-0 win over galbally, could have easily been double figures but for poor finishing.

[Chops]

Wasnt ligament damage was his hamstring looks like he really has done it bad tho

[nononsense]

saints unbeaten run continues easy 7-0 win over galbally, could have easily been double figures but for poor finishing.

This result really disappoints me and once again forces the point the TSDL should maintain the premier division at eight teams i.e. one up, one down at the end of this season. This is totally demoralising for Galbally. Wasn't at the game but heard St.Michaels rested five players and could have doubled the tally. Galbally are repeating what happened St.Nicholas and Rosegreen in recent years - they almost went out of football when promoted. Fact is there isn't nine teams good enough for premier. Its all about enjoyment - getting a 7-0 hiding at home is not enjoyment for Galbally and St.Michaels can hardly get much pleasure out of it either.

[footballfanatic]

But if they are going to do one up one down, i think it has to be made known soon and not deceided till the leagues over. Both Borris and st nicholas can win division 1, but i think it would be unfair if the team in second is eventually told they are not going up. Maybe in the next few years but i would say bring up 2 teams and 1 down. I reckon Borris and st nicholas would be able to fight well in the premier league next year. And both with super facilities.
Btw, Borris won yesterday with st nicholas in cup action, st nicholas are now one point ahead but with a game more played.

[republican]

in any league you have teams that are on the receiving end of big defeat's and particularly as galbally have been resigned to relegation for most of the season and have only played 1 or 2 games in the last month v a team in the last 8 of both fai and munster junior cup's and going for their first prem lge in a few year's there was only going to be 1 outcome here im afraid. galbally beat st mich's in cooke park a few year's back and had this game been at start of season where circumstances were different u can rest assured it would have been alot closer on the scoreboard imo.

[balls]

nononsense saints started with derek breen, paul tobin, chris higgins, paul breen, jimmy carr, richie ryan,thomas fahey, shane guerin pa quinn and john connery. chalkie was injured only two others who prob would have started were foggy and trevor cosgrave who were subs. so dunno where you are going with resting 5 players. saints clicked on the day and played well. galbally have lost 5 of there starting team from last season and at least 2 0r 3 squad players. so this season was always gonna be a struggle with a squad of 14 players. The score was 3-0 after 70 minutes and considering galbally only had 11 players on the day 2 of whom played with vomiting bug and no sub i dont think this result is as demoralising as u say to an already relegated side who were just fufilling a fixture.
Fair enough the game is about enjoyment but one 7-0 beating of a team who are undefeated in all competitions is not gonna totally demoralise a team who knew they were severly understrength on the day and up against it. in every league in the world there will be a result like this at some stage in the season, so i cant see how this dissappoints you so much. i think this was the 1st occasion in tsdl premier division this season that a team conceeded more than 5 goals so its not as if it has been a regular thing

[balls]

just to back up republicans point when saints played galbally at start of this season in cooke park game finished 4-2 .

[nononsense]

I appreciate all the points above and all made well. However, I will stand over my view the premier league should be kept to eight teams. Fair play to Galbally for fielding a team but look at what happened to Rosegreen and St.Nicholas when in premier, both gave two walkovers each, just avoiding going out of football. St.Nicholas are having an excellent season (as Galbally did last season) but quite a few within the club are not keen on premier football next season should they finish 1st or 2nd (once bitten etc etc). Galbally are looking forward to going back to the first division next season.

[SgtBilko]

what is the story with the league now? it will probably go down to the final day game of the season with town and st michaels?? who is home in this fixture?

[Chops]

The 2nd Division is coming to an end and theres a possibility of a 4 way playoff depending on results,Clonmel Town B and Cashel Town B should be an interesting game with Clonmel Town just needing a point to win the league and Cashel needing a win to force a playoff could be well worth a watch.Glengoole and killenaule also are still well in the hunt for a playoff as well could be a very exciting sunday in that division.

[republican]

what about wilderness rover's they didnt even win the 1st div last season and still stayed up comfortably the difference being they realised they would have to strenghten their panel if they were serious about stayin up, its too easy to just say 'ah wer not good enough for this lge' wilderness have just proved that if you have a plan it can be done.

[footballfanatic]

what is the story with the league now? it will probably go down to the final day game of the season with town and st michaels?? who is home in this fixture?
Michaels will be home in this fixture. Michaels won the first fixture 2nil in clonmel. Should be an exciting game when ever it is on.

[West Hammer]

If you want to keep it as an 8 team Premier league why not just 2 up and 2 down, If a team finishes in the bottom 2 then they should expect to go down! The only way this can change is if the League want to make the Premier 9 teams again then it will be 2 up and 1 down. The 4th Division is to big and they may bring 3 up to help balance out some of the other leagues.

[balls]

there could be a good bit of restructuring next season. 4th division has bit of history of losing a few teams so there might not be ten teams left in that by next season. also rumours doing the rounds kilmanahan are folding up at the end of this season. plus i know of 1 other club who may be going down a similar road at end of year but dont wanna mention it on here yet

[nononsense]

there could be a good bit of restructuring next season. 4th division has bit of history of losing a few teams so there might not be ten teams left in that by next season. also rumours doing the rounds kilmanahan are folding up at the end of this season. plus i know of 1 other club who may be going down a similar road at end of year but dont wanna mention it on here yet

Balls, we must move in the same circles, I have heard rumours also. Some clubs struggling in 4th division. Mullinahone already gone and Moyglass B gave a walkover last week. Also Ballyneale at the end of many hidings this season although fair play to them they plug away. I know of one prominent team devastated due to emigration so, as you say, quite a bit of restructuring may be necessary. The TSDL committee of next season can do nothing until the applications come in July so it is correct no decisions are made until then. Could be a few notable absentees.

[West Hammer]

Rural clubs are suffering big time with many young lads leaving to find work. This summer will be hard on these clubs trying to put teams together. A lot of teams are already working with squads of only 14 or 15, a few suspensions or injury's and they struggle to field a team.

[Town Fan]

Good posts above re Clonmel Town shock defeat - what a pity no game now between Town and Carrick. Back to the coverage on the two radio stations, could I just say I don't know nor never met any of the presenters. Have heard of Muiris Walsh and thought he was still PRO with Clonmel Town. His knowledge of TSDL is limited e.g. he had vague report on inter league youths game against Galway etc. As one poster pointed out the programme gives little time to local soccer, usually about 10 minutes at the end. Really it is a sham. The other radio station, Tipp Mid-west is worse, totally amateur, no standards whatsoever. If they are not prepared to give local soccer North and South its due coverage better they forget about it altogether.


Anyone here Tipp FM last night- what a joke. They had the usual 5 minutes at the end for Soccer. If that’s not bad enough, they were auctioning a jersey again fair enough but Ronan Quirke kept interupting Muiris Walsh to give out the phone and text numbers and saying that the bid was getting higher. Walsh could not get into a flow and subsequently there was in truth, no soccer coverage. It was a disgrace and poor from Tipp FM. I have been criticised for having a go at Muiris and I believe I am correct but last night he and the TSDL league were treated very poorly. Its abd enough that it is squeezed in at the end but last night they insulted everyone connected to soccer

[Mission Bell]

I think you are not too badly served in Tipp re. coverage locally.
In Waterford there is NO discussion on local radio. Now whether this is because Carrick Utd. have been the dominant force , I dont know. Suffice to say that games from other codes take up all the time which, to say the least, is an insult to all those involved in our game, schoolboys included.
If anyone from WLR is reading these pages, please take note.

[balls]

FAI Oscar Traynor Trophy Q/Final

TSDL vesus Wexford

The above game is scheduled for Thursday March 24th at 8pm.
The following squad are requested to meet in Cooke Park at 6pm where light pre match refreshments will be available.

Clonmel Town: John Shanahan, Richard Ryan, Ian Barnes, David McGrath, Tony Scully

Cashel Town : Colin Bargary

Wilderness Rovers: Sean O Hara

Peake Villa: Alan Leahy

St. Michael's: Derek Breen, Chris Higgins, James Walsh, Paul Breen, Thomas Fahy, Jimmy Carr, Paraic Fogarty, Ritchie Ryan Shane Guerin

Clonmel Celtic: Andrew Cosgrave

very strong squad selected, paul tobin and mikey comerford only 2 players missing who i think would improve squad. my eleven would be
1 r ryan (gk)
2 c higgins (rb)
3 I barnes (lb)
4 p breen (cb)
5 j walsh (cb)
6 j carr (rm)
7 J shanahan (cm)
8 c bargary (cm)
9 t scully (cf)
10 R Ryan (cf)
11 P Fogarty (lm)
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12 s o hara
13 a leahy
14 t fahey

[irisheagle]

Two Tipperary based teams in the Munster Jnr Cup Quarter finals next Sunday not a word re this on Monday night's show.

[nononsense]

Anyone here Tipp FM last night- what a joke. They had the usual 5 minutes at the end for Soccer. If that’s not bad enough, they were auctioning a jersey again fair enough but Ronan Quirke kept interupting Muiris Walsh to give out the phone and text numbers and saying that the bid was getting higher. Walsh could not get into a flow and subsequently there was in truth, no soccer coverage. It was a disgrace and poor from Tipp FM. I have been criticised for having a go at Muiris and I believe I am correct but last night he and the TSDL league were treated very poorly. Its abd enough that it is squeezed in at the end but last night they insulted everyone connected to soccer

Absolutely correct. It was an insult to Tipperary soccer. Not a mention of (1) North Tipp soccer(2) Carrick win in Munster Senior Cup (3) thrilling 4th division shield final
(4) upcoming Munster Junior Cup quarter-finals (5) Ritchie Ryan and Chris Higgins on Amateur international panel. Of course it is not an official TSDL or NDL programme so Tipp FM can do/say what they like but Monday night was a total disgrace.

[nononsense]

Tipperary Cup result; St.Michaels 4, St.Nicholas 0. Wasn't there but heard it was scoreless at half-time, St.Nicholas did well but ran out of steam in second-half.

[rushy12]

Maybe the reason no one talks about the league is it is a poor league..rubbish even. top 2 hammering teams, teams who are struggling to get a panel together for a game..too much football on tv..not many going or interested in junior matches and particularly watching teams being beatin 4,5,6 or 7 nil..1st division probably most exciting at times..better games..more even teams...saints will continue to dominate the league and cup competitions with their structure..only challenge they have is pike or fairview who have the same structures, all this said clubs will struggle financially because not many going into watch these games. they might win things but are struggling.

[West Hammer]

It's not just Soccer that people are not going to watch all codes GAA and Rugby will tell you crowds have gone down a lot over the last 2 years. People are just not willing or able to pay to watch amateur sport anymore, only so much money to spend and amateur sport seems to be low on most people's lists.

[Mission Bell]

Maybe the reason no one talks about the league is it is a poor league..rubbish even. top 2 hammering teams, teams who are struggling to get a panel together for a game..too much football on tv..not many going or interested in junior matches and particularly watching teams being beatin 4,5,6 or 7 nil..1st division probably most exciting at times..better games..more even teams...saints will continue to dominate the league and cup competitions with their structure..only challenge they have is pike or fairview who have the same structures, all this said clubs will struggle financially because not many going into watch these games. they might win things but are struggling.

Junior football will always have clubs who will win more than others , its the nature of football from the top down. But at junior level it is much more than just about winning. The purpose of the local club is to provide football, primarily for those who want to play the game.

[balls]

saints havent won the league in 7 or 8 years rushy do abit of research before you comment, peake and celtic were in title run in last year with peake winning the league. Tsdl premier league is competitive bar one team who are having a terrible season this year at the bottom. asides from that your comments could just be about junior football nationwide with every league in the country has teams strugling to fill panels and leagues with 1 or 2 teams dominating. there is plenty interest in tsdl its just its a participant sport not a spectator sport unfortunatly, junior soccer bar the odd club here and there will always have low levels of actual sport at the games but plenty take an interest in results etc. Im sure there are plenty players in lower divisions who would actually like to watch saint michaels or clonmel town on a sunday but because all junior games are down for a sunday they are tied up with there own clubs. Unlike say in gaa where the games are scattered out over the week which allows people to get in as many games as they want within there own club and neighbouring clubs.

Saint michaels will get massive support from all local clubs around them if they get a big team at home from now in mjc or fai as the league starts to wind down for other clubs who may not be playing every sunday

[nononsense]

You are right Balls. Just to note also, St.Michaels had their second biggest crowd of the season last night versus St.Nicholas. Despite all their home cup games on Sundays this season, their biggest was on a Sunday night last September under lights, a league game against Clonmel Celtic. The moral of the story is St.Michaels should play all their games under lights. Sundays have too much competition from live games on TV.

[Mega Tots]

Looking forward to the Town/Villa game sunday,last year we had the famous goal and abandoned game,there is always drama and i think Villa have a couple of young players that have progressed this season that might come into this under the radar,might be a lot closer than people think,i am going to go for Villa to win it 2-1

[balls]

has to be town win, ill go 3-1. villa s season sice xmas has been too stop start. town are playing week in week out and should be too sharp for peake. Saints have tricky won away to abbeyfeale, they will be favourates to advance but i can see this one being close ill go 2-1 to the saints

[footballfanatic]

Clonmel town beat peake villa 5nil today i heard, a fare bating but i suppose it was to be expected.

Borris had a big win today in division1, beating moyglass 2-1.

[Mega Tots]

[QUOTE=footballfanatic;1466453]Clonmel town beat peake villa 5nil today i heard, a fare bating but i suppose it was to be expected.

Could have been far worse,was never even a contest,Town never had to break sweat

[Thunderblaster]

Does Rock Rovers play on the same pitch with the horses on it??

[West Hammer]

Rock Rovers Folded before the start of the season!

[Redman028]

Does Rock Rovers play on the same pitch with the horses on it??

Yep they used to .... They folded last August just before season Started

[Harry Lime]

Some shots from St Michael's trip to Abbeyfeale yesterday -
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5054/5543671822_1f97476829.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/seanryan/sets/72157626183318737/)

[Chops]

Clonmel Town B crowned division 2 champions well done

[nononsense]

FAI Oscar Traynor Trophy Q/Final

TSDL vesus Wexford

The above game is scheduled for Thursday March 24th at 8pm.
The following squad are requested to meet in Cooke Park at 6pm where light pre match refreshments will be available.

Clonmel Town: John Shanahan, Richard Ryan, Ian Barnes, David McGrath, Tony Scully

Cashel Town : Colin Bargary

Wilderness Rovers: Sean O Hara

Peake Villa: Alan Leahy

St. Michael's: Derek Breen, Chris Higgins, James Walsh, Paul Breen, Thomas Fahy, Jimmy Carr, Paraic Fogarty, Ritchie Ryan Shane Guerin

Clonmel Celtic: Andrew Cosgrave

very strong squad selected, paul tobin and mikey comerford only 2 players missing who i think would improve squad. my eleven would be
1 r ryan (gk)
2 c higgins (rb)
3 I barnes (lb)
4 p breen (cb)
5 j walsh (cb)
6 j carr (rm)
7 J shanahan (cm)
8 c bargary (cm)
9 t scully (cf)
10 R Ryan (cf)
11 P Fogarty (lm)
---------------------------------------------
12 s o hara
13 a leahy
14 t fahey

Good team selection there, very strong. Might make two changes. I would have Ritchie Ryan in attacking midfield and put David McGrath up front instead of Padraic Fogarty. Wonder would Cosgrave be better than Bargary in midfield? Wonderful to see such commitment from the TSDL team this season - much of the credit for this must go to manager Mick O'Brien who has instilled new pride in the squad. The TSDL are really up against it as Wexford demolished Clare in last years final but with a repeat of the display against Cork A.U.L they can do it. Its a game that deserves support. Kick off is 8pm at Cooke Park Tipperary Town.

[Tipp Top]

After all the complaints about lack of air time on Tipp Fm and promotion of the TSDL i decided to tune in last night and listen. The guy speaking on behalf of the TSDL was a shambles, a terrible public speaker muddling his words and with nothing of any interest to say, surely there is a need for someone to promote the league when given the opportunity, at least when Muiris Walsh speaks he speaks with passion and a genuine love of the league and soccer in Tipperary, Tommy Lewis the head of the league was in studio yet didnt say a word, what a leader he is, well done Tommy

[SgtBilko]

when are the tipp cup games to be played?? looks like a michaels town final from what i heard last night of the draw.

[Town Fan]

After all the complaints about lack of air time on Tipp Fm and promotion of the TSDL i decided to tune in last night and listen. The guy speaking on behalf of the TSDL was a shambles, a terrible public speaker muddling his words and with nothing of any interest to say, surely there is a need for someone to promote the league when given the opportunity, at least when Muiris Walsh speaks he speaks with passion and a genuine love of the league and soccer in Tipperary, Tommy Lewis the head of the league was in studio yet didnt say a word, what a leader he is, well done Tommy

Yes I heard the show. The TSDL wouldn't be known for their communication skills. Although I cant stand the man, Walsh to be honest is very good on all sports but shouldn't be talking about football.Once again he gave no credit to Town on their fine win against Peake in the Tipperary Cup. Plus eventhough Carrick only won 2-1 in Cork, he still when asked wouldnt revise his view on Town's performance. Then he gives a resounding thumbs up to Michael's and only has great things to say about them. Please dont tell me he is neutral. He dislikes Town and cant hide it. Yes he attends matches but I know from talking to people within the club, that he is very, very bitter towards them. I dont wish to drag up what happened last year but he left the club, nobody asked him to. Yet he goes on the radio and has a go at Town. i dont think that should be allowed