Jamie O'Hara

[bwagner]

What happened to the 3 or 4 players Trap was suppose to take over and declare for us ??

[Plastic Paddy]

What happened to the 3 or 4 players Trap was suppose to take over and declare for us ??

We got Paul Green - what more could you possibly want? :D

:ball: PP

[bwagner]

Green :O) what a maniac Trap is, He did mention a number of 7 players he was working on ...He is a real waffler

[ifk101]

Westwood, St Ledger, Lawrence, Green and Folan have all been recruited under the granny rule and capped by Trapattoni.

[Fixer82]

I thought Lawrence was always pretty much one of ours...

[rebelmusic]

Trap got him capped

"On 16 February 2006, Lawrence received his first international call-up, for the Republic of Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland_national_football_team) in their friendly game against Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_national_football_team) on 3 March, but spent the entire match as an unused substitute."

Lawrence is an Irish citizen through his Kerry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Kerry)-born grandfather (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather).

[The Bunk]

What happened with Barry Maguire?

[Serb]

What happened with Barry Maguire?

He switched allegiance but I'm not sure he has done enough to deserve a place in the squad. Just because someone has declared for us, doesn't mean they should be in the squad immediately. They have to earn it, just like everyone else.

Plus, if he has switched, he is tied for us regardless as he has represented Holland at U19 level.

[tetsujin1979]

He's been missing from the Utrecht team recently with an ankle problem anyway

[dr_peepee]

Trap got him capped

"On 16 February 2006, Lawrence received his first international call-up, for the Republic of Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland_national_football_team) in their friendly game against Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_national_football_team) on 3 March, but spent the entire match as an unused substitute."

Lawrence is an Irish citizen through his Kerry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Kerry)-born grandfather (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandfather).
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He comitted to Ireland back when he was at Macclesfeild (or mansfeild, one of them anyway.) Before he signed for Sunderland

[SkStu]

surely Green and Westwood are the only players in that list from ifk that Trappatoni can lay claim to having "discovered"? The others had already been called up and declared.

[TrapAPony]

Didn't even discover Green. It was Green that contacted the FAI.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2010/0901/1224277973293.html

[seanfhear]

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He comitted to Ireland back when he was at Macclesfeild (or mansfeild, one of them anyway.) Before he signed for Sunderland You may well be right but I thought it was big Mick McCarthy that suggested that he try his option of playing for Ireland.. I may have it wrong though. I would actually be happier if he had declared an interest earlier. He is good player and if he had an extra yard of pace would be a real quality player.

[tetsujin1979]

It's hardly Trapattoni's fault if players don't want to declare for Ireland?
Clarke is missing from that list too.

[drummerboy]

Well I know for a fact that there are certain members of the FAI that are actively seeking out players who qualify for Ireland. They have followed up possible qualifiers, who were first mentioned here.

[Scooby Doo]

Well I know for a fact that there are certain members of the FAI that are actively seeking out players who qualify for Ireland. They have followed up possible qualifiers, who were first mentioned here.
Any info on the Mark Noble situation DB? Can you give us even a sniff of a clue re him or O'Hara?

[drummerboy]

I think Noble's agent may have stalled his chances.

[Scooby Doo]

I think Noble's agent may have stalled his chances.
Thanks DB. At least now we can essentially discount him.

[paul_oshea]

I think Noble's agent may have stalled his chances.

That is extremely naive, on 1 or all parties, be it Noble, the FAI or Trap if that is the case.

I really don't beleive that could be the case. I would say Noble (being the gent he is) would have been able to bypass his agent had he really wanted to.

[Closed Account]

Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace) is looking into getting the necessary paperwork.
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/ambrose-is-set-for-trap-door-2525639.html

[TrapAPony]

Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace) is looking into getting the necessary paperwork.
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/ambrose-is-set-for-trap-door-2525639.html

Not a bad player. Hopefully Robbie Keane has a quiet word with Mark Noble & Gary O'Neil and Mick McCarthy with Adam Hammill and Jamie O'Hara.

[Sullivinho]

Ambrose in action:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY_H32gXAOI

[gastric]

Thought he was older than 26, but he would bring more nous and vision to the team than Paul Green. In fact just as I type this, it just occured to me, that these qualities may hinder his opportunities under Trap. Interesting comments too in the article in relation to Mark Noble possibly joining us, but I really can't ever see that happening.

[Charlie Darwin]

Darren Ambrose (Crystal Palace) is looking into getting the necessary paperwork.
http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/ambrose-is-set-for-trap-door-2525639.html
A little part of me dies every time I read an article based entirely on quotes from "a source."

[tetsujin1979]

A little part of me dies every time I read an article based entirely on quotes from "a source."
if that's the case, you should probably stay off stay off goal.com

[TrapAPony]

A little part of me dies every time I read an article based entirely on quotes from "a source."

It's mentioned at the end of this article too.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/keane-on-the-defence-after-wolves-fans-criticise-hammers-move-144355.html

[drummerboy]

I see Shane Ferguson hasn't been included in the NI squad. Wonder why?

[Scooby Doo]

I see Shane Ferguson hasn't been included in the NI squad. Wonder why?
You've heard something DB? Or just pass-remarking?

[The Fly]

I see Shane Ferguson hasn't been included in the NI squad. Wonder why?

Welcome aboard Shane.


Are there any more to follow DB?

[drummerboy]

Just pass remarking lads. It is strange though, considering some of the players that were called up.

[an_ceannaire]

With Trap we have midfielders like Whelan, Green, Andrews etc
with a manager who "managed" we could have a midfield with players like O'Hara, Noble, McCarthy, Ireland starting on a regular basis.....even Andy Reid who has abviously been seriously headfu*ked and his career has nose dived ever since.
Instead of McGeady, Whelan, Green, Duff it could read McGeady, Noble, Ireland, O'Hara/Coleman ...............and we would all be delighted........

[TrapAPony]

Since we are on this issue I would like to know whatever happened with Jamie O'Hara, Mark Noble, Kyle Naughton, Gary O'Neil, Matt Connolly..........Anton Ferdinand etc? Do they not want to play for us, have they been pursued? Anyone in the know? I thought at one stage 2 or 3 were meant to be coming on board.

[Uncle_Joe]

I wouldnt think that leaving out Duff would really have many fans "delighted"

[Sullivinho]

Since we are on this issue I would like to know what happened with Jamie O'Hara, Mark Noble, Kyle Naughton, Gary O'Neil, Matt Connolly..........Anton Ferdinand etc? Do they not want to play for us, have they been pursued or have they not been asked? Anyone in the know?

In the England U21 team beaten by Italy today.

[Charlie Darwin]

With Trap we have midfielders like Whelan, Green, Andrews etc
with a manager who "managed" we could have a midfield with players like O'Hara, Noble, McCarthy, Ireland starting on a regular basis.....even Andy Reid who has abviously been seriously headfu*ked and his career has nose dived ever since.
Instead of McGeady, Whelan, Green, Duff it could read McGeady, Noble, Ireland, O'Hara/Coleman ...............and we would all be delighted........
Are we seriously blaming Trapattoni for Andy Reid's fitness problems now?

[TrapAPony]

In the England U21 team beaten by Italy today.

Ya, he was only called in late due to many pull-outs. Micah Richards, Martin Kelly, Kieran Gibbs, Chris Smalling, James Tomkins & Phil Jones were all missing.

[rebelmusic]

O'Hara is really the only one i'd be bothered about. Noble's alright, but he's nothing special when it comes down to it.

[IsMiseSean]

If Jamie O'Hara really wanted to be playing for us, he would be by now.

[bwagner]

Shane Ferguson in the NI under 21s today:
Northern Ireland U21 squad:


Goalkeepers

Conor Devlin Manchester United 23.09.91

Gareth Deane QPR 14.06.94



Defenders

Ryan McGivern Manchester City 08.01.90

Chris Hegarty Rangers 12.08.92

Daniel Devine Preston North End 07.09.92

Ryan Blake Brentford 08.12.91

Carl Winchester Oldham Athletic 2.04.93



Midfielders

Paddy McLaughlin Newcastle United 14.01.91

Shane Ferguson Newcastle United 12.07.91

Josh Carson Ipswich Town 03.06.93

Seanan Clucas Preston North End 08.11.92

James Lawrie AFC Telford 18.12.90

Matthew Lund Stoke City 21.11.90

Kirk Millar Oldham Athletic 07.07.92

Andrew Mitchell Rangers 06.04.92

James Gray Unattached



Forwards

William Grigg Walsall 03.07.91

Josh Magennis Aberdeen 15.08.90

[paul_oshea]

Conor Devlin Manchester United 23.09.91

Gareth Deane QPR 14.06.94



Defenders

Ryan McGivern Manchester City 08.01.90

Chris Hegarty Rangers 12.08.92

Daniel Devine Preston North End 07.09.92



Midfielders

Paddy McLaughlin Newcastle United 14.01.91

Shane Ferguson Newcastle United 12.07.91

Seanan Clucas Preston North End 08.11.92

[cavan_fan]

With Trap we have midfielders like Whelan, Green, Andrews etc
with a manager who "managed" we could have a midfield with players like O'Hara, Noble, McCarthy, Ireland starting on a regular basis.....even Andy Reid who has abviously been seriously headfu*ked and his career has nose dived ever since.
Instead of McGeady, Whelan, Green, Duff it could read McGeady, Noble, Ireland, O'Hara/Coleman ...............and we would all be delighted........

So thats 2 English guys who dont want to play for us...Trap should obviously beg them to play against their wishes.

One Irish guy who doesnt want to play for us....Trap has asked, should he force him to play?

One young Scottish guy who does want to play for us, has played for us but is injured every time he is called up....Trap should do his best Padre Pio healing trick.

One Irish player who has struggled to be picked at Sunderland...Trap should decide he is the hub for our team.


finally you want to drop Duff and replace him with someone who doesnt want to play for us or someone who has just broken through, and you want to replace our midfielders with 2 players who don't want to play for us.

This explains why Trap is one of the worlds most succesful managers of all time and you are a novelty obsessed barstooler.

[IsMiseSean]

So thats 2 English guys who dont want to play for us...Trap should obviously beg them to play against their wishes.

One Irish guy who doesnt want to play for us....Trap has asked, should he force him to play?

One young Scottish guy who does want to play for us, has played for us but is injured every time he is called up....Trap should do his best Padre Pio healing trick.

One Irish player who has struggled to be picked at Sunderland...Trap should decide he is the hub for our team.


finally you want to drop Duff and replace him with someone who doesnt want to play for us or someone who has just broken through, and you want to replace our midfielders with 2 players who don't want to play for us.

This explains why Trap is one of the worlds most succesful managers of all time and you are a novelty obsessed barstooler.

Great post!!

[TrapAPony]

Barton's Irish link


PRESTON midfielder Adam Barton has emerged as a possible recruit for the Republic of Ireland.

The 20-year-old made his debut for Preston last season but he's made real progress this term and has managed 18 appearances for a struggling Preston side.

The club already have two current Irish internationals on the books with Sean St Ledger and Keith Treacy but Barton's Irish credentials have now been made known to the FAI and Ireland scout Mick Martin has been to see the midfielder play.

http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/bohs-close-to-first-signings-bartons-irish-link-2536132.html

Jamie O'Hara

Re England : This is something O'Hara himself is unlikely to do now and not just for reasons of mid-20s career-drift. Capped seven times by England at Under-21 level, he is also eligible to play for the Republic of Ireland. There have already been overtures from the country of his grandparents. "It's obviously quite hard to talk about that now," he says. "I've got Irish in me and they've asked me before. If I get the phone call about playing for my country I'll have to think about it again. I just want to play now."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/11/jamie-ohara-wolves

[paul_oshea]

Who is the my country in this case? Is it England in that if my country call ill have to think about declaring for ireland. or is my country, in this case ireland, i.e. if they call I would declare, they being Ireland.

[Crosby87]

He's got some Irish in him...hehe. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Scooby Doo]

Also, from O'Hara's brother's Twitter, in response to a question about JO'H's international intentions.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/828ras

"@ManofMystery100 (http://twitter.com/ManofMystery100) not to sure mate. Playing for either Ireland or England would be an honour for him as we have links to both. When and if the time comes he will make the right choice".

Think its pretty clear we're second choice although I reckon that there's more chance of seeing him in a green jersey than a white/red one. I would be happy to have him in the squad for the purpose of increasing midfield options but saying that I'm not overly bothered.

[rebelmusic]

I think in fairness to O'Hara its like this.

With England there is strong potential to win major tournaments. Realistically with Ireland if we even made the semi's we'd be delighted.

He's tried very hard throughout this to maintain a neutrality towards both countries, saying he'd play for both (besides his twitters). England is simply the better option. He's done a far better job than the likes of Westwood did (good catholic). I say leave him make up his own mind, and if he comes to us, welcome him in the door.

[CraftyToePoke]

I think in fairness to O'Hara its like this.

With England there is strong potential to win major tournaments. Realistically with Ireland if we even made the semi's we'd be delighted.

He's tried very hard throughout this to maintain a neutrality towards both countries, saying he'd play for both (besides his twitters). England is simply the better option. He's done a far better job than the likes of Westwood did (good catholic). I say leave him make up his own mind, and if he comes to us, welcome him in the door.


I dont think England are potential tournament winners in any way, other than briefly in their own minds pre each tournament, and their being repeatedly outperformed and sometimes well beaten by nations they feel they deem beneath them, and the inevitable tail between the legs early plane home, is a constant source of amusement to many, myself included. They qualify more often than we do, but thats all.

He hasnt maintained any neutrality, his twitter betrays his true feelings on it and insults us in the process, and the value of representing Ireland. He made his mind up years ago, if we called him up tomorrow and so did England, he wouldnt even have to consider it, there wouldnt be a decision to be made in his eyes.

If he did come our way, I would advocate booing his every touch untill he goes back to where he came from, England. That might make the rest of them get off the fence earlier in the years to come also, lets remove the Ireland as a back up career path for these people, that can only be a good thing.

[Colbert Report]

I reckon it goes something like this with O'Hara. I'm eligible to play for both Ireland and Canada. Obviously I would love nothing more than to play for Ireland as I grew up watching the Jack Charlton teams and playing football in Ireland with all my friends as children. Now, were I good enough to play professional football for the likes of Spurs, I'd be hoping to get a call up for Ireland. If I didn't, I would probably wait it out as long as I possibly could before accepting a call up for Canada. Sorry, but Canada are not very good in comparison to Ireland and I don't consider myself a Canadian anyway. I think I'd wait until I was about thirty, and there was no chance at all of an Ireland call up. Then, and only then, would I consider turning out for my second choice, Canada. They'd be lucky to have a player the calibre of Tottenham Hotspur turn out for them.

So you see kids, we need to give O'Hara a break. He's been nothing but honest about wanting to play for England the entire time.

[SkStu]

yep i agree.

The real question is whether we are desperate enough to indulge players with that attitude. Personally, i'd rather do without.