Jamie O'Hara [Archive] - Page 16

rebelmusic

06/10/2010, 3:33 PM

So the person who changed it to declared first wrote

"He has declared his intention to declare for the [[Republic of Ireland national football team|Republic of Ireland]] and is waiting for an Giovanni Trappatoni to make contact."

Then he changed Trap to Fai.

Ip address is not responding. The person who added the citation for this added the rte link. Their ip resolved to the University of Minnesota - so probably some wiki junkie who doesnt like seeing things added without citations and googled the rte link.

rebelmusic

06/10/2010, 3:36 PM

Wait resolving now -

83-70-109-118-dynamic.b-ras1.chf.cork.eircom.net

haha, dont think Jamie was using an eircom net connection in Cork in August. Prolly a false alarm so.

Adrock

06/10/2010, 6:20 PM

it benefited france and holland the french can take players from the carribean and holland can get players from surinam. ruud guillet and edgar davis and jimmyfloud hassibank ect were born outside of holland. if a player is good enough he should be picked period. nocho novo can playfor scotland now he should be picked. if a player can play for us pick him end of story
Thats not the same - Gullit etc all grew up and learnt to play football in the country they represent and as such are representative of that country.If they'd been born in Holland and spent the rest of their life in Surinam I tend to doubt they'd have become world class footballers judging from Surinam's FIFA rankings.
If you base nationality on ancestral origins it becomes meaningless, everyone would just play for Gondwanaland. If Clark really wanted to play for Ireland he's have done so by now instead of waiting til England weren't picking him any more

SwanVsDalton

06/10/2010, 7:00 PM

Thats not the same - Gullit etc all grew up and learnt to play football in the country they represent and as such are representative of that country.If they'd been born in Holland and spent the rest of their life in Surinam I tend to doubt they'd have become world class footballers judging from Surinam's FIFA rankings.
If you base nationality on ancestral origins it becomes meaningless, everyone would just play for Gondwanaland. If Clark really wanted to play for Ireland he's have done so by now instead of waiting til England weren't picking him any more

He definitely had a shot with England - Ricky Sbragia reckons he's the best centre halves in the country for his age and he's extremely highly rated round Villa Park. Since it took Dunney Monster to alert the FAI and give him a call, it's far more likely he decided to switch because he actually wanted to play for Ireland. And his 'ancestral origins' are an Irish mum and a Scottish born Irish dad - it's hardly a stretch, like playing for 'Gondwanaland.'

Charlie Darwin

06/10/2010, 8:33 PM

Thats not the same - Gullit etc all grew up and learnt to play football in the country they represent and as such are representative of that country.If they'd been born in Holland and spent the rest of their life in Surinam I tend to doubt they'd have become world class footballers judging from Surinam's FIFA rankings.
If you base nationality on ancestral origins it becomes meaningless, everyone would just play for Gondwanaland. If Clark really wanted to play for Ireland he's have done so by now instead of waiting til England weren't picking him any more
He's been left out of one England squad in his life. not even the most committed wind up merchant could argue that he left in a huff because he wasn't being picked.

boovidge

06/10/2010, 9:36 PM

don't remember any of these arguments being directed at Shane Duffy even though he played youth football and accepted a callup to the senior squad of another association and actually did declare for us partly because of a fallout with the NI management.

tetsujin1979

06/10/2010, 11:20 PM

Interesting. Somebody with the user name JamieforIreland added that citation on wikipedia last week.

Where you seeing that ifk? Just saw an ip address which i resolved to minnesota.

So the person who changed it to declared first wrote

"He has declared his intention to declare for the [[Republic of Ireland national football team|Republic of Ireland]] and is waiting for an Giovanni Trappatoni to make contact."

Then he changed Trap to Fai.

Ip address is not responding. The person who added the citation for this added the rte link. Their ip resolved to the University of Minnesota - so probably some wiki junkie who doesnt like seeing things added without citations and googled the rte link.

Wait resolving now -

83-70-109-118-dynamic.b-ras1.chf.cork.eircom.net

haha, dont think Jamie was using an eircom net connection in Cork in August. Prolly a false alarm so.

holy carp, when did foot.ie join Anonymous??

AlaskaFox

07/10/2010, 9:09 AM

Colbert Report

07/10/2010, 11:51 AM

What's up with Jamie O'Hara, when is he due to be back in action?

ifk101

07/10/2010, 12:04 PM

What's up with Jamie O'Hara, when is he due to be back in action?

Will be back in january raring to go, thanks for the support peeps need some encouragement to get me through this **** 4:37 AM Sep 24th via �berTwitter

:bigsmile:

rebelmusic

07/10/2010, 12:54 PM

Based on his "L33T" talk i'd say he's happy at home playing World of Warcraft

Charlie Darwin

07/10/2010, 1:12 PM

:bigsmile:
Thanks peep.

The Fly

07/10/2010, 1:29 PM

Gondwanaland 0-2 Bongo Bongo Land

.....you mean Gondwanaland 0 - 2 Laurasia.

tetsujin1979

07/10/2010, 1:45 PM

.....you mean Gondwanaland 0 - 2 Laurasia.
Everyone knows Laurasia got all the good players from Pangea when it split.

paul_oshea

07/10/2010, 1:46 PM

before their time....

Adrock

07/10/2010, 2:11 PM

He's been left out of one England squad in his life. not even the most committed wind up merchant could argue that he left in a huff because he wasn't being picked.
England Under-21 team must have played a dozen games in his age group and he's never got a call up. It never seems to have occured to him to play for Ireland the last four age groups when he was in the England set-up, and is it seriously possible the FAI with their genealogical charts of every professional footballer in Britain didn't know he had a Irish Mum before? If he was current England under-21 capatain and he's volunteered himself for the ROI team without having his ear chewed by his senior club teammate I'd have had a little more faith but its never happened that way and likely never will, except maybe for a Northern Ireland lad because playing for them doesn't seem like such an appealing option!

AlaskaFox

07/10/2010, 2:13 PM

.....you mean Gondwanaland 0 - 2 Laurasia.

Ah you're right, I was thinking of the Former Soviet Republic of Bulimia
http://liberalconspiracy.org/images/media/dailymail_bongoland.jpg

Charlie Darwin

07/10/2010, 2:28 PM

England Under-21 team must have played a dozen games in his age group and he's never got a call up. It never seems to have occured to him to play for Ireland the last four age groups when he was in the England set-up, and is it seriously possible the FAI with their genealogical charts of every professional footballer in Britain didn't know he had a Irish Mum before? If he was current England under-21 capatain and he's volunteered himself for the ROI team without having his ear chewed by his senior club teammate I'd have had a little more faith but its never happened that way and likely never will, except maybe for a Northern Ireland lad because playing for them doesn't seem like such an appealing option!
Take a look at the England U-21 squad - every player in it has been playing first team football this season or at the end of last. Clark hasn't, hence his exclusion. That's the only difference between their U-20 and U-21 squads and he'd have to be a bit thick not to understand that.

The kid's taken a leap of faith at a young age to play for us - you can criticise him for it but I'll wait around and see what he has to offer.

The Fly

08/10/2010, 1:46 PM

Everyone knows Laurasia got all the good players from Pangea when it split.

...Laurasia's 'irredentist' citizenship laws didn't help either. ;)

drummerboy

08/10/2010, 2:37 PM

Clark started the season in the first team and made a good fist of it too.

Take a look at the England U-21 squad - every player in it has been playing first team football this season or at the end of last. Clark hasn't, hence his exclusion. That's the only difference between their U-20 and U-21 squads and he'd have to be a bit thick not to understand that.

The kid's taken a leap of faith at a young age to play for us - you can criticise him for it but I'll wait around and see what he has to offer.

CraftyToePoke

26/10/2010, 1:07 AM

With Mark Noble now being touted as a possibility, and Paul Greens current presence in our first 11, along with St. Ledger, I wondered if regulars on here thought there would be value in taking a look at Matthew Connolly of QPR in a friendly, a regular starter in the meanest defence in the Championship, (4 goals conceded) and highly likely to be a Premiership player this time next year. I feel he would be worth a look at and Id be surprised if he werent at least approaced and sounded out about it.

Also, does anyone know of Lewis McGugan of Forest being eligible? Ive heard that he is, and although he had some 'lifestyle issues' a season or so ago, the Forest manager seems happy enough with him again of late, he certainly has talent.

DannyInvincible

26/10/2010, 1:58 AM

Also, does anyone know of Lewis McGugan of Forest being eligible? Ive heard that he is, and although he had some 'lifestyle issues' a season or so ago, the Forest manager seems happy enough with him again of late, he certainly has talent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSfJ9-gw8RU

Please God.

CraftyToePoke

26/10/2010, 3:46 AM

That was his seventh of the season, he's starting to turn heads, may not be a Forest player next season if he keeps it together off the field. And I think he is eligible.

DannyInvincible

26/10/2010, 4:43 AM

Where did you hear that he is eligible, by the way?

gastric

26/10/2010, 4:58 AM

Have a look at the Irish Abroad thread. There is recent some info there.

DannyInvincible

26/10/2010, 5:13 AM

tetsujin1979

26/10/2010, 9:21 AM

I wondered if regulars on here thought there would be value in taking a look at Matthew Connolly of QPR in a friendly, a regular starter in the meanest defence in the Championship, (4 goals conceded) and highly likely to be a Premiership player this time next year. I feel he would be worth a look at and Id be surprised if he werent at least approaced and sounded out about it.
Connolly was called into an U19 squad before, and pulled out. A few months later he played for England U19's

CraftyToePoke

26/10/2010, 11:01 AM

Connolly was called into an U19 squad before, and pulled out. A few months later he played for England U19's

Yeah, I remember that, think he was at Arsenal at the time, looked like he was going to drift down the divisions for a bit but has recovered it. I'm sure the question has been asked behind the scenes and we will know soon enough. The QPR goals against column this season is very impressive and he is at the heart of it.

Adrock

26/10/2010, 12:59 PM

Cheers. It appears he has an Irish father then. I wonder if he'd be interested in playing for us as that's quite a strong blood connection for even the purists who'd object to the likes of Mark Noble lining out for us on the basis of having an Irish grandparent.
No it doesn't, his elligibility seems to rest on the fact he's got a Mc in his surname. Even Uefa's lax eligibility rules wouldn't allow him to play for us on that basis

geysir

26/10/2010, 4:08 PM

No it doesn't, his elligibility seems to rest on the fact he's got a Mc in his surname. Even Uefa's lax eligibility rules wouldn't allow him to play for us on that basis
UEFA don't have and don't make the eligibility rules. FIFA runs the game. Most everybody here knows that.
You are ignorant about one of the most basic fundamentals of football. Why am I not surprised?:rolleyes:

Adrock

26/10/2010, 6:14 PM

UEFA don't have and don't make the eligibility rules. FIFA runs the game. Most everybody here knows that.
You are ignorant about one of the most basic fundamentals of football. Why am I not surprised?:rolleyes:
Good point, completely refutes my point as I used the wrong acronym. I have been known to refer to the Netherlands as Holland before in conversation also even though I am aware it actually only constitutes one province of the Netherlands. I think people still understand what I'm referring to though. Well spotted all the same..........

geysir

26/10/2010, 6:44 PM

Adrock, I think the rational people will correctly suspect your motives in posting exclusively on eligibility threads and question your actual interest in football matters.
As I suspect you have little interest and knowledge of football and just like those occasional posters who have come here before, you have only the one politicised agenda.

SkStu

26/10/2010, 6:57 PM

i wouldnt be surprised if he was a NI fan posing as an Ireland fan. Thats what crossed my mind. Either way, meh - pinch of salt required.

IsMiseSean

26/10/2010, 9:35 PM

Simon Cox scored 2 for West Brom tonight, he has expressed his interest in playing for us before. Surely worth a look given our lack of depth up front?

awayfan

27/10/2010, 6:16 PM

IsMiseSean

28/10/2010, 2:49 PM

Yes Cox has declared for Ireland but his only starts this season for the Baggies has been in the Carling Cup. He has been on the bench quite a bit. If he breaks into the HIGH FLYING BAGGIES team (yes I am aWBA fan) then he might also do a job for Ireland.

Surely he should be looked at even if he's on the bench for WBA. Some players currently in the squad are warming the bench quite regularly....

TrapAPony

28/10/2010, 2:53 PM

Surely he should be looked at even if he's on the bench for WBA. Some players currently in the squad are warming the bench quite regularly....

Agreed. Andy Keogh for example is usually just a late sub for Cardiff City. Surely Cox is much better than him.

TrapAPony

28/10/2010, 3:32 PM

Here Eirambler :

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2010/04/28/simon-cox-wants-west-brom-to-sort-out-his-future-97319-26333485/

rebelmusic

28/10/2010, 5:49 PM

Sounds similar to the O'Hara situation. In fairness though, strikers are the one area where we don't really have any talent coming through, stokes probably being the best.

ifk101

28/10/2010, 6:04 PM

Agreed. Andy Keogh for example is usually just a late sub for Cardiff City. Surely Cox is much better than him.

Pro Evolution Soccer 2011 values Keogh two and a half times higher than Cox. :bigsmile:

Sounds similar to the O'Hara situation. In fairness though, strikers are the one area where we don't really have any talent coming through, stokes probably being the best.

I thought Long did quite well in the last game against Slovakia. Arguably our man of the match.

There's plenty of options available to Trapattoni but there not to be found in the WBA reserves.

rebelmusic

29/10/2010, 4:46 PM

There's plenty of options available to Trapattoni but there not to be found in the WBA reserves.

Ah, I meant new talent. We've known about Long for ages, and i don't think he's the next Robbie in fairness.

gastric

29/10/2010, 10:19 PM

Ah, I meant new talent. We've known about Long for ages, and i don't think he's the next Robbie in fairness.

Rebel I agree. If Don Givens is working to some blueprint in terms of recruiting, I would say that the forward area is in need of work. When Robbie retires, Stokes, who is improving, becomes striker no 1. But who else is there? Robert Brady I believe is a winger playing as a striker and Arsenal websites talk quite highly of Roberts. Outside of these two prospects, it's all pretty quiet.

rebelmusic

31/10/2010, 6:10 PM

Aye, i notice myself taking a huge interest in Adam Rooney in the SPL hoping, and that's pretty sad really! Maybe the young Murray lad with Ipswich is something to look for but he's not getting much game time.

theworm2345

05/11/2010, 1:14 PM

Anyone else see this?
http://www.98fm.com/news-sport/sport/kevin-nolan-ireland-0510943/

Charlie Darwin

05/11/2010, 1:40 PM

Our loss is the Netherlands' gain.

DannyInvincible

05/11/2010, 1:46 PM

I thought he said he wasn't interested in playing for Ireland a few years ago or was that myth? I assume his great-grandparents must have been Irish then.

TrapAPony

05/11/2010, 1:46 PM

Our loss is the Netherlands' gain.

Don't think he can play for Holland either. Think he said that on Soccer Am.

Some quotes from Nolan on this (Ireland) matter in today's paper :

''I spoke to them (the FAI) and we tried to work it out but because my grandad is only half Irish and so is my dad, we we couldn't do it. Someone in the family has to be full-blown Irish, so it was put to bed then. It would have been fantastic, but there you go.''

Surely with all the crookery going on in this country that this one could easily be pulled out of the fire.:rolleyes: