Merely making the point that plenty of people identify as being British & Irish - myself included.Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
If it wasn't for the fact that people born in Northern Ireland have Dual Nationality, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. I suspect that subtle point is lost on you.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Aye, Shane Duffy "loved" it that much that he opted instead to play for the FAI. What's relevant about Duffy snr's opinion on Worthington?
End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!
Yes, of course.
I give you Alan Kernaghan for starters.
What an absurd question.
Last edited by Not Brazil; 21/08/2011 at 5:47 PM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
No, I'm not.So you are'implying' McClean and every SF voter supports/supported the 'PIRA' ???
I am, however, asserting that anyone who supports PSF supports the Provisional movement - that is self evident.
By the way - why do sections of the Celtic support refer to "Provo Pat" (McCourt)? Are they asserting he was in PIRA?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Who should he be bothering?
Clinghan did have a choice - contrary to your spurious assertion that he didn't.See previous replies to various posts passim.
Most of which you chose to ignore.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I'm unaware of any member of the RUC representing Antrim, or any other County, at senior level at any GAA code. In fact, members of the RUC were banned from playing Gaelic games. In the case of Brian McCargo, he was asked to leave the GAA after joining the RUC.
Of note, when "Rule 21" was repealed in 2001, the Antrim Board voted against it being repealed.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I think the irony was lost on you - again!
Our own hoime ground can be entered without even having to set eyes on a pesky Unionist/Loyalist - via the Boucher Road, to be precise. You could enter via the, mixed, Lisburn Road if you wished too....as I do every time I go to a match at the venue.
I noticed the nice green seating at the recent game v the Faroes.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
That's not necessarily a bluff though. Perhaps he did enjoy it for certain reasons, but he didn't need to have hated playing for NI to have loved more the notion of playing for Ireland.
Definately, the irony is lost on you.
If I ever go to watch my County play GAA at Casement, I think I'll delay going into until after the anthem is played. I'm sure there'll be no objection to me wearing a Northern Ireland shirt either.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Pity he didn't "opt" earlier.
Maybe his da is an oul bluffer.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Absolutely.
Just a pity he didn't love the notion of playing for the South more earlier.
We live and learn.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
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Nah, the column just displayed Gerry Armstrong's ignorance and hypocrisy for all to see.
Players who want to represent Northern Ireland at senior international level - and less wasting time and money on those who don't.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I agree with you to an extent Mr P - I think there still exists an ignorance of the issues at IFA HQ, amongst some of it's representatives.
I cringed at Gerry's column last week - "it's time for me and James to have a chat".
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
So why the insistence Duffy and his father are liars or bluffers? His father made very clear in that post on OWC that his preference was for his son to be playing for Ireland.
I'd imagine that's more affectionate than malicious and due to something between him being from Derry - a former PIRA stronghold - and maybe some wishing he actually had been a member of the PIRA. A bit daft, certainly, but are we using sections of Celtic's support as a moral standard now?
Nothing justifies referring to McClean as a "provo" simply because he stated he was a Sinn Féin supporter on his Facebook. We all know the abusive and defamatory intent behind such a tag within the context it was used, even if you want to kid yourself that anyone refers to Sinn Féin members and supporters as "provos" in civilised contemporary discourse.
His da is certainly a bluffer - as discourse on another forum will confirm.
McCourt is "affectionately" called a "Provo" by sections of the Celtic support, but if a Northern Ireland supporter called him that...well, you know the rest.
You couldn't make it up.
I call any supporter of the Provisional movement ie. PSF/PIRA, a Provo supporter - because that's what they are, funnily enough.
I say that as someone who voted to put the Provos in Government, and to share power with them.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Antagonism is your default setting really isn't it? Quite pathetic.
Except you couldn't be more wrong on that statement, NB
Where is the bluff exactly?
I'd argue it's all about context. You are aware, for example, there'd be a difference between a white man pejoratively calling a black man a "n*gger" and a fellow black man affectionately calling a black man a "n*gger", surely? But just to be clear, I wasn't defending either, which is why I mocked the notion of using sections of Celtic's support as a moral gauge.McCourt is "affectionately" called a "Provo" by sections of the Celtic support, but if a Northern Ireland supporter called him that...well, you know the rest.
You couldn't make it up.
I've had to read that a few times to make sure I'm reading you right. It's quite a revelation. Does that make you a Provo yourself then?I call any supporter of the Provisional movement ie. PSF/PIRA, a Provo supporter - because that's what they are, funnily enough.
I say that as someone who voted to put the Provos in Government, and to share power with them.
And if you don't mind my curiosity, what possessed a confirmed unionist to vote for Sinn Féin?
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