QuoteHypocrisy surely, If it was true...
In what way am I wrong, mo chara?Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Hypocrisy surely, If it was true...
I'm assuming he's referring to the referendum on the Good Friday agreement rather then in local elections.
No, I dont vote for PSF.
I did, however, vote YES in the GFA referendum.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
What hypocricy?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
They also claimed that Shunsuke Nakamura voted Sinn Fein but I doubt they really believe he did or was even entitled to.....
He may have eaten Chow Mein though.
Last edited by Drumcondra 69er; 21/08/2011 at 6:40 PM.
What about wanting Nacho Novo killed by an IRA gun?
Just a bit of craic too?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Fair enough.
Have you always referred to Sinn Féin as "PSF", by the way, or has it just been ever since the issue of referring to James McClean as a "provo" was raised as being unacceptable a week or two ago?
Your question was "why do sections of the Celtic support refer to "Provo Pat" (McCourt)? Are they asserting he was in PIRA?".
I was merely pointing out the absurdity of that specific quote, I really don't see the value of getting involved in an OT debate about sectarian chants in general much as you've probably had more exposure to that than I've had.
So using your self evident formula, would you also then assert that former IFA President (and still honorary IFA Life vice-president) Raymond Kennedy is sectarian and bigoted, seeing as he is an active member of the Orange Order? (an organisation recognised as being one of the most bigoted organisations in Western Europe).
Yes, always.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Not sure of your analogy, but I would certainly assert that sections of the Orange Order are bigoted.
The Orange Order makes no secret of the fact that is a "sectarian" organisation - it is a Pro Reformed Faith organisation.
Ditto the likes of the AOH are "sectarian".
Is, for example, The Church of Rome "sectarian"? I guess it is, in common with all churches.
I don't know Raymond Kennedy well enough to be able to comment on whether he is a bigot or not.
None of this negates the fact that a supporter of the Provisional movement is a, er, Provo supporter.
PS. There's no orange in my National Flag.
Last edited by Not Brazil; 21/08/2011 at 7:21 PM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
If I'm reading you correctly, you are asserting that the Provos are "sectarian", and chants about them are "sectarian"?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I think you're trying to humour me. Four posts previous to the post I've quoted, you didn't even bother distinguishing between which of the numerous IRAs you were talking about...
To be precise, McClean was referred to as a "provo"; not a "Provo supporter", which is your disingenuous attempt to put a more acceptable gloss on it. You've generally struck me as being a rational and reasonable person, but on this, I think you're trying to pull my leg. Would you happily refer to a quarter of the NI electorate as "provos"? And in doing so, you'd then find it difficult to understand as to why that might be perceived as being provocative and insensitive coming from a unionist? Seriously, like?
Edit: Even using the term "Provo supporters" would be inflammatory, for God's sake.
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 21/08/2011 at 7:31 PM.
Which is still wrong...
Behold the crown jewels.
I amended my comments about McClean for clarity, when originally challenged. If he is not a member of the Provisional Movement, then he is not a Provo.
Sorry if you find people who support the Provisional Movement being called "Provo supporters" "inflammatory" - but, it's your problem, not mine.
I would most definately refer to the circa 25% of those who bother voting in Northern Ireland, and vote for the Provisional Movement's political wing, as Provo supporters.
(P)SF make no apology in expressing their support for, admiration of, and links to the other wing of the movement ie. PIRA. "With an armalite in one hand, and a ballot box in the other" I believe Danny Morrison once said. A click or two on the (P)SF website highlights all of that.
I don't see why some supporters of the Provisional movement get so precious about being called what they are, and I don't see what all the fuss is about.
Last edited by Not Brazil; 21/08/2011 at 7:52 PM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
No "Crown Jewels" in my National Flag either.Behold the crown jewels.
There is a St Patrick's Cross in it though - good flag for the IFA to adopt maybe?
I note the "red hand" of the feared Gaelic Chieftan who fought those horrible Brits in the Ulster Banner. Quite an irony that...what, with the Crown there too.
Last edited by Not Brazil; 21/08/2011 at 7:51 PM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
In what way?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
This argument originated out of you defending a poster on OWC referring to McClean as a "provo".
Aye, and if a black man has a problem with me calling him a "n*gger" that's his problem too, I guess...Sorry if you find people who support the Provisional Movement being called "Provos "inflammatory" - but, it's your problem, not mine.
Edit: Lucky I caught your post pre-edit, eh?
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