QuoteAm replying to your posts above!
What are you on about?Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Am replying to your posts above!
I also watched with envy.
Did something change between then and, say, when Anton Rogan started getting stick from NI fans? The easy guess would be that it was all because of his background, or because he represented the nationalist / republican symbolic club in Scotland, but I also have a sneaking suspicion that if he had been really good at playing full back he'd have been far more popular. Being a relatively dodgy full back in an era when NI were starting to live in the real world again didn't do him any favours. What about the Celtic keeper at the time, McKnight? Was he more popular?
Whilst I think the FAI could do a lot better than allow the continuation of the exportation of our best young talents abroad at an early age and then rely on English clubs to take up the later teenage development of our players from what are essentially Irish youth feeder clubs, it has been a very satisfactory development in recent years to see increasing numbers of players you really can call "home-grown" excel at a higher level in England after moving on from the League of Ireland; the likes of Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Séamus Coleman, Conor Sammon, David Meyler and Keith Fahey at a stretch who bucked the trend of "failures" having to return home for good to a career of semi-professional mediocrity after things didn't work out at a higher level the first time round.
"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."He was sitting at the same table and all.
The Union flag? Not really what I would have had in mind if the IFA were to amend their symbolism in order to try and improve cross-community relations, but then, whatever floats their boat.
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 23/05/2011 at 1:09 AM.
Perhaps we should change our flag to a tricolour and change our name to the North of Ireland and our national anthem to Amhrán na bhFiann but you know what, that still wouldn't please some people.Whilst I think the FAI could do a lot better than allow the continuation of the exportation of our best young talents abroad at an early age and then rely on English clubs to take up the later teenage development of our players from what are essentially Irish youth feeder clubs, it has been a very satisfactory development in recent years to see increasing numbers of players you really can call "home-grown" excel at a higher level in England after moving on from the League of Ireland; the likes of Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Séamus Coleman, Conor Sammon, David Meyler and Keith Fahey at a stretch who bucked the trend of "failures" having to return home for good to a career of semi-professional mediocrity after things didn't work out at a higher level the first time round.
"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."
The Union flag? Not really what I would have had in mind if the IFA were to amend their symbolism in order to try and improve cross-community relations, but then, whatever floats their boat.
I think you get my point here.
Indeed. But here's the thing; this problem aptly demonstrates the inherently British-unionist political and cultural nature of the statelet itself but yet the IFA seek nationalists to engage and involve themselves with it. They then play dumb when nationalists declare intentions of playing with what the IFA deem "another country".
A piece on the eligibility issue by John O'Brien: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...m-2654162.html
Probably one of the better-researched pieces I've come across. One thing though:
If a graph was drawn up to show the declarations of northern-born Irish nationals for the FAI by year since the mid-1990s, I'm not so sure the quantity declaring would be any more significant post-Gibson than before.When the trickle threatened to develop into a steady stream, however, patience began to wear a little thinner.
That is a decent article DI.
I agree with you - I don't think the quantity has significantly increased post Gibson, but the quality has.
Interesting to note in the article about IFA mutterings about allowing a two way scenario to happen - my view on that is quite clear. The day and hour that the IFA pursue that path, is the day and hour their end begins.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
JO'B says it's the first game between us since '93. Was their not a friendly since then that NI won 1-0?
Charity game - hence the result.
I am unaware of any abuse directed at Daniel Devine.
Daniel Devine is not from a "unionist background".
David Healy is not a "Catholic".
David Healy's dad is not a "Catholic".
David Healy did not receive sectatian abuse on account of being a "Catholic".
Does that clear that up for you?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
...and two Euro 96 qualifiers but as there were only a handful of ManU players involved I wouldn't expect JO'B to be too tuned in to it.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
List of all games VS the North, from soccerscene.ie: http://www.soccerscene.ie/sssenior/opponent.php?opp=37
Would accepting back some players who had previously wanted to play for the FAI count ? O'Kane and one other I think you mentioned to me the other day, who changed back after not progressing.
Kane & O'Connor?
Different scenario to what I was alluding to.
I was thinking about ROI born players, with no link to Northern Ireland.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
In other words Irish born players playing for the Irish Football Association.
Irish born players with British Citizenship are always welcome to play for the (British) Irish Football Association.In other words Irish born players playing for the Irish Football Association.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
The (B)IFA.
Not be be confused with FAI(R) - or has mad Willie copyright on that?
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
......
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