MNS (Monday Night Soccer)

[pete]

Thought he made a bags of the frst part myself, didn't get his hips to make the full rotation required. SHocking, if anyone saw that, it would have turned them off Irish soccer straight away.

I presume tongue in check? It won't turn people off Irish football but I did think it was hilarious. No worse than Robbie Keane tumble.?

[L37Ultra]

(apart from the usual couple of Limerick moaners).

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I really enjoyed it.;) I thought it was excellent to be honest. I wouldnt agree with the other Limerick lads that the First Division should be on it. Realistically it shouldnt. Just to have a prime time show for Premier League football is great step forward, to have First Division coverage now would be running before you could walk in my opinion. Match of the day in England doesnt show Championship highlights so why should MNS show the First Division. Clubs have to earn that kind of coverage.

[thischarmingman]

The amount of responses on this thread, including up to the minute updates during the program itself shows just how hard it is to please a lot of people. Some of us seem to assume the league should become the Premiership overnight; surely making steady progress year on year is the way forward? Compare TV coverage in 2005 to 2006; 2006 to 2007; 2007 to 2008- it gets gets slightly better each year, with a huge jump this year. The program, with a couple of teething problems, was a vast, vast improvement on what we normally see, and I'd have no problem recommending it to non-LOI fans.

[paudie]

Was switching between MNS and Linfield v Derry so didn't see all of it.
What I saw was excellent. Good panel who knew their stuff. Roddy not too annoying. All the Premier league goals.
I hope the first Division gets some coverage but it was only the first programme maybe they will in future.

Cobh to Donegal feature was good. The Cobh player featured wasn't much of a talker unfortunately.

60seconds thing was ok as well. Just something light.

I'd urge people to email RTE with their comments on the show as positive feedback is bound to encorage them to keep working hard on the show.

[jebus]

I like that people are using First Division attendences as an excuse for why it shouldn't be given two minutes of an hour long programme, especially when you consider that of the 8 LoI games last weekend First Division sides posted the 3rd and (marginally) 5th best attendences, with the only game being poorly attended being Monaghan vs Limerick

[Dodge]

I like that people are using First Division attendences as an excuse for why it shouldn't be given two minutes of an hour long programme, especially when you consider that of the 8 LoI games last weekend First Division sides posted the 3rd and (marginally) 5th best attendences, with the only game being poorly attended being Monaghan vs Limerick

Do all first division grounds have tv gantries? Remember that RTE have a limited enough budget and probably can't film all 11 games each week. if they are to film only 6 games each week, they should be the Premier games.

A lot has to do with perception and how grounds look on TV. Richmond is a kip, but looks well on TV. Same with dalymount and to a lesser extent United Park. Derry finally saw sense and moved the camera out of the main stand and now faces it. I also think smaller grounds that look fuller make better viewing than say 800-1000 people watching a game spread around Tolka Park.

[Maroon 7]

Do all first division grounds have tv gantries? Remember that RTE have a limited enough budget and probably can't film all 11 games each week. if they are to film only 6 games each week, they should be the Premier games.

A lot has to do with perception and how grounds look on TV. Richmond is a kip, but looks well on TV. Same with dalymount and to a lesser extent United Park. Derry finally saw sense and moved the camera out of the main stand and now faces it. I also think smaller grounds that look fuller make better viewing than say 800-1000 people watching a game spread around Tolka Park.

Think United Park still looks a bit kippy on telly although not as bad as when seeing it in person. Richmond does surprisingly look quite well on television for some reason. In Terryland I guess it doesn't help that the camera crews refuse to use the new television gantry opposite the new stand meaning coverage from the ground never shows the usually full new stand. Instead we get pictures of the two-thirds empty old stand.

[L37Ultra]

I like that people are using First Division attendences as an excuse for why it shouldn't be given two minutes of an hour long programme, especially when you consider that of the 8 LoI games last weekend First Division sides posted the 3rd and (marginally) 5th best attendences, with the only game being poorly attended being Monaghan vs Limerick


If enough people emailed them on Mns@rte.ie they might do something on the First Division.


You never know. Its worth a try.:ball:

[jebus]

Do all first division grounds have tv gantries? Remember that RTE have a limited enough budget and probably can't film all 11 games each week. if they are to film only 6 games each week, they should be the Premier games.

If RTE can't extend their resources to cover the First Division then fair enough, I'd question that they don't, but if proven then I would say fair enough, but obviously the Premier games should take precedent. All I'm asking for is 2-3 mins of goal highlights.

As for TV Gantrys, most if not all of us would, not sure about Fingal or Wexford.

[Dodge]

If RTE can't extend their resources to cover the First Division then fair enough, I'd question that they don't, but if proven then I would say fair enough, but obviously the Premier games should take precedent. All I'm asking for is 2-3 mins of goal highlights.
I'm sure they could cover it, but seeing as they haven't been even close to covering every premier game before this year they've made a step up and we'll see if they continue to grow into it. They do only have limited resources though, and we know that if they start showing the first division now, but ina couple of months time had to use the cameras for GAA (and they will..) there'd be even worse outcry.



As for TV Gantrys, most if not all of us would, not sure about Fingal or Wexford.
Longford doesn't really (well none that can accomodate cameras and commentators). I know they can film highlights without commentators

[OneRedArmy]

I really enjoyed the show.

In terms of the First Division, if time and finances were infinite, I wouldn't mind seeing a round up of the goals, but we know they aren't.

So that leaves the choice as
a) cutting back on the spend producing the Premier element to divert to proper footage of the First Division
b) showing footage shot by some fella with a camcorder that belongs on Youtube as TV3 regularly used to do (slight hyperbole but not far off the mark, the quality was usually muck)
c) not showing the First Division

Then c) wins for me. If the First Division clubs are willing to pay for camera work and editing to the standard employed by RTE then that changes the dynamic but we all know there is zero chance of this happening when clubs can barely scrape wages together.

[jebus]

Longford doesn't really (well none that can accomodate cameras and commentators). I know they can film highlights without commentators

I wouldn't expect commentators to be honest, Limerick wouldn't have facilities for them either, more one guy doing a voiceover of all the games ala Goals on Sunday

[Dodge]

I wouldn't expect commentators to be honest, Limerick wouldn't have facilities for them either, more one guy doing a voiceover of all the games ala Goals on Sunday
I know but RTE won't send their expensive cameras up a bit of scaffolding (and their unionised cameramen won't go up there either).

[CameramanConka]

anyone?

There will be two at the Derry - Harps game on Friday and two at the Sligo - Drogs game on Saturday.

[Boo_Boy]

my brother sky +'d it and was watching it this-morning,i noticed a small mistake that i didnt see the first time,

when they brought up the info for this years EL-PD,the first line said ''3 teams will be relegated to the Premier Division'';)

[Réiteoir]

my brother sky +'d it and was watching it this-morning,i noticed a small mistake that i didnt see the first time,

when they brought up the info for this years EL-PD,the first line said ''3 teams will be relegated to the Premier Division'';)

didn't you hear?

We're getting Celtic, Rangers and Gretna next season

[Boo_Boy]

didn't you hear?

We're getting Celtic, Rangers and Gretna next season

at-least if we get gretna rover's pitch wont be the worst in the EL anymore..:p

[CameramanConka]

Derry finally saw sense and moved the camera out of the main stand and now faces it.

Only for live matches do they do that, a temporary gantry is erected on the jungle side. For MNS we will be filming from the stand for the time being. Reason being a scaffold gantry works out too expensive.

[sligoman]

Heard our game with Drogs is the feature match next Monday, anyone hear different?

[CameramanConka]

Heard our game with Drogs is the feature match next Monday, anyone hear different?

Not from my end ;)

BTW what is the gantry like at Sligo. The producer has sussed this out but I'll hear nothing til later

[sligoman]

BTW what is the gantry like at Sligo. The producer has sussed this out but I'll hear nothing til laterWhat gantry?:D

Seriously though, we don't have a proper gantry at the moment, one is being built though and should be finished next week. Don't know what the set up will be like for this Saturday for the cameras.

[sligoman]

Didn't they say on MNS that it was Bohs-Pat's?Isn't that the live game tomorrow? Not feature match. Too slow, ya weren't quick enough at deleting:p

[stann]

Yep, just deleting that when you replied. That indeed is what they said. Read the bloody question stann! :D :o

[CameramanConka]

Heard our game with Drogs is the feature match next Monday, anyone hear different?


Sligo won't be the feature.

One feature will be on referee Dave McKeon :eek:

[Réiteoir]

Sligo won't be the feature.

One feature will be on referee Dave McKeon :eek:


That actually should be quite interesting if it's a feature following a referee around on his match night duties (before, during, and after the game)

[sligoman]

Sean Connor's part of the panel tonight I heard.

[Schumi]

Colm Foley, Sean Connor and Rico (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/).

[DmanDmythDledge]

Sean Connor's part of the panel tonight I heard.
Lets hope that Con Murphy has brought plenty of toilet roll with him tonight.

[Buile Shuibhne]

That actually should be quite interesting if it's a feature following a referee around on his match night duties (before, during, and after the game)


Referees are a necessary evil.

Lots of adjectives can be applied to refs - but never interesting

Unless you're a sad anorak referee yourself.

[Mouthpiece]

We should have had a sweep on how many shows it would have taken for Tom to get on screen.

24 minutes into show 2, well done my son.

[micls]

A bit strange seeing the highlights with the focus on the ref.

Interesting though

[Blue-Army]

The Bray highlights are awful quality.

[Soper]

Cobh match didn't look great, commentary was a bit...weird.

We need to move the gantry to the other stand. Would look so much better

[Blue-Army]

They only had to announce 5 first division results but they still managed to make a mistake....they said that we drew 1-1 with Galway.:mad:

[rambler14]

Whats the point of telling people to e-mail the show when they never read out any. I sent in an e-mail about the standard of refereeing and it was never read like every other one that was sent in.:mad:

During the Dave McKeown feature did anyone else notice Tom the Gom waiting at the referees door?:D:D

[geezer]

the lighting at all grounds bar dalymount and the brandywell is truly shocking. The Fai should be talkin to rovers, sligo,cobh and bray. Years looking for a quality highlights package all to fall short because of light bulbs? its mad Ted

[neville neville]

feck, forgot to watch it.

[The Lilywhites]

In the sixty second feature, one of the questions was "if you had to kiss one of your team-mates, who would it be?". What answer did she think she was going to get there?!?

[pineapple stu]

Whats the point of telling people to e-mail the show when they never read out any.
So they know how to improve things? The point of e-mailing them isn't necessarily to satisfy some ego-crusade by having your name said out on telly.

The ref segment was very good; nice to get an insight into why decisions were made rather than simply abusing the ref for them without understanding what happened.

60 seconds is still silly, although less silly when it's one of your players featured.

[sonofstan]

The McKeon feature was really good I thought; and it meant they could show what was their live game on Friday from a different angle; Fahey's goal was great - sorry they didn't get the melee from the Jodi side - I'm convinced I saw Ryan swing at Brennan, which means the lino saw it too.

[feo123]

feck, forgot to watch it.

tut tut
made me laugh seeing tom at dalymount...they should do a feature on him some week!
thought the referee thing was interesting, doubt they train 5 nights a week though.
the referee in the shams-cork game was a disgrace, stone wall penalty for rovers, and never a free kick for their goal. that one in 'sixty' is hot....they should have her on the panel every week.

[Blue-Army]

In the sixty second feature, one of the questions was "if you had to kiss one of your team-mates, who would it be?". What answer did she think she was going to get there?!?
Exactly...the woman doing the interview is useless...whats with the face she makes?

[micls]

the referee in the shams-cork game was a disgrace, stone wall penalty for rovers, and never a free kick for their goal.

The linesman was awful too. We should have had a peno in the second half too but they didnt show it.

Terrible all round, but evened out in the end I thought

[Schumi]

The ref segment was very good; nice to get an insight into why decisions were made rather than simply abusing the ref for them without understanding what happened.Abusing them when you do know what happened is much more rewarding. :)

I thought focusing on the ref during the game distracted from the highlights. There seemed to be more fouls featured than shots and there was no replay of the goal or the Crowe shot.

[ashbournebohs]

Wasnt it weird listening to mckeown briefing his assistants about a possible melee before the game and it practically pans out exactly like he said with the keeper running out.

[SPXcyan]

FECK!! didnt get to see it tonight :( me maaaa introduced me to her new bf! I was feckin itchin to run away for the show! feckin feckers anywayz!

Will the whole show be archived on RTÉ's website by any chance??

[pineapple stu]

I thought focusing on the ref during the game distracted from the highlights. There seemed to be more fouls featured than shots and there was no replay of the goal or the Crowe shot.
Going by the comments I was hearing during the Bray match, those pretty much were the highlights.

[rambler14]

the referee in the shams-cork game was a disgrace, stone wall penalty for rovers, and never a free kick for their goal. that one in 'sixty' is hot....they should have her on the panel every week.

The foul on Dessie Baker was laughable alright. But if you want to see a bad ref you should have seen the ref in Cobh on Saturday. There was a Galway defender who punched the ball out for a corner and in the 1st half one of the assistants flagged offside for a throw.

Jacqui Hurley does that sixty thing and shes not bad on the eye alright. One day she will get a response from a player where the question is "Who is your ideal women?" and the cheeky fecker will answer "you":D

[LeixlipRed]

Excellent show this week. Thought Mr. Foley done very well. Seems an intelligent chap. The ref feature was fantastic I thought. Very well made. All round, very good show

[feo123]

'im being told we must take a break now, so see you after....oh wait no we don't''
really should try and eradicate things like this, somethin similar happened last week, funny enough though
maybe they should try to get referees to ive interviews after the games at every match aswell, worth trying it anyway