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Schumi
10/03/2008, 11:45 AM
Does anyone know is it available to overseas viewers via rte/eircom/other on-line?Yes (http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0229/soccer_eloi.html).
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harps1954
10/03/2008, 11:55 AM
Two cameras in Finn Park as well.

jebus
10/03/2008, 12:22 PM
I hope to God they don't show Monaghan vs Limerick but I will say this to the people who feel the First Division will take the shine off of the Premier for our new sponsers and potential fans. Wake up ffs. Barstoolers aren't going to notice the difference between UCD and Derry playing infront of a few hundred fans and Longford and Fingal playing in front of a few hundred fans. The standard is **** compared to the normal coverage they get of the Premier and Champions League and it will be looked upon as an inferior product, whether the First Division is included or not

BohDiddley
10/03/2008, 12:29 PM
There are degrees of inferiority, and anyone who tries to claim that the standard is in any way comparable to EPL is off their rocker.
You can pick out unappetising fixtures all you want, but Premier Div. is, by definition, the best standard available in Irish football. An Irish football showcase on television should reflect that.

jebus
10/03/2008, 12:47 PM
There are degrees of inferiority, and anyone who tries to claim that the standard is in any way comparable to EPL is off their rocker.
You can pick out unappetising fixtures all you want, but Premier Div. is, by definition, the best standard available in Irish football. An Irish football showcase on television should reflect that.

Agreed, but then saying that the First Division will drag the Premier down is ludicrious unless you are talking about into a browner shade of ****. Two cameras filming a bunch of hasbeens and neverwillbes will never impress the barstoolers, so why not keep your fellow LoI fans happy?

eamo1
10/03/2008, 1:04 PM
i didnt see any cameras in terryland but then i was kinda early but when i looked up to check there definatly wasnt any,even with about 5 mins to k.o so doubt it.hopefully there was one,but just not in usual spot,as i seen an RTE van in a nearby hotel an hour before k.o.

eamo1
10/03/2008, 1:05 PM
i meant in a nearby hotel carpark of course,not nearby hotel:p.before any of ye jump on that.

rod1
10/03/2008, 1:44 PM
They should show the goals of the first division It'll only be fair for fans of first division clubs - if the barstoolers don't like the look of first division too bad - no reason fans of the smaller clubs should be inconveinced just to try to impress the barstoolers


I would have thought that it was the barstoolers are an audience that this programme is aimed at and as such, surely we are best served promoting our best product. Louis Copeland hardly puts his worst suits in his shop window

Sheridan
10/03/2008, 1:55 PM
I would have thought that it was the barstoolers are an audience that this programme is aimed at and as such, surely we are best served promoting our best product. Louis Copeland hardly puts his worst suits in his shop window
He doesn't have his mate Roddy p1ssing all over them either, though.

Dodge
10/03/2008, 2:34 PM
Are you Richard Scudamore?

The line was obviously being used in a devils advocate kind of way. (worst view possible type thing...)

mypost
10/03/2008, 2:39 PM
This is a purely functional programme, as part of the contract, aimed at getting fans to catch up with the weekend's events, 3 days after most games were played.

The barstoolers don't know and don't care. Every club's game should be covered.

rod1
10/03/2008, 3:03 PM
From what I have read in the various league preview magazines that came out last week, the FAI are looking at this programme as an opportunity to bring eloi football to people who would not normally consider it to interest new supporters and therefore it needs to to be the leagues best product and in all fairness, that is not the 1st dividion

Maroon 7
10/03/2008, 3:04 PM
i didnt see any cameras in terryland but then i was kinda early but when i looked up to check there definatly wasnt any,even with about 5 mins to k.o so doubt it.hopefully there was one,but just not in usual spot,as i seen an RTE van in a nearby hotel an hour before k.o.

There was a camera at the back of the new stand. I'm not sure why they even built that television gantry on top of the old stand because nobody ever seems to use it which is a pity as you don't get to see the new stand on telly.

jebus
10/03/2008, 3:22 PM
From what I have read in the various league preview magazines that came out last week, the FAI are looking at this programme as an opportunity to bring eloi football to people who would not normally consider it to interest new supporters and therefore it needs to to be the leagues best product and in all fairness, that is not the 1st dividion

Alright, I want you to watch this tonight, then at the weekend watch Match of the Day, The Premiership, La Liga roundup, or Sky's football league roundup and honestly tell me that it will bring fans over from those programs. If it's true that RTE sent out two cameras to each game then the production values are going to be atrocious in comparison, nevermind the football on show.

This program is for LoI fans, and should appeal to all LoI fans, not just the ones that are in the top flight. I can just imagine the outpour on here if First Division fans decided not to bother with it and the show was cancelled due to lack of interest

Dodge
10/03/2008, 3:50 PM
Alright, I want you to watch this tonight, then at the weekend watch Match of the Day, The Premiership, La Liga roundup, or Sky's football league roundup and honestly tell me that it will bring fans over from those programs. If it's true that RTE sent out two cameras to each game then the production values are going to be atrocious in comparison, nevermind the football on show.


And which of those shows show content from lower leagues? And if you think 2 broadcast quality cameras are atrocious, what would the camcorders clubs used last season look like?

This is the first week of somethign that could help the league. If it becomes a success, by all means look to expand but as it is, RTE agreeing to cover every premier game is a massive step up.

jebus
10/03/2008, 3:53 PM
And which of those shows show content from lower leagues? And if you think 2 broadcast quality cameras are atrocious, what would the camcorders clubs used last season look like?

I'd hope that Sky's Football League coverage doesn't exclude all non-Premier League clubs, and I said 2 quality cameras (read 2 angles) are atrocious in comparison to what Sky and BBC use for their highlight shows, which is what this MLS show is in direct competition with for the minds of the barstoolers.

Again, why alienate a lot of people that would watch the show for the sake of 3 minutes of goal hightlights?

mypost
10/03/2008, 4:00 PM
If RTE were really serious about developing the league, they would show 90 minutes of highlights every week on RTE2, in direct competition with MOTD. A prime time slot on Saturday evening. Putting it on 3 days later is useless, would they show an Ireland international 3 days after the game??

It provides an alternative to been force-fed Derby, Fulham, Portsmouth, and all the other teams in the PL that noone here cares about.

Sheridan
10/03/2008, 4:07 PM
Has anyone read the blurb on the RTÉ site? Con Murphy: "Viewers love the behind the scenes shots, whether it's on the bus, in the dressing rooms, as players arrive at the grounds, etc. Who hasn't watched Thierry Henry arrive at a stadium with his big headphones over his ears, and wondered 'what song is he listening to now?' Maybe when the eircom League players arrive we'll be able to ask them!"

What? I'm sorry, what? They need to fire whoever did their market research. Obvious from the promotional pics that they're aiming for the affable-eeejits-down-the-pub approach so beloved of the BBC; no desk and all clad in jeans. This doesn't bode well.

holidaysong
10/03/2008, 4:22 PM
I'll tune in tonight of course and see what they come up with. I can't say I'll be too pushed on catching it every week though if the First Division (and therefore my team) is ignored.. It really wouldn't kill them just to do a goals round up from the First Division!

passerrby
10/03/2008, 4:26 PM
I heard they had a camera at longford is that true

Longfordian
10/03/2008, 4:31 PM
I heard they had a camera at longford is that true

Didn't notice one, though they were apparently considering coming down to it.

sligoman
10/03/2008, 5:04 PM
which is what this MLS show is in direct competition with for the minds of the barstoolers.We're competing with US football now too?:eek:

south sligo red
10/03/2008, 5:15 PM
Didn't notice one, though they were apparently considering coming down to it.

Looks like they wont be showing any first division games. The following is from eircomloi.ie:

MNS kicks-off tonight
RTÉ Television’s brand new hour-long dedicated Irish soccer programme MNS - Monday Night Soccer is set to kick off this Monday night at 8.00pm on RTÉ Two. The weekly live prime time programme will see the FAI eircom League of Ireland set to enjoy its most comprehensive television coverage to date.

The first programme will see presenter Con Murphy joined by Roddy Collins, Damien Richardson and Tony O'Donoghue for reviews and analysis of the weekend’s eircom League action including highlights of:

Drogheda United v Shamrock Rovers
St Patrick’s Athletic v Sligo Rovers
Galway United v Bohemians
UCD v Derry City
Finn Harps v Cobh Ramblers
Cork City v Bray Wanderers

neutrino
10/03/2008, 5:18 PM
This is the first week of somethign that could help the league. If it becomes a success, by all means look to expand but as it is, RTE agreeing to cover every premier game is a massive step up.

Spot on. People crib because theirs no coverage and now that they get it start comparing it to the Premier League in England :rolleyes: Lets just see what the show looks like tonight and opinonate then instead of knocking it before it's even on.

bellavistaman
10/03/2008, 5:30 PM
cant wait to see to trip up, imagine cobh ramblers being the main thing on a highlight show, happy days.

sligoman
10/03/2008, 5:47 PM
Who said Cobh's game is the main highlight? Poor decision if true.

Sam_Heggy
10/03/2008, 5:59 PM
Who said Cobh's game is the main highlight? Poor decision if true.

Thats whats advertised afaik.
They chatted Cobh Shane Barret on his journey up and the feature game is Harps - Cobh.

bellavistaman
10/03/2008, 6:18 PM
Who said Cobh's game is the main highlight? Poor decision if true.
ye cant have the spotlight all the time jesus give us a break.
the hole thing their persuing is its the longest trip in loi and its the two new clubs, , first time in years a slight bit of media attention has being aimed our way can we just have it this week, rte wont show us now until 7 months down the line id say. :D

Raheny Red
10/03/2008, 6:23 PM
cant wait to see to trip up, imagine cobh ramblers being the main thing on a highlight show, happy days.

Lovely stuff, a 55 minute long highlight of a poxy bus journey from nowhere to nowhere and a 3 minute flash highlight of all the goals from the Premier. Can't wait!

LeixlipRed
10/03/2008, 6:27 PM
Has anyone read the blurb on the RTÉ site? Con Murphy: "Viewers love the behind the scenes shots, whether it's on the bus, in the dressing rooms, as players arrive at the grounds, etc. Who hasn't watched Thierry Henry arrive at a stadium with his big headphones over his ears, and wondered 'what song is he listening to now?' Maybe when the eircom League players arrive we'll be able to ask them!"

What? I'm sorry, what? They need to fire whoever did their market research. Obvious from the promotional pics that they're aiming for the affable-eeejits-down-the-pub approach so beloved of the BBC; no desk and all clad in jeans. This doesn't bode well.

Ffs, that's pathetic. If I wanna know what music a Shels player is listening to I can just ask them. These aren't superstars and if they think they can con even the most Neanderthal like of barstooler into thinking this is the Premiership Mark Two they must all be snorting Roddy's plaster

cornerflag
10/03/2008, 6:51 PM
they will probably have about 10 minutes of the Cobh feature and include the highlights of the game immediately after it. thats what the BBC would normally do when they feature FA cup highlights of non league clubs in the early rounds.

i dont see why there is so much negativity about the show already when it hasnt been aired yet. never judge a book by its cover. i personally hate all things RTE because i think they are fairly mediocre when it comes to producing live shows. but im still gonna give this a chance until after i watch it. They say they spent €40,000 on building the set. so i think they are trying to make a decent effort.

gonna make my cup of tea now and settle meself into the couch to watch it now shortly

Jofspring
10/03/2008, 7:04 PM
awh no, collins. off to a bad start already ha

Boo_Boy
10/03/2008, 7:04 PM
not to be critical but the music they play at the intro is terrible....

Réiteoir
10/03/2008, 7:11 PM
Good feature on Cobh - and the highlights they showed were pretty well put together.

Could have done with a couple of slo-mo replays of the goals and the offside decision

Réiteoir
10/03/2008, 7:12 PM
studio setup is something new though - i'll give them that - quite brave in trying something of a break from the norm

Boo_Boy
10/03/2008, 7:14 PM
quite brave in trying something of a break from the norm

the seats look quite nice..:D

centre mid
10/03/2008, 7:14 PM
looks slick so far. bit like a few lads sitting in a bar talking about football.

Réiteoir
10/03/2008, 7:14 PM
the seats look quite nice..:D

wonder if Roddy stretches out in the breaks and has a nice kip? :D

centre mid
10/03/2008, 7:17 PM
looked like galway deserved a point

superfrank
10/03/2008, 7:17 PM
I thought it was all fat under Fenn's shirt but he did well to hold off your man for his goal.

I like the show so far. The lads seem a bit more knowledgable then the TV3 goons. Rico's been pretty quiet, for once.

Réiteoir
10/03/2008, 7:17 PM
heh

MANAGERSCOPE

Is it like a periscope?

Blue-Army
10/03/2008, 7:18 PM
Neale Fenn had a lot to say didn't he? :D

Réiteoir
10/03/2008, 7:19 PM
I like the show so far. The lads seem a bit more knowledgable then the TV3 goons. Rico's been pretty quiet, for once.

Agreed - the highlight packages and intros are well put together - the analysis is pretty good.

A bright opening imo - let's see how the next 40 minutes pans out...

Réiteoir
10/03/2008, 7:19 PM
Neale Fenn had a lot to say didn't he? :D

think he was shocked at scoring after all this time :D

centre mid
10/03/2008, 7:19 PM
Is it just me or does the studio look a bit like the MOTD set up (sofas etc)

biscuit
10/03/2008, 7:20 PM
when talking about incidences in the game are they not going to show some replays?? :confused: good aside from that tho..nice and casual approach, quite like goals on sunday

Maroon 7
10/03/2008, 7:21 PM
when talking about incidences in the game are they not going to show some replays?? :confused: good aside from that tho..nice and casual approach, quite like goals on sunday

Yeah they could definitely do with showing replays of incidents they are discussing.

Réiteoir
10/03/2008, 7:23 PM
I've always found that Con Murphy (at least when he's been doing Friday Sportsnight) is open to suggestions and such via email.

Always had a reply from them when putting a question to them - could be worth emailing the show / Sports Department

Blue-Army
10/03/2008, 7:25 PM
Agreed - the highlight packages and intros are well put together - the analysis is pretty good.

yeah the intros have been brilliant so far....Rico looks a bit out of place though...He doesn't know where to look...He keeps staring into the camera!:eek:

Apart from the Fenn interview delay, everything has been good....Hope they put as much effort in every week. Its easily 10 times better than eircom league weekly...

centre mid
10/03/2008, 7:25 PM
Stephen Rice "Great effort from the 16 who played" no wonder they beat Drogheda