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OwlsFan
21/10/2007, 8:52 AM
The "try" ? Appeared to me his toe touched the line before he grounded the ball so he was in touch and when he grounded it his foot was above the line and not in touch. I am amused by the griping of nearly all the English media. They seemed to have forgotten 1966 and the ball that never crossed the line ;)

pete
21/10/2007, 11:44 AM
The "try" was an extremely close call but was early in the game so as not to be decisive. England got a penalty as advantage was being played so they just lost 2-4 points. The penalty that SA got last 3 points from seemed harsh but only 1 replay given on tv.

SA were the better side in a terrible final. Outhalfs kicked garryowens from the majority of possession - seems rugby has gone back 20 years.

England shown up when they had to chase the game.

shakermaker1982
21/10/2007, 2:58 PM
poor final but I've always said that if you keep the penalty count low against that current English side then they can do very little offensively. South Africa knew that and just soaked up the pressure with ease. Matfield was immense in the lineout and deservedly won MOM but I was really hoping the Boks would open up and cut loose........then again a lot was at stake so I can understand why they were careful.

Superhoops
21/10/2007, 5:59 PM
.....Matfield was immense in the lineout and deservedly won MOM......

Agree he deserved it, but why in rugby do they pick the MOM with 10 minutes still to play. They do the same in Rugby League.

Just supposing last night in the last 10 minutes, Steyn had scored a spectacular try, I am sure a lot of people would have thought he was MOM.

paul_oshea
21/10/2007, 7:50 PM
whats red and white and goes beep beep, beep beep , beep beep?

The England open top bus reversing back into the garage.

OwlsFan
22/10/2007, 1:15 PM
whats red and white and goes beep beep, beep beep , beep beep?

The England open top bus reversing back into the garage.

What's green and white and goes butt butt butt. The Irish bus making its way home after the group stage. I'd take the beep beep beep sound any day I am afraid :o.

Cymro
22/10/2007, 5:14 PM
White is 'considering' coaching us. I reckon that would be a great acquisition, especially considering how crap our recent results have been.

joeSoap
25/10/2007, 9:28 AM
Eddie O'Sullivan asked Graham Henry after Ireland failed to get into the Quarters... "Graham, What's the secret in selecting a great team?".


Pretty simple, replied Graham "I picked my players for their intelligence and asked them just one question".
"That simple?" said Eddie, "Yep", replied Graham, "pick one of my squad and see how he does".
Eddie thinks for a while then nominates Dan Carter. Graham calls him over & asks him,
"Who is the child of your Father & of your Mother who is not your Brother & is not your Sister?"
"Ah simple, Graham", says Dan, "it's me". "Well done Dan", says Graham, & Eddie is very impressed.


Eddie returns to the Hotel & wonders about the intelligence of his team. He calls in Brian O'Driscoll and says to asks him "Who is the child of your Father & of your Mother who is not your Brother & is not your Sister?"
Brian thinks & thinks & doesn't know the answer. "Can I think about it a bit more Eddie & I'll give you an answer tomorrow?".
"Of course", says Eddie, "you've got 24 hours. But it is very important that you come up with the answer".
Brian goes away, thinks as hard as he can, & then he calls in his team mates.


Paul O'Connell thought it might be his Grandpa but wasn't sure.
D'arcy was certain that it couldn't be anyone.
Peter Stringer refused to answer in case he was sacked for not knowing.
Isaac Boss owned up to having already failed the test and that's why he had to come to play for Ireland.
Andrew Trimble thought it would be an Uncle in England who had been adopted as a child.
Ronan O'Gara went into the fetal position.
The rest of the team wouldn't even hazard a guess.

20 hours later, Brian is very worried that he still has no answer with only 4 hours to go.

Eventually, Brian thinks: I know, I'll ring Keith Wood; he's bloody smart, and will surely know the answer.
He phones Keith. "Keith, tell me, who is the child of your Father & of your Mother who is not your Brother & is not your Sister?
Very simple says Keith, "it's me".
Of course, says Brian and rings Eddie. "Eddie", I've got the answer: "it's Keith Wood".
"No, you idiot", says Eddie. "It's Dan Carter."

Cymro
25/10/2007, 11:54 AM
Eddie O'Sullivan asked Graham Henry after Ireland failed to get into the Quarters... "Graham, What's the secret in selecting a great team?".


Pretty simple, replied Graham "I picked my players for their intelligence and asked them just one question".
"That simple?" said Eddie, "Yep", replied Graham, "pick one of my squad and see how he does".
Eddie thinks for a while then nominates Dan Carter. Graham calls him over & asks him,
"Who is the child of your Father & of your Mother who is not your Brother & is not your Sister?"
"Ah simple, Graham", says Dan, "it's me". "Well done Dan", says Graham, & Eddie is very impressed.


Eddie returns to the Hotel & wonders about the intelligence of his team. He calls in Brian O'Driscoll and says to asks him "Who is the child of your Father & of your Mother who is not your Brother & is not your Sister?"
Brian thinks & thinks & doesn't know the answer. "Can I think about it a bit more Eddie & I'll give you an answer tomorrow?".
"Of course", says Eddie, "you've got 24 hours. But it is very important that you come up with the answer".
Brian goes away, thinks as hard as he can, & then he calls in his team mates.


Paul O'Connell thought it might be his Grandpa but wasn't sure.
D'arcy was certain that it couldn't be anyone.
Peter Stringer refused to answer in case he was sacked for not knowing.
Isaac Boss owned up to having already failed the test and that's why he had to come to play for Ireland.
Andrew Trimble thought it would be an Uncle in England who had been adopted as a child.
Ronan O'Gara went into the fetal position.
The rest of the team wouldn't even hazard a guess.

20 hours later, Brian is very worried that he still has no answer with only 4 hours to go.

Eventually, Brian thinks: I know, I'll ring Keith Wood; he's bloody smart, and will surely know the answer.
He phones Keith. "Keith, tell me, who is the child of your Father & of your Mother who is not your Brother & is not your Sister?
Very simple says Keith, "it's me".
Of course, says Brian and rings Eddie. "Eddie", I've got the answer: "it's Keith Wood".
"No, you idiot", says Eddie. "It's Dan Carter."

Superb :D

endabob1
05/11/2007, 2:21 PM
I'm genuinely interested if criticism of England's maul tactics were fair or not.

Not sure if the criticism was fair or not but I the Boks did their homework on both the Pumas & England, they got the Pumas caught doing "Truck & Trailer" a few times and they got England with it too, Disengage from the maul with the ball carrier at the back, invariably the man at the front of the maul runs into the next opposition shirt and it’s then an offside penalty against the team with the ball. A clever move that was clearly planned by the Boks coaching team.