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Lim till i die
29/09/2006, 11:26 AM
Rovers. :)
Dundalk :) :eek:
Magicme
29/09/2006, 11:35 AM
Galway
Terry
29/09/2006, 12:19 PM
heart says galway, head says rovers
Terry
29/09/2006, 12:32 PM
talk from supporters, no players thank god. Cousins has them 100% focused
next weeks match in terryland will be very interesting now after last nights result. Have to shout for cobh to get something out of there match tonight against dundalk too. Also, I hope athlone get the draw against rovers in the cup and give them an even bigger fixture congestion headache!
Conor H/GUFC/other tribesmen out there
Christ that was some win last night for you lot (5-1 away to Limerick) , I was cursing errortel when it came up you equalised, then 2-1, then 5-1, but fair is fair that was a brilliant result, so well done, esp 4 goals in last 10 mins was it. Safe to say its down to 3 teams now ?
You can imagine my relief to get a text this afternoon to hear we beat Cobh 3-2 away, even sweeter as we have an appaling record down there. I heard our team flew down, even better it actually worked out cheaper than train/coach - unreal
We have Kildare away next, Who are Galway playing next week
Countdown to our Terryland meeting, Oct ?
Ps Was over in Galway for a stag in May, had a good chat with Nick Leeson about Eircom lge/galways/dlk etc - lovely guy - said it was the first time anyone ever spoke to him and didnt mention Barings !
Conor H
30/09/2006, 6:07 PM
UTD are palying Rovers next week!!Terryland Park showdown-a match that will go along way to deciding the title!
Yesterday was phenomenal and it will ensure a sell out against Rovers nest week but we all know our match against yee is just as big aswell!Will Dundalk bring many down do ya think?
From looking at yere forum some of yere fans think Rovers are yere main threat-maybe they've forgotten who's actually top of the league and who's beaten Rovers aswell!Game very much on though!
mypost
30/09/2006, 8:41 PM
UTD are palying Rovers next week!!Terryland Park showdown-a match that will go along way to deciding the title!
From looking at yere forum some of yere fans think Rovers are yere main threat-maybe they've forgotten who's actually top of the league and who's beaten Rovers aswell!
It's easy to be top when you've played 3 more games than your rivals, and the benefit of FAI charity. :rolleyes:
Afaik, the match next week is Game 30 of 36, not 36 of 36. Our next 3 games are home ones after Friday night's trip to Galway. The title will be decided in November.
Didnt realsie you were playing orvers next week !!
For our game, there`ll be the usual travel club bus who go to every single away game, and the younger set of fans who stand at the former shed side of oriel, they run busses to bigger away game, prob more will go in cars, the odd weekener groups, maybe 100/150, hard to know.
I was one of those on our forum who saw rovers as our (only) threat, i completely stand corrected now, its clearly a 3 horse race, both games you have in terryland v us and rovers are going to have a massive say on who comes first. I have to say its no longer advatange Rovers due away win form of us and yourselves. Ok they may have games in hand, but you got to win them, as for their 3 pts, they are long gone, no chance they`ll get those back. But one thing they do have is late recovery, tonight for eg i was just waiting for them to equalise v Athlone, then they got the winner..........poor concentration by athlone, real pity as a semi final for them would have been a greta boost to the town.
Back to the first div title, Its going to be close, thats for sure, but as i`ve said before, its a much improved first div standard this year, football much better to watch, fans beneift overall, no point having just one strong team.
Not sure what result to hope for next week with you and rovers !!
mypost
01/10/2006, 5:26 AM
its clearly a 3 horse race, both games you have in terryland v us and rovers are going to have a massive say on who comes first. I have to say its no longer advatange Rovers due away win form of us and yourselves. Ok they may have games in hand, but you got to win them.
The league will be decided over 36 games; not 1, not 2, not 9, not 18, but 36 games, of which with a three-month long unbeaten record, 3 games in hand on our competitors, and 3 points pending this season, we are in the best position to win it.
2 games in hand, and in fairness I'd rather the points on the board than the games in hand. Seriously doubt that they will go back on the 3 points deduction as well.
Do ye think many of ye will make the journey down on friday? Will ye fill yer allocation of 400 tickets? If we beat ye friday, we will be six points ahead, which virtually cancels out the 2 games in hand ye have
Do ye think many of ye will make the journey down on friday? Will ye fill yer allocation of 400 tickets?
I'd be surprised if we don't. Pity the game's not on Saturday, we would've got double that
Conor H
01/10/2006, 2:31 PM
Stupid post."pity it's not on a Friday"...Sure every club will bring more fans on a Saturday!Game is on Friday and proper order!
Conor H
01/10/2006, 2:58 PM
No you idiot my point was there's no point even hoping for the game to be moved to a Saturday just so yee can bring a few more fans.Rovers requested the game be changed last time to a Saturday so they could bring more fans.Why should or would we?That was my point!:rolleyes:
mypost
01/10/2006, 3:26 PM
2 games in hand, and in fairness I'd rather the points on the board than the games in hand.
Another game has been postponed following the cup win last night, most likely Mons at home, so it's 3 games in hand, all at home in Fortress Tolka, so effectively a 9-point banker. We will finally have our chance to start collecting them after the trip to Galway.
Conor H
01/10/2006, 3:28 PM
no-one is saying you should, but you could double the crowd if it was a saturday. just dont come to us whining when next you are in money troubles... we tried our best to bring a big crowd down. you do understand the concept of 'bigger gate reciepts'?
Money trouble??Whining to Rovers fans??
Too many pints in Athlone?:confused:
JC_GUFC
01/10/2006, 4:56 PM
no-one is saying you should, but you could double the crowd if it was a saturday. just dont come to us whining when next you are in money troubles... we tried our best to bring a big crowd down. you do understand the concept of 'bigger gate reciepts'?
The game is pretty sure to sell out anyway so it won't actually make any difference to the crowd that it's on Friday.
And mypost if I recall correctly earlier in the season you predicted that you'd be 9 points ahead with a game in hand when you'd come down to Terryland this season.
I think Dundalk's result was the best of the weekend as they have now played both Rovers & Cobh in this series, whereas United have only played Monaghan & Limerick. Of course having the 2 big games at home is a huge advantage for United.
It's really a fascinating run-in and last night's cup game showed that the standard isn't as bad as most people think.
latest odds from paddy power
Rovers 6/5 (10/11)
Galway 15/8 (2/1)
Dundalk 2/1 (5/2)
A point dlk/gal/rovs fans all seem to be agreeing on is the improved standard this season, i`d also go with the improved atendances too in the first div, we`ve been getting avg 1,500 per home game for last 3 mths, with about 3,500 (max) for rovers game last week. The galway v rovs game next weekend should be the biggest yet in the division, 4 or 5,000 ?
Jc maybe our result was the best of the weekend, but i still thought your score was the most impressive esp after 1-0 down, I see you have to visit Donegal in a few weeks time, always tricky, so have we but not til last game of season, harps will hopefully be going through the motions then.
And Rovers fans, what is it about those late goals, you did same to us in Tolka on day 1, equalised in 80th min and got winner in 92th, then in oriel last week, an equaliser with 7 mins to go, then again that was well deserved.
not to mention cobh, athlone etc etc
Whoever wins this will divison will do so by a point, maybe 2, def no more than that. Well unless one or two of the 3 collapses, and that seems very unlikely at the minute.
3 very good sides, all more than capable of winning the title.
A point dlk/gal/rovs fans all seem to be agreeing on is the improved standard this season
If that's the improved standard......:eek:
I don't have many memories of the games even between the top teams of being remotely good..
Conor H
01/10/2006, 6:49 PM
Good post oriel.Agree on nearly everything!Has there been such a close 1st Divison in years?I remember the year Harps won in 04' it was awful close between themselves,UCD and Bray.Bray fell off but it was extremely close but was it as close?
If it goes down to the last game of the season GUFC have the easiest game definitely.
Kilkenny v GUFC
Harps v Dundalk
Cobh v Rovers
Still i'd expect all 3 to win those games.
dfx - thats a bit harsh
I cant talk for any rovs/gal games, but defintely the first half of our game v you last week was pretty good in oriel, well until the lights and storm ruined the contest. The otehr two were ok, first game of season not bad, the 0-0 draw in tolka - a bore.
I`ve only seen us play Galway once this year, our 1-0 win in oriel in june i think, very clsoe affair which we just deserved to win, skin of our teeth, but again galway looked avery organsied team
Conor - if all 3 are in contention on last w.e, never mind about the tough games thats 3 superb satuday nights away for the boys ! You got the best one in Kilkenny, Balybofey always a good laugh, cant comment re Cobh, never been.
I think its a disgrace the loack of coverage the three clubs are getting and the first division this year, ok you might say i`m only saying that as we`re in it, but the excitement and football is far better than like of reports of total paint drying events like bray v wat`d, and any game involving longford etc
I think you can maybe say entertaining, but still not good. Rovers were all over the place last week in the first half, but the wind has to be taken into consideration for that. There's still far too much hoofball, simple passes astray - you know the simple things. That's not good football. The two homes games against Galway were close with only one goal, but the football on display was awful.
Having said that though, Bray, Waterford, Longford, UCD (when I've seen them, before I berated) and sometimes Pats are at that type of football as well, Galway, Rovers and Dundalk would probably hold their own in the Premier.
But the games still aren't necessarily good.
JC_GUFC
01/10/2006, 7:17 PM
The games aren't good but they're far better than they were over the last few seasons. Pat Scully's brand of football is very much based around not conceding and that has been very effective in this division and so Rovers games tend to be pretty dull affairs.
All the games between the top clubs have been very tight and although you may find it hard to believe Kilkenny & Monaghan haven't been all that bad compared to the bottom sides in Division 1 in previous years!
The league is more exciting because the 3 teams are pushing each other to get better, whoever finishes top will deserve it. Conor, I wasn't having a go re the game on friday night, just saying that from a Rovers perspective there would've been more on a Sat night. If you imagine a scenario where Galway were mid table with nothing to play for, then I'm sure you would've been only too glad to accept another 4k at the gate from us. As it is you're gonna get a big home gate so maybe it's a case of the fewer of us that travel, the better for Galway and as a home fan that's fair enough
this game has a limit of 3500 no matter as part of the ground is closed off as the new stand will be starting soon so we are only obliged to let 350 visiting fans in to our home games i think we sent rovers 400 so even if it was sat night only 350-400 rovers will be allowed in as the rest of the tickets will be given to locals
That's fair enough, cheers
Conor H
01/10/2006, 8:06 PM
Hoopy totally agree sorry for the misunderstanding.Do ya reckon yee might surpass yere allocation?
DmanDmythDledge
01/10/2006, 9:43 PM
Good post oriel.Agree on nearly everything!Has there been such a close 1st Divison in years?I remember the year Harps won in 04' it was awful close between themselves,UCD and Bray.Bray fell off but it was extremely close but was it as close?
2 points between Harps and UCD in 04. When down to the wire. UCD went up to Ballybofey in the run-in and got a victory which brought down to the last game.
geezer
01/10/2006, 10:28 PM
gufc played on sat a few weeks ago becuase they were in cobh midweek and the attendance plummetted by half. in fact the next home game on a friday against mons had over double the crowd of the sat nite. We have been marketing "friday night football" for over 4 years now and despite connaught rugby trying to move in on friday nights less than a mile away Utd are still holding their own. Sat for whatever reason is a disaster
Hoopy totally agree sorry for the misunderstanding.Do ya reckon yee might surpass yere allocation?
Its a distinct possibility as most Hoops don't know about the limited capacity and any chance of an overnighter in Galway is always welcome:D
Its a distinct possibility as most Hoops don't know about the limited capacity and any chance of an overnighter in Galway is always welcome:D
Well it would be a good idea to tell them as tickets will not be on sale at the grounds on matchday according to www.galwayunitedfc.ie
Magicme
02/10/2006, 8:22 AM
Another game has been postponed following the cup win last night, most likely Mons at home, so it's 3 games in hand, all at home in Fortress Tolka, so effectively a 9-point banker. We will finally have our chance to start collecting them after the trip to Galway.
I hope it is our game coz have a Hen weekend in Mayo starting the friday nite and would hate to miss the match. A midweek fixture suits me as mcuh as a weekend one.
NY Hoop
02/10/2006, 11:33 AM
latest odds from paddy power
Rovers 6/5 (10/11)
Galway 15/8 (2/1)
Dundalk 2/1 (5/2)
A point dlk/gal/rovs fans all seem to be agreeing on is the improved standard this season, i`d also go with the improved atendances too in the first div, we`ve been getting avg 1,500 per home game for last 3 mths, with about 3,500 (max) for rovers game last week. The galway v rovs game next weekend should be the biggest yet in the division, 4 or 5,000 ?
Jc maybe our result was the best of the weekend, but i still thought your score was the most impressive esp after 1-0 down, I see you have to visit Donegal in a few weeks time, always tricky, so have we but not til last game of season, harps will hopefully be going through the motions then.
And Rovers fans, what is it about those late goals, you did same to us in Tolka on day 1, equalised in 80th min and got winner in 92th, then in oriel last week, an equaliser with 7 mins to go, then again that was well deserved.
not to mention cobh, athlone etc etc
Whoever wins this will divison will do so by a point, maybe 2, def no more than that. Well unless one or two of the 3 collapses, and that seems very unlikely at the minute.
3 very good sides, all more than capable of winning the title.
Last minute winners have come because we are the fittest team in the league. We have been done numerous times in the past with not concentrating in the last few minutes. Play to the final whistle.
Conor H the point we're making is that if the game was saturday night it makes it easier for away fans to travel. Same in reverse. I've always said that only derbies should be played on fridays. But as you say friday night is now ingrained in Galway and its a **** lot better than playing on stupid thursdays anyway.
The increased crowds in the division is down to the fact that we're in it.
KOH
Conor H
02/10/2006, 1:09 PM
NY Hoop would you prefer if Rovers played at home on A Saturday night?Or should all games in Dublin be on a Friday?Personally i agree about Saturday's but i really don't mind Friday's either.Agree on Thursday's though-terrible night.
sadloserkid
02/10/2006, 1:11 PM
Agree on Thursday's though-terrible night.
So take note Dundalk! :)
mypost
02/10/2006, 1:55 PM
NY Hoop would you prefer if Rovers played at home on A Saturday night?Or should all games in Dublin be on a Friday?Personally i agree about Saturday's but i really don't mind Friday's either.Agree on Thursday's though-terrible night.
All games should be on Saturday nights, period.
Magicme
02/10/2006, 8:37 PM
No saturdays are a dreadful nite to have them. It means you cant go anywhere with your kids/family without having to hurry back and most parties etc are on sat nites so I know I would find it harder to fit football in on a sat nite. Also too many people hit the pub to watch Premiership games and would be unlikely to leave their stools to go to a match. Fridays are the best day.
GalwayFrancis
02/10/2006, 9:12 PM
All games should be on Saturday nights, period.
nope, i disagree. fridays work much better in galway - ya, i hear what your saying, more away fans on a sat night but galway for example get way more fans on friday night, if it was up to me, id have all the games on friday night in both divisions and then you could have a decent tv/radio show to cover them all, similar to soccer saturday on sky
TommyT
02/10/2006, 9:32 PM
1) I'd imagine the increase in crowds compared to other years is down both t the fact we're in it and none of the Dublin area's ugly sisters (Farm Bray UCD) are. Actually throw in the fact that the Dundah and Gaaalway have decent supports and are going well too.
2)Used to dislike Friday's but they seem to work better now. Especially with the summer football. The rule that allows Thursday's should be changed. Last day of season should always be a Sunday to allow fans to travel to deciders etc
3)We're unlikely to sell out our allocation in Galway possibly due to fatigue with it being the third away game in a week.
4) Aren't Connacht at home to Ulster on Friday. Would be nice for a First Div game to get a bigger crowd on the same night in the same city.
Paddyfield
02/10/2006, 9:47 PM
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4) Aren't Connacht at home to Ulster on Friday. Would be nice for a First Div game to get a bigger crowd on the same night in the same city.
Yeah. Last week, Connacht Rugby had 3,200 at their game. Terryland will def have a bigger crowd that the rugger and I'd bet that they will only get half of that on Friday. Connacht games KO at 6.30pm to facilitate the greyhounds at the same venue at 8pm. It's a pity that they changed from Sat to Friday.
mypost
05/10/2006, 2:53 AM
We're unlikely to sell out our allocation in Galway possibly due to fatigue with it being the third away game in a week...
...or the fact it's on Friday night. We would easily sell out our allocation if it was on a real football night, like Saturday night.
Having everyone play simultaneously on Saturday nights, would bring order and discipline to the fixtures, marketing potential, and bigger crowds. No "Thursday/Friday/Saturday nights suits us" excuses. It's hard to market a league when all the games are played at wonky ko times on different nights.
Our away support has considerably increased when we've gone to Cobh, Harps, and Athlone, and later on, Kilkenny on Saturdays. Do that for 22 clubs, market the night in the local/national media every week, and see the league flourish, where everyone benefits.
That's too easy to do for some people however. :rolleyes:
dapman1
05/10/2006, 10:24 AM
Ok time to get back on topic again. Forcasts please for the upcoming fixtures, mine are in brackets:
06 October 2006
Monaghan United (1) - Limerick FC (2) 8:00
Athlone Town (1) - Cobh Ramblers (2) 7:45
Galway United (2) - Shamrock Rovers (1)7:45
07 October 2006
Kildare County (2)- Dundalk (1) 3.00 - note the time change
Kilkenny City (0) - Finn Harps (2) 3:30
Up The Town
05/10/2006, 11:08 AM
think you r being a bit biased there but eh we all love our own teams and we havent got that good of a record against yourselves in kildare. But i think we will win this win UP THE LILYWHITES (Not Kildare)
06 October 2006
Monaghan United (1) - Limerick FC (1)
Athlone Town (1) - Cobh Ramblers (2)
Galway United (1) - Shamrock Rovers (1)
07 October 2006
Kildare County (1)- Dundalk (3) :ball: :ball: :ball:
Kilkenny City (0) - Finn Harps (2)
dapman1
05/10/2006, 7:09 PM
1:3......Fair enough, I think it will be close, but if we do win then I think that you are finished for another year.
if we do win then I think that you are finished for another year.
not a notion, the league will go down to the final week with all of the top 3 still in contention. Anyway, Dundalk will win the match, they do afterall have a great away record this year.
mypost
05/10/2006, 7:33 PM
The table will look false until our games in hand have been played, and until the points deduction is overturned. :ball:
JC_GUFC
05/10/2006, 7:43 PM
The table will look false until our games in hand have been played, and until the points deduction is overturned. :ball:
Fu**ing hell - would you give it a rest with the games in hand! WE KNOW!
I'd predict this weekend's results to be:
Monaghan 2 Limerick 0
United 1 Rovers 0
Athlone 2 Cobh 1
Kildare 1 Dundalk 3
Kilkenny 0 Finn Harps x, where x>0 and probably in the region of 4
If these results happen you can come on here and tell us that with you games in hand you'd be level with Dundalk and Galway, forgetting the fact that you still have to win them, unlike your game in hand you had at home against Limerick.
mypost
05/10/2006, 7:51 PM
would you give it a rest with the games in hand!
you still have to win them, unlike your game in hand you had at home against Limerick...
...which finally is on Monday.
With our formidable home record, we should win at least two, if not the three of the games in hand. If Galway had played the same amount of games as us, and the FAI not played the Santa in August, we would be almost out of sight by now.
JC_GUFC
05/10/2006, 7:56 PM
What 6 points ahead?! And you're playing us tomorrow!
I believe we're doing a deal that if under 12s come with ticket holding adults they get in free tomorrow.
Sounds like it's your lucky day! :p
Conor H
05/10/2006, 10:05 PM
...which finally is on Monday.
With our formidable home record, we should win at least two, if not the three of the games in hand. If Galway had played the same amount of games as us, and the FAI not played the Santa in August, we would be almost out of sight by now.
Why do you keep blaming the FAI?
I wonder if Rovers maybe,just maybe, didn't play a suspended player would they have been deducted 3 points?No.
Get over it yere down 3 points ye have 50 points-not 56.It's whats points on the scoreboard that counts.
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