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swift
22/12/2006, 2:09 AM
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Originally Posted by swinfordfc
Swinford didn't get promoted cause they were not good enough swift full stop. so your saying its ok for celtic to sign who they want - ye are throwing alot of money about the place at present - ye sign neary and also tried to sign gaughan but he went back playing gaa for knockmore, its easy to win a title when you get the best players from around the county and outside it, remember this is ye first title since 2001 long time to be waiting for the supposing best team in mayo wont you think, now tell me this - do you think snugboro will stay up with flynn, duffy and collins gone? i tell you the answer for you , they havent a hope! 3 big players gone from they just to served dykes. dykes is after one thing - to win the FAI Junior Cup cause celtic are mad that westport won it before them and that erris had won a national title as well (under 18 youths cup) and celtic have won NONE. now put your toys back in your cot

So your axe to grind is the fact that you dont like clubs signing players from other clubs. Is the onus not on the player to be big enough to say no to the move. Even the dogs on the street know **MOD EDIT:LEAVE IT OUT** but yet nearly everyone he asks to sign for Celtic ends up signing. You see players as a rule of thumb like to look back on their career and say what they've won and if they feel that they have a better chance at Celtic then so be it. Now some of his signings have been strange to say the least judging by the players he told to go but the signings of players from other clubs is nothing new to the Mayo league. If I were to mention Manulla, as they were the biggest club to practice this but because its Celtic here people are bleating on about it. In fairness Celtic did go about some of these in an underhand way but it still went on before Dykes' arrival. Futhermore to your statment that the Superleague is a joke because of Celtic is a joke in itself. There are only the Top Four that really push each other every year so wheres the other clubs and that in itself is rare. Ballyheane start off every year like a house on fire and this year they were nearly relegated, Manulla who have some gifted players can throw a game and get away with it no problem, and where we have a Premier Division where the fifth placed team can get promoted so I dont think its fair that you can lay all the blame at our door. Personally I dont have a problem with players that want to better themselves and play at a good standard but according to you and your buddy thats wrong
By the way Reno I was just fighting my corner that was on the other site

So now swinford after all what you've said about Celtic about signing players you actually agree with clubs doing this. What hymn sheet will you be signing from next week

swift
22/12/2006, 2:15 AM
Just a little note that Fintan McHale could be taking over Celtics B team next season and I've heard that he wants to bring back the players that were discarded under this regime and that means the Super League winning team of 2001!!!!!!!!!! mmmmmmmmmmmmmm now thats sound tasty

the grape vine
22/12/2006, 8:26 AM
Just a little note that Fintan McHale could be taking over Celtics B team next season and I've heard that he wants to bring back the players that were discarded under this regime and that means the Super League winning team of 2001!!!!!!!!!! mmmmmmmmmmmmmm now thats sound tasty

ya,i heard something about that last nite,could be interesting surely !!

pixiehead
22/12/2006, 3:30 PM
The reason I'm saying yes to clubs should be


They're only players I can think of and you can be sure the situation is replicated down the leagues. Its not the fault of any of these clubs that guys want to sign for them, but there can be blame for clubs that lads are leaving. Pixiehead if Snugboro were reduced to just players in the Snugboro catchment area ye would not be in the Super League. Boundaries always will be loose

I never said a Club should have players from the catchment area ONLY. If that was the case Snugboro would be Goosed. But they have a lot of players from town that have been with them for a few years and are dedicated and do there bit bit for the club and there part of the "Family". What i am saying is that if you start a type of trend of players who just want to better them selfs then whats going to happen to clubs.Who'll get involved in underage?? Who'll do fundraising?? Who'll get involved in committee ect ect. I can guarentee you players who are only interested in them selfs wont. And the more of them you create the worse for club structure. We all have to remember here WE ARE NOT PROFFESIONAL :mad:

thumbtack
22/12/2006, 3:33 PM
I think whatever celtic are doing is ok seen as they`re not breaking any laws. And if ye don`t like what they`re doing ye should beat them on the field like football is supposed to be.

Thunderblaster
22/12/2006, 5:09 PM
I'm voting YES!!

Cloggs
22/12/2006, 10:00 PM
wHY DONT WE GET A QUICK INSIGHT INTO THE GENERAL FEELING ABOUT BRINGING IN OUT SIDE PLAYERS NOT JUST TO CELTIC BUT ALL CLUBS.
iF YOU ARE IN FAVOUR SIMPLY POST YES
iF YOU ARE NOT SIMPLY VOTE NO
iLL COUNT UP THE VOTES AT THE END AND POST THEM UP. (IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE!!!;)

to be honest i wouldn't see any problem with a player moving from one club to another BUT they'd have to be willing to muck in with the rest of the team when it comes to the likes of fundraising and helping in the running of undreage setups and the likes.in my opinion i think that the game in mayo is suffering because there are far too many 'mercenary' type players who are simply moving from one club to another.the general interest in the league this past season has waned substantially and i think that the moving of players has contributed to this.i've seen in our own club where players have come in from other clubs and have been greeted with open arms by all on the team,only for the same players to turn around and do nothing for the club,resulting in the local lads becoming disgruntled, what with not getting a game despite the fact that they might be doing their bit for the club. so to make a long story even longer my vote would be yes (but with reservations!!)

Thunderblaster
22/12/2006, 11:09 PM
they'd have to be willing to muck in with the rest of the team when it comes to the likes of fundraising and helping in the running of undreage setups and the likes.

It can be difficult to get the club regulars out to fundraise, never mind the players who join from elsewhere!!:eek: Helping with underage set ups, look at Westport between players and ex-players, the track record there is pathetic-disgracefully pathetic. As far as helping the club out, a lot of players washed their hands off the club once they hung up their boots, including some great players.

Cloggs
23/12/2006, 9:50 AM
It can be difficult to get the club regulars out to fundraise, never mind the players who join from elsewhere!!:eek: Helping with underage set ups, look at Westport between players and ex-players, the track record there is pathetic-disgracefully pathetic. As far as helping the club out, a lot of players washed their hands off the club once they hung up their boots, including some great players.

you have a very valid point in what you're saying about the westport underage set-up but did they not have some form of underage success when the likes of joe lawless and gerry mcgloughlin,among others were playing?so surely whoever was looking after them at that stage must have been doing something right?as they have gone on to do very well for the junior side,with joe representing ireland at junior level.i'm not too sure (maybe proud cove could verify or discount this for me)but didn't their under 16 team do pretty well this past season?
its a real shame however that some of the retired players of clubs-particularly the more recently retired ones, seem to simply turn their backs on a club that they once loved (or possibly still do??)its increasingly difficult for a club to get any form of help from any of the players involved(those playing) in the runnung of the club let alone trying to get past players to help out.:(

pixiehead
25/12/2006, 5:19 PM
you have a very valid point in what you're saying about the westport underage set-up but did they not have some form of underage success when the likes of joe lawless and gerry mcgloughlin,among others were playing?so surely whoever was looking after them at that stage must have been doing something right?as they have gone on to do very well for the junior side,with joe representing ireland at junior level.i'm not too sure (maybe proud cove could verify or discount this for me)but didn't their under 16 team do pretty well this past season?
its a real shame however that some of the retired players of clubs-particularly the more recently retired ones, seem to simply turn their backs on a club that they once loved (or possibly still do??)its increasingly difficult for a club to get any form of help from any of the players involved(those playing) in the runnung of the club let alone trying to get past players to help out.:(

This is my whole point totally. A certain club in Mayo will not let players sign this season unless they have sold 5 €50 lotto tickets.Now thats the way to deal with them and i can guarentee that alot more clubs will follow suit when they find themselfs in financial hot water. Players have to remember that they are not just part of a team..... they are part of a club!!!!:cool:

pixiehead
25/12/2006, 5:25 PM
6 votes for yes so far and 2 for No :mad:

Closing Time
28/12/2006, 1:06 PM
I'm voting Yes.

According to some peoples arguement I shouldn't be playing for Snugboro.
I played Celtic U-11 to U-16, Snugboro U-16 to Junior. But I have lived a stones throw away from Celtic Park for the most part of my life. But I wouldn't go back to Celtic. Their attitude stinks.(And they wouldn't take me!)

What to you mean by their attitude stinks. I would say Celtic would take anyone for their A, B & C team.

Closing Time
28/12/2006, 1:11 PM
It can be difficult to get the club regulars out to fundraise, never mind the players who join from elsewhere!!:eek: Helping with underage set ups, look at Westport between players and ex-players, the track record there is pathetic-disgracefully pathetic. As far as helping the club out, a lot of players washed their hands off the club once they hung up their boots, including some great players.

The above quote is spot on. Alot of players these days think that the club should be honored for them to play for their team.It is harder and harder to get football people involved with youth teams. Some parents are great but the majority are coming form a GAA background and would not have the best insight into the AF game.

Closing Time
28/12/2006, 1:12 PM
6 votes for yes so far and 2 for No :mad:

I would vote yes. 7 -2

Closing Time
28/12/2006, 1:18 PM
My vote is also yes

players should be allowed to move from club to club as they only sign a yearly contract - then they free agents!! :D

Is this the same person that has gone on about Celtic signing outside palyers for the last year. Is it OK for everyone to bring in players as long it is not Celtic. Is it the case that Celtic leads and everyone else follows?

Closing Time
28/12/2006, 1:22 PM
life in Westport. Father, Tony, played soccer for United and earlier for Crusaders. All his family are Westport people and would be regarded as auld stock. Paul Fitz is a covey, end of story.

Are you kidding us. I suppose Peter Burke spend the weekend in Westport this year and is now considered auld stock not to mention the Mayo manager.

Proud cove
28/12/2006, 7:11 PM
up alongside the Camerons, Lovejoy, Danny Scahill and Joe Kelly out the Quay and all his uncles and grandmother live in the town. As far as Peter Burke and Michael Wallace are concerned, my understanding is that both made the first moves to join Westport United. I don't know what precipitated their decisions to seek fresh pastures but as someone posted here some weeks ago in relation to players moving to Celtic, if Peter Burke didn't want to play for our club we couldn't force him to.

Thunderblaster
29/12/2006, 9:51 AM
up alongside the Camerons, Lovejoy, Danny Scahill and Joe Kelly out the Quay and all his uncles and grandmother live in the town. As far as Peter Burke and Michael Wallace are concerned, my understanding is that both made the first moves to join Westport United. I don't know what precipitated their decisions to seek fresh pastures but as someone posted here some weeks ago in relation to players moving to Celtic, if Peter Burke didn't want to play for our club we couldn't force him to.

Same with any other footballer. As far as Westport United is concerned, only the best will do!!:D

Thunderblaster
30/12/2006, 11:20 AM
I got an SMS from MF last night telling me that Kieran Murphy is set to become manager of Ballyheane. Any truth to that story?:confused:

pixiehead
31/12/2006, 4:09 PM
I got an SMS from MF last night telling me that Kieran Murphy is set to become manager of Ballyheane. Any truth to that story?:confused:

Ya im 99% sure hes on his way out there!! Good Luck :rolleyes:

renovater
31/12/2006, 5:23 PM
[QUOTE=Thunderblaster;597109]I got an SMS from MF last night telling me that Kieran Murphy is set to become manager of Ballyheane. Any truth to that story?:confused:[/QUOTE
Its that time on year whem poeple get itchy feet.or may be two much wine,
I have heard from good source that K. Murhpy has decided to go to Ballyheane.
Also I believe from the same source that P Bourke has join Westport, I have been told the payments is the reason for moving, he has been seen in the local watering holes on a round Westport lately,feeling his new suroundins out.
well good luck to him, one can only think that junior football is now the new money spinner away from the tax man?:ball: :

renovater
31/12/2006, 5:43 PM
As long the rules of the league are up held, you can not prevent any player who wishes to move, providing its for the right reason and not for monetary gain.
Most cases, but must stress not all cases are for monnies,but some are, for reasons of where there is disagreement which can't be sorted out between player and club.
I would be for fredom of movement of players and who ever wishes to leave any club for a fresh challenge.

Proud cove
31/12/2006, 6:00 PM
to P Bourke joining Westport: 'I have been told the payments is the reason for moving, he has been seen in the local watering holes on a round Westport lately,feeling his new suroundins out.'

pixiehead
01/01/2007, 4:30 PM
[QUOTE=Thunderblaster;597109]I got an SMS from MF last night telling me that Kieran Murphy is set to become manager of Ballyheane. Any truth to that story?:confused:[/QUOTE
Its that time on year whem poeple get itchy feet.or may be two much wine,
I have heard from good source that K. Murhpy has decided to go to Ballyheane.
Also I believe from the same source that P Bourke has join Westport, I have been told the payments is the reason for moving, he has been seen in the local watering holes on a round Westport lately,feeling his new suroundins out.
well good luck to him, one can only think that junior football is now the new money spinner away from the tax man?:ball: :

Obviously you are saying here that bourke will receive Cash. Can you just spit these things out instead of beating round the bush!!! :confused:

Closed Account
02/01/2007, 2:13 PM
Ever think of getting a secretary or something to help you write the drivel you come out with Reno? Or an interpretor. Seriously.

Cloggs
02/01/2007, 7:33 PM
a very happy new year to you all!!
hopefully it will be a better year with regard interest in mayo football!perhaps soccer may be given a little better coverage in the local papers(one can only hope eh?!)
i was wondering if there was any chance of discussing something other than what peter bourke had for his breakfast and whether he ate it in westport or castlebar?(maybe the halfway house??!!);)
i see that claremorris have made it through to the super league next season.what might be people's views as to how they might progress?i've played against them this past season and was very impressed with both their set up in claremorris and the football that they play.they have great pace out wide and up front-and of course they also have derek glynn(need i say anymore about him-great player!!)i can see them doing very well in the super league next year if they continue to progress the way they are going.congrats to them on their promotion!

turbotimmy
03/01/2007, 10:54 AM
with every1 fit any opinions on what westports best back 4will be?taking into consideration their recent acquisition...

gnasher
03/01/2007, 11:06 AM
with every1 fit any opinions on what westports best back 4will be?taking into consideration their recent acquisition...

I reckon he'd have to go straight in:
LB - Lawless
CB - Lovejoy
CB - Burke
RB - Navin

That's the strongest back 4 we have considering we needed to play McHale in midfield (before he buggered his shoulder again) and BOC should stop playing himself although he's better on the pitch than standing beside it.

Given current situation with injuries this might be the starting back four:
RB - Navin
CB - Burke
CB - O'Malley
LB - Lawless

Which isn't too shabby either.

Thunderblaster
03/01/2007, 12:07 PM
with every1 fit any opinions on what westports best back 4will be?taking into consideration their recent acquisition...


Welcome Back Turbotimmy. Great that someone rose from the dead!!:D :D :D

Thunderblaster
03/01/2007, 12:19 PM
Its that time on year whem poeple get itchy feet.or may be two much wine,
I have heard from good source that K. Murhpy has decided to go to Ballyheane.
Also I believe from the same source that P Bourke has join Westport, I have been told the payments is the reason for moving, he has been seen in the local watering holes on a round Westport lately,feeling his new suroundins out.
well good luck to him, one can only think that junior football is now the new money spinner away from the tax man?:ball: :

Funny enough, I got a text message from MF about Kieran Murphy going to Ballyheane and I also got a text from the same gentleman concerning an allegation that Peter Burke is to get €65 from Westport United. Do I smell a rat??:eek: I have to get the old detective into this!!:D

pixiehead
03/01/2007, 3:36 PM
with every1 fit any opinions on what westports best back 4will be?taking into consideration their recent acquisition...

I think there is a westport Thread for this :rolleyes:

swinfordfc
03/01/2007, 3:46 PM
How will Mayo do against Galway this weekend in Milebrush?

the grape vine
04/01/2007, 10:39 AM
i see r.gibbon's & s.reilly are gone back training with castlebar GAA team, big loss's for celtic !!

irishyop
05/01/2007, 11:30 AM
Just a little note that Fintan McHale could be taking over Celtics B team next season and I've heard that he wants to bring back the players that were discarded under this regime and that means the Super League winning team of 2001!!!!!!!!!! mmmmmmmmmmmmmm now thats sound tasty

Nah, not a true rumour at all, not unless he doesn't realise it himself !! :D

renovater
05/01/2007, 6:52 PM
I think we should move to Mayo 2007 at this stage enough said on this one. and start the slate clean.
By the way Happy new year to ye all.

pixiehead
06/01/2007, 2:59 PM
How will Mayo do against Galway this weekend in Milebrush?

They are in for a serious whipping. Mainly because the Galway side harbour alot of Ex United players :D "MAROON ARMY" :p

Fair Play
07/01/2007, 4:44 PM
They are in for a serious whipping. Mainly because the Galway side harbour alot of Ex United players :D "MAROON ARMY" :p
Some whipping all right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mayo 3 Galway 1

gnasher
08/01/2007, 7:55 AM
They are in for a serious whipping. Mainly because the Galway side harbour alot of Ex United players :D "MAROON ARMY" :p


How's that humble pie tasting? Mouth:D

swinfordfc
08/01/2007, 12:29 PM
Great win - was at it, Galway had their period of pressure but could not break down the central pairing of flynn and burke who were excellant, as was kelly and gillespie - great for his age and what a tackle in the second half :eek:
the right back was under pressure for long periods but he kept at it. Duffy up front is class - great work rate and the two o'malley (des when he came on) kept working hard - great performace and now sit on top 2 out of 2, congrats to all involved.

pixiehead
08/01/2007, 2:18 PM
How's that humble pie tasting? Mouth:D

Its kinda like A Mr Kippling Cake with a hint of brown Sugar and Cinnamon :rolleyes: All washed down with a hot cup of humble tea ;)

robben 11
08/01/2007, 5:18 PM
Nah, not a true rumour at all, not unless he doesn't realise it himself !! :D


fintan is player manager i hear and yes its true he wants the old guns back and lobby mayo representives to allow the b team play in the super league, its only right galway league allow it, it would be great to see the two celtic teams a & b play against each other, with the b team hating the grey ones regime

galactico
08/01/2007, 5:34 PM
Great win - was at it, Galway had their period of pressure but could not break down the central pairing of flynn and burke who were excellant, as was kelly and gillespie - great for his age and what a tackle in the second half :eek:
the right back was under pressure for long periods but he kept at it. Duffy up front is class - great work rate and the two o'malley (des when he came on) kept working hard - great performace and now sit on top 2 out of 2, congrats to all involved.

what do you mean HIS AGE???????? is he to old or what;)

sinabhuil
09/01/2007, 8:50 AM
Its 2007 - Move -Close the 06 thread

the 12 th man
09/01/2007, 9:31 AM
There's a new thread for this 2007 Season.