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sinabhuil
15/08/2006, 1:47 PM
Are league matches still on for Sunday. We are due to play at 2.30!!!!!

swinfordfc
15/08/2006, 4:51 PM
Are league matches still on for Sunday. We are due to play at 2.30!!!!!

They are on i'm afraid

Closed Account
16/08/2006, 5:15 PM
Seeing as the predictions league failed miserably without a competent administrator(apologies, i would of won anyway, it was fixed:p), if anyone is interested joined a mayo junior soccer fantasy football league hosted by www.premierleague.com, the code to join is

154570-94204

Register and set up your team at http://fantasy.premierleague.com

pixiehead
17/08/2006, 1:35 PM
Seeing as the predictions league failed miserably without a competent administrator(apologies, i would of won anyway, it was fixed:p), if anyone is interested joined a mayo junior soccer fantasy football league hosted by www.premierleague.com, the code to join is

154570-94204

Register and set up your team at http://fantasy.premierleague.com

I actually thought for a second you were on about a Fantasy football league with mayo players!!!!! Seriously but thats how it sounded joe! :confused: That would be be mad craic too:p

irishyop
17/08/2006, 4:48 PM
Must get in on that one Joe, another good one, for those who enjoy Championship Manager et al, is www.trophymanager.com
All the scenario of running a club and team. Maybe Steve "the gaffer" Stan could use this site!! ;)

Closed Account
18/08/2006, 3:05 PM
Everyone using their real names in the fantasy football. But i'm sure everyone has figured out who everyone is on this forum at this stage.;)

Thunderblaster
22/08/2006, 11:34 PM
I heard that Ballyheane and Castlebar Celtic was a classic on Saturday evening. Plenty of zzzzzzzz to it.

T-4:D

renovater
27/08/2006, 6:26 PM
I heard that Ballyheane and Castlebar Celtic was a classic on Saturday evening. Plenty of zzzzzzzz to it.

T-4:D
0-0 draw must help westport cause classic can't say it was.
some how the best teams in Mayo unable to beat Ballyheane.:eek:

Its bit on the late side for new thread some one tell the 12th man Mayo play in 2006 season next season 2007 and so on.

the 12 th man
27/08/2006, 8:01 PM
0-0 draw must help westport cause classic can't say it was.
some how the best teams in Mayo unable to beat Ballyheane.:eek:

Its bit on the late side for new thread some one tell the 12th man Mayo play in 2006 season next season 2007 and so on.


Why not have a thread for this season 06-07 (some games in both years), next year will be season 07-08 and so on?.

The Ref
27/08/2006, 8:25 PM
Why not have a thread for this season 06-07 (some games in both years), next year will be season 07-08 and so on?.

From what I understand the Mayo league play summer soccer, their league season runs during the calender year, only those who progress in the cup competitions run by bodies outside the league have games straddling two calender years.

Bestie
27/08/2006, 10:32 PM
From what I understand the Mayo league play summer soccer, their league season runs during the calender year, only those who progress in the cup competitions run by bodies outside the league have games straddling two calender years.

Yes the Mayo League runs from March to the end of September or early October. This has been the case for over ten years now. All the details of the Mayo League are on their website http://mayo.fai.ie are are up to date on all events happening on football in Mayo.

the 12 th man
28/08/2006, 6:44 AM
Amended accordingly.

Thanks Lads.

Mad Moose
28/08/2006, 2:35 PM
They are on i'm afraid

Who are youse playing Swinford fc.;) What are you afraid of.

I played up front against Glenisland last week in preparation for meeting ya. Then again I was left back the previous home game against Cross Celtic. Just seeing the season out at this stage.

renovater
30/08/2006, 5:34 PM
Amended accordingly.

Thanks Lads.
Well done to the 12th man for reinstating the Mayo THREAD.
make alot of common sense.:)

theboy
04/09/2006, 9:36 AM
so is it true that dykes and andy neary are both goin to limerick fc next season?? good result for S&F beating westport 3-2 goes to show S&F arent as bad as the season they had. the result leave the league in celtics hands.

Mpndo
04/09/2006, 12:31 PM
The following statement appears on the Mayo League website

"Lacken United have withdrawn form the League Division One. As a result of this any points won have been awarded to the opposition - namely - Partry Ath 5 points, Manulla 2 points, and Kilmore 2 points. Of the remaining 2 games against Mulranny Utd and Ballyvary Blue Bombers, each receive 3 points"

I am trying to fathom this one out. Does this mean if Lacken beat you, you would receive their 3 points,

if you drew against them, you would receive their 1 point, plus your own for drawing in the first place, ie 2.

And if you beat them obviously you keep your three points.

Am I reading this correctly?

mossy
04/09/2006, 3:53 PM
Another season drawing to a close. Celtic look champs - by default some would reckon (I mean nobody else seemed to give a damn). The relegation scenario is tricky with 2 from 6 likely to go. The Boro look likely to be drawn into it but have 2 games V the Glass left, some might say that the Glass can beat the Boro so who knows. The Heane are far from safe as they can easily lose twice to S&F to be left in the mire, remember their record against S&F is woefull.
Manulla might slip too, who knows.
On an aside, does the other forumites here think that this has been the worst season in living memory ? If so why? Has the U 21 caused to much disruption ? If so is it worth the hastle ?
The B crap has been an utter joke this year with the same players playing for both the A and B teams. You know it is rubbish when you see the B teams that are doing well and know that these are the same clubs that ruined the Reserve league fado fado. I hope that the person responsible for this inept piece of legislation realises the error of his ways and tries to address it even though it may not be in the interest of his beloved club.
On the brighter side congrats to J. Butler on his marshalling of the FAI website, An informative tool for all followers of the game here in Mayo. One thing you can say about Joe is that he doesn't do things by half.
Another bright side is the complete lack of interference by the MAFL in all things football, Now this is because
A. We, the clubs, have miraculously improved
B. The rules as they are, should now be ignored
or most probably
C. After the long and tortuous Celtic/FAI debacle when fingers were caught in the cookie jar the ethos has now changed to one of letting sleeping dogs lie

theboy
05/09/2006, 3:38 PM
ya i think your right about this year been the worst, to much stopping and starting. its like 1 week on 3 weeks off. in my opion the bottom of the table seems to be more interesting than the top.
still think it will be s&f and ballyglass, s&f have a harder run in than the other 4/5 teams. but with s&f winning there last 2 games against westport and manulla they could pull through. dont think teams will fancy goin to s&f for the remainder of the season thinkin its 3points in the bag.
ballina started well but always tend to fade away come the end of the season.

Fair Play
05/09/2006, 5:34 PM
I think that is a reasonable point regarding the Under 21 League, and the disruption it has caused to the Super league, and possibly the Premier Division. I suppose there is no perfect solution, given that both leagues are played during the Summer months. I am sure that the Mayo League are trying to develop the game, and I feel that an Under 21 squad committed to U-21 games only, would be an answer, but that was fully rejected by the clubs. It will need serious debate for next season.
As regards the comment on the B teams playing A team players, I must agree that it is somewhat farcical. I think it is unfair to criticize an individual for making that decision. I was present at the AGM where the clubs made the decision to allow this to happen. In actual fact there was very little debate, and I suppose that one should remember that it is clubs that abuse the situation, and not any individual who is involved in the league. Maybe what is needed is for the number of named A team players to be increased to 18 or 20 at the start of the season, but your overall point is correct.

sinabhuil
05/09/2006, 7:33 PM
What are the rules regarding players playing for A or B teams?:confused:

Fair Play
05/09/2006, 8:17 PM
What are the rules regarding players playing for A or B teams?:confused:

A club is required to list 16 A team players at the start of the season. The rest of the players in that club can play with either the A or B teams. No named A team player can play for the B team. I think that a player can transfer from the A team to the B team.

sinabhuil
05/09/2006, 8:42 PM
When is the draw for the connacht cup?:confused:

Bestie
05/09/2006, 10:58 PM
The Connacht cup draw is on the Mayo website http://mayo.fai.ie

Mad Moose
06/09/2006, 4:01 AM
The following statement appears on the Mayo League website

"Lacken United have withdrawn form the League Division One. As a result of this any points won have been awarded to the opposition - namely - Partry Ath 5 points, Manulla 2 points, and Kilmore 2 points. Of the remaining 2 games against Mulranny Utd and Ballyvary Blue Bombers, each receive 3 points"

I am trying to fathom this one out. Does this mean if Lacken beat you, you would receive their 3 points,

if you drew against them, you would receive their 1 point, plus your own for drawing in the first place, ie 2.

And if you beat them obviously you keep your three points.

Am I reading this correctly?

I've raised this at the Bombers and I havent got a definitive, I expected that like Dublin City pulling out of the Eircom League all results involving them were null and void. Like they never existed. I've since established with Mayo League this is the case which puts Ballyvary Blue Bombers i.e us in a relegation dogfight on 22 points I think. It threathens our very security for next season because Ballyvary Blue Bombers B are in Division 2 and means we can have only one team competing next season.

Lacken after pulling out of the league dont keep any points. All results and points accrued are cleared.

As a Ballyvary Blue Bombers 'B' player does that mean the games against Swinford B and Urlaur Ud are my last for a few seasons. If so I resent Lackens decision to pull out whatever their reasons. It has cost us the ability to field an A and B team for another season.

Brendan

sinabhuil
06/09/2006, 9:44 AM
A full list of the Draw for the Connacht Junior Cup. The 1st Round ties are due to be played on 7th/8th October. Super League teams enter the competition at the 3rd Round. The biggest clash in 1st Round in the Mayo area is the tie between Achill Rovers and Claremorris.
CONNACHT CUP DRAW SEASON 2006/2007
First Round : 7th/8th October 2006.
No Home Team Versus Away Team
1 Bangor Hibs V Kiltullagh
2 Roscommon Town V Moy Villa
3 Ericssons Athlone V Mac Dara
4 Manor Utd V Loughrea
5 West Coast Utd V Shiven Rovers
6 Aughannagh Celtic V Maugherouw Utd
7 Cartron Utd V Laurencetown Utd
8 Lacken Utd V Mannions FC
9 Ballyvarry B Bombers V Coolaney Utd
10 Chaffpool Utd V Coolera Rovers
11 Urlaur Utd V Dunmore Town
12 Ballinrobe Town V Western Rovers
13 Achill Rovers V Claremorris
14 Cam Celtic V Hollister
15 St Ellens V Colga FC
16 St Bernards V Conn Rangers
17 Castlebar Town V Tuam Celtic
18 Innisfree Celtic V Gurteen
19 Ballymoe FC V Grange Utd
20 CB Trotters V Aclare Celtic
21 Valley Rovers V Knocknacarra
22 Fahy Rovers V Oranbay 90
23 Glenhest Rovers V Baylough Rovers
24 Quayside Rovers V Chaffpool Rovers
25 Kilglass /Enniscrone V Glenisland Utd
26 Galway Bohs V Dysart
27 Rahara Rovers V Kiltimagh/Knock Utd
28 Clew Bay Utd V Oranmore
29 Loughglynn Utd V Real Tubber
30 Kilalla V St Johns Ath
31 Ballygawley Celtic V Kilmore
32 Partry Ath V Dromore Villa
33 Charlestown Ath V Lisnamult Celtic
34 Treacy Celtic V Ballisodare Utd
35 Inver Utd V MCR FC
36 Corofin Utd V Ballinagare FC
37 Swinford FC V Gurteen Celtic
38 St Endas V Manor Rangers
39 St Patricks V Cross Celtic
40 OLBC V Lough Harps
41 Mulranney Utd V Kilshanvey Utd
42 Medtronic V Carrick Town FC
43 Cregmore/Claregalway V Ballinakill
44 Calry Bohs V Crumlin
45 Moyne Villa === Bye
46 Cloonamahon Celtic === Bye
47 Abbey Rovers === Bye
48 Ramblers === Bye

Second Round : 28th/29th October 2006
49 37 V 19
50 4 V 47
51 6 V 41
52 25 V 28
53 35 V 30
54 7 V 16
55 18 V 11
56 2 V 43
57 44 V 3
58 36 V 1
59 23 V 33
60 15 V 12
61 26 V 32
62 21 V 10
63 45 V 29
64 31 V 14
65 9 V 8
66 38 V 20
67 48 V 22
68 42 V 17
69 13 V 34
70 39 46
71 40 V 5
72 24 V 27

Third Round : 2nd/3rd December 2006
73 49 V Corrib Rangers
74 Ahascragh Utd V 64
75 58 V Ballyglass
76 Balina Town V 50
77 51 V Arrow harps
78 Salthill Devon V Dynamo Blues
79 53 Moylough V 79
80 Crossmolina V 60
81 72 V 71
82 Boyle Celtic V Carbury FC
83 67 V Galway Hibs
84 Kilkerrin Utd V 66
85 69 V Snugboro Utd
86 Athenry V 62
87 Erris Utd V Manulla
88 Renmore V 54
89 55 V Glen Celtic
90 Kilkerrin Utd V Moore Utd
91 70 V Strand Celtic
92 Renmore V Ballyheane
93 68 V 55
94 Mervue Utd V Skyvalley Rovers
95 Abbey Utd V Cloonfad Utd
96 52 V Castlebar Celtic
97 Ballinasloe Town V 59
98 Cliffoney Celtic V Castlerea Celtic
99 Heatmerchants V Westport Utd
100 65 V Colemanstown Utd
101 West Utd V 62
102 56 V Glenview Stars
103 Straide &Foxford Utd V City Utd
104 Yeats Utd V 57

Fourth Round : 20th/ 21st January 2006
A 88 V 102
B 93 V 79
C 90 V 103
D 74 V 99
E 100 V 84
F 96 V 76
G 91 V 101
H 78 V 86
J 94 V 75
K 92 V 83
L 87 V 98
M 104 V 89
N 82 V 73
O 95 V 77
P 97 V 85
R 81 V 80

Fifth Round : 17th/18th February 2007
S D V C
T G V A
U J V F
V N V M
W R V O
X K V E
Y L V H
Z P V B

Quarter Finals : 17th /18th March 2007
300 Z V Y
400 X V W
500 U V T
600 V V S

Semi Finals
700 400 V 300
800 600 V 500

Final
1000 700 V 800
All games up to and including the Final will be decided on the day. In the event of a draw after 90 minutes one period of extra time and Penalties. The Venues for all Finals will be as follows : Galway Terryland Park,Mayo Milebush Park, Sligo/Leitrim McSherry Park If the above Venues are not available neutral Venues in the respective Leagues which includes Roscommon will be used. Please ensure that all results are sent on Sunday evenings to 087 1210310, 091 735619 or e-mail artfriels@eircom.net . The rule ; Automatic One Match ban will apply to all Competitions this Season, please ensure that all referees cards are returned to me at

sinabhuil
06/09/2006, 9:46 AM
Who are St. Pats? Caherlistrane, Galway?

swift
07/09/2006, 4:41 AM
so is it true that dykes and andy neary are both goin to limerick fc next season?? good result for S&F beating westport 3-2 goes to show S&F arent as bad as the season they had. the result leave the league in celtics hands.

Well I've heard that Dykes has had a meeting with the commitee and told them that Limerick have offered him this and that and he has told Celtic to match it. If they dont then he's off.

mossy
07/09/2006, 9:40 AM
As regards the implementation of the new B rule it was indeed endorsed by the clubs at the AGM but this was akin to turkeys voting for christmas. How can the likes of Bangor and Inver vote to play against a Super league's club A team in their division. Did they really know what they were voting for or were they just there to avoid the fine !!!
If you recall this official tried this the year before and the fox stood tall and explained to clubs the concept .ie turkeys & christmas. The clubs roundly defeated the motion. It was back on the table again last year and the Fox was AWOl so the clubs voted stupidly for this change.
Now don't get me wrong, it is very difficult to implement a ruling which would be fair. However how come Celtic and Ballyheane try and keep to the spirit of the law at least and some of the others just want a pot to p*** in at the end of the season particularly when their principal team is poor.
Come on ye clubs in the lower divisions speak up. We were all down there once you know and tell the MAFL to stop ****ing on yer back and tell ye it's raining !!!!!

Fair Play
07/09/2006, 11:25 AM
As regards the implementation of the new B rule it was indeed endorsed by the clubs at the AGM but this was akin to turkeys voting for christmas. How can the likes of Bangor and Inver vote to play against a Super league's club A team in their division. Did they really know what they were voting for or were they just there to avoid the fine !!!
If you recall this official tried this the year before and the fox stood tall and explained to clubs the concept .ie turkeys & christmas. The clubs roundly defeated the motion. It was back on the table again last year and the Fox was AWOl so the clubs voted stupidly for this change.
Now don't get me wrong, it is very difficult to implement a ruling which would be fair. However how come Celtic and Ballyheane try and keep to the spirit of the law at least and some of the others just want a pot to p*** in at the end of the season particularly when their principal team is poor.
Come on ye clubs in the lower divisions speak up. We were all down there once you know and tell the MAFL to stop ****ing on yer back and tell ye it's raining !!!!!
I am sure that the people present were intelligent enough to make an informed decision, but then again if it did not affect their own club they probably did not care about the outcome. I still think that the answer might be to increase the numbers to 20, and maybe this would help the situation. A lot of things happen during the Summer months with lads on holidays, suspended, and injuries and it can be difficult to make up teams at times.
I am sure that if someone can speak at the next AGM, and outline the difficulties properly, then there is every chance that the rule can be changed. What about yourself?

Bestie
07/09/2006, 11:48 AM
I am inclined to believe with both points of view regarding B team players, but I would suggest that people should not be shouting from the side lines on this issue. If matters need to be changed, people should be prepared to put a proposal forward for discussion at the meeting, and let democracy rule on the day. I do however agree with Fair Play, that it is unfair to be blaming one individual for the problem - if there are other people out there prepared to do job that he is doing, then they should put themselves forward.

OscarBravo
07/09/2006, 12:15 PM
The biggest problem with the sixteen player rule is that there is nothing to stop a club signing eight players for the A team who won't play all year. That way they have only 8 actual A team players and the other 8 can move up and down. I think this is what Manulla B seem to have been doing.
The old rules were that you signed 12 players as A for the year. The rest could be B. However upon playing five A team games, either starting or as a sub, a B team player automatically became an A team player.
This led to problems with B team players just filling in on odd days when A players are injured. When the A team players come back the B team players wouldn't get games but had played too many games to go back to B team and were therefore left with no football.
I think the current system would be fine if clubs didn't abuse it but it is never going to be the case so it has to be changed. It would be extremely interesting to see what list of players are actually signed for Manulla A. You could see a few forty somethings in there!

The Don
07/09/2006, 1:16 PM
I still think that the answer might be to increase the numbers to 20,

How would this solve anything?

mossy
07/09/2006, 1:30 PM
Could I apologise if the inference given was that one man was responsible for this abomination as I presume that he could not forsee clubs listing Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck in their A squad. However a mistake has been made and it would be great if it was acknowledged as such but I doubt that will happen somehow. A table of suggestions or various options being considered before the AGM would also be a step in the right direction.
As regards intelligent delegates or otherwise it has long been my assertion that clubs send in these very same Mickey Mouse's to the meetings to avoid the fine !!!
Mettings are also few and far between and the MAFL is not exactly overladed with members - working or otherwise.

Bestie
07/09/2006, 4:24 PM
As Mossy says the MAFL is not overladen with members, so how would any complicated system involving A team players be monitored and controlled? We do not want to go back to the old days when clubs were deducted large numbers of points during mid season. It is time for your suggestions lads.

sinabhuil
07/09/2006, 5:28 PM
Could I dare suggest that A and B Teams should be treated as seperate clubs. Why should A teams be given access to 40 to 60 players when smaller clubs have to do with what they have. This would stop bigger clubs signing loads of players and giving them experience in the B (C) teams. Players would think twice about going to a club if they had to sit on the bench most of the time. Is it time for a reserve league? Just suggestions. Don't eat me.:ball:

renovater
07/09/2006, 9:25 PM
I think that is a reasonable point regarding the Under 21 League, and the disruption it has caused to the Super league, and possibly the Premier Division. I suppose there is no perfect solution, given that both leagues are played during the Summer months. I am sure that the Mayo League are trying to develop the game, and I feel that an Under 21 squad committed to U-21 games only, would be an answer, but that was fully rejected by the clubs. It will need serious debate for next season.
As regards the comment on the B teams playing A team players, I must agree that it is somewhat farcical. I think it is unfair to criticize an individual for making that decision. I was present at the AGM where the clubs made the decision to allow this to happen. In actual fact there was very little debate, and I suppose that one should remember that it is clubs that abuse the situation, and not any individual who is involved in the league. Maybe what is needed is for the number of named A team players to be increased to 18 or 20 at the start of the season, but your overall point is correct.

Have to agree with you there is no perfect solution to the U-21 because both
including our leagues run almost at the same time.
How ever the league main committment is to promote and foster Junior Football for which they the L.M.C. are charged with
as a part of our rules.
any involvment of eircome league must come 2nd.
regards to our players who are registered with clubs form part of what we as junior football consider in promoting and fostering our game.
If an under 21 league interfers with this then the league who is backing such an act should reconsider its own postition as if fails to promote the game that they are charged with.
you mention A/B this appears to causing more problems because some clubs are not playing in the sprirt of the game.
the rules were changed because it was agreed there were to many rules.
what we need to do is insist that clubs have 18-20 players on the A-team
who are playing with that team not shadow players which some clubs have.
One needs to question why B team players are playing week in week out with the A -team explaintions need to be explain why this is happening.
its about time the league sat up and explain why one club seems to play its
B games one time and its A TEAM AT ANOTHER!
Other ie, refix its B-Team and A- team were not put out together like other clubs where.:mad:

renovater
07/09/2006, 9:28 PM
A club is required to list 16 A team players at the start of the season. The rest of the players in that club can play with either the A or B teams. No named A team player can play for the B team. I think that a player can transfer from the A team to the B team.

the word is regrade not transfer.
as this does not effect the player if he should transfer after.:)

renovater
07/09/2006, 9:33 PM
I've raised this at the Bombers and I havent got a definitive, I expected that like Dublin City pulling out of the Eircom League all results involving them were null and void. Like they never existed. I've since established with Mayo League this is the case which puts Ballyvary Blue Bombers i.e us in a relegation dogfight on 22 points I think. It threathens our very security for next season because Ballyvary Blue Bombers B are in Division 2 and means we can have only one team competing next season.

Lacken after pulling out of the league dont keep any points. All results and points accrued are cleared.

As a Ballyvary Blue Bombers 'B' player does that mean the games against Swinford B and Urlaur Ud are my last for a few seasons. If so I resent Lackens decision to pull out whatever their reasons. It has cost us the ability to field an A and B team for another season.

Brendan

very simple max points awarded is 6 so if you won you are awarded 3 if you loss both games you 6pts if drawn 1 you get 5
the point is the team is considered not have played in the league when it has with drawn.so if you hadn,t played them you get 6pts
Hope that helps:ball:

renovater
07/09/2006, 9:46 PM
As Mossy says the MAFL is not overladen with members, so how would any complicated system involving A team players be monitored and controlled? We do not want to go back to the old days when clubs were deducted large numbers of points during mid season. It is time for your suggestions lads.
Its not true to say that clubs could be deducted large number of points.
what was done in the old days as you put it was incorrect.
What should have happened now and in the passed is that you can only deducted for the first offence not offences that have been repeated, as it has not been brought to the attention of the club.
I dont think its problem to monitor clubs as it wasn't a problem in the pasted.
regards to the numbers not involved in the League need to be address by that league and should come up with the answers to why poeple don't want work with the excisting members.
One for the next meeting with your delegates when you decide to hold a meeting with them.:eek:

renovater
07/09/2006, 9:53 PM
Could I dare suggest that A and B Teams should be treated as seperate clubs. Why should A teams be given access to 40 to 60 players when smaller clubs have to do with what they have. This would stop bigger clubs signing loads of players and giving them experience in the B (C) teams. Players would think twice about going to a club if they had to sit on the bench most of the time. Is it time for a reserve league? Just suggestions. Don't eat me.:ball:
Well done Sina you got it right they should be seperate and not given an addvantage over smaller clubs.they want to play with there a/b then they should regrade.
Cut out the messing that is going on at the moment.
as for the reserve League I sujest we don't go there as that causes more problems than A/B TEAMS as it did in the passed.;)

Bestie
07/09/2006, 11:23 PM
Its not true to say that clubs could be deducted large number of points.
what was done in the old days as you put it was incorrect.
What should have happened now and in the passed is that you can only deducted for the first offence not offences that have been repeated, as it has not been brought to the attention of the club.
I dont think its problem to monitor clubs as it wasn't a problem in the pasted.
regards to the numbers not involved in the League need to be address by that league and should come up with the answers to why poeple don't want work with the excisting members.
One for the next meeting with your delegates when you decide to hold a meeting with them.:eek:
Tell that to Ballyglass and Manulla B when the "witch hunt" was in train some seasons ago. It has taken you a long time for you to come around to that type of thinking. By the way, I am not on the league to have anything to do with calling a delegates meeting......just offering my views and opinions the same as you are.

short_frank
08/09/2006, 1:50 AM
To me the answer is simple (maybe too simplistic). Any club running an A and B team should name their squad as clubs with only one team does. There is no crossover unless there is an official transfer. The difference is that, these clubs with A and B teams would be allowed mid season transfers between their teams. Each player would be allowed only one transfer per season. As it stands now any club with only one team has to struggle on if their is a player shortage (injuries, holidays) but big clubs running more than one team have an unfair advantage by being able to pull players back and forth especially when there are important games. When we need players mid season we have to go find and sign them, why can't the bigger clubs do this? Is it another case of the league being run by and for a select number of clubs?
We had an expierience of this a couple of years ago when we beat a B team handsomly in the first leg of a cup but in the second leg we faced what effectivly was 70% of their super league team and only scraped through on the odd goal. This is the situation that has to stop or we will never be operating on a level playing field. (pardon the pun)

The Don
08/09/2006, 8:16 AM
We had an expierience of this a couple of years ago when we beat a B team handsomly in the first leg of a cup but in the second leg we faced what effectivly was 70% of their super league team and only scraped through on the odd goal. This is the situation that has to stop or we will never be operating on a level playing field. (pardon the pun)

This couldnt happen as all their players would be cup tied!! I think we will have to think about reverting back to the old 5 game rule ie if you play 5 A team games you automatically become an a team player.

mossy
08/09/2006, 8:38 AM
Sorry to have brought this whole thing up really. But can we agree on a few things
A. It is not working Now ?
B. Was it better with the old 5 Rule ?
C. Is different Squads with or without transfer window too strict ?
I always thought that the rule should revolve around the question of whether you played for the A team in it's last Game(s) ie You cannot play for your B team if you have played in any of the last Two A team games. This will allow players to play B if they are dropped from A or injured and will stop the Sat. evening A match followed by the B team Sun Morning crap that is going on now.
Disadvantages: Players reluctant to play A ?. Difficult for MAFL to monitor ?Although any club who can't know if Mickey Mouse played in the last Two A matches should be deducted all their points anyway for sheer lack of organisation.
Opinions Please !!!!

short_frank
08/09/2006, 8:48 PM
This couldnt happen as all their players would be cup tied!! I think we will have to think about reverting back to the old 5 game rule ie if you play 5 A team games you automatically become an a team player.

Sorry Don it did. Maybe not legally and that would obviously have been a bad example but I was at an A game a few weeks later waiting for the B team to play us in the league after and I saw their A team.


C. Is different Squads with or without transfer window too strict ?


Why is different squads too strict after all every other club in the league has to operate like that.
The problem with the 5 game rule is how hard would it be to monitor it. I am sure the league registrar would have a complaint.

renovater
10/09/2006, 6:15 PM
Tell that to Ballyglass and Manulla B when the "witch hunt" was in train some seasons ago. It has taken you a long time for you to come around to that type of thinking. By the way, I am not on the league to have anything to do with calling a delegates meeting......just offering my views and opinions the same as you are.
I think you right about one thing mistakes were made but they were the decissions at the time.
I am not interested if you serve on the league, all I am concerned with that I just offer my opinions.
I don't intend to get into a slaging match with regards who serves were.
All I am interested in that the league serves all clubs with out favour.:ball:

renovater
10/09/2006, 6:23 PM
To me the answer is simple (maybe too simplistic). Any club running an A and B team should name their squad as clubs with only one team does. There is no crossover unless there is an official transfer. The difference is that, these clubs with A and B teams would be allowed mid season transfers between their teams. Each player would be allowed only one transfer per season. As it stands now any club with only one team has to struggle on if their is a player shortage (injuries, holidays) but big clubs running more than one team have an unfair advantage by being able to pull players back and forth especially when there are important games. When we need players mid season we have to go find and sign them, why can't the bigger clubs do this? Is it another case of the league being run by and for a select number of clubs?
We had an expierience of this a couple of years ago when we beat a B team handsomly in the first leg of a cup but in the second leg we faced what effectivly was 70% of their super league team and only scraped through on the odd goal. This is the situation that has to stop or we will never be operating on a level playing field. (pardon the pun)

I think you are thinking on the same lines as I hinted earier seperate teams.
If a player wants to regrade he simply regrades.
another words no player may assisted the other team without regrading upto 31st july. thats the easy rule to manage and fair all round.:)

swinfordfc
10/09/2006, 7:46 PM
hey renovater,

i see Bangor Hibs gain promotion to premier league and won the divisional cup. i did say they have a good season and you didn't think so. have faith :D

Spot Kick
10/09/2006, 8:14 PM
As a new kid on the block, I would like to look at football matters on the field. I was a spectator at todays game in Milebush between Castlebar Celtic and Crossmolina. How Crossmolina were not two or three up at half time is beyond me. I thought they played some great football, and were really unlucky. Celtic did very well in the second half, and probaly deserved their win in the end. There is a good report on the Mayo website.

swift
11/09/2006, 6:26 PM
Just saw this on the Limerick site
they didn't take a training session, they met with Stephen Kenny and his staff to go through the Limerick team, strengths, weakness etc......
Tommy Lynch is interim coach at the moment, someone to take training as the lads were a bit fed up of Danny's efforts!, a few people were interviewed for the job last week, Mike Kerley and Gavin Dykes among them
this on the Limerick site