Caoimhín Kelleher GK Brentford b.1998

[irishfan86]

If he leaves in the summer having won two league cups and played a meaningful part in a league title, I think he can rightfully say it was a good move for him to stay as long as he did. I would have been an advocate of him leaving sooner but if he plays well down the stretch and they claim the league — he’ll always have that on his resume no matter what else happens in his career.

[ontheotherhand]

I'd rather the 2 cup Medals and the massive games with massive pressure , what's the point of leaving to be say wilves keeper never having a chance to win Medals or be top of the league when u have that at Liverpool

Do you support Liverpool by any chance Liam?

[liamoo11]

Do you support Liverpool by any chance Liam?

100% I do and I'm estatic we could provide an irish international with 2 league Cup Medals, the opportunity to play in a team at the top of the Premier league and the chance to hone his craft with the best keeper in the world if any other club could provide something similar for a few more irish internationals I would be delighted

[joey B]

Do you support Liverpool by any chance Liam?

I support Liverpool aswell and think he should have left and played regular minutes,can see an argument for both though…..

[ontheotherhand]

[QUOTE=liamoo11;2178585]100% I do and I'm estatic we could provide an irish international with 2 league Cup Medals, the opportunity to play in a team at the top of the Premier league and the chance to hone his craft with the best

Right....but is he replacing Allison or does he still need to move? If the latter then the smarter move would still have been to move earlier surely?

Either way it is brilliant to see him playing.....but as said above, it may make the inevitable even harder now. The lad could have gone and been #1 years ago with the apparent talent on show. Now Liverpool might ask for too much and he loses another few seasons.

[elatedscum]

The argument generally is or has been that Kelleher’s development has suffered by being a second choice keeper. That had he left earlier and played games he’d be much better than he is now. And there have always been those who believed he wasn’t actually that good (and as of last summer, there were people saying that championship clubs wouldn’t be interested in him due to lack of game time.)

I think it’s useful to go back to summer 2019. Himself and Mark Travers were considered basically the same level. Travers had just played against Spurs where he was excellent and he went on to make his Ireland debut in September. It was genuinely a coin toss. Travers was third choice with Ireland, Kelleher was first choice with the u21s and a 17 year old Bazunu was second choice with the 21s.

Since then, Travers has played 92 games (13 premier league, 59 championship, 8 league one - and the rest in cups). He was first choice for Bournemouth in the championship and he went on loan twice when it was clear he wasn’t first choice.

In the same time, Kelleher has played 37 games for Liverpool (10 in the league, 7 in Europe and 20 in cups). However, in my opinion, Kelleher has developed much more working every day with Alisson (maybe the best keeper in the world), with Claudio Taffarell as a goalkeeping coach and facing the likes of Mo Salah and Diogo Jota every day, along with Van Dijk marshalling a defence in front of him. Daniel Sturridge spoke today about how, from a young age, he was his personal goalkeeper for all the after training, shooting drills he used to do.

To me, he’s improved technically as a keeper hugely and he’s filled out and become physically the keeper he needed to be. He’s genuinely at the point now where he can slot into a Liverpool team replacing the best keeper in the world and the results don’t go downhill.

And to be honest, as much as I like Travers, I still see the same deficiencies in his game that were there almost 5 years ago, despite him playing many more games than Kelleher. He’s still vulnerable from crosses and corners, a bit vulnerable physically under pressure and not great with his feet.

Bazunu is a bit different cause he’s significantly younger (3 years, 4 months). Bazunu was always physically ready. And his reactions are absolutely elite - best of the 3. And he’s extremely quick - it’s a great mix. However, his handling still worries me. He spills balls way too often, his reactions protect him a little bit. He’s gone through a bad time at Southampton and come through the other side. He’s a genuinely good keeper. But I don’t think 2024 Bazunu is that much of a better goalkeeper than the 2021 version who saved the penalty against Ronaldo and won a handful of man of the match awards.

Caoimhin is gonna play 25-30 games for Liverpool this season. It’s not bad at all. He wouldn’t play that many more as a first choice in a non-European qualified Premier League side.

[ontheotherhand]

The argument generally is or has been that Kelleher’s development has suffered by being a second choice keeper. That had he left earlier and played games he’d be much better than he is now. And there have always been those who believed he wasn’t actually that good (and as of last summer, there were people saying that championship clubs wouldn’t be interested in him due to lack of game time.)

I think it’s useful to go back to summer 2019. Himself and Mark Travers were considered basically the same level. Travers had just played against Spurs where he was excellent and he went on to make his Ireland debut in September. It was genuinely a coin toss. Travers was third choice with Ireland, Kelleher was first choice with the u21s and a 17 year old Bazunu was second choice with the 21s.

Since then, Travers has played 92 games (13 premier league, 59 championship, 8 league one - and the rest in cups). He was first choice for Bournemouth in the championship and he went on loan twice when it was clear he wasn’t first choice.

In the same time, Kelleher has played 37 games for Liverpool (10 in the league, 7 in Europe and 20 in cups). However, in my opinion, Kelleher has developed much more working every day with Alisson (maybe the best keeper in the world), with Claudio Taffarell as a goalkeeping coach and facing the likes of Mo Salah and Diogo Jota every day, along with Van Dijk marshalling a defence in front of him. Daniel Sturridge spoke today about how, from a young age, he was his personal goalkeeper for all the after training, shooting drills he used to do.

To me, he’s improved technically as a keeper hugely and he’s filled out and become physically the keeper he needed to be. He’s genuinely at the point now where he can slot into a Liverpool team replacing the best keeper in the world and the results don’t go downhill.

And to be honest, as much as I like Travers, I still see the same deficiencies in his game that were there almost 5 years ago, despite him playing many more games than Kelleher. He’s still vulnerable from crosses and corners, a bit vulnerable physically under pressure and not great with his feet.

Bazunu is a bit different cause he’s significantly younger (3 years, 4 months). Bazunu was always physically ready. And his reactions are absolutely elite - best of the 3. And he’s extremely quick - it’s a great mix. However, his handling still worries me. He spills balls way too often, his reactions protect him a little bit. He’s gone through a bad time at Southampton and come through the other side. He’s a genuinely good keeper. But I don’t think 2024 Bazunu is that much of a better goalkeeper than the 2021 version who saved the penalty against Ronaldo and won a handful of man of the match awards.

Caoimhin is gonna play 25-30 games for Liverpool this season. It’s not bad at all. He wouldn’t play that many more as a first choice in a non-European qualified Premier League side.

Sure, but it's pure fortune that he is playing. It's great but every game he gets is because Allison isn't available. Is facing Daniel Sturridge in training mode the same as playing football?

Very easy to make both arguments now to be fair. If he comes good, his path was correct. But how good could he be?

[samhaydenjr]

Great to see him get the games and I think we're seeing the quick improvement that comes from regular play - although maybe "improvement" doesn't describe it properly - perhaps he's had this ability for a few years but just needed the gametime to bring it out in match situations.

Does it bring up a conundrum for Liverpool? If his shot stopping and ability under crosses are on a par with Allisson, and his talent with the ball at his feet is actually better (which I believe it is), should he be the one Liverpool are trying to hold onto?

[pineapple stu]

The argument generally is or has been that Kelleher’s development has suffered by being a second choice keeper. That had he left earlier and played games he’d be much better than he is now. And there have always been those who believed he wasn’t actually that good (and as of last summer, there were people saying that championship clubs wouldn’t be interested in him due to lack of game time.)

I think it’s useful to go back to summer 2019. Himself and Mark Travers were considered basically the same level. Travers had just played against Spurs where he was excellent and he went on to make his Ireland debut in September. It was genuinely a coin toss. Travers was third choice with Ireland, Kelleher was first choice with the u21s and a 17 year old Bazunu was second choice with the 21s.

Since then, Travers has played 92 games (13 premier league, 59 championship, 8 league one - and the rest in cups). He was first choice for Bournemouth in the championship and he went on loan twice when it was clear he wasn’t first choice.

In the same time, Kelleher has played 37 games for Liverpool (10 in the league, 7 in Europe and 20 in cups). However, in my opinion, Kelleher has developed much more working every day with Alisson (maybe the best keeper in the world), with Claudio Taffarell as a goalkeeping coach and facing the likes of Mo Salah and Diogo Jota every day, along with Van Dijk marshalling a defence in front of him. Daniel Sturridge spoke today about how, from a young age, he was his personal goalkeeper for all the after training, shooting drills he used to do.

To me, he’s improved technically as a keeper hugely and he’s filled out and become physically the keeper he needed to be. He’s genuinely at the point now where he can slot into a Liverpool team replacing the best keeper in the world and the results don’t go downhill.

And to be honest, as much as I like Travers, I still see the same deficiencies in his game that were there almost 5 years ago, despite him playing many more games than Kelleher. He’s still vulnerable from crosses and corners, a bit vulnerable physically under pressure and not great with his feet.

Bazunu is a bit different cause he’s significantly younger (3 years, 4 months). Bazunu was always physically ready. And his reactions are absolutely elite - best of the 3. And he’s extremely quick - it’s a great mix. However, his handling still worries me. He spills balls way too often, his reactions protect him a little bit. He’s gone through a bad time at Southampton and come through the other side. He’s a genuinely good keeper. But I don’t think 2024 Bazunu is that much of a better goalkeeper than the 2021 version who saved the penalty against Ronaldo and won a handful of man of the match awards.

Caoimhin is gonna play 25-30 games for Liverpool this season. It’s not bad at all. He wouldn’t play that many more as a first choice in a non-European qualified Premier League side.
Good analysis - posts like this are the reason this forum is such a good place

I'd counter it though and say - maybe Kelleher is just a naturally better keeper than Travers? (Who, to be clear, is a bloody good keeper to have gotten where he is)

It's great for a young keeper to be training against the best week in week out, sure. But there has to come a time that's not enough any more. I think that time has to have come, if it wasn't already a year in the past.

[Stuttgart88]

I'd say he has just priced himself out of the rumoured Celtic move now!

Very acomplished performance. Again, body language suggesting real self-confidence and a belief he belongs in top class company.

[texidub]

Superb performance and great to see. Saw this from a stats head on the tweet machine earlier:


Caoimhin Kelleher saved 2.95 xG on target to keep a clean sheet today - a GK has only done this four times in Europe's big five leagues in the last seven seasons.

[Stuttgart88]

I saw that too and in all honesty it made me doubt how meaningful those XG stats are. The first stop was super but I thought it was a bit telegraphed by the striker. I think Gallagher was always second favourite in his one-on-one tbh, though of course Kelleher's positioning and decision making made him second favourite. And the third save with his foot was routine enough - albeit crucial. He was a bit like idah yesterday - what he did was good rather than extraordinary, but the context and the timing made it great. I actually think Chlesea's keeper had a good game too - but made a fatal move to his near post just as DvD was about to head the ball.

[Razors left peg]

Kelleher was excellent yesterday. Would it be fair to say hes improved in recent weeks than the few games he played earlier when he was getting a little bit of stick? I'll stand by my argument that playing games will make a player sharper. But he has been better that I thought he could be in recent weeks. If he continues to play well through March I wonder will Liverpool have a decision to make.

In a world where PSR is becoming more relevant for clubs I wonder is there a scenario that Liverpool decided to sell Alisson. Its not a simple as just getting investment from your owners to sign new players anymore. If they had Kelleher on probably a quarter of Alissons wages and a big transfer fee for Alisson, that could be a pretty big investment back into a club who will be rebuilding slightly with new manager. I think, if what Im hearing about PSR is right, we are going to see clubs having to make decisions on some star players if they are trying to sign others.

[elatedscum]

I'd counter it though and say - maybe Kelleher is just a naturally better keeper than Travers? (Who, to be clear, is a bloody good keeper to have gotten where he is)


I'd agree with that too but it certainly wasn't the consensus. Here's a sample of what was written around that time (sometimes I'm parsing out just the negative in a post) - but you get the picture pretty quick:

2019/20:

Nigelharps: Would prefer if he pushed for a January loan and some first team football, even in League One. The single biggest issue a goalkeeper can have, is a lack of proper regular game time. If he got 6 months on loan at a Championship or League One side as first choice, you could see a huge improvement in his game.


del: I'd say it could be more like a Kieran O'Hara situation if he wants regular game time, basically dropping to League 1 or League 2.


Eirambler: I do wonder what it is about Kelleher that has got him to this level ... He's everything I don't like in a keeper, not a big commanding type, never seems to save anything and always looks like he has a mistake in him… I'd say Preston will steer clear now if the rumours of their interest were true. If I was involved at Preston I'd actually look at Travers instead of Kelleher


TommyC: He simply needs first team games at any level from January. Much too early to be making an assessment on Caomhin. Let’s see where he is next summer. Travers has always impressed me and has a number of senior (albeit low level) games under his belt.


ifk: Not a fan. A loan move would help to mature his development (realistically thinking non-league). And not sure he is that good with the ball at his feet? Seems he is trying to project an air of confidence but it all feels casual, lackadaisical and iffy on back passes. His distribution from feet has room for improvement. Certainly felt his clearances were on the wayward side.


Nigel: I think he could nab himself a 6 month loan at League One level, maybe League Two.




2020/21:


Eirambler: I'm not at all convinced that he's that solid a keeper, but his ability to play the ball out will get him a long way with a lot of modern day coaches. Whether that translates to a successful loan in the Championship or League 1 is questionable though. He's a young Claudio Bravo basically…


Tommy: It will be truly bizarre and woeful career management if he doesn’t get out playing men’s football by October … The fact is he just needs to get out and play a season of senior football ASAP ... In reality he is nowhere at Liverpool and could be discarded quickly ... Grabara would probably be trusted more than Kelleher at this stage ... Liverpool actively headhunting more young promising goalkeepers is hardly promising. <referring to Pitaluga who is on loan at Pats>


Razor: It already feels like Bazunu is way ahead of Kelleher. Was playing mens football with Rovers at 16 and now playing L1 at 18. Kelleher has been treading water for last couple years it seems


Paul o Shea: The times I've seen him he hasnt looked like a good shoot stopper. More like a sweeper.


Eirambler: There's an arrogance at Liverpool and some other clubs that, because you are training with the first team, that's as good as playing matches. It's not and at this point there's no guarantee that he will make it as a professional goalkeeper, let alone a top level one. He desperately needs a loan to develop and to give him a chance at least to make it in the game.


Stutts: I even think Conor Kearns looked better for the U21s.


ifk: I don't rate Kelleher at all


Colourfulpeanut: Sitting on the bench for the year playing cup ties or dead rubber CL group games will do his development absolutely no good.


seanfhear: At 23 this year, Kelleher needs to be playing games. Hopefully something changes and he gets to play games.


2021/22:


Del: All we can go on is 'Liverpool rate him' at this stage, which doesn't really mean a whole lot other than stalling his development by not allowing him go out on loan.


Exgrad: Kelleher could really do with a loan, he's 23 in a couple of months,


Tommy: He needs senior football experience, but we’ve being saying that for the past 3 years … He needs to sort his career out… Liverpool’s treatment of him is unacceptable and does not have his best interests at heart, it’s clearly club first well before his development. He will be just as easily cast aside once they acquire a more experienced keeper … He’s firmly the third choice irish keeper in my book, behind Bazunu and Travers. Time for him to fly the Anfield nest in January and finally get some game time ANYWHERE.


Snapshot: Kelleher has yet to convince he'll ever be No.1 at Liverpool or at EPL level. I doubt it.


Razor: again I ask the question, stay until when? At 26 is it still good enough for him to be number 2 to 32 year old Allison? Who knows, by then Liverpool might have churned out 3 more brilliant young keepers. My opinion is that at the end of this season if he's not looking to move on to play at least on loan he is just comfortable with a paycheck and doesn't have the drive to be a top class keeper anyway


Bielsa: Kelleher is like a boy scout he needs one or two years living in Greater Bs As living in Hurlingham, Wilde or William C. Morris to man up a bit. He needs to be a real scoundrel to advance there.

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It goes on and and on... The reality is, he's developed into a keeper, who I think, if Alisson was to depart in the summer, Liverpool would make him number 1. Not a guarantee but that's the most likely outcome. And he's done that by training every day in a world class environment and playing very little. Meanwhile Bazunu and Travers have gone down a more conventional route, striving to play more games above all else, and their development hasn't been as dramatic (Travers since 2019, Bazunu since 2021).

[pineapple stu]

I'd agree with that too but it certainly wasn't the consensus. Here's a sample of what was written around that time (sometimes I'm parsing out just the negative in a post) - but you get the picture pretty quick:
Fair bit of work gone into that post!

In fairness, I wouldn't take foot.ie as a panel of football experts - those comments don't preclude the idea that it may have been better for his development to leave 12 months ago.

I won't argue that there weren't doubters for sure. It seems the League Cup final game was a real breakthrough game for Kelleher - though I said the same about Ferguson's hat-trick against Newcastle earlier in the season and look what that's done for him...

[ontheotherhand]

Interesting one for the new manager/phone in vote/chatGPT query now.

I'd be picking Kelleher. Playing regularly now at a higher level than Bazunu. Maybe harsh on Bazunu as he's generally been very good for Ireland but I'm sure he's always expected that Kelleher would get the gloves at some point for at least a while.

[pineapple stu]

I saw that too and in all honesty it made me doubt how meaningful those XG stats are.
Worth noting xG isn't a great metric to judge keepers by. A forward fluffing a shot in a great position could have a high xG but still be an easy save. PSxG is intended as a better metric for a keeper performance.

[Stuttgart88]

Worth noting xG isn't a great metric to judge keepers by. A forward fluffing a shot in a great position could have a high xG but still be an easy save. PSxG is intended as a better metric for a keeper performance.it was more the fact that it was such a rare achievement. What he did yesterday was top class but not one of the great performances of recent years that that particular interpretation of the metric suggests. But point taken.

And elatedscum, Kearns DID look better in the Toulon tournament :)

[mark12345]

Sure, but it's pure fortune that he is playing. It's great but every game he gets is because Allison isn't available. Is facing Daniel Sturridge in training mode the same as playing football?

Very easy to make both arguments now to be fair. If he comes good, his path was correct. But how good could he be?

I can find fault with Kelleher's performance against Chelsea yesterday. His hair wasn't combed and one of his boots had muck on it.

[Razors left peg]

Bazunu and Kelleher are due to play against each other on Wednesday night in FA Cup... unless Bazunu is left out, which happens for the cup games sometimes

[JR89]

Bazunu hasn't featured in any of Southamptons cup games this season and hopefully that streak continues on Wednesday night.

The Bazunu Vs Kelleher stuff is unbearable at the best of times so can't imagine what it will be like if they play against each other. Especially this soon with an international window in a few weeks.

[Snapshot]

Bazunu hasn't featured in any of Southamptons cup games this season and hopefully that streak continues on Wednesday night.

The Bazunu Vs Kelleher stuff is unbearable at the best of times so can't imagine what it will be like if they play against each other. Especially this soon with an international window in a few weeks. I hope it happens. Two hyped Irish goalkeepers with EPL aspirations in a cup knockout scenario. What's not to like?

[ColourfulPeanut]

I like the Bazunu/Kelleher stuff. It's the one position we're stacked at and it's a positive debate for once.

The only way it gets toxic is when Liverpool fan try to defend Caoimhin and show their bias. Let the hype continue and hope both have top class careers. Once Kelleher become a #1 somewhere, it'll really start to get exciting.

Perfect for this window too. Give them a game each!

[third policeman]

The only way it gets toxic is when Liverpool fan try to defend Caoimhin and show their bias. Let the hype continue and hope both have top class careers. Once Kelleher become a #1 somewhere, it'll really start to get exciting.

Perfect for this window too. Give them a game each!

I guess I fall into that category. I don’t think ‘defending’ a player we happen to know about and probably pay more attention to from partisan criticism is bias. Kelleher is pretty much vindicating what many of us have consistently argued, he’s an outstanding keeper and the fact that he wasn’t playing regularly doesn’t mean that he is, by definition, an unworthy rival to someone playing more regularly for a poorer team at a lower level. I do hope he moves and plays more regularly even though he will be a loss to Liverpool, but even if he doesn’t I think he’d still merit selection ahead of Bazunu as he is a better all round keeper. That’s a view that might have sounded like bias to some, but it’s not just Liverpool fans who have recognised Kelleher’s ability.

[Snapshot]

I guess I fall into that category. I don’t think ‘defending’ a player we happen to know about and probably pay more attention to from partisan criticism is bias. Kelleher is pretty much vindicating what many of us have consistently argued, he’s an outstanding keeper and the fact that he wasn’t playing regularly doesn’t mean that he is, by definition, an unworthy rival to someone playing more regularly for a poorer team at a lower level. I do hope he moves and plays more regularly even though he will be a loss to Liverpool, but even if he doesn’t I think he’d still merit selection ahead of Bazunu as he is a better all round keeper. That’s a view that might have sounded like bias to some, but it’s not just Liverpool fans who have recognised Kelleher’s ability.
It's understandable, even imperative, that Irish fans have a healthy degree of bias and optimism for our players. But the wheels spin off the wagon when the green-tints turn opaque and pragmatism is dumped (comment not aimed at you TP). Both these lads have issues concerning perceived high-level EPL careers. One has not been tested on the week-in-week-out Premiership grind while the other's scorecard there, at best, is a C. That's certainly not to say they won't succeed but it's definitely not a gimme.

[joey B]

Had a busy enough first half against Southampton,made a couple of good saves and was strong on any high balls into the box….

[liamoo11]

Had a busy enough first half against Southampton,made a couple of good saves and was strong on any high balls into the box….

Tidy second half a good early save and excellent distribution. Very calm presence in Allison abscence

[elatedscum]

Klopp saying “there’s no timescale” on Alisson’s return but that the injury isn’t season ending. Looks like Kelleher might continue beyond the international break

[elatedscum]

Another excellent save in the first half against Forest. Another one on one situation. Liverpool win 1-0 and that makes in 6 wins from 6 for Kelleher in the league.

Omobamidele was really good for Forest as well. Handled Diaz, Gakpo and Nunez really well. Fast and strong and maybe about 5-10 key blocks from shots

[Stuttgart88]

Another excellent save in the first half against Forest. Another one on one situation. Liverpool win 1-0 and that makes in 6 wins from 6 for Kelleher in the league.

Omobamidele was really good for Forest as well. Handled Diaz, Gakpo and Nunez really well. Fast and strong and maybe about 5-10 key blocks from shotsI'd say it was another "big" save rather than excellent save. Being picky I know. But big saves are what win games and even trophies. And just to avoid claims I might be being churlish, I was in a chat with a poster here at the weekend who pointed out that he's coming out the right side of a lot of these big moments right now - I agree, and it's clearly a good sign.

It was a bit like an open play version of Idah's penalty miss: dived right but left a trailing foot. In both cases a better lifted finish takes that off the table.

He was even inadvertently involved in the late winner, after the ref erroneously handed him the ball to restart with a drop ball after a halt in play.

[liamoo11]

I'd say it was another "big" save rather than excellent save. Being picky I know. But big saves are what win games and even trophies. And just to avoid claims I might be being churlish, I was in a chat with a poster here at the weekend who pointed out that he's coming out the right side of a lot of these big moments right now - I agree, and it's clearly a good sign.

It was a bit like an open play version of Idah's penalty miss: dived right but left a trailing foot. In both cases a better lifted finish takes that off the table.

He was even inadvertently involved in the late winner, after the ref erroneously handed him the ball to restart with a drop ball after a halt in play.

I think it's the.insanely body position he takes up that allows him to cover off such a large portion of the goals and allows him to get his leg out so well that makes it excellent. It's carbon copy of Ali s positioning which is quite unusual and what makes Ali the best in the world for one on one's. Kellehers years working with him is on show. Also on a day where liverpool were out on their feet after 4 games in 11 days and there was very little spark or fluidity it was massive to not go one down

[Razors left peg]

There are twitter rumors today that Kelleher has picked up an injury in training. You'd hope its not true with the opportunity he has in front of him

[liamoo11]

There are twitter rumors today that Kelleher has picked up an injury in training. You'd hope its not true with the opportunity he has in front of him

Top performance tonight some excellent saves and great awareness. Very calm.on ball when others on the liverpool side were looking rattled

[Jd2793]

massive test for him sunday but hes done really well since stepping in for alisson. the run of games has shown what a good keeper he is, that and liverpools insistence on giving up 2/3 big chances per game.

[Razors left peg]

Cant ask any more from him with hows hes done since the injury to Alisson. I think he might have been a little shaky the 1st game or 2 but hes been excellent since. Fair play to him for taking the opportunity when it came. I hope all these games have given him a taste for playing now and he wont want to go back to being a bench warmer.

[Stuttgart88]

ah lads, can you not see that he fumbled Gomez' clearance through his legs?

He's in the form of his career so far. What an incredible job. I'm torn, as an Arsenal fan I thought his run of games combined with others' injuries might open the door a bit, but he's been instrumental in keeping it shut.

[Eirambler]

Another solid afternoon's work for Kelleher. No errors and a couple of smart saves including a very important one in the second half.

[liamoo11]

Another solid afternoon's work for Kelleher. No errors and a couple of smart saves including a very important one in the second half.

Yeah excellent again so calm made great decisions and huge save off Forden.

[Stuttgart88]

Another solid afternoon's work for Kelleher. No errors and a couple of smart saves including a very important one in the second half.did he not get away with one punching the ball into Foden?

[liamoo11]

did he not get away with one punching the ball into Foden?

I think that showed he is prepared to come off his line for dangerous crosses. It was a fantastic cross into such a dangerous area. The right and brave decision was to come off his line and dive to punch it clear which he did. Forden handled it from the punch which was a natural reaction from Foden so a yellow for Forden would have been harsh

[elatedscum]

did he not get away with one punching the ball into Foden?

For what it’s worth. He punched it into Foden’s hand so had it gone in, it wouldn’t have counted. Thought he was pretty brave to come and win and was unlucky to hit Foden in the first place

[Stuttgart88]

I thought it was a bit rash and had it hit another part of Foden it might have been a worse outcome. Or might not.

[Jd2793]

really good again. should be no1 for the next 2 games.

[Stuttgart88]

Not his finest outing yesterday, fair? Not bad, but a drop in his recent high standard.

Made a bit of a hash of the save for the first goal imho. Even if he’d have got a good hand(s) to it there’s still no guarantee he’d have got it to safety but he just teed it up for McTominay really. It reminded me a bit of Chelsea Women’s first goal against Arsenal on Friday night.

The 4th was savable imho. Not an error but in real time I was surprised when it hit the net, I was expecting a tip around the post.

He made himself big for Rashford’s fluffed chance late in normal time. I think he read it well and stretched his left leg out just as Rashford was shooting – maybe leaving big space between his legs? - but I think he read Rashford’s intentions early so credit there.

[Jd2793]

poor for the first but a bit unlucky aswell imo, onana was similar for liverpools second. thought the 4th looked saveable in real time but on replays it was a great finish

[Stuttgart88]

Looks like Celtic are being a bit more realistic in their new keeper search

Celtic have made a concrete offer to goalkeeper Etienne Vaessen (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68595280), who is out of contract with relegation-threatened Waalwijk this summer, but Eredivise rivals PSV Eindhoven are also interested in the 28-year-old. (Brabants Dagblad)

[SkStu]

Not his finest outing yesterday, fair? Not bad, but a drop in his recent high standard.

Made a bit of a hash of the save for the first goal imho. Even if he’d have got a good hand(s) to it there’s still no guarantee he’d have got it to safety but he just teed it up for McTominay really. It reminded me a bit of Chelsea Women’s first goal against Arsenal on Friday night.

The 4th was savable imho. Not an error but in real time I was surprised when it hit the net, I was expecting a tip around the post.

He made himself big for Rashford’s fluffed chance late in normal time. I think he read it well and stretched his left leg out just as Rashford was shooting – maybe leaving big space between his legs? - but I think he read Rashford’s intentions early so credit there.

I think that might be a wee bit harsh. Watched it all except the first 30 mins and thought he did well. First goal, yes, maybe could have done better but as JD points out Onana did the exact same thing so i gave him more or less a pass on that. I thought the 4th goal was about as unsavable as one of those strikes can be - i'm no gk expert but his positioning seemed fine to me, and the ball couldnt have been better placed if Diallo had put it there himself. Never good to have 4 goals against mind you.

[Stuttgart88]

Onana is a pretty low bar tbf :)

[SkStu]

Onana is a pretty low bar tbf :)

This thought also crossed my mind! :D

[Razors left peg]

If a certain other keeper conceeded 4 goals it'd be held up as proof that he's not good enough.

I actually thought he did ok yesterday. I liked the way he commanded his box. He looked assured under crosses too. It was one of the most enjoyable games I've watched in years and I wouldn't really put any blame on Kelleher for the goals