Caoimhín Kelleher GK Brentford b.1998

[Eirambler]

Passenger...

[Razors left peg]

If hes anything he'd be the mature student who is still stuck repeating 1st year in Flight school for the 5th time.

[third policeman]

This is becoming very tiresome. Might be a bit of an irrelevant observation, but he actually played quite well.

[Razors left peg]

This is becoming very tiresome. Might be a bit of an irrelevant observation, but he actually played quite well.

They are jokes dude, lighten up. Not everything is an attack on your beloved Liverpool

[tetsujin1979]

Crazy stat, when you think about it
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[Stuttgart88]

I just saw the highlights on TNT's website. Liverpool Twitter wasn't happy with him last night but I'm not sure why. First goal was all about bad defending and a critical deflection, second was unstoppable - super hard low finish imho - and the third was a dangerous low cross that took a deflection and he pushed it wide of the goal only for a guy to finish from a tightish angle. I think a goalkeeper has to go for those balls (corridor of uncertainty as they say), though maybe his defender would have dealt with it better. Again, a slight deflection meant he needed to make an instant decision.

[seanfhear]

I just saw the highlights on TNT's website. Liverpool Twitter wasn't happy with him last night but I'm not sure why. First goal was all about bad defending and a critical deflection, second was unstoppable - super hard low finish imho - and the third was a dangerous low cross that took a deflection and he pushed it wide of the goal only for a guy to finish from a tightish angle. I think a goalkeeper has to go for those balls (corridor of uncertainty as they say), though maybe his defender would have dealt with it better. Again, a slight deflection meant he needed to make an instant decision.
Kelleher needs to be playing week in week out to see if he can make it as a goalkeeper ~ Either in the Championship or in the very unlikely event that a manager would take such a gamble on such an in-experienced goalkeeper in the Premier League.

One of these days / months, Kelleher is going to have to do what ever it takes to try to get to play, week in week out ~ Until that happens no one knows what level he is capable of playing at.

[ifk101]

Yeah, he wasn't at fault for any of the goals last night but seems to be a consensus opinion he is in "poorer form this season" from skimming the Liverpool fans forum - hence the criticism? I suppose from our perspective it is good that he has gotten match time recently if he needs to be called upon.

[LurcherLover]

Yeah, he wasn't at fault for any of the goals last night but seems to be a consensus opinion he is in "poorer form this season" from skimming the Liverpool fans forum - hence the criticism? I suppose from our perspective it is good that he has gotten match time recently if he needs to be called upon.
He was certainly at fault for the 3rd goal.

[weldoninhio]

I just saw the highlights on TNT's website. Liverpool Twitter wasn't happy with him last night but I'm not sure why. First goal was all about bad defending and a critical deflection, second was unstoppable - super hard low finish imho - and the third was a dangerous low cross that took a deflection and he pushed it wide of the goal only for a guy to finish from a tightish angle. I think a goalkeeper has to go for those balls (corridor of uncertainty as they say), though maybe his defender would have dealt with it better. Again, a slight deflection meant he needed to make an instant decision.

Third goal he was all over the place. Positioning for the initial shot was dodgy, then left the entire far side of his goal exposed for the finish. Liverpool forums were scathing of him. Seen a few hoping that Allison doesn't get an injury. They seem to be losing faith in Kelleher.

[seanfhear]

Third goal he was all over the place. Positioning for the initial shot was dodgy, then left the entire far side of his goal exposed for the finish. Liverpool forums were scathing of him. Seen a few hoping that Allison doesn't get an injury. They seem to be losing faith in Kelleher.
He hasn't played enough to know what he is capable of.

[ifk101]

Maybe Kelleher can do better for the third. But look at the actions of the defensive line. First cross field pass could have been stopped, the ball across the box is stoppable if the RB faces up and doesn't turn his back - which results in the deflection, neither of the 2 CBs pick up the Toulouse striker - if Kelleher doesn't get a touch on the deflection he has a tap in, nobody in the Liverpool defence had a clue the scorer of the goal was arriving in the box. Defensive shambles all over.

[nigel-harps1954]

I don't think he covered himself in glory at all really. He was beaten five times all in, with two ruled out. I really don't like the way he closes down a player too, makes his body really small rather than spread himself.

[Jolly Red Giant]

I don't think he covered himself in glory at all really. He was beaten five times all in, with two ruled out. I really don't like the way he closes down a player too, makes his body really small rather than spread himself.
I thought he was poor enough if not directly responsible for the goals - and you are right about closing down an incoming attacker - it is one thing that Bazunu does do better than Kelleher.

[elatedscum]

While not being directly responsible for any goals recently, he’s really not looked great. Not sure what’s going on but he just hasn’t made the saves he’s capable of. He’s still excellent with his feet and his handling is excellent but in the past when there was a one on one, I’d have far more faith it wouldn’t be a goal

[Jolly Red Giant]

Confidence is massive for goalkeepers - and you get the impression that something is not right with him at the moment (probably that he is playing so few games)

[third policeman]

Maybe he sees every game as being his chance to put himself in the shop window and nerves are definitely playing a part. It's strangely like Nunez. he's fine when he doesn't have time and doesn't have to make a decision and its pure instinct. Kelleher is equally confident with his handling, distribution and some good reaction saves. The problem seems to be when he has a decision to make where a striker is on goal. He seems to hesitate, almost freeze, and ends up offering too big or too obvious a target.

[joey B]

Looks like Allison has picked up an injury that will sideline him for a while according to Klopp,Kelleher will get extended minutes in the team in one of the busiest periods of the season now …..

[CSAD]

This is the chance he's been waiting for, he better take it with both hands. Also good timing with Ireland changing manager, if he can get regular game time in the premier league it might edge him ahead of Bazunu in the manager's eyes.

[SkStu]

if he can get regular game time in the premier league it might edge him ahead of Bazunu in the manager's eyes.

hard to believe this is considered a controversial opinion on here.

[JR89]

This is the chance he's been waiting for, he better take it with both hands. Also good timing with Ireland changing manager, if he can get regular game time in the premier league it might edge him ahead of Bazunu in the manager's eyes.

Very good timing. There's 9 games between now and the new year. Any new manager coming in will give the keepers game time over the friendlies. Kelleher will hopefully be going into that March window with double digit games played for Liverpool between now and then.

[CSAD]

hard to believe this is considered a controversial opinion on here.

I mean I get why he's behind Bazunu now as he's not playing week in week out unlike Bazunu but ultimately if Kelleher is starting every game for Liverpool then he may be seen as the better option.

[Eirambler]

Kelleher out for six weeks with a knock he picked up in training, is the news I'm expecting to hear any day now.

[seanfhear]

Kelleher out for six weeks with a knock he picked up in training, is the news I'm expecting to hear any day now.
Stop It ! ! !

[John83]

Kelleher out for six weeks with a knock he picked up in training, is the news I'm expecting to hear any day now.
My cardiologist is very unhappy with you.

[Jolly Red Giant]

I mean I get why he's behind Bazunu now as he's not playing week in week out unlike Bazunu but ultimately if Kelleher is starting every game for Liverpool then he may be seen as the better option.
If he is starting every week for Liverpool then he would be a better option - no questions asked - a PL player over a Championship one.

[Eirambler]

It doesn't always work like that though - if it did then Rory Delap and Damien Delaney would have a lot more caps than they do.

Baz was our best player last time out and has saved us from a few hammerings in the last couple of years. Just getting a run of games because Alisson is injured and he's Liverpool's next best option doesn't by itself warrant him getting the jersey. He needs to be good when he gets his chance.

[Jolly Red Giant]

It doesn't always work like that though - if it did then Rory Delap and Damien Delaney would have a lot more caps than they do.

Baz was our best player last time out and has saved us from a few hammerings in the last couple of years. Just getting a run of games because Alisson is injured and he's Liverpool's next best option doesn't by itself warrant him getting the jersey. He needs to be good when he gets his chance.
If Kelleher doesn't play well he won't be in the Liverpool goal for long - Adrian will replace him.

[ontheotherhand]

Ideal timing for him in multiple ways. Hope he takes it. Bazunu has been great for Ireland but he's still developing while playing. If Kelleher can show everyone why watching Allison all these years was as good or better for his development by playing well in the EPL...then he's clearly the better option for Ireland and may have a few more bidders in the next window.

[weldoninhio]

If he is starting every week for Liverpool then he would be a better option - no questions asked - a PL player over a Championship one.

Wouldn't that depend on how many he's letting in if he is playing??

[Razors left peg]

If Kelleher plays the next few weeks and performs well you'd hope that could lead to move in January. Great timing for him, needs to take his chance now

[liamoo11]

If Kelleher plays the next few weeks and performs well you'd hope that could lead to move in January. Great timing for him, needs to take his chance now

No way he moves in Jan. This is the reason liverpool didn't let him go

[Razors left peg]

No way he moves in Jan. This is the reason liverpool didn't let him go

He cant stay forever, needs to strike while the iron is hot.... the flip side is if he has a disaster in the next few weeks he could find himself struggling to find any club

[liamoo11]

He cant stay forever, needs to strike while the iron is hot.... the flip side is if he has a disaster in the next few weeks he could find himself struggling to find any club

I don't think liverpool will want to head into second half of the season without a reliable back up keeper which Adrian certainly isn't and the younger liverpool keepers aren't going to be trusted yet. Hopefully he gets 10 games between now and early Jan. What an opportunity

[Razors left peg]

Let's hope he is reliable for them

[Eirambler]

Can't see him going anywhere before next summer at the earliest. Even then there's no guarantee, but this opportunity if it comes and he does well, might finally kick start things for him.

[Stuttgart88]

This is a great chance for him. And it's a handy enough few games to begin with.

Watching Joe Hart being unconvincing at Celtic recently and given the rumours from a while back I think Celtic would be a great move for both parties. I think he could be their keeper for a decade if he fulfills his potential.

[thischarmingman]

Write-up in The Athletic today with some stats:

https://archive.ph/DYBm4

[weldoninhio]

This is a great chance for him. And it's a handy enough few games to begin with.

Watching Joe Hart being unconvincing at Celtic recently and given the rumours from a while back I think Celtic would be a great move for both parties. I think he could be their keeper for a decade if he fulfills his potential.

Celtic won't pay what Liverpool are looking for. Unless it's a loan deal it'll never happen.

[JR89]

Alisson will be out for two weeks according to Klopp. Kelleher should get the three PL games (Fulham, Sheffield United, and Palace) in-between their last two Europa games. Reckon Alisson will be back in time for the derby with United.

[joey B]

Kinda of a shame the games he’s getting,was hoping he’d get to play against the likes of Arsenal and United to really test him,but it’s good he’s getting a decent stretch nonetheless…..

[JR89]

And they have Newcastle a week after playing Arsenal. Something's better than nothing at least. The joys of being a back up keeper.

Pity the rumours linking him to Brighten didn't happen as the new young keeper they bought is getting plenty of game time. Has started 6 of their 13 PL games.

[third policeman]

Very tidy and confident performance tonight. Three good saves

[elatedscum]

Yep - three good saves. Calm throughout and good distribution for the most part.

These are the type of performances that cause the huge divide and debate that exists. When you watch him on a night like tonight - he looks so good - he looks like an obvious first choice. And the fact he’s able to have those performances, there was a quote in the athletic piece: “Kelleher’s greatest strength in previous seasons has been coming in cold and filling in for Alisson.” And that ability to seemingly come in cold and play really well gives the belief that he can do it for Ireland.

Equally Bazunu on his better days looks like a future star - and then you see him struggling at Southampton and then it’s natural to have doubts.

I suspect it’s a debate that’ll continue to rage for the next 8 years, as they both continue to progress

[ifk101]

The debate has indeed been Bazunu/ Kelleher centered but I wouldn’t rule out Travers. Thought he looked good and made a couple of top saves against NZ, and hopefully gets another loan move. He has shown he is a more than competent Championship standard goalkeeper and will continue to improve with game time.

Wonder, of the new manager names mentioned, if they would favour Travers ahead of Bazunu/ Kelleher. Travers is perhaps more suited to a conservative style of play, has a more physical presence, and arguably is equal to/ if not a better shot stopper than Bazunu/ Kelleher? Doubtful any of suggested managerial names will be encouraging the goalkeeper to put their foot on the ball/ play as a sweeper – something Bazunu/ Kelleher are more capable of doing than Travers. Feels like Travers is best suited to a compact, structured, physical, direct style of play which seems the path we might be going.

[LurcherLover]

Might be unpopular but he wasn't tested last night at all. They hadn't a shot on target until near the 70th minute and the few saves he made were from weak shots, 1 or 2 straight at him and that any keeper would have made. Also, as said above, his distribution was good for the most part, as there were a few dodgy moments were he tried to play it out and either over hit it and it went out for a throw or passed it straight to a LASK player. Good to see him getting some game time but not much to take from that game last night unfortunately.

[Eirambler]

I'd be surprised if Travers is ever really in the conversation barring serious injury to the other two. Great shot-stopper but there's serious flaws in his all round game. There's a reason he's the third choice keeper at Bournemouth. He's really good by Championship standards and in other positions or other eras that would have maybe been enough, but he's a distant third in this era I think.

[Stuttgart88]

Might be unpopular but he wasn't tested last night at all. They hadn't a shot on target until near the 70th minute and the few saves he made were from weak shots, 1 or 2 straight at him and that any keeper would have made. Also, as said above, his distribution was good for the most part, as there were a few dodgy moments were he tried to play it out and either over hit it and it went out for a throw or passed it straight to a LASK player. Good to see him getting some game time but not much to take from that game last night unfortunately.I only saw the first half and it was a mad watch, both teams intent on attacking at every opportunity. LASK’s CB even rouletted the ball past a pressing Liverpool attacker at one stage early on. While Kelleher had little to do he still could have conceded (with no fault attached) at least 2 because the Austrians absolutely wasted 3-4 breaks when they got inside the right full back but failed to square the ball to a waiting striker. For some reason Liverpool really left themselves open to this type of counter attack. The result was a foregone conclusion at HT so I switched off.

[third policeman]

Well (maybe very predictably) I disagree. He was quick and decisive to come out and smother the first chance, and showed very sharp reactions for the third save.

[Stuttgart88]

Twitter quoting Klopp yesterday on CK being capable of being no. 1:

"Yeah. No doubt. We see him everyday in training. Maybe we don't mention his name often enough but John Achterberg told me since day one, this will be our home grown boy, who will make it'."

I wish I hadn't switched off now. I assumed he had little to do in the second half.