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ontheotherhand
26/02/2022, 3:11 PM
I don’t think it’s just down to media training. There are plenty of players at both clubs who clearly haven’t derived much benefit from it. They have something about them that comes across as natural and part of their personality.

Agreed. They have a confidence that doesn't spill over into arrogance and it's combined with drive and, at least from hearing them talk, a bit of cop on and smarts. I don't think it's learned. Just bright lads.

ontheotherhand
26/02/2022, 7:16 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/from-ringmahon-striker-to-klopps-wembley-number-one-legend-of-caoimhin-kelleher-is-only-beginning-to-take-flight-41386418.html

SkStu
27/02/2022, 5:28 PM
I watched an interview with him yesterday and he comes across as a really decent, sound chap.

He is also clearly one of the best keepers we have for saving shots that are straight at him and making saves that you’d expect to be made.

Colbert Report
27/02/2022, 5:37 PM
He's conceded two goals here in the League Cup final but both have been called back. Made one great kick save off Lukaku right at the end of normal time.

Olé Olé
27/02/2022, 5:40 PM
He's conceded two goals here in the League Cup final but both have been called back. Made one great kick save off Lukaku right at the end of normal time.

Has conceded two goals that didn't stand due to offside. Has to be our third choice now.

Colbert Report
27/02/2022, 5:42 PM
Third choice after Bazunu and Travers?

Jd2793
27/02/2022, 5:47 PM
Some of the comments on here.... Jesus wept

Olé Olé
27/02/2022, 5:51 PM
Some of the comments on here.... Jesus wept

Invaluable contribution. You've really upped the standard with that post.


Third choice after Bazunu and Travers?

I was joking. I think highlighting the offside goals was a little harsh. I think he has been good overall and do chances as clear cut as those present themselves if Chelsea stay onside?

Interesting 15 minutes here now and maybe penalties which will be riveting.

Jd2793
27/02/2022, 5:53 PM
I'd prefer not to bother responding to a moron who claims he's conceded 2 goals that haven't actually counted.

paul_oshea
27/02/2022, 5:54 PM
Another one ruled out. I felt he should have saved that regardless

Colbert Report
27/02/2022, 5:59 PM
I think he should have saved all three of the offside goals. The last two were so close, and the second one wasn't offside from the angle I saw.

Should be great to see him here if it goes to penalties. Chelsea are subbing their goalkeeper.

SkStu
27/02/2022, 6:09 PM
Has conceded two goals that didn't stand due to offside. Has to be our third choice now.

Possibly 4th choice.

paul_oshea
27/02/2022, 6:19 PM
He might go the right way yet once

paul_oshea
27/02/2022, 6:23 PM
I've mentioned it before but I feel like he doesn't get across far enough that's a couple now where he didn't

Colbert Report
27/02/2022, 6:24 PM
At this rate, he's going to wind up taking a penalty himself.

Colbert Report
27/02/2022, 6:27 PM
Scores the cup winning penalty. Not a bad Sunday for Kelleher.

SkStu
27/02/2022, 6:27 PM
Possibly 4th choice.

Back up to third choice now with that.

osarusan
27/02/2022, 6:30 PM
21 coverted penalties in a row, before Kepa's miss.

Don't think it could go worse for a keeper subbed on for the shootout.

Olé Olé
27/02/2022, 6:38 PM
21 coverted penalties in a row, before Kepa's miss.

Don't think it could go worse for a keeper subbed on for the shootout.
The only way it could have gone worse was if Kelleher missed his penalty and Kepa conceded more. Kelleher took his very well.

pineapple stu
27/02/2022, 6:47 PM
So Bazunu in nets and Kelleher/Travers up front next month, yeah?

Olé Olé
27/02/2022, 6:47 PM
It's great to hear all of the Sky Sports panel praising Kelleher for his overall performance. Provides a nice balance to some Irish supporters here saying he should have saved shots taken by players with extra time on their hands and in better positions due to being, y'know, offside.

Diggs246
27/02/2022, 6:50 PM
Any link to his peno?
Thanks

ontheotherhand
27/02/2022, 6:54 PM
So Bazunu in nets and Kelleher/Travers up front next month, yeah?

Last man back.

Jd2793
27/02/2022, 6:55 PM
conceded 14 goals , shocking.

Eirambler
27/02/2022, 7:02 PM
Only 13 in fairness!

Delighted for him, but if it came down to penalties in a playoff game or at a finals tournament, of the three young keepers he's probably the one I'd least want to see in goal for the shootout.

Jd2793
27/02/2022, 7:09 PM
penalty shootouts at the top level have been going far beyond the usual 5/6 since they added var to check keepers staying on the line. i wonder will there be adjustments to penalty shootouts down the line as its hard to see those at the real elite level get worse at them.

Jd2793
27/02/2022, 7:12 PM
anyway great moment for kelleher, pretty decent 120 mins and a winning pen to boot. His choice to stay put and be no.2 at one of the best clubs on the planet vindicated.

Eirambler
27/02/2022, 7:26 PM
Yes, but is he reaching the limit of what he can do at Liverpool at this point? Might get a league winners medal this season. But Liverpool think they have the best keeper in the world in Alisson (not sure that's actually true). After tonight and if he wins the league, maybe that's the right time to move on?

liamoo11
27/02/2022, 7:57 PM
Yes, but is he reaching the limit of what he can do at Liverpool at this point? Might get a league winners medal this season. But Liverpool think they have the best keeper in the world in Alisson (not sure that's actually true). After tonight and if he wins the league, maybe that's the right time to move on?

Hi has 4 more years on his contract so hopefully liverpool can agree to a 2 season long loan for him this summer and make a decision in summer 2024 to maybe cash in on him or bring him back as number 1 which I think is unlikely as allison will only be going on 32 . I certainly don't think he will be at Liverpool next season

Jd2793
27/02/2022, 8:01 PM
Hi has 4 more years on his contract so hopefully liverpool can agree to a 2 season long loan for him this summer and make a decision in summer 2024 to maybe cash in on him or bring him back as number 1 which I think is unlikely as allison will only be going on 32 . I certainly don't think he will be at Liverpool next season

i dont see them loaning him out, hes gone beyond that stage after nailing down no2 spot imo. liverpool selling him when his exploits are still fresh in peoples minds wouldnt surprise me though summer transfer for 20mil maybe? if not i see him staying as no2 next season tbh and then a transfer out in 2023. id be in no rush if i was him either way.

ontheotherhand
27/02/2022, 8:15 PM
anyway great moment for kelleher, pretty decent 120 mins and a winning pen to boot. His choice to stay put and be no.2 at one of the best clubs on the planet vindicated.

Not completely sure winning the haribo cup changes his situation or vindicates much at all. Adds a bit more weight to the argument he should be looking for a number 1 spot if anything. Are you saying he will leapfrog Allison or take the Irish jersey off the back off today?

Either way it's great to see him win something and have the balls to stick the peno away. Delighted for him.

Olé Olé
27/02/2022, 8:20 PM
i dont see them loaning him out, hes gone beyond that stage after nailing down no2 spot imo. liverpool selling him when his exploits are still fresh in peoples minds wouldnt surprise me though summer transfer for 20mil maybe? if not i see him staying as no2 next season tbh and then a transfer out in 2023. id be in no rush if i was him either way.
They probably would get something close to that for him. They took Leicester for 12.5m for Danny Ward a few years ago. Kelleher has been given the opportunities to show much more at Liverpool.

seanfhear
27/02/2022, 8:20 PM
Surely even Liverpool will want him playing more games over the next year or two ? So if he is not playing those games for Liverpool then surely going out on loan has to be high on the agenda.

Jd2793
27/02/2022, 8:33 PM
Not completely sure winning the haribo cup changes his situation or vindicates much at all. Adds a bit more weight to the argument he should be looking for a number 1 spot if anything. Are you saying he will leapfrog Allison or take the Irish jersey off the back off today?

Either way it's great to see him win something and have the balls to stick the peno away. Delighted for him.

haribo cup? id suggest you grow up

im saying it vindicates his decision to stay on as no2 and be a part of one of the best clubs sides of the last decade. its an invaluable experience that people are seemingly not comfortable coming to terms with. the urge people have for him to go out and play games in champ or league 1 just because bazunu is doing it is strange, all players take different paths. liverpool have clearly been excellent with him upto this point, theres no reason for him to believe they arent looking out for him now by keeping him as no2 (which he has long cemented) by not letting him leave on loan.

liamoo11
27/02/2022, 8:36 PM
i dont see them loaning him out, hes gone beyond that stage after nailing down no2 spot imo. liverpool selling him when his exploits are still fresh in peoples minds wouldnt surprise me though summer transfer for 20mil maybe? if not i see him staying as no2 next season tbh and then a transfer out in 2023. id be in no rush if i was him either way.

2 years of first choice football hopefully with european football as well gives a chance to maximise his value for Liverpool and gives them more time to decide if he might be a first choice for Liverpool in time. There are not many keeper s with kellehers ability around so I can't see them eating him go for 20 million when he looks so comfortable when he plays for Liverpool

Jd2793
27/02/2022, 8:36 PM
Surely even Liverpool will want him playing more games over the next year or two ? So if he is not playing those games for Liverpool then surely going out on loan has to be high on the agenda.

i dont think they are worried about lack of games, if they were he wouldnt be no2 imo

ontheotherhand
27/02/2022, 8:48 PM
haribo cup? id suggest you grow up

im saying it vindicates his decision to stay on as no2 and be a part of one of the best clubs sides of the last decade. its an invaluable experience that people are seemingly not comfortable coming to terms with. the urge people have for him to go out and play games in champ or league 1 just because bazunu is doing it is strange, all players take different paths. liverpool have clearly been excellent with him upto this point, theres no reason for him to believe they arent looking out for him now by keeping him as no2 (which he has long cemented) by not letting him leave on loan.

Yowza. I just played 90 mins of football and feel every bit the age I am thanks very much. Nice day for the lad and I'm sure Liverpool fans will celebrate it but let's not get carried away. It's a cup you like to win but aren't too disappointed if you go out. Not taking away from Kelleher, but I'm not sure I agree that it vindicates anything.

Why do you think people only think Kelleher should find a number 1 spot because Bazunu is? It's fairly common in football circles to think playing games on a regular basis is good for your development. If Bazunu wasn't in the picture I'd still think Kelleher would be better off taking the number 1 spot elsewhere. I see why Liverpool fans think that's the be all and end all tho. If he was number 2 at shamrock rovers I'd probably want him to stay there too.....

I do like the idea that Kellehers path actually suits him better as I've said before in response to a few of the more interesting posts on here about his situation. Hopefully it eventually gets him a starting spot.

elatedscum
27/02/2022, 9:00 PM
Possibly 4th choice.

Let’s be honest. He’s behind Bazunu and Travers and O’Leary is tearing up the championship along with Bonham. Then there’s Lawlor getting rave reviews, along with Talbot who’s probably the best irish keeper in LOI. Not to mention McDermott over in Norway who’s deadly. And then there’s 50 cap Randolph who’s experience is unparalleled. So we’re already down to 9th there and we haven’t even touched Christy Pym or Premier League back up and experienced international Rob Elliott

ontheotherhand
27/02/2022, 9:01 PM
Let’s be honest. He’s behind Bazunu and Travers and O’Leary is tearing up the championship along with Bonham. Then there’s Lawlor getting rave reviews, along with Talbot who’s probably the best irish keeper in LOI. Not to mention McDermott over in Norway who’s deadly. And then there’s 50 cap Randolph who’s experience is unparalleled. So we’re already down to 9th there and we haven’t even touched Christy Pym or Premier League back up and experienced international Rob Elliott

Could we play a team of keepers?

seanfhear
27/02/2022, 9:13 PM
Let’s be honest. He’s behind Bazunu and Travers and O’Leary is tearing up the championship along with Bonham. Then there’s Lawlor getting rave reviews, along with Talbot who’s probably the best irish keeper in LOI. Not to mention McDermott over in Norway who’s deadly. And then there’s 50 cap Randolph who’s experience is unparalleled. So we’re already down to 9th there and we haven’t even touched Christy Pym or Premier League back up and experienced international Rob Elliott
That retired Mayo goalkeeper is probably still fairly good as well.

SkStu
27/02/2022, 9:15 PM
Let’s be honest. He’s behind Bazunu and Travers and O’Leary is tearing up the championship along with Bonham. Then there’s Lawlor getting rave reviews, along with Talbot who’s probably the best irish keeper in LOI. Not to mention McDermott over in Norway who’s deadly. And then there’s 50 cap Randolph who’s experience is unparalleled. So we’re already down to 9th there and we haven’t even touched Christy Pym or Premier League back up and experienced international Rob Elliott

I can’t argue with that tbh. :D

ontheotherhand
27/02/2022, 9:28 PM
.................Travers
Talbot Bazunu Westwood O'Leary
....McDermott Randolph Pym
O'Hara...............................Maher
.................Kelleher

I'd be happy enough heading to the Nations League with that. Stick John O'Shea on the bench to cover them all.

pineapple stu
27/02/2022, 10:03 PM
And sack Stephen Kenny and replace him with Niall Quinn

ontheotherhand
27/02/2022, 10:58 PM
And sack Stephen Kenny and replace him with Niall Quinn

Alan Kelly could come back as assistant......

DCWA
28/02/2022, 6:25 AM
I must say as I seen him start for one of the top couple of teams in the world in a cup final at Wembley I allowed myself to get carried away and think “how lucky we are to have such a good 7th choice keeper”.

Stuttgart88
28/02/2022, 7:58 AM
Surely we can all agree how satisfying it was to see Kepa utterly trash his (self-declared?) reputation for being a shoot out specialist? What he did in 2019 was pathetic.

sadloserkid
28/02/2022, 8:45 AM
Surely we can all agree how satisfying it was to see Kepa utterly trash his (self-declared?) reputation for being a shoot out specialist? What he did in 2019 was pathetic.

This times 1000. I enjoyed that as much as Kelleher's moment in the sun.

elatedscum
28/02/2022, 8:48 AM
I must say as I seen him start for one of the top couple of teams in the world in a cup final at Wembley I allowed myself to get carried away and think “how lucky we are to have such a good 7th choice keeper”.

The best 7th choice keeper in the world ;)

Stuttgart88
28/02/2022, 10:03 AM
Putting my helmet on here(!) but I still think some of the reaction I've seen to Kelleher's exploits yesterday has been OTT (not here I might add) so just dampening things down a little: I think he had a fine game and held his nerve well when he needed to. Not saving any of the pens that were on target was a bit disappointing but they were all good pens.

Nit picking - but just being objective - the two big saves were straight at him but I think good keepers (and I'd single out Alisson here who I think sometimes attracts some OTT accolodes), have a great habit of the ball hitting them.

I remember taking a non-football supporting pal to a late-career Paul McGrath game at Lansdsowne and McGrath did nothing particularly skillful that stood out. My pal said "he's not very mobile and the ball just keeps hitting him." I said that's why he's still so good.

Overall I think it's really clear now though that we have a proper grown up keeper who can handle big time football and big matches against really good teams. The little boy finding his feet in previous season's Carabou Cup games has matured. Good work by Liverpool.

seanfhear
28/02/2022, 10:51 AM
He needs to be playing games lads. He is big enough and old enough.