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GuisaSaigon
18/02/2011, 8:51 AM
fair play.one point though is that limerick never requested this extension and i see a galway fan asking for "fairness" ;) limerick had to come up with over 200,000 yo yos in three days while no other club had to have this "condition" sounds fair to me
Galway United had to come up with €1,700 and a piece of paper and got no extension, Limerick had to come up with 200,000 and did get an extension. Fair play the FAI way!
harps1954
18/02/2011, 9:02 AM
Galway United had to come up with €1,700 and a piece of paper and got no extension, Limerick had to come up with 200,000 and did get an extension. Fair play the FAI way!
Limerick had a condition attached to the awarding of their licence and were given four days to deliver on it. Limerick submitted all documentation that was required with their application.
Galway failed to submit vital pieces of documentation with their application. The fact they didn't have a Tax Clearance Certificate meant that they had monies due to the Revenue Commissioners. All 20 other clubs had their TCC in on time - when should Galway get an extension on time to deliver theirs?
Big difference between the Galway and Limerick situations. Limerick delivered everything they were asked for, but the FAI asked for subsequent guarantees over and above what was in the Licensing document. Galway failed to submit a completed application with all their relevent documents.
Trainee
18/02/2011, 9:05 AM
Rumour Galway united won the appeal
gufc4life
18/02/2011, 9:13 AM
Dont want to believe anything till its actually true
WoodquayBoy
18/02/2011, 9:14 AM
The fact they didn't have a Tax Clearance Certificate meant that they had monies due to the Revenue Commissioners. All 20 other clubs had their TCC in on time - when should Galway get an extension on time to deliver theirs?.
I would imagine the vast majority of clubs owe money to Revenue. Not having a tax clearance cert DID NOT mean we owed money, as it had been paid over, it meant that the cert was not issued on time
harps1954
18/02/2011, 9:20 AM
Also hearing that Galway have won - looks like an 11 team First Division this year.
SupaJon
18/02/2011, 9:41 AM
Congrats to Galway! Good to have you back. :highfive:
Feel sorry for Mons again though. :sad:
To have their hopes up for a week.
At least our walls will be safe for another year at least.
MysticMon
18/02/2011, 9:44 AM
maybe if yous actually had fondations for the walls they wouldnt collaspe.........
SupaJon
18/02/2011, 9:45 AM
maybe if yous actually had fondations for the walls they wouldnt collaspe.........
Fondations, eh?
Maybe that's where we went wrong! :cool:
pineapple stu
18/02/2011, 9:47 AM
Congrats to Galway! Good to have you back. :highfive:
Feel sorry for Mons again though. :sad:
To have their hopes up for a week.
Are Galway getting a Premier or a First Division licence though? (If the rumours are true)
SupaJon
18/02/2011, 9:49 AM
Are Galway getting a Premier or a First Division licence though? (If the rumours are true)
I would have assumed that if they were successful it would be a Premier license, given that the TCC meant no 1st or Premier license.
I could be jumping the gun here though......
harps1954
18/02/2011, 9:49 AM
Are Galway getting a Premier or a First Division licence though? (If the rumours are true)
It was a black and white case. Won, and they got their Premier Licence, if they lost it was the 'A' League.
It's great to see Galway back in the Premier, but for me it's another fudge from the FAI. Why have deadlines when quite simply they don't apply.
Jofspring
18/02/2011, 9:51 AM
Best not make statements like that, they have a tendency to come back to bite fans of League of Ireland clubs!
Ok I'll change that, currently we don't have any problems.
holidaysong
18/02/2011, 9:53 AM
Is the Galway news official then?
MysticMon
18/02/2011, 9:53 AM
Exactly Harps1954
gufcfan
18/02/2011, 9:58 AM
Official that Galway have had appeal upheld.
From GUST forum:
FAI CONFIRM GALWAY UNITED FC SUCCESSFUL IN CLUB LICENSING APPEAL
The Independent Club Licensing Appeals Body met this morning to consider Galway United’s appeal of the decision of the Independent Club Licensing Committee not to award the club a Premier Division Licence.
The Appeals Body noted that it is essential to good governance in football that all required documentation is supplied by its due date and in this particular case, they recognise that the onus was on the club to produce the appropriate evidence to the Club Licensing Committee.
The Appeals Body acknowledge that the tax affairs of the club were and are in order and it was clear that the club had made attempts to secure the appropriate documentation but due to exceptional events were unable to provide it on the date required.
Given the full circumstances that pertain to this case, the Appeals Body overturned the decision of the Club Licensing Committee and awarded a League Licence – Premier Division to Galway United FC.
WoodquayBoy
18/02/2011, 10:06 AM
Yup, it is official, back in Premier Division. Feel sorry for Monaghan fans who had got their hopes up, but obviously delighted with the news. Fans now run the club, hopefully the club's darkest days are behind it now
aidz1
18/02/2011, 10:13 AM
yet again 2 fingers to the rulebook.
Longfordian
18/02/2011, 10:13 AM
Fair play good luck with the season ahead.
total hoofball
18/02/2011, 10:17 AM
FAI make up the rules on the whim/chop and change their decisions shocker!
Monaghan should be absolutely livid
BonnieShels
18/02/2011, 10:20 AM
Happy for Galway but this is pathetic.
John83
18/02/2011, 10:44 AM
Fondations, eh?
Maybe that's where we went wrong! :cool:
Mmm, wall fondant.
http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo-thumbs-2/stockphotopro_57792QLX_.jpg
Jofspring
18/02/2011, 10:45 AM
I think that's what abbotstown was built with.
GuisaSaigon
18/02/2011, 10:49 AM
Big difference between the Galway and Limerick situations. Limerick delivered everything they were asked for, but the FAI asked for subsequent guarantees over and above what was in the Licensing document. Galway failed to submit a completed application with all their relevent documents.
Bohs delivered everything they were asked for too!
Licensing system is a joke and has to be reformed, having agreements in place means nothing if they are not honoured. As for our own situation it was clear that problems with the FAI and Revenue were to blame for us not getting our cert on time. The former CEO of GUFC Ltd did us no favours either. Galway united is now in the hands of the fans, we face a massive challenge to right the wrongs of the last few years but we are up for it.
"The Appeals Body acknowledge that the tax affairs of the club were and are in order and it was clear that the club had made attempts to secure the appropriate documentation but due to exceptional events were unable to provide it on the date required."
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What happened to the stuff about money being owed to football creditors? Was it only ever the tax cert that was in doubt?
holidaysong
18/02/2011, 10:52 AM
It's not Galway's fault that the Revenue wouldn't get off their holes and give them the necessary documentation. From reading their forum, the GUST crowd have worked their fingers to the bone to get this all sorted and fair play to them.
They still should never have been promoted in the whole IAG fiasco though. :p
gordongekko
18/02/2011, 10:56 AM
What happened to the stuff about money being owed to football creditors?
Ask the former bohs players about that !!!!
GuisaSaigon
18/02/2011, 10:58 AM
Agreements had been reached with football creditors prior to deadline but all payments had not cleared accounts, like Bohs. Payments have now cleared the accounts, unlike Bohs.
Invincible
18/02/2011, 10:58 AM
Only in the LoI.
El-Pietro
18/02/2011, 12:01 PM
so,
11 teams in the first? surely they cant allow that to happen? please promote cobh!
MysticMon
18/02/2011, 12:04 PM
fai make up the rules on the whim/chop and change their decisions shocker!
Monaghan should be absolutely livid
we are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Believe it
MysticMon
18/02/2011, 12:05 PM
Mmm, wall fondant.
http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo-thumbs-2/stockphotopro_57792QLX_.jpg
Pity yours wasnt built like that.....think you should take NOTE of this one!!!!!!!!!!
White Horse
18/02/2011, 12:09 PM
Monaghan should be absolutely livid
If Monaghan want to be promoted, they should do it on the pitch.
Dodge
18/02/2011, 12:10 PM
so,
11 teams in the first? surely they cant allow that to happen? please promote cobh!
Or relegate Limerick....
If Monaghan want to be promoted, they should do it on the pitch.
Just like Galway did. No, wait...
Maroon 7
18/02/2011, 12:21 PM
Delighted to be back but the FAI really made a unholy hames of the whole thing. Whatever about not awarding Galway Utd a licence earlier in the week they really jumped the gun by promoting poor Monaghan whose fans I really feel for. The FAI must have known almost immediately that Galway were going to appeal.
Terry-Lander
18/02/2011, 12:28 PM
Absolutely delighted but genuinely feel for Mons fans. The impending heartbreak of the last week was unbearable so I can only imagine how Mons feel after yet another body blow.
redobit
18/02/2011, 12:29 PM
AS soon as I heard Bohs had failed to pay the final amount due to the 2010 squad as scheduled, I knew Galway would get a Premier Licence.
Dodge
18/02/2011, 12:32 PM
Whatever about not awarding Galway Utd a licence earlier in the week they really jumped the gun by promoting poor Monaghan whose fans I really feel for. The FAI must have known almost immediately that Galway were going to appeal.
Did the FAI promote them? Didn't see anything except media speculation
Jofspring
18/02/2011, 12:39 PM
Or relegate Limerick....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUjh9Id6Id8&feature=related
osarusan
18/02/2011, 12:40 PM
Did the FAI promote them? Didn't see anything except media speculation
This is what I was wondering too. A premier licence doesn't mean you play there - Cork have one too, don't they? But we all put 2 and 2 together, and assumed Mons were up.
Jofspring
18/02/2011, 12:44 PM
This is what I was wondering too. A premier licence doesn't mean you play there - Cork have one too. But we all put 2 and 2 together, and assumed they were up.
Think Magicme said the club where informed they where promoted and then it was pending the outcome of the appeal.
pineapple stu
18/02/2011, 12:52 PM
Was it not to advise Monaghan to prepare for the Premier? Subtle distinction.
Jofspring
18/02/2011, 12:57 PM
Was it not to advise Monaghan to prepare for the Premier? Subtle distinction.
Ya I'd say your right. If they hadn't notified Monaghan I'm sure there would be plenty on here complaining the FAI didn't give Monaghan a chance to prepare.
atfconline
18/02/2011, 1:43 PM
“It’s great that our first game of the season is at home to St Pat’s. Pete Mahon and myself are very good friends so I’m really looking forward to that one,” he said.
http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/4934/
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcReas84hUCLUDLv7MNOw2XSZJmna2Ckl 0mYRpCH_zYuvkP7g3tp
SMorgan
18/02/2011, 3:14 PM
Sorry if Galway didn't have the documentation in on time then tough, they shouldn't have got their licence. In Northern Ireland Portadown were relegated to the First Division because there were traffic delays on the motorway and they didn't get their application for Premier Division membership in until 10 minutes after the time that they should have had their application in for.
Steveoc
18/02/2011, 3:23 PM
Somewhat different situation with Galway though as their "shortfall" in the documentation was outside their control. 'Twas the fault of our outdated red tape in the Revenue Commissioners where, when someone was out sick, no one else could sign a piece of paper. Thought such outdated practice had disappeared years ago.:mad::mad::mad:
Lim till i die
18/02/2011, 3:26 PM
Or relegate Limerick....
I reckon we'd have a fairly good tilt at winning the A League. :cool:
bluemovie
18/02/2011, 3:27 PM
So after 378 matches in the regular season, 8 play-off games and three months of off-field wranglings, the only change is Derry up and Fingal out? Which is ironic as last year, Fingal went up and Derry went out. Gotta love this league.
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