Licences 2011

[jebus]

Ah well that was a fun few days laughing at Galway anyway

Back into football exile I go to wonder why I ever give a flying fig about anything the FAI have their hands on

[CSFShels]

An 11 team First Division is simply unacceptable and the FAI really have to reconsider their position if they can't even fill the league positions or arrange it as such that the league is ready to begin 2 weeks before the league. ****ing ***** the lot of them.

[redobit]

So after 378 matches in the regular season, 8 play-off games and three months of off-field wranglings, the only change is Derry up and Fingal out? Which is ironic as last year, Fingal went up and Derry went out. Gotta love this league.

Hollywood couldnt make up a better story line

[bluemovie]

I'm really disappointed Cobh didn't come back up. What was the point in them playing Salthill in the play-off? Even if they'd won, they wouldn't have been promoted. How far off a licence are they? Should the FAI be helping them to get one and be the twelfth team? It's for everyone's benefit that they get a licence.

[CSFShels]

If they can find a way to make Drogheda eligible for a Premier Division licence, I'm sure they could have given a First Division one to Cobh. Jokeshop of an organisation.

[Lim till i die]

In another thread you were saying fairplay to the FAI for enforcing a bit of law and order around the place, now you want them to fudge a twelfth team into the First Division. :bulgy:

[Maroon 7]

Ah well that was a fun few days laughing at Galway anyway

Back into football exile I go to wonder why I ever give a flying fig about anything the FAI have their hands on

Sorry for your troubles jebus.

[bluewhitearmy]

Or relegate Limerick....

Already tried and failed to stop us getting a licence in fairness.

[Paddyfield]

I think you'll find that most LOI fans are very dissappointed for Galway. On a personal level I've nothing but good memories from many visits/overnighters, be it victories or defeats, and many great games of footie played between fans outside a certain pub.


Sorry if Galway didn't have the documentation in on time then tough, they shouldn't have got their licence. In Northern Ireland Portadown were relegated to the First Division because there were traffic delays on the motorway and they didn't get their application for Premier Division membership in until 10 minutes after the time that they should have had their application in for.

That reminds me of how Bohs threw away a League on the last day of the season because their bus broke down on the way to Oriel Park. All they had to do was take a point from Dundalk but they arrived late for the game and were unsettled by that and lost.

[MMVIII]

Pity yours wasnt built like that.....think you should take NOTE of this one!!!!!!!!!!

Get over it.

State of this league. Sympathies to Mons fans. Was looking forward to that trip.

[Ezeikial]

So after 378 matches in the regular season, 8 play-off games and three months of off-field wranglings, the only change is Derry up and Fingal out? Which is ironic as last year, Fingal went up and Derry went out. Gotta love this league.

I tend to find a sadness creeping into my soul at this time of year.

It's probably just a lament that the excitment of the close season is soon to come to an end. I'll shed a tear or two on the evening of 3 March and just try to find some way to comfort myself over the next 240 days 'till the real action starts again in November.

[gufc2000]

Fantastic news, justice has been done. For those fans of other clubs who were dancing on our graves last Monday, take a good long hard look at yourselves. To those who gave messages of support, thank you...good to see that there is a great amount of decency and respect out there amongst the LOI fraternity.

Such a contrast of emotion between today and last Monday, but thankfully everything has been resolved. This pre-season has been far too uncertain from a United point of view. Lets hope we never have to endure such an arduous winter period again.

Well done to all at GUST for the tremendous work they have done, Galway United is now well and truly in the hands of the fans.

Gut-wrenching for Monaghan though no doubt, completely wrong of the FAI to give them the impression that they were up. Monaghan should have been given preference over Drogheda imo. Best of Luck to all at Gortakeegan for 2011, hope ye get promotion this year, ye no doubt deserve it

[oriel]

People love a bad news story, and I`m sure a lot on here were excited with Galway's demotion to the 'A'. As it works out, their appeal was based on sound information and documents backing up they have things in order, so in this case, justice appears to have been done. And their place in the PD had to be restored.

Its tough on Mons, but also tough on all the other clubs in the FD awarded the 'Premier Licence' but with no invite. For me the main gripe for Mons should be with the FAI awarding a club like Drogs, who are reportably on their knees and also from reports totally incapable of performing in the PD next season a place instead of them (or even Waterford) or Cork, or Shels etc.

[John83]

Somewhat different situation with Galway though as their "shortfall" in the documentation was outside their control. 'Twas the fault of our outdated red tape in the Revenue Commissioners where, when someone was out sick, no one else could sign a piece of paper. Thought such outdated practice had disappeared years ago.:mad::mad::mad:
I'm inclined to be cynical and say that it's a clear sign of the truth about the efficiencies we were supposed to get from the civil service in return for the massive pay hikes over the past twenty years. Probably someone will eat my head off for it though.

[Mr_Parker]

Sorry if Galway didn't have the documentation in on time then tough, they shouldn't have got their licence. In Northern Ireland Portadown were relegated to the First Division because there were traffic delays on the motorway and they didn't get their application for Premier Division membership in until 10 minutes after the time that they should have had their application in for.

Portadown were not relegated. It was not a membership application, it was an application to be scored in a ranking system to gain admittance to the new league. Slightly pedantic I know, but it should not be confused with the Licencing process.

P.s It was not a traffic problem and they were 29 minutes late.

[apo11o]

I reckon we'd have a fairly good tilt at winning the A League. :cool:
Maybe not, Sligo Rovers have signed players that can't get a game in junior football:quiet:

[ped_ped]

So every weekthis year will see one Firt Division team not playing . . . right up to the final week, whereby one team will not be playing, and any promotion / play-off / relagtion play-off that club is involved in, rival teams may know exactly what they need out of the game while that club watches on with bated breath? Fair :)

[Mr A]

Unless Limerick don't get in. Then we're grand.

[born2bwild]

So, am I getting this right? There will be only 11 teams in D1 this year? Is this real? 'The FAI: employing people with special needs since 1921'

[sheao]

So, am I getting this right? There will be only 11 teams in D1 this year? Is this real? 'The FAI: employing people with special needs since 1921'

I know nobody from the A Championship got a licence , why don't they bring up somebody from that divsion .
Ramblers failed to get a 1st divison licence, but Im sure they and any other club that would come up would benefit more finanically .

[legendz]

So every weekthis year will see one Firt Division team not playing . . . right up to the final week, whereby one team will not be playing, and any promotion / play-off / relagtion play-off that club is involved in, rival teams may know exactly what they need out of the game while that club watches on with bated breath? Fair :)

It's not fair but the only way to bring some bit of fairness is that the lowest ranked club from last season will not be playing on the last day. With the FAI though can't see fairness happening. I think Limerick under the original fixture list were going to play 16 home games again this season, not 17 as it is supposed to be every second season.

[Jofspring]

Ya they never reversed the fixtures for the coming season which was very strange. As it stands Limerick and a few more will only have 15 home games.

[Sam_Heggy]

Ya they never reversed the fixtures for the coming season which was very strange. As it stands Limerick and a few more will only have 15 home games.

Harps will only have 14 home games and 16 away. I think anyone with 15 are in a pretty fair situation, having 15 home and 15 away. We also have no home game in the first month of the season with 3 away games (2 the other end of the country).
Hopefully there will be a re-draft of the fixtures early next week.

[Jofspring]

Ya there will be a redraft with everyone getting 15 and 15 I would think with one team having a free weekends during the season.

[legendz]

It's very sloppy work by the FAI if they are to reverse to fixtures every season. I still think the Danes have the better way of working the 33 games. The advantage of finishing in the top 6 is the extra home game for the following season. Good luck to Copenhagen next week by the way!

I'm sure there will be a re-draft, anything else will be ridiculous.

[colinf]

Maybe not, Sligo Rovers have signed players that can't get a game in junior football:quiet:

who's that exactly?

[total hoofball]

Harps will only have 14 home games and 16 away. I think anyone with 15 are in a pretty fair situation, having 15 home and 15 away. We also have no home game in the first month of the season with 3 away games (2 the other end of the country).
Hopefully there will be a re-draft of the fixtures early next week.

Did a quick tally of home/away fixtures with the Drogheda fixtures excluded

Cork, Limerick, Mervue, Monaghan, Salthill, Waterford and Wexford all have 15 home, 15 away. No problems there.

Harps and Longford have 14 home, 16 away while Athlone and Shels have 16 home, 14 away.

All that would have to be done is to simply swtich the venues of a batch of fixtures involving these 4 sides. Harps, Longford to gain a home match, Shels, Athlone to lose a home match. For example

Athlone home to Finn Harps on 30 April becomes Finn Harps home to Athlone
Finn Harps home to Athlone on 15 July becomes Athlone home to Finn Harps
Athlone home to Finn Harps on 15 October becomes Finn Harps home to Athlone

and the same reversal for the Shels/Longford matches

all the work done for the FAI administators right there

[legendz]

Good stuff! Foot.ie should get the contract for drafting the fixtures!

[Sam_Heggy]

Did a quick tally of home/away fixtures with the Drogheda fixtures excluded

Cork, Limerick, Mervue, Monaghan, Salthill, Waterford and Wexford all have 15 home, 15 away. No problems there.

Harps and Longford have 14 home, 16 away while Athlone and Shels have 16 home, 14 away.

All that would have to be done is to simply swtich the venues of a batch of fixtures involving these 4 sides. Harps, Longford to gain a home match, Shels, Athlone to lose a home match. For example

Athlone home to Finn Harps on 30 April becomes Finn Harps home to Athlone
Finn Harps home to Athlone on 15 July becomes Athlone home to Finn Harps
Athlone home to Finn Harps on 15 October becomes Finn Harps home to Athlone

and the same reversal for the Shels/Longford matches

all the work done for the FAI administators right there

Nah, Switch ours and Shels games, that way we would have a home game in the first month. Otherwise your spot on.

[Longfordian]

We'll take Athlone's extra home game, cheers.

[Dunny]

Magicme you are welcome to Oriel when we play Seanies team. Just dont bring a petrol canister ;)

[Jofspring]

Looks like we'll have to wait another day. Decision on Limerick to be made today but the FAI said no announcement till tomorrow for whatever reason.

[harpin]

Looks like we'll have to wait another day. Decision on Limerick to be made today but the FAI said no announcement till tomorrow for whatever reason.

Disgraceful

[Sam_Heggy]

so we have another day of waiting re:fixtures too?

The season starts on Friday week ffs.

[Magicme]

You sound annoyed and shocked Sammy boy.

[Sam_Heggy]

You sound annoyed and shocked Sammy boy.

Not easy if we're trying to get sorted for a trip to Cork.

I suggest shocked is an exaggeration also, slightly surprised would be closer to the mark.

[Magicme]

I've given up on planning for the season. Just gonna show up randomly places and cheer whatever team I feel like. So disillusioned that all the good is gone from loi for me.

[legendz]

They should keep the first week of fixtures as they are and make any changes for later in the season.

[Spudulika]

G.u.b.u.

[pineapple stu]

Galway up's a balls-up?

We know that.

[PartySaint]

I've given up on planning for the season. Just gonna show up randomly places and cheer whatever team I feel like. So disillusioned that all the good is gone from loi for me.

I think the FAI has been taken over by Vince Mcmahon, One team is on the pitch waiting to see who they are playing then the lights go out the music starts and Sean Conor just runs in and hits everyone with a stone cold stunner before downing 6 beers and getting the hell out of there

[Dodge]

So clubs surviving is a cause for you to become disillusioned? How bizarre...

[QUOTE=legendz;1456093]They should keep the first week of fixtures as they are and make any changes for later in the season.

The bye week for First division clubs is the problem. WHole fixture list needs re-arranging.

Unless Limerick don't get the lilcense, in which case; probelm solved.

[Magicme]

No dodge it was the handling of the situation and the fact that some clubs can have rules bent for them while others are expected to ensure they use the right brand if milk in the refs tea or get punished.

[Dodge]

No dodge it was the handling of the situation and the fact that some clubs can have rules bent for them while others are expected to ensure they use the right brand if milk in the refs tea or get punished.

What clubs have had rules bent for them? Specific answers please, and not just 'speculation' either.

[Sam_Heggy]

No dodge it was the handling of the situation and the fact that some clubs can have rules bent for them while others are expected to ensure they use the right brand if milk in the refs tea or get punished.

Donegal Creameries Milk obviously. It's the brand of teabag where the debate gets heated, we almost got turned down for suggesting Tesco Brands Jumbo pack but were given 5 days to return with Barry's tea. Close call.

[Magicme]

Ok, Galway: two new pieces of evidence provided at appeal despite rules clearly stating no new evidence is allowed.

Drogheda: premier licence granted for a stadium that doesn't meet criteria for years now.

Bray: stadium that is clearly in breach of health and safety for 2 years is passed yet again with out conditional licence but they are given time to knock walls and put in new fencing to comply.

Bohs: not able to pay players....again.

[Macy]

I'm inclined to be cynical and say that it's a clear sign of the truth about the efficiencies we were supposed to get from the civil service in return for the massive pay hikes over the past twenty years. Probably someone will eat my head off for it though.
I agree, it's all the public services fault that Galway left it until the very last days possible to come to an agreement with Revenue, over the debt they has built up over the year since the last cert, in order to get new tax clearance. There's no finer example of why benchmarking was wrong - GUFC are the perfect example from the private sector on how to do things properly. Could the revenue not have sent it out on a DVD FFS!

[Dodge]

Ok, Galway: two new pieces of evidence provided at appeal despite rules clearly stating no new evidence is allowed.
They didn't provide new evidence. They asked that the confirmation they had in place adn the fact it was the FAI's fault be taken into consideration. Fine with me


Drogheda: premier licence granted for a stadium that doesn't meet criteria for years now.
They installed about 1,500 seats last year so the 'for years now' comment is redundant. United park is fine


Bray: stadium that is clearly in breach of health and safety for 2 years is passed yet again with out conditional licence but they are given time to knock walls and put in new fencing to comply.

Ah would you stop?


Bohs: not able to pay players....again.
Where does licensing deal with this?

[Sam_Heggy]

I know the seated part of United Park was sorted but, was there not something about the dimensions of the pitch and the wall around the pitch?
Only curious here btw.

[marinobohs]

I agree, it's all the public services fault that Galway left it until the very last days possible to come to an agreement with Revenue, over the debt they has built up over the year since the last cert, in order to get new tax clearance. There's no finer example of why benchmarking was wrong - GUFC are the perfect example from the private sector on how to do things properly. Could the revenue not have sent it out on a DVD FFS!

.......Hello, is that Joe Duffy ? it is, well Joe... imagine, Revenue in Galway do not have the resources to immediately issue a certificate of clearance to GUFC and as for those wasters in the Dept of Sport, culture and other stuff we pretend to care about (to give it its official title) - cant drop everything and facilitate Bohs latest loan scheme (this is the final one, honest.). What public service I ask ?
I blame it all on Bertie..... and the unions.....and..and..it would be different in the private sector