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Charlie Darwin
04/01/2021, 12:36 PM
So you'd play a wing back at centre half and a guy who's not a wing back at wing back?

seanfhear
04/01/2021, 12:46 PM
So you'd play a wing back at centre half and a guy who's not a wing back at wing back?
I was suggesting that as Doherty gets older he may be able to play centre back to add a string to his bow. Doherty hasn’t really worked out for us as of yet. Coleman having lost a bit of his recovery pace may be better suited to being up the field in a more attacking position than at full back.

The whole Coleman / Doherty situation has not really worked out for us. Perhaps some imagination is needed.

Colbert Report
04/01/2021, 3:39 PM
So you'd play a wing back at centre half and a guy who's not a wing back at wing back?

I heard an interview with Doherty about a year or two ago, I think it was on the Second Captains podcast with Richie Sadlier. He claims that he's always been a centre back and will return to play centre back later in his career.

Charlie Darwin
04/01/2021, 3:51 PM
That may well be the case but it doesn't solve the wing back conundrum!

Olé Olé
04/01/2021, 3:56 PM
I heard an interview with Doherty about a year or two ago, I think it was on the Second Captains podcast with Richie Sadlier. He claims that he's always been a centre back and will return to play centre back later in his career.

Not sure if it was the same interview or another but I heard him specifically state that his father fancied him to be a centre back in the long term. This may well have been in the context of him doing quite well there against Wales so probably not the same interview.

Bielsa´s irish
04/01/2021, 5:46 PM
so far and according to the players at disposal I would go with this team in Belgrado.

-----------------------------------------Randolph----------------------------------------

---------------- Doherty -------------Egan-------------Clark--------------


Coleman-------------------Dara Oshea-------McCarthy----------------Stevens

---------------------------------------Brady-------------Robinson--------------------------

------------------------------------------------Connolly-------------------------------------

seanfhear
04/01/2021, 8:43 PM
so far and according to the players at disposal I would go with this team in Belgrado.

-----------------------------------------Randolph----------------------------------------

---------------- Doherty -------------Egan-------------Clark--------------


Coleman-------------------Dara Oshea-------McCarthy----------------Stevens

---------------------------------------Brady-------------Robinson--------------------------

------------------------------------------------Connolly-------------------------------------
Forget about McCarthy ~ ~ International football has just not worked out for him and its not going to start now !

CraftyToePoke
19/02/2021, 5:48 PM
Makes the Europa League team of the week.

https://tbrfootball.com/spurs-ace-named-in-uefas-europa-league-team-of-the-week-its-not-bale-or-lloris/

John83
20/02/2021, 2:49 PM
Probably off the back of his assist for Bale's goal against Wolfsberger.

Olé Olé
26/06/2021, 1:07 PM
Looking very much like Nuno Espirito Santo could end up the Spurs boss. I can't remember any negative fallout between him and Doherty from Doherty's Spurs move. They have a common agent. And Nuno's favoured formation suits Doherty to the ground.

seanfhear
27/06/2021, 7:14 AM
Or perhaps Matt could offer to manage Spurs himself as nobody else seems to want to manage Spurs !

Colbert Report
15/08/2021, 5:22 PM
Came on in the 83rd minute in Spurs season-opening 1-0 win over Manchester City. Great to see him get some time on the pitch as I think many of us were questioning if he had a future at Spurs.

liamoo11
15/08/2021, 5:24 PM
Came on in the 83rd minute in Spurs season-opening 1-0 win over Manchester City. Great to see him get some time on the pitch as I think many of us were questioning if he had a future at Spurs.

I don't know I thought spurs right back was immense today really good defensively which matt just isn't.

DeLorean
16/08/2021, 11:06 AM
I don't know I thought spurs right back was immense today really good defensively which matt just isn't.

He was, and even got motm so a bit ominous for Doherty despite his good relationship with Nuno. Doherty did actually play well in his brief cameo too though.

Diggs246
16/08/2021, 12:05 PM
It's a lesson in life...if u are happy and flourishing stay put

John83
17/08/2021, 8:21 AM
He was, and even got motm so a bit ominous for Doherty despite his good relationship with Nuno. Doherty did actually play well in his brief cameo too though.
One swallow doesn't make a summer. I think a match vs Man City isn't really representative of a typical EPL match. That lad spent the match at last ditch defending from Sterling. Most teams won't offer the same threat, and he'd be forced to play more positively. I wouldn't write off Doherty yet.

irishfan86
18/08/2021, 1:13 AM
Doherty will get plenty of game time, it was a horses for courses thing for sure. Nuno is a rare coach in that he regularly subs his wingbacks in or out. Oftentimes they’ll only last 60 min before he brings in fresh legs. I think the idea is he really wants his wingbacks to do a lot of running.

In matches where Spurs are expected to be the team in possession, Doherty will definitely start IMO.

liamoo11
18/08/2021, 10:08 AM
Doherty will get plenty of game time, it was a horses for courses thing for sure. Nuno is a rare coach in that he regularly subs his wingbacks in or out. Oftentimes they’ll only last 60 min before he brings in fresh legs. I think the idea is he really wants his wingbacks to do a lot of running.

In matches where Spurs are expected to be the team in possession, Doherty will definitely start IMO.

Doherty is the flat track bullies of wingback so.

Kingdom
18/08/2021, 10:24 AM
Doherty is the flat track bullies of wingback so.

And the Irish are great at funding and supporting flat track bullies!

seanfhear
18/08/2021, 11:42 AM
And the Irish are great at funding and supporting flat track bullies!
Go On, Go On, Go On.

John83
31/08/2021, 9:22 PM
https://www.football365.com/news/tottenham-seal-signing-emerson-royal-barcelona-25-8m
Spurs just spent £25M on a Brazilian international right back from Barca. That's a big challenge for Doherty.

EDIT: Rumours that Aurier's agreeing a contract termination, so Doherty's won that battle at least.

Eirambler
31/08/2021, 10:03 PM
Aurier has now left Spurs, but Doherty wasn't even starting before this new right back was signed, so presumably even less opportunity for him now.

John83
26/11/2021, 1:38 PM
Matt Doherty “shouldn’t wear a Spurs shirt again” after their loss to NS Mura in the Europa Conference League, according to Jamie O’Hara.

https://www.football365.com/news/pundit-spurs-doherty-alli-ndombele-sanchez-never-wear-shirt-again

At least he got a game. Sounds like he needs to buck up to keep playing all the same.

seanfhear
26/11/2021, 2:37 PM
Matt Doherty “shouldn’t wear a Spurs shirt again” after their loss to NS Mura in the Europa Conference League, according to Jamie O’Hara.

https://www.football365.com/news/pundit-spurs-doherty-alli-ndombele-sanchez-never-wear-shirt-again

At least he got a game. Sounds like he needs to buck up to keep playing all the same.
By the reports of the game that could be said about most who played. Didn’t the young fella Sessegnon (? ) get himself sent off after a half an hour. Anyway a blind pundit could see that Spurs need a clear out. Poch had got the best out of that Spurs team a few years back and it was plain to see that Spurs need a raft of new Players.

JR89
26/11/2021, 3:02 PM
I honestly don't see where Doherty would go even. The only team that might look at him would be Newcastle, but Doherty ain't walking away from that good contract he has at Spurs.

If Newcastle isn't an option I honestly would not be surprised to see him sign for someone like West Brom on loan in January. A loan move is the only way he's leaving this season. Even next summer it's probably another loan with an clause in there to make it permanent but they'll be covering a good portion of his wages for the next 2.5yrs if they want him out.

boynemunich
26/11/2021, 3:16 PM
I honestly don't see where Doherty would go even. The only team that might look at him would be Newcastle, but Doherty ain't walking away from that good contract he has at Spurs.

If Newcastle isn't an option I honestly would not be surprised to see him sign for someone like West Brom on loan in January. A loan move is the only way he's leaving this season. Even next summer it's probably another loan with an clause in there to make it permanent but they'll be covering a good portion of his wages for the next 2.5yrs if they want him out.

He could go back on loan to Wolves ? That being said I'm not even sure who they replaced him with. He's been solid for Ireland so hopefully he gets a run of games somewhere. Conte might see something different to Jamie O Hara as well which wouldn't surprise me. Conte won a league with Victor Moses at right back not so long ago so hopefully he sees his potential.

JR89
26/11/2021, 3:33 PM
He could go back on loan to Wolves ? That being said I'm not even sure who they replaced him with. He's been solid for Ireland so hopefully he gets a run of games somewhere. Conte might see something different to Jamie O Hara as well which wouldn't surprise me. Conte won a league with Victor Moses at right back not so long ago so hopefully he sees his potential.

I can't see Wolves wanting him back and they replaced him with Nelson Semedo who they paid like 28m for. Remember Wolves weren't forced to sell Doherty they wanted to sell him, and at the time I believe he was only second to TAA in stats.

Colbert Report
29/11/2021, 4:41 PM
He's only made two league appearances for a total of twenty-six minutes so far this season. His contract runs until June 30, 2024 at sixty-five thousand pounds per week, so I really don't see a move in the cards although we all know he needs one.

seanfhear
29/11/2021, 5:20 PM
He's only made two league appearances for a total of twenty-six minutes so far this season. His contract runs until June 30, 2024 at sixty-five thousand pounds per week, so I really don't see a move in the cards although we all know he needs one.
Great Dough. Maybe Conte will turn him in to a Centre Back ?

John83
29/11/2021, 6:10 PM
Oh God, I hope not. It's one of the few positions where we really aren't stuck for a player.

dynamo kerry
29/11/2021, 7:33 PM
Oh God, I hope not. It's one of the few positions where we really aren't stuck for a player.

Agreed

Anyway isn't it a bit early to say he should leave. Everyone in the spurs squad should be worried. If conte goes 5 3 2 then Doherty has a chance.

seanfhear
29/11/2021, 7:57 PM
Oh God, I hope not. It's one of the few positions where we really aren't stuck for a player.
Conte might not see it that way.

seanfhear
29/11/2021, 7:58 PM
Agreed

Anyway isn't it a bit early to say he should leave. Everyone in the spurs squad should be worried. If conte goes 5 3 2 then Doherty has a chance.
You’d like to assume the new manager would give everyone a fair crack of the whip.

paul_oshea
22/12/2021, 1:26 PM
https://theathletic.com/3019842/2021/12/21/tottenham-transfer-mailbag-dele-and-doherty-futures-and-the-search-for-a-striker/

Who would come in for him?

Sidenote whatever happened to the worm

Bielsa´s irish
05/01/2022, 8:18 PM
played really well today, was very good going forward and very menacing, but was replaced by a midfielder after they were 0-2 Tanganga who was woeful throughout kept his spot, This Conte didnt know his best 11 yet, Doherty and Lo Celso out the main 11 gives an image of Conte as a coach there

Stuttgart88
06/01/2022, 8:41 AM
Taken off at HT last night. He was playing on the left. Spurs had scored twice by that stage, each time for Chelsea. Not sure of the rationale for the change but Spurs looked like they got a rollicking by Conte at HT as they were much more potent in the second half. Chelsea should probably have got a third though.

I saw something online over Christmas that he might be on his way back to Wolves.

tetsujin1979
06/01/2022, 8:43 AM
bit surprised at that, he's done alright for us playing on the left

seanfhear
06/01/2022, 10:03 AM
Taken off at HT last night. He was playing on the left. Spurs had scored twice by that stage, each time for Chelsea. Not sure of the rationale for the change but Spurs looked like they got a rollicking by Conte at HT as they were much more potent in the second half. Chelsea should probably have got a third though.

I saw something online over Christmas that he might be on his way back to Wolves.Does he have a Portuguese Agent with connections to Wolves / Mourinho / Portuguese connections ?

JR89
06/01/2022, 10:04 AM
Taken off at HT last night. He was playing on the left. Spurs had scored twice by that stage, each time for Chelsea. Not sure of the rationale for the change but Spurs looked like they got a rollicking by Conte at HT as they were much more potent in the second half. Chelsea should probably have got a third though.

I saw something online over Christmas that he might be on his way back to Wolves.

Took him off for a midfielder and went four at the back.

Unless it's a loan move with Spurs covering a chunk of his wages I don't see clubs that interested in him.

JR89
06/01/2022, 10:05 AM
Does he have a Portuguese Agent with connections to Wolves / Mourinho / Portuguese connections ?

Yes, Jorge Mendes is his agent.

seanfhear
06/01/2022, 10:08 AM
Yes, Jorge Mendes is his agent.
Maybe he can get him a decent move. How does Doherty play at Centre-Back. Always a job for a decent Centre-Back.

jbyrne
06/01/2022, 12:21 PM
bit surprised at that, he's done alright for us playing on the left

far from the worst spurs player in the first half.
probably just a case of him being the obvious one to make way for a formation change given he was playing out of position.
spurs were a mess defensively in the first half

JR89
26/02/2022, 11:59 AM
Doherty playing well for Spurs today. A goal and an assist for Spurs, even if the second was all down Kulusevski's brilliance. Leeds are shocking and look like a team destined to go down.

Olé Olé
26/02/2022, 12:56 PM
He's having a good day. He put a cross into the box that Sessegnon couldn't get to but he did well. He got through for a goal chance too but Meslier was out fast. His movement has definitely bothered Leeds. We know they like to man mark so it's difficult for them to mark the wing backs, particularly when there's a transition of the ball from Leeds to Spurs.

third policeman
26/02/2022, 1:09 PM
He's having a good day. He put a cross into the box that Sessegnon couldn't get to but he did well. He got through for a goal chance too but Meslier was out fast. His movement has definitely bothered Leeds. We know they like to man mark so it's difficult for them to mark the wing backs, particularly when there's a transition of the ball from Leeds to Spurs.

Switched to left back now, following introduction of Emerson Royale.

Olé Olé
26/02/2022, 1:12 PM
Switched to left back now, following introduction of Emerson Royale.

And Emerson has made a bags of a chance. A much easier chance than the one Doherty had in the second half. I really can't understand how that guy has played for Barca and Brazil.

seanfhear
26/02/2022, 1:24 PM
And Emerson has made a bags of a chance. A much easier chance than the one Doherty had in the second half. I really can't understand how that guy has played for Barca and Brazil.
He has a great name ~ Emerson Royale ~ you’d just have to give him a game !

Fixer82
26/02/2022, 5:17 PM
I wouldn’t call the second goal a Doherty assist.
He was last Spurs player to pass to scorer but there was still a lot to do.

Good run from MD for first goal

Bielsa´s irish
01/03/2022, 8:09 PM
At fault for Crooks wide open header. Got out of gaol Doherty since that guy missed a sitter

gastric
07/03/2022, 9:43 PM
He played very well and seemingly the fans are becoming happier. Pity about Seamus' performance.

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