Matt Doherty D Wolves b.1992

[samhaydenjr]

Third goal of the season (and second game-winner) for Doherty against Newcastle. Should he be considered ahead of Coleman for the right-back position or should he be shoe-horned into a right side of midfield or left-back role? https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46416287

[Diggs246]

Third goal of the season (and second game-winner) for Doherty against Newcastle. Should he be considered ahead of Coleman for the right-back position or should he be shoe-horned into a right side of midfield or left-back role? https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46416287

I think he should play rigth back with Coleman in the advanced role. Coleman is excellent going forward. On the otherside i would have stevens left full with Brady in the advanced postion.

[liamoo11]

I think he should play rigth back with Coleman in the advanced role. Coleman is excellent going forward. On the otherside i would have stevens left full with Brady in the advanced postion.

Coleman is much better facing the play he has been quite sloppy in possession in recent games. Let him play in his best position not recreate another Christie fiasco. We are not going to be playing a traditional 442 anyway Mick said that time has passed so I can't see where he fits in unless it's right full or maybe right of a three if we play five at the back. Doherty to play left full for me use that ability to cut in and have a shot.

[CraftyToePoke]

I think he should play rigth back with Coleman in the advanced role. Coleman is excellent going forward. On the otherside i would have stevens left full with Brady in the advanced postion.

Which of the two is impressing more going forward recently ?

[irishfan86]

Doherty has been playing as a wing back and often is playing so far forward he’s basically a winger. I’d be open to playing him as a right winger or a left fullback for us and leaving Coleman at right full.

[Diggs246]

Coleman is much better facing the play he has been quite sloppy in possession in recent games. Let him play in his best position not recreate another Christie fiasco. We are not going to be playing a traditional 442 anyway Mick said that time has passed so I can't see where he fits in unless it's right full or maybe right of a three if we play five at the back. Doherty to play left full for me use that ability to cut in and have a shot.

The Christe comparison isnt correct
Coleman started as a right winger for Everton and played there at times for blackpool. I would play 4-5-1 and i think he will, using McGoldrick at the 10

[seanfhear]

Could Doherty play in the right side of a Back Three ? He has that bit of Height that can be useful in that position .

[DeLorean]

Doherty has been playing as a wing back and often is playing so far forward he’s basically a winger.

Alex Scott even referred to him as a winger on MOTD2 last night. I agree with Diggs that 4-5-1 might be our best bet, I'd go with Doherty as the winger though and leave Coleman RB.

[backstothewall]

Could Doherty play in the right side of a Back Three ? He has that bit of Height that can be useful in that position .

I'd be more inclined towards putting Coleman into a back 3. He's not as tall but it hardly matters in international football.

[liamoo11]

The Christe comparison isnt correct
Coleman started as a right winger for Everton and played there at times for blackpool. I would play 4-5-1 and i think he will, using McGoldrick at the 10

Coleman was a right full at sligo and went to everton as a right full. He played right midfield for a couple of seasons cause everton didn't think he could defend. He has lost pace and mobility unfortunately sine his horror injury and that will be even more exposed wide right where he is supposed to link with the front man and create. He was poor tonight and could find it difficult to keep his place at everton in the new year but hopefully he will turn it round

[irishfan86]

Coleman was a right full at sligo and went to everton as a right full. He played right midfield for a couple of seasons cause everton didn't think he could defend. He has lost pace and mobility unfortunately sine his horror injury and that will be even more exposed wide right where he is supposed to link with the front man and create. He was poor tonight and could find it difficult to keep his place at everton in the new year but hopefully he will turn it round

I think that’s a harsh assessment of where Coleman is at. IMO he is still among the best right fullbacks in the Premier League and still has plenty of pace.

Not a great day for him (unlucky OG and beaten by a running guy much bigger than him when he was defending from a standing position).

He is Everton’s captain for a reason and the suggestion that he could lose his place is ridiculous as far as I’m concerned.

[DeLorean]

I felt he was looking back to himself recently as well. Clearly a bad night last night but I agree it was more unfortunate than anything. He criticised his own performance at Old Trafford recently as a show of support to Jordan Pickford after the Anfeild error. I didn't see the full game but in the highlights he looked good in an attacking sense, but apparently Martial gave him a tough time at the other end.

[Diggs246]

Coleman was a right full at sligo and went to everton as a right full. He played right midfield for a couple of seasons cause everton didn't think he could defend. He has lost pace and mobility unfortunately sine his horror injury and that will be even more exposed wide right where he is supposed to link with the front man and create. He was poor tonight and could find it difficult to keep his place at everton in the new year but hopefully he will turn it round

Its just that we have no friendlies to prepare and learn and we know for a fact Seamus can play there, Matt hasn't played right wing ( wing back is totally different, as you know)
We will learn nothing from the Gibraltar game and we are straight into the Georgia game, which will be massive

[liamoo11]

Its just that we have no friendlies to prepare and learn and we know for a fact Seamus can play there, Matt hasn't played right wing ( wing back is totally different, as you know)
We will learn nothing from the Gibraltar game and we are straight into the Georgia game, which will be massive

That's fair enough. I don't see anything positive about having Doherty right full and Coleman in front of him on the right side of a 5 in midfield or vice versa. They are both full backs that's where they should play and Doherty has shown fine ability to play left full. Either in an advanced wide midfield/attacking role will minimise our potential for creativity. Brady, Robinson, judge, o dowda, mcgeady even Horgan all offer miles more creative potential on the right of a five man midfield.

[liamoo11]

I think that’s a harsh assessment of where Coleman is at. IMO he is still among the best right fullbacks in the Premier League and still has plenty of pace.

Not a great day for him (unlucky OG and beaten by a running guy much bigger than him when he was defending from a standing position).

He is Everton’s captain for a reason and the suggestion that he could lose his place is ridiculous as far as I’m concerned.

Maybe it is ridiculous but every everton fan I hear on talksport seems to say that right full and main striker are the Two positions they want to see streghtened in Jan to break into the top 6(cant see them getting top six really). He would be lost in midfield for us in my opinion and that would be unfair on a fine servent

[irishfan86]

Honestly Doherty is playing so far forward he's basically a winger. He's a great athlete, his crossing is good, and he makes good off the ball runs into the box. He's also shown an eye for goal. Shortly before scoring the winner, he came very close to scoring only to be denied by a pretty good save. Could easily have had two goals while playing as a wingback.

I appreciate there are nuances to the two positions and not every player can perform in both roles -- but based on what I've seen I think Doherty could be a winger. It's his excellent off the ball running that pushes me into thinking it could work.

I generally back the view Coleman should play at right fullback and Doherty then be deployed as a winger or at left fullback (assuming Coleman is available).

[SkStu]

Maybe it is ridiculous but every everton fan I hear on talksport seems to say that right full and main striker are the Two positions they want to see streghtened in Jan to break into the top 6(cant see them getting top six really). He would be lost in midfield for us in my opinion and that would be unfair on a fine servent

The general consensus amongst the Everton lot is that Coleman is not the player he was pre-injury. They still love him and rate him very highly though.

[Charlie Darwin]

Maybe it is ridiculous but every everton fan I hear on talksport
Jesus, rather you than me Liamo!

[liamoo11]

Jesus, rather you than me Liamo!

things haven't been the same for me Charles since my Swedish mistress left!

[tricky_colour]

Take him up to 15th in the stats, 2 in the top 30 now, Duffy at 27th not much outside that.


Wow he is now up to #9, all those above him play for Chelsea man city or Liverpool.

Not often have a player in the top 10!

Can he go all the way????

[seanfhear]

Wow he is now up to #9, all those above him play for Chelsea man city or Liverpool.

Not often have a player in the top 10!

Can he go all the way????O’Neill / Keane did not rate this Guy . Perhaps thats one of the many reasons that they are now unemployed !

[Diggs246]

Doherty has been playing as a wing back and often is playing so far forward he’s basically a winger. I’d be open to playing him as a right winger or a left fullback for us and leaving Coleman at right full.

I was watching him the other day and he is very good, but and he is nowhere near fast enough to play as an out and out winger.

[Stuttgart88]

I think he meant wide midfielder rather than out and out winger.

[tricky_colour]

He just dropped out of the top ten with a below par performance at Fulham but got a good rating at Spurs following that with an assist, it is a tough job maintaining such a high rating you need to be performing well pretty much every game.

[tricky_colour]

https://youtu.be/2b2Y1ca_r1w?t=201
Assist v Spurs

[liamoo11]

Dropped today? Their full backs have been outstanding today

[Olé Olé]

Ah. It's a bit dramatic to assume he was dropped. He's played more than anyone and has been in good form. It's clearly just a rest.

[tricky_colour]

Dropped today? Their full backs have been outstanding today


Ah. It's a bit dramatic to assume he was dropped. He's played more than anyone and has been in good form. It's clearly just a rest.

Did not have a good game v Man City.
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2019/01/15/wolverhampton-wanderers-fans-react-to-matt-dohertys-display-agai/page/1/

[DeLorean]

You'll find whatever you're looking for on Twitter, to be fair.

[tricky_colour]

All I can find is talk of a move to Liverpool.

[Diggs246]

https://highlightsfootball.com/video/shrewsbury-town-vs-wolves-highlights/

Scores equalizer

[tricky_colour]

Knew it would be a header!

[geysir]

I was cheering for the other team.

[jbyrne]

2 goals for wolves in the cup tonight

[MancIrishWolf]

Wolves fans heaping the praise here... timely rise with Coleman appearing to be struggling at Everton - fans on his back on Saturday, although hopefully a good pre-season after Injury will see him right. https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/index.php?threads/the-irish-alves.209621/

[irishfan86]

I know he’s playing as a wing back not a winger but really believe he has the qualities to play there for us. Would like to see Coleman at right full and Doherty at right wing and see how that works. He has an eye for goal and is still technically good — and while Coleman isn’t the player he was he still has a lot to offer in my view.

[Olé Olé]

Well given that he's been able to score goals this season at club level then you would hope he could translate that to international appearances, particularly further forward. Big ask with many variables but it would be great.

Remember how Mick played Duffer up front with/off Robbie as Kilbane was a good option on the left wing so we got both in.

[liamoo11]

I know he’s playing as a wing back not a winger but really believe he has the qualities to play there for us. Would like to see Coleman at right full and Doherty at right wing and see how that works. He has an eye for goal and is still technically good — and while Coleman isn’t the player he was he still has a lot to offer in my view.

I really hope we don't move either Coleman or Doherty into midfield. If we play 5 in midfield we need creativity and guile in the 2 wide areas the likes of Brady, Robinson,o dowda, mcgeady,judge or Crowley if he comes on board. Someone who is comfotbale taking the ball with their back to goal not just coming forward onto the ball.

If we are playing 2 up top with a diamond type 4 in midfield again those wider 2 need a range of passing and awareness that's wider than an attacking wing back. If we play 5 at back or flat 4 I think he would be a fine option either left or right especially if trust in Stevens is still in it's infancy.

[tricky_colour]

2 goals for wolves in the cup tonight

also an assist


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yEv6yzwgNs

mind you Shrewsbury are not real Madrid.

[Olé Olé]

The Guardian are heavy in praise of Doherty's performance in the cup against Bristol City. He seems to attract a lot of praise in the English media for his performances this season and is notoriously one of the key attacking weapons in the Wolves side.

The forms have gone out to clubs and players for the PFA team of the year. Is it good timing for Doherty to be named right back?

[irishfan86]

I watched the match and he was very, very good. He set up the winning goal and then hit the post a few minutes later with a shot that was deflected. In a Wolves team loaded with talent, he stands out as a key contributor.

[tricky_colour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm7pMhXfD3s
Shame Doherty and O Dowda were drawn together, someone had to go out, thought it would be Bristol City Wolves are a very decent side,
only the top teams have beat them recently.
They have a tough draw v Man U though.

[Red_Devil]

Wolves also a tough draw for Man United. Wouldn’t rule out Doherty getting to a Semi Final.

[tricky_colour]

Wolves also a tough draw for Man United. Wouldn’t rule out Doherty getting to a Semi Final.


Quite an interesting FA Cup I think, probably Man U's only chance of winning any thing.

There are few more Irish players still involved including a couple at 50-1 Millwall who knocked out Everton.

[Red_Devil]

Quite an interesting FA Cup I think, probably Man U's only chance of winning any thing.

There are few more Irish players still involved including a couple at 50-1 Millwall who knocked out Everton.

Would nice to see an Irish player as an FA cup winner but as a united fan I’ll have to root for Man U!

[Diggs246]

Dropped or rested ( on bench today)

[Olé Olé]

Matt Le Tissier is doing an interesting variation on the pronunciation on Soccer Saturday today. He's strayed away from "Dockerty" to a more acceptable "Dough-erty".

[tetsujin1979]

First goal of the season in his first appearance of the season, away to Pyunik Yerevan in the Europa League

[tricky_colour]

https://youtu.be/Bc_yZYU3TAE

[tetsujin1979]

Scored tonight for wolves in the Europa league, first Irish player to score in the group stages in three years