Conor Sammon F Alloa Athletic b.1986

[pineapple stu]

Vaguely remember reading about it one time, but it's something to do with it being an army base alright. Stuff like this (http://www.basildonrecorder.co.uk/archive/2006/02/10/Essex+Archive/5545148.Colchester__Fight_began_with_a_song/).

(Not saying it's a major issue; just that it's silly to say one club is anti-Irish and others aren't. I've been in the middle of the Ashton Gate home support while they were belting out "No surrender to the IRA" for example)

[TenaciousDee]

He is in good form presently but it has taken him 2 and a bit seasons to get a decent run of performances but on the basis of his career in Scotland and not just the past 4 months he isn't good enough for Leeds or any club in the top end of the championship quite yet. But I am not against him getting a call up to the Irish squad for a friendly or two because as someone said Cillian Sheridan is called up regularly and isn't that good of a player.

[CraftyToePoke]

Vaguely remember reading about it one time, but it's something to do with it being an army base alright. Stuff like this (http://www.basildonrecorder.co.uk/archive/2006/02/10/Essex+Archive/5545148.Colchester__Fight_began_with_a_song/).

(Not saying it's a major issue; just that it's silly to say one club is anti-Irish and others aren't. I've been in the middle of the Ashton Gate home support while they were belting out "No surrender to the IRA" for example)

Joe Dunne is assistant manager at Colchester at present

[ArdeeBhoy]

In the context of experience of Ingerlish club fans over many years, including leafleting their own fans with anti-Irish propaganda up to the mid/late 90's was at Ch*lsea.
Though the average nouveau Ch*lsea fan or tourist now would have little idea about their 'No Surrender' nonsense.

[Gather round]

Would hate to see an Irish player go to Rangers due to their long history of anti-Irishness and fascist associations

Last time I looked there was an ex RoI international on the Rangers coaching staff, apart from all the players from Northern Ireland.

[Gather round]

Aren't Chelsea and Colchester (to name but two) historically considered anti-Irish?

Depends what you mean by historically. Chelsea's core support area in inner South London- Lambeth, Battersea and Wandsworth- has long had an Irish immigrant population, and thus many Irish fans.

You heard anti-Irish chants etc. in the 80s, when I went regularly. Just like at pretty much every other big ground in England at the time.

[ArdeeBhoy]

Last time I looked there was an ex RoI international on the Rangers coaching staff, apart from all the players from Northern Ireland.

Good for Kernaghan. It must be that he played for the North at schoolboys level that swung it....


Depends what you mean by historically. Chelsea's core support area in inner South London- Lambeth, Battersea and Wandsworth- has long had an Irish immigrant population, and thus many Irish fans.

You heard anti-Irish chants etc. in the 80s, when I went regularly. Just like at pretty much every other big ground in England at the time.
By comparison to other parts of London it was much less.
And judging by the no.of old Ch*lsea who followed Ireland, those were very low indeed. Nor did they generally want to advertise their affiliation, which they were embarrassed by.

As for anti-Irish chants, like 'No Surrender', these didn't go mainstream until the mid-90's at the earliest.
And would have been heard more frequently at the Bridge, say over Arsenal & QPR where there was much more support for Irish nationalism at the time.

[third policeman]

Personally I would love to see an ROI player sign for Rangers, and I imagine most Rangers fans would actually be OK with it too. Rangers have been playing Catholics from all over Europe forthe last decade or more and their fans have been pretty cool with it. Both Celtic and Rangers need to continue to push the envelope and de-sectarianise their respective brands as much as possible.

Also dont think it exactly helps to accuse Rangers of being "anti-Irish" when they have three NI players in their first team squad. To imply that NI players aren't Irish is to apply the very kind of discrimination that you are ostensibly criticising.

[Charlie Darwin]

I don't think it's Catholics Rangers ever really had an aversion too. It's Irish Catholics.

[third policeman]

I don't think it's Catholics Rangers ever really had an aversion too. It's Irish Catholics.

For a long time it certainly included Scottish Catholics. It's one step at a time, and they should be encouraged to go the whole way. It's 50 years since Bertie Peacock became the first Irish Protestant to play for Celtic, so its long overdue. Genuinely hope it happens soon either for Sammon or someone else.

[SkStu]

seriously lads, getting way off topic here. Can we leave the political/historical stuff for other threads (ones that i can easily ignore!)?

[Stuttgart88]

Both Sammon & Rooney getting praise from commentators on BBC Radio scotland tonight.

[Colbert Report]

How much is this guy really worth? Reading this thread it seems as if people think he's worth somewhere between 400k and 4 million pounds.

[Stuttgart88]

Probably closer to 400k, but credit where it's due. Radio Scotland says that he was played wide for the most part last season but now he's playing centrally he's revelling in it.

[pineapple stu]

How much is this guy really worth? Reading this thread it seems as if people think he's worth somewhere between 400k and 4 million pounds.
Are you aware of the meaning of the word "sarcasm"?

[Colbert Report]

Are you aware of the meaning of the word "sarcasm"?

No, I've lived in Canada for far too long. SkStu knows what I'm talking about.

[pineapple stu]

In that case, no-one's saying he's worth 4m. It was sarcasm.

[outspoken]

He has today been linked with a move to Celtic as I predicted in today's sun newspaper 400k the figure been touted , if he plays another 2 games he is entitled to another year on his contract but his club are reportedly keen to give him a longer contract but they are a bit short on cash they reckon and the offer might be too much to turn down that's the article in a nutshell

[Philly]

With Kenny Miller looking set to leave the SPL this week, Sammon will now be the top scorer in the SPL, one of three players in the top 10. He has come a long way since his days of missing chances for UCD, hopefully things continue to get better for him!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/scot_prem/top_scorers/default.stm

[outspoken]

Just revealed moments ago on sky sports news that Connor Sammon looks set for a move to English Championship Side Scunthorpe

[ArdeeBhoy]

Could be a good move, as a stepping-stone, though not exactly high-profile. And Scunny will undoubtedly get relegated.

[gastric]

Article in today's Indo in relation to his poosible move to Scunthorpe. In my opinion, he would be better waiting until the summer and try getting a move to Sheffiled Utd rather than play in Division one next year.


http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/sammon-switch-to-relegation-battlers-scunthorpe-requires-leap-of-faith-2499956.html

[TrapAPony]

Scored again today v Dundee Utd

[OwlsFan]

Just revealed moments ago on sky sports news that Connor Sammon looks set for a move to English Championship Side Scunthorpe

That would be a big leap for Sammon.

[Colbert Report]

*crickets*

[SkStu]

*crickets*

:D :D

http://blogs.targetx.com/snhu/ChrisDupuy/Tumbleweed.jpg

[Cuyahoga]

Connor sammon going to Wigan.

[Closed Account]

Connor sammon going to Wigan.
Thats a big leap.

[paul_oshea]

Ba dum tish.a leap of 'fate' or the sammon of knowledge

[Charlie Darwin]

First hit on Twitter: "Who the **** is Conor Sammon?"

[tommy_c12000]

Connor sammon going to Wigan.

Have u a source?

Sorry just found it on SSN

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11682_6714868,00.html

[tetsujin1979]

Martinez must have a scout in the SPL? Caldwell, McCarthy, MacArthur and Sammon (if it goes through) all recruited in the last 18 months

[Sullivinho]

Talking to Wigan atm according to SSN.

[Charlie Darwin]

All but done according to Daniel McDonnell:

"All agreed on Conor Sammon to Wigan. Should be announced presently."

http://twitter.com/#!/McDonnellDan/status/32194405507010560

[Drumcondra 69er]

Great move for him, delighted and well deserved.

[Noelys Guitar]

Great move.

[tetsujin1979]

Confirmation on Wigan's site: http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10429~2281480,00.html
3 1/2 year deal

[rebelmusic]

Fantastic news. If he can bring his SPL form to the PL he'll have to be considered.

[SwanVsDalton]

What a turnaround. From failing to hit a barndoor with a banjo at the Brandywell to the Prem in three seasons. I really wish him well and am looking forward to how he copes, but it's still totally preposterous. Well done big man.

[Charlie Darwin]

What he lacks in natural ability he seems to make up for with hard graft.

[Colbert Report]

Is he good enough for the Premiership? Might not be the best move for him if he's just going to sit on the bench.

[Charlie Darwin]

I think Martinez will definitely give him a chance to impress. He's tried a few different players with Rodallega and none of them have been able to put the ball in the net, so there's definitely room for somebody to make their mark.

[tetsujin1979]

Rodallega is their best striker this season, with only 6 goals, the other two recognised strikers at the club (Di Santo and Mcmanaman) only have a goal between them.
On form alone, he should be worth a place on the bench

<EDIT>

Interview with Sammon on Wigan's site: http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/articles/20110131/exclusive-conor-sammon_2265378_2281545
needs a subscription though

[Nedser]

Martinez must have a scout in the SPL? Caldwell, McCarthy, MacArthur and Sammon (if it goes through) all recruited in the last 18 months

I would say the fact he signed Gary Caldwell suggests the opposite!

[TrapAPony]

http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/javaImages/8a/28/0,,10429~9382026,00.jpg

[Serb]

Another Irish striker in the Premier League, can't complain. I hope it works out for him.

[CraftyToePoke]

It's all points of view i suppose, but imagine being a Wigan fan tonight, Prem survival on a knife edge, last day of the window, last chance to buy some badly needed goals and here comes Connor Sammon from Kilmarnock, who might have been a Scunthorpe player last week.

Anyway, great to see him get the chance and as someone else said, at club who have shopped cleverly in Scotland of late. Here's to him scoring the goals to keep them up, and the baying for more Trapattoni blood for ignoring him even if he does.

Sammon Of College.

[Nedser]

What a turnaround. From failing to hit a barndoor with a banjo at the Brandywell to the Prem in three seasons. I really wish him well and am looking forward to how he copes, but it's still totally preposterous. Well done big man.

I can't say I have spent a lot of time watching him, but it dose seem pretty bizarre. It's not as if his form at Kilmarnock was hugely noteworthy. In fact, according to Wikipedia he has only scored 33 goals in his entire senior career (over 6 years), and about half of them were in the LOI (mostly for UCD). It's not like he's just a kid either. I can only assume there is a lot more to his game than goals, but it's pretty rare for a striker to get plucked from obscurity like this unless they score a barrel load.

Anyway despite my disbelief I also wish him well!

[Schumi]

It's not as if his form at Kilmarnock was hugely noteworthy.

15 goals in 20 games this year isn't bad.

[Nedser]

15 goals in 20 games this year isn't bad.

Fair point! I hadn't realised he'd scored that many this year, I just looked at his overall record with Kilmarnock.

That certainly suggests he's finally found his scoring form, and I assume that's what attracted Wigan. However, the flip side is it makes his record before the start of this season look incredibly bad! It seems he scored only 1 league goal in each of his first 2 SPL seasons, on the back of just 3 in his last LOI season. Still not convinced he's cut out for the Premiership!