Clare League 2010/11

[outleft]

Bridge Celtic not involved, I guess planners wishes to discuss Rineanna Rovers V Hermitage

[Planners]

Lads i have edited my post to show Hermitage - sorry about that - - i dont know enough about what happened yesterday but my understanding is that the ref called off the game and i said i'd put up the rule for the interested posters ,

[Stanley]

Just to add to Planner's posting of the rules.

From the Clare League Website - Disciplinary Guidelines;

SENT OFF; Threatening referee or assistant referee
– immediate suspension of person involved.
Minimum: Six match suspension

SENT OFF; Serious verbal abuse of referee or assistant referee
Minimum: Six match suspension

Players or officials sent off for foul and abusive language will carry a minimum €100 fine

[Kicks]

ref was a joke if he had waited 2 mins the person on the sideline would have left like he was told to do but the ref had no interest in seeing the game carry on

[the lobster]

ref was a joke if he had waited 2 mins the person on the sideline would have left like he was told to do but the ref had no interest in seeing the game carry on

Sorry if i'm wrong but i heard that a player got sent off, was there another incident. If so, what went on, hard to understand from the few post above.

[LazyLegs]

Heard a rineanna player got sent, maybe harsh or not. Who cares! What happened after was wrong if true. Heard a rineanna official was asked to leave the pitch because of his verbal misconduct. He refused and the referee called the game. That shouldnt be happening. Wonder what the outcome will be? Seems Planners has the solution before realising the actual problem!

[avenueC]

surely youve had a chance to find out the details from your club mates and let us know what really happened,,
but of course, we here on the forum would never involve ourselves in conjecture

[footballfriend]

Was prob a sending off...cant swing arm back like that..game shouldnt have went ahead if the ref says you cant slide tackle because of the condition of the ground.i dont think the rineanna sideline helped the players cause by roaring at the ref.although the refs attitude did stink.

[the lobster]

ref was a joke if he had waited 2 mins the person on the sideline would have left like he was told to do but the ref had no interest in seeing the game carry on

Well if he was sent from the line, why should the ref have to wait 2 mins for him to leave? Just get off and game can go ahead.


Heard a rineanna player got sent, maybe harsh or not. Who cares! What happened after was wrong if true. Heard a rineanna official was asked to leave the pitch because of his verbal misconduct. He refused and the referee called the game. That shouldnt be happening. Wonder what the outcome will be? Seems Planners has the solution before realising the actual problem!

Well that make it a bit more clear thanks.

[Stanley]

Anyone hear what happened at the Rhine v Kilmaley match? Rhine had 2 sent off, according to the league website, and the referee involved was Martin O'Brien, one of the league's better ref's...

[Predators]

Tulla have always been a good hard physical team to play against. Like any other team they have their off days including the manager. They gave newmarket too much respect a few weeks ago and ended being down 3-0. Manager changed the formation. It was a good result for them at the weekend. Still conceding alot of goals though.

[mouldedstuds]

The league is wide open this season. Promoted teams doing very well an that's good to see.
At the moment it's very much advantage Newmarket. Points in the bag and good momentum since the avenue defeat. Which will be a big motivation factor next Sunday. Should be a cracker !! I'm going for a draw and whoever scores in e.t to win.
Tulla looked good last Sunday, scoring but conceding a bit too.
Think bunratty and bridge are in big trouble at the bottom and I'm sure if avenue get to play a league match they'll pull away up the table.

[twofooted]

Regarding the the issues surrounding the league last week:Nobody likes to see games pulled and the fact it happened twice was wrong but if the teams involved will learn their faith,what happened was out of character in the clare league.Other issus in the clare league needed to tackled quickly like the professionalism with fixtures.The weather last week was poor with freezing condisions damaging pitchs.Certain teams must have known their pitch might be suffering from the elements,but they refuses to commicate with the opposing team about the match going ahead.A team which comes to mind to mind is Bridge Celtic,who three times this year have allowed teams travel to their pitch for the match to not go ahead.Last week Rineanna went down which is a 40 min drive with a couple of players taking time off their studies for the games to be called off 5 min before kick off.Rineanna were togged and ready to start the game.The problem i have with this is the ref was willing to allow the game go ahead once both teamd agreed to it.Bridge celtic thought it was too bad!!!So why didnt they ring and say it was unplayable,instead of wasting people time.They did the exact same thing to Shannon O 2 weeks earlier.They are a joke.Gort travelled down to bunratty sunday morning only for the ref to forget to ring them about the game being off,joke!!! The clare league should make teams responible for this it.

[Kicks]

[QUOTE=the lobster;1433808]Well if he was sent from the line, why should the ref have to wait 2 mins for him to leave? Just get off and game can go ahead.


of course he should have gone straight away when he was told to but the ref should have had a bit of common sense and realised that he was going to leave and that there was no need to abandon the game,the ref told him to leave he said no and then straight away the game was called off the ref didn't even warn him that he was going to call the game off.Also dont understand how the ref can make up rules before the game started by saying that he was going to give a yellow card for anyone who made a slide tackle,the clare league used to allow 5 subsitutions in the league but they had to change this to 3 because the fai wanted all leagues in ireland to have the exact same rules and regulations but yet the ref can decide for there to be no slide tackles which is a pretty big part of the game how does that make sense?

[outleft]

Regarding the the issues surrounding the league last week:Nobody likes to see games pulled and the fact it happened twice was wrong but if the teams involved will learn their faith,what happened was out of character in the clare league.Other issus in the clare league needed to tackled quickly like the professionalism with fixtures.The weather last week was poor with freezing condisions damaging pitchs.Certain teams must have known their pitch might be suffering from the elements,but they refuses to commicate with the opposing team about the match going ahead.A team which comes to mind to mind is Bridge Celtic,who three times this year have allowed teams travel to their pitch for the match to not go ahead.Last week Rineanna went down which is a 40 min drive with a couple of players taking time off their studies for the games to be called off 5 min before kick off.Rineanna were togged and ready to start the game.The problem i have with this is the ref was willing to allow the game go ahead once both teamd agreed to it.Bridge celtic thought it was too bad!!!So why didnt they ring and say it was unplayable,instead of wasting people time.They did the exact same thing to Shannon O 2 weeks earlier.They are a joke.Gort travelled down to bunratty sunday morning only for the ref to forget to ring them about the game being off,joke!!! The clare league should make teams responible for this it.


Are you trying to move away from the fact that yer game was abandoned last weekend?
With regard to Bridge Celtic not calling off the match, the ref made the call that the pitch was unplayable.
The reason that Bridge Celtic did not make the call, was previously they called off a match for a water lodged pitch, the ref was not informed by the league so he showed up and said the match could have started but would not have finished so the league issued the club with a fine.

[b777b]

[QUOTE=the lobster;1433808]Well if he was sent from the line, why should the ref have to wait 2 mins for him to leave? Just get off and game can go ahead.


of course he should have gone straight away when he was told to but the ref should have had a bit of common sense and realised that he was going to leave and that there was no need to abandon the game,the ref told him to leave he said no and then straight away the game was called off the ref didn't even warn him that he was going to call the game off.Also dont understand how the ref can make up rules before the game started by saying that he was going to give a yellow card for anyone who made a slide tackle,the clare league used to allow 5 subsitutions in the league but they had to change this to 3 because the fai wanted all leagues in ireland to have the exact same rules and regulations but yet the ref can decide for there to be no slide tackles which is a pretty big part of the game how does that make sense?It was,nt just because he would'nt leave straight away the ref abandon the game, that was just the final straw,the level of abuse he was recieving from the sideline was uncalled for,

[twofooted]

Are you trying to move away from the fact that yer game was abandoned last weekend?
With regard to Bridge Celtic not calling off the match, the ref made the call that the pitch was unplayable.
The reason that Bridge Celtic did not make the call, was previously they called off a match for a water lodged pitch, the ref was not informed by the league so he showed up and said the match could have started but would not have finished so the league issued the club with a fine.


Well look you have your facts wrong straight away,The ref said at the peno spot opposite to the school end had some ice.He said he was happy to play the game if the 2 teams were,Rineanna agreed and then the bridge celtic players said ok.The ref asked both goal keepers to agree and the bridge celtic keeper had a word with his manager and said too bad,He then walked away straight away.No wonder bridge celtic only have played a few games in the league if they are selective about what games go ahead.Dragging teams down to brigetown for matches not to go ahead is a joke.

[footballfriend]

I would have to agree with b777b comments..the abuse from the sideline was uncalled for..he gave a peno..wrong or right...you cant keep yelling out 'learn the rules ref'..

[outleft]

Just to get this straight a goalkeeper can over rule a refs decision.
If the ref did not agree than the match would have went ahead

[Kicks]

[QUOTE=Kicks;1434473]It was,nt just because he would'nt leave straight away the ref abandon the game, that was just the final straw,the level of abuse he was recieving from the sideline was uncalled for,

did you see the penalty that he gave? when a ref is so bad people are going to get frustrated and its hard not to say anything to the ref,there were a few people having a go at the ref but god if the ref cant take that then he should get another job.

[obi-1 kenobi-0]

[QUOTE=b777b;1434532]

did you see the penalty that he gave? when a ref is so bad people are going to get frustrated and its hard not to say anything to the ref,there were a few people having a go at the ref but god if the ref cant take that then he should get another job.

Refereeing is not a job. They give up their time to ref the games.

[CousinSylDolan]

Tough draws for the Clare Clubs...

Super draw for Rock... Home to prob the favourites to win it.

Full draw for MJC and MYC 4th and 5th rounds on www.claresoccer.net


LUCOZADE SPORT MUNSTER JUNIOR CUP
2010-2011
4th Round Draw

Knockainey or Aisling Annacotty v 2 Mile Borris St Kevins or Clonmel Celtic
(Limerick) (Tipperary South)

College Cors or Skibbereen v Kilmallock Utd
(MSL) (W.Cork) (Limerick)

Cashel Town or Clonmel Town v Carew Park
(Tipperary South) (Limerick)

Rathkeale v Abbeyfeale Utd
(Limerick Desmond) (Limerick Desmond)

St Michael’s v Avenue Utd or Newmarket Celtic
(Tipperary South) (Clare)

Macroom or Douglas Hall or Village Utd v Killeaney
(Cork AUL) (Limerick Desmond)

Rock Rvs v Pike Rvs
(Clare) (Limerick)

Killumney Utd or Kinsale v St Saviours or Abbeyside
(Cork AUL) (Waterford)

Glen Celtic or Buttevant v Leeds or Blarney Street Ath or Springfield
(Cork AUL) (Cork AUL)

Ballynanty Rvs v Villa or Dungarvan Utd
(Limerick) (Waterford)

Drinagh Rgs or Avondale Utd v Thurles Celtic or Ballymackey
(W.Cork) (MSL) (North Tipperary)

Carrick Utd or Hibernians v Durrus or Carrigaline Utd or Rockmount
(Waterford) W.Cork (MSL) (MSL)

Piltown or Southend Utd v Nenagh Celtic
(Waterford) (North Tipperary)

Casement Celtic or Innishvilla v Douglas Hall
(Cork AUL) (MSL)

Cratloe Forrest v Lisnagry or Wembley Rvs
(Clare) (Limerick)

Wilton Utd “B” or Park Utd v Lisselton Rvs or St Brendan’s Park
(Cork AUL) (Kerry)

[YNWA]

[QUOTE=Kicks;1434625]

Refereeing is not a job. They give up their time to ref the games.

If they are being paid well then thats a job in my eyes.

[Buzzer]

[QUOTE=obi-1 kenobi-0;1434642]

If they are being paid well then thats a job in my eyes.

I would agree. If you get paid then I would consider it a job.

[mouldedstuds]

Boys, in fairness will ye stop with the "job" thing. They give up their time to do something they are interested in. Right or wrong good or bad they are trying their best. It's uncalled for the crap they take. And ya we've all given em stick when we played but at the end of the day they go home , they go to work ,they not trying to screw any one. Some refs can take different levels of stick some cant. Doesn't mean they deserve more, or less.

[CousinSylDolan]

All games in Clare are off this weekend...

[Buzzer]

Boys, in fairness will ye stop with the "job" thing. They give up their time to do something they are interested in. Right or wrong good or bad they are trying their best. It's uncalled for the crap they take. And ya we've all given em stick when we played but at the end of the day they go home , they go to work ,they not trying to screw any one. Some refs can take different levels of stick some cant. Doesn't mean they deserve more, or less.

I'm not disagreeing with you Mouldedstuds about some of the abuse some of them get. All i'm saying is if you get paid for doing something no matter if it's your full time job or something you do on the side, i would consider that as a job.

[First]

Boys, in fairness will ye stop with the "job" thing. They give up their time to do something they are interested in. Right or wrong good or bad they are trying their best. It's uncalled for the crap they take. And ya we've all given em stick when we played but at the end of the day they go home , they go to work ,they not trying to screw any one. Some refs can take different levels of stick some cant. Doesn't mean they deserve more, or less.

Agree with you here Moulded. We wouldn't have a league without people who take on this. Not everyone is going to agree with a referee 100% of the time but what can be done is that 100% of the time referees get respect. Everyone involved in football will make mistakes whether it is players, managers or officials. How the mistake is handled is the issue, noone has a right to be roaring abuse at anyone during what is to most of us a pastime.

Much as it pains me to say it, we could all learn from Rugby here and how respect is shown to their officials at all levels.

Lads lets all start showing referees a little bit of respect because without them we wouldn't have a league to enjoy. Because they are receiving payment is neither here nor there as with any of us that work we wouldn't put up with abuse so why is it that people think that a referee will accept it.

[obi-1 kenobi-0]

I'm not disagreeing with you Mouldedstuds about some of the abuse some of them get. All i'm saying is if you get paid for doing something no matter if it's your full time job or something you do on the side, i would consider that as a job.

We have a solution to the job crisis at the moment. Become a Junior football referee.

[First]

We have a solution to the job crisis at the moment. Become a Junior football referee.

There will by all accounts alot of unemployed footballers in Shannon next season. ;)

[Buzzer]

We have a solution to the job crisis at the moment. Become a Junior football referee.

So if you were doing something at the weekends that you liked doing, like for example fixing cars and you were getting paid for it, you wouldn't consider that a job? Not even a part time job? It's the same thing as being a ref at the weekends. I'm not condoning anyone who abuses a ref, i'm just stating my view on a matter. Now we'll leave it at that.

[blinkx]

Quick question lads, Rock Rovers. Location? Can't seem to find much about them online, besides the odd article. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers.

[the lobster]

Quick question lads, Rock Rovers. Location? Can't seem to find much about them online, besides the odd article. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers.

http://www.clarecoco.ie/recreation-culture/leisure-and-swimming/lees-road-park/

[MikeBassett]

CDSL have postponed all games this weekend

[obi-1 kenobi-0]

There will by all accounts alot of unemployed footballers in Shannon next season. ;)

The new SUPER CLUB? Il most definitely be one of those unemployed if that is the case.:mad:

[Ice-man]

The new SUPER CLUB? Il most definitely be one of those unemployed if that is the case.:mad:

This move will benefit only Olympic, Rineanna & Bunratty. There will be alot of unwanted & unhappy players if this goes ahead but looking at ST this season something has to be done.

[smellyfeet]

This move will benefit only Olympic, Rineanna & Bunratty. There will be alot of unwanted & unhappy players if this goes ahead but looking at ST this season something has to be done.

Lads, Lets see what happens in the next few weeks/months, nothing decided yet.I'm sure they are looking at the bigger picture.

Ice-man, Maybe the above Clubs will get a few players here and there but happens every year anyway with all clubs and they are all Junior players, Shannon Town and Shannon Hibs have school boys/girls starting from the age of 3 years old so it can only improve things.Again, Lets see what happens.

[anchorman]

Would it not be better for shannon hibs and shannon town to join clare league? lets be honest theres going to be alot of unhappy players, it would be a good move for all as the rivalry would be back on track and these two clubs would have a good chance of making a proper name for themselves. I cant see this SUPER CLUB winning any premier title in limerick. Standard of pitches and facilities in clare league is second to none now. Would be super move for two teams!

[shanman2]

This move will benefit only Olympic, Rineanna & Bunratty. There will be alot of unwanted & unhappy players if this goes ahead but looking at ST this season something has to be done.

shannon towns problems are theyre own fault. they took on too big a squad and forgot bout the players that got them there.
surely they are better than to have 1point all season. if this goes ahead its a joke. they were asked and refused. bad move for football in the town if it did happen back to the clare league with them because they will never win the premier in limerick.

[Kicks]

I think in the long run that a team from shannon will have a much better chance of doing well in limerick league with only one team from the town so hopefully if it goes through it'll turn out to be a good move,def dont think that they should join clare league standard is much higher in Limerick, dont think that the clubs joining together and winning the clare premier would be much of an achievment.

[avenueC]

I don't think they'd win the clare league either

[old git]

I don't think they'd win the clare league either

yeah i forget the super wonderfull team by the name of avenue seem to think that the title only belongs to them .. :) it would be a big bonus for the clare league to get this club back into clare personally i cant see it happening and a lot of half decent lads playing ball in shannon at the moment and they would not need to gel/improve much to be in with a shot of winning clare league title.

[onetrickpony]

lads I hear trouble in camp at avenue an McDonagh leaving in the new year any truth in the rumour?

[outleft]

Ya I heard this rumor also heard that he has been dropped from the Oscar trainer panel.
I guess we will have to wait until January to find out.

[Play_On]

Ya I heard this rumor also heard that he has been dropped from the Oscar trainer panel.
I guess we will have to wait until January to find out.

He is going to Manus Celtic apparently. Don't know the reasons behind it

[old git]

He is going to Manus Celtic apparently. Don't know the reasons behind it

maybe he wants to win something this season ;););)

[Planners]

Happy Christmas and an here's to eventful new year to my fellow posters - enjoy the break

[outleft]

Any reason on why he was dropped from Oscar trainer panel?
Surely it can't be because he will play for a team in a lower division.

[The circuspony]

Great signing for Manus.......unfortunate loss for Avenue, though they are sure to make a new signing or two in the next few weeks.
Lets hope he stays on the Clare Panel, they need to be firing on all cylinders to beat this talented Galway side.
Any chance Martin O'Neill from newmarket might get drafted in, now that he is fully fit and scoring goals for fun ?

[avenueC]

adrian left at start of dec and has already played for manus, he couldnt give the time or commitment to train or make games so he left to play with his brother at manus,, same situation with the oscars, couldnt train or make the game. he wasnt dropped, there was no trouble in any camp he just couldnt commit,,
he had a great yr last with the double with avenue and the oscars.. we wish him well