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    Not looking good for Kelleher this season but some of the folk on here are absolutely clueless how contracts in football work, seen it with Lawal posts as well, when you sign a contract, the club decides your future not you. Would it be better for Kellehers career to leave? yes, but not for Liverpool. Having a poor back up cost Inter the 2022 title, don't think Liverpool will take that risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayzor View Post
    Not looking good for Kelleher this season but some of the folk on here are absolutely clueless how contracts in football work, seen it with Lawal posts as well, when you sign a contract, the club decides your future not you. Would it be better for Kellehers career to leave? yes, but not for Liverpool. Having a poor back up cost Inter the 2022 title, don't think Liverpool will take that risk.
    Players force their way out of clubs every day. We are all aware of his contract situation, it was even clarified to me that its 2 years and not 1, but players and their agents can and do make enough of a fuss that the clubs will let them go if the player really wants it.
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    It's true he signed a contract and it's true players can make their intentions to leave clear (Idah did exactly that, albeit with very solid interest)

    But Liverpool are spending £30m on a decent keeper (do they have to loan him back for a year?) - surely it makes sense for them to try get a few million of that back on a keeper they now don't need?

    It seems like all the signs are there for Kelleher to finally move... except the move itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    To be fair I thinks its a no brainer that Kelleher is our first choice keeper through the Autumn games, O'Leary should probably get a cap but Kelleher would be the undisputed #1 until Bazunu gets back playing. Im assuming we have games in March/April next year, if Kellehers situation remains as it is now and Bazunu is playing Premiership football, that again would be a no brainer for Bazunu to be our 1st choice in my opinion.

    Travers and O'Leary are unlucky to have those two lads in front of them, but I dont see either really establishing themselves for us unless Kelleher stays a sub keeper long term and Bazunus injury causes him to regress
    Still think Kelleher will keep the number one jersey next March even if he's not playing and Bazunu is back as number one with Southampton.

    As we've seen before with Ireland and even some big nations that club form doesn't guarantee you a place in the starting XI. If Kelleher plays all six NL games I can see HH sticking with Kelleher going into the qualifiers unless he plays poorly in the NL.

    HH will be well acquainted with Kelleher come next March but will be his first time getting an up close look at Bazunu. With a bit of luck we end up with a four team group for the qualifiers meaning we won't have our first qualifier till September so could organise friendlies in June.

    Should have a promotion/relegation playoff next March if we finish second or third unless we're relegated which we'll have more friendlies in March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Still think Kelleher will keep the number one jersey next March even if he's not playing and Bazunu is back as number one with Southampton.

    As we've seen before with Ireland and even some big nations that club form doesn't guarantee you a place in the starting XI. If Kelleher plays all six NL games I can see HH sticking with Kelleher going into the qualifiers unless he plays poorly in the NL.

    HH will be well acquainted with Kelleher come next March but will be his first time getting an up close look at Bazunu. With a bit of luck we end up with a four team group for the qualifiers meaning we won't have our first qualifier till September so could organise friendlies in June.

    Should have a promotion/relegation playoff next March if we finish second or third unless we're relegated which we'll have more friendlies in March.
    Yep no doubt some managers are loyal to a fault with players and often it's harder to get out of the team than get in if you are one of the favorites, but I suppose we don't really know Hallgrimsson yet and how he operates. He might be one to pick on form, we'll find out more in the next couple months.
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Players force their way out of clubs every day. We are all aware of his contract situation, it was even clarified to me that its 2 years and not 1, but players and their agents can and do make enough of a fuss that the clubs will let them go if the player really wants it.
    That's true but you need to be a certain type of person to do that, Kelleher been there since he's 16, they plucked him from ringmahon and made him an international and a millionaire. Klopp seemed to really rate him, hopefully slot not too bothered and he gets a move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayzor View Post
    That's true but you need to be a certain type of person to do that, Kelleher been there since he's 16, they plucked him from ringmahon and made him an international and a millionaire. Klopp seemed to really rate him, hopefully slot not too bothered and he gets a move.
    But thats the point isnt it. Hes comfortable there, nice lad and happy to go with the flow and it may badly affect his career. Hallgrimson tonight talking about needing more b@stards in the squad, he'll be looking past Kelleher for that bit it seems
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    But thats the point isnt it. Hes comfortable there, nice lad and happy to go with the flow and it may badly affect his career. Hallgrimson tonight talking about needing more b@stards in the squad, he'll be looking past Kelleher for that bit it seems
    Does any of our keepers give off ******* vibes? Remember thinking a couple of times that Bazunu was too quiet for his own good two seasons ago when he first joined Southampton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Does any of our keepers give off ******* vibes? Remember thinking a couple of times that Bazunu was too quiet for his own good two seasons ago when he first joined Southampton.
    Theres very few in the squad overall that have that edge to them. Bazunu does come across as a nice lad himself, but at least he looked for loans from City and wanted a permanent move for 1st team football at a very young age, does that show a bit of backbone that seems to be missing from Kelleher so far?
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Theres very few in the squad overall that have that edge to them. Bazunu does come across as a nice lad himself, but at least he looked for loans from City and wanted a permanent move for 1st team football at a very young age, does that show a bit of backbone that seems to be missing from Kelleher so far?
    Hallgrimsson mentioned Kelleher in the Q&A.

    There was also an indirect recommendation for Caoimhín Kelleher to hasten his planned move from Liverpool, denoting how goalkeepers require gametime to keep fresh.

    “He showed how good he was last season,” was Hallgrimsson’s opening statement about the Corkman, set to resume his status as back-up to Brazilian Alisson.

    “If he gets games, it’s good for us but goalkeepers usually benefit from starting on a regular basis. You don’t usually change a goalkeeper at half-time.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Hallgrimsson mentioned Kelleher in the Q&A.

    There was also an indirect recommendation for Caoimhín Kelleher to hasten his planned move from Liverpool, denoting how goalkeepers require gametime to keep fresh.

    “He showed how good he was last season,” was Hallgrimsson’s opening statement about the Corkman, set to resume his status as back-up to Brazilian Alisson.

    “If he gets games, it’s good for us but goalkeepers usually benefit from starting on a regular basis. You don’t usually change a goalkeeper at half-time.”
    Seems that he wont accept Kelleher sitting on the bench all season if others are playing regularly. Not knowing much about Hallgrimsson makes all this more interesting, we've no idea what to expect from him
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Seems that he wont accept Kelleher sitting on the bench all season if others are playing regularly. Not knowing much about Hallgrimsson makes all this more interesting, we've no idea what to expect from him
    Travers another that will need to sort a move if he even wants to make squads. Hallgrimsson might well want two back up keepers that play regularly while Kelleher is first choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Travers another that will need to sort a move if he even wants to make squads. Hallgrimsson might well want two back up keepers that play regularly while Kelleher is first choice.
    I mean until Bazunu’s fit, who does that leave apart from O’Leary? Travers on the bench for Bournemouth, Bonham is on the bench for Stoke. Randolph is without a club. You’re left with League 1: Pym, League 2: Harrington, LOI: Kearns, Maher, McGinty. Conference: McNicholas

    Not exactly a lot to pick from…

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    There's a huge drop off from the best four to anyone else. So as long as Bazunu is out the other three will be in every squad when they're fit. Kelleher is sure to get the gloves at the start anyway, but if his club situation hasn't changed by the spring and Bazunu is back starting in the Premier League, it's likely the change will be made then.

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    It must be Kelleher. O’Leary was one of the best Championship goalkeepers last season and that deserves No.2 spot. Bazunu will never be an EPL regular. He is simply not good enough. Even the Championship may be beyond him. He is possibly Southampton’s worst ever signing.
    So it’s Kelleher based on not a lot other than him retaining some claim to an EPL career. A claim that’s becoming a challenge in itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapshot View Post
    It must be Kelleher. O’Leary was one of the best Championship goalkeepers last season and that deserves No.2 spot. Bazunu will never be an EPL regular. He is simply not good enough. Even the Championship may be beyond him. He is possibly Southampton’s worst ever signing.
    So it’s Kelleher based on not a lot other than him retaining some claim to an EPL career. A claim that’s becoming a challenge in itself.
    He already has been a premier league regular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapshot View Post
    It must be Kelleher. O’Leary was one of the best Championship goalkeepers last season and that deserves No.2 spot. Bazunu will never be an EPL regular. He is simply not good enough. Even the Championship may be beyond him. He is possibly Southampton’s worst ever signing.
    So it’s Kelleher based on not a lot other than him retaining some claim to an EPL career. A claim that’s becoming a challenge in itself.
    You know Southampton signed Ali Dia, right..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapshot View Post
    He is possibly Southampton’s worst ever signing.
    The same club who once put a player on the field because he pretended to be George Weahs cousin. I'd say he's safe enough.

    Ramp up the hyperbole though, its fantastic.

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    With Gav injured, and Travers not playing any football, I think Kelleher probably should be Ireland no.1, but Given that O' Leary is the only one who is actually a footballer right now, maybe it should be his jersey to lose, to give everyone the kick they need to sort their lives out.

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    I said Bazunu will never be a regular. Future tense.
    I said “possibly” Southampton’s worst signing.
    The hyperbole about Bazunu has indeed been fantastic.
    Typical footie.ie ambush. The lads.

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