QuoteIt's a great way to have someone to blame if there is teething problemsOriginally Posted by CraftyToePoke
It's not impossible with a guy coming in who isn't from these parts & might evaluate his player pool differently. That said he's fairly clear O'Shea will have a big say in the early stages.
It's a great way to have someone to blame if there is teething problems
Ah man, you have your view on him & fair enough, but never this & never that & possibly worst ever this & that is going to get a reaction & you know that too. Particularly a keeper who's still too young to bring a verdict as big as yours in on. We don't know yet where his career will settle, level wise, and you don't either.
YeahIt's a great way to have someone to blame if there is teething problems
Send Sheasy out to do the presser after a good hiding off England. You picked em Sheasy, go & meet the people.
Fair enough. But is it a crime to believe a guy who has never performed beyond L1, is hated (not personally) by Southampton fans following two howler-ridden seasons and looks suss every time a cross sails over, or a shot comes in from near or far is, well, a sub-standard waste of money? Take the green specs off before answering. I gave an honest opinion.
Go Coillte Mach rachad / ní stopfaidh me choíche /
Go seasfaidh mé síos / i lár Chondae Mhaigh Eo.
I just pointed out that an opinion that Baz will never be a PL regular falls at the first hurdle as he has already been one and there’s nothing to suggest he isn’t ready to be again. He’s 22, he has many years of maturation ahead of him too. It’s a bit silly to draw a conclusion as definitive and pessimistic as you did. If you’d said you didn’t think he’d ever be an elite level PL keeper, I’d have said nothing.
And saying he's potentially Southampton's worst ever signing when everyone and his dog knows they once signed a player who wasn't even an actual professional footballer was always going to be picked up on as well.
My opinion is not silly because you disagree. Your arrogance is defined in your final sentence.
I don't believe I wear them Snappers.
I'm fairly moderate I'd term it, on all our lads.
I don't like them attacked but that's more a decency thing than a green goggles thing.
Happy to be corrected though if you've seen something I haven't, about myself.
Now, you're mad for a scrap and I'm sure you'll find one but I'm fairly chilled today and I'm going to keep it that way.
I didn’t seek or expect a scrap. Sorry if I offended.
Yer grand.
I wouldn't mind seeing O'Leary play to be honest.
He's playing every week, an established number one keeper in his prime & he has turned up to a lot of squads for no reward so far.
Chill man. I don’t think your opinion is silly, I just think it’s silly to be so definitive with all the elements at play. I’m not being arrogant (just saying I wouldn’t challenge you or anyone if there was a defensible position taken) - I think you not acknowledging a little bit of over zealousness when you’ve been challenged reasonably by 4 or 5 different posters is probably what’s arrogant in all this.
What’s the “disagree factor” whereby an honest opinion becomes arrogance? When you bang the gavel? Stop it.
I dunno. You brought arrogance into the conversation, you tell me.
Stop banging Snappers gavel will you, tis Sunday.
I feel like I’m the one being shouted at!
If five posters disagree with another’s opinion - is that arrogance, as you suggested?I feel like I’m the one being shouted at!
Or is it five posters disagreeing with another’s opinion?
Well like I said, you tell me…you started the shouts of arrogance. I countered. I’m not the arbiter of it here.
The opposite of arrogance is humility. If I had five posters come at my opinion with facts and other considerations, I’d begin to question the validity of my opinion and either walk some or all of it back or simply stop engaging. You’ve decided you want to dig in, double down and keep on the offensive. Is that arrogance or something else?
By the way, if I’m a poster that just generally annoys you and you’re using this as an opportunity for a scrap, fair enough, just say so and I’ll stop engaging.
So you’re now the arbiter of when another’s opinion is arrogance. Five posters it is then before SkStu declares it’s not an opinion of worth - it’s arrogance. Best of luck revitalising the forum. Chrissakes.
What the hell is going on here?
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