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old git
15/02/2007, 11:07 AM
anyone know when damien o rourke is back from the states? even though he is park through and through , i don't think he will sign back with them.

in parks current situation would not be a good move for him to join them,, then again if he is park through & through who knows:D

Lev Yashin
15/02/2007, 5:02 PM
anyone know when damien o rourke is back from the states? even though he is park through and through , i don't think he will sign back with them.

was talking to dux a while ago he will be home in the summer i think, im almost sure thats when he said and he is thinking of going down to cork when he gets home i think...he always liked it down there so he'll probably try and get back in to the city set up.

But who knows maybe he'll come back and sign for park like the prodigal son!!!
and drag them back into the premier league ............but not likely really...is it?

Lev Yashin
05/03/2007, 7:21 PM
Did park get any players back over the last few weeks??

slotts
05/03/2007, 10:04 PM
it might be best putting a list of 3 players together for each position and then picking your best,

I wonder would anybody consider getting a team/squad together and trying to go over to France to play Guingamp as they are twinned with shannon. Would be a cool thing to do and might be some early steps in getting a cracking team together to represent shannon !!:cool:

About ten or eleven years ago a team from shannon went over to guingamp to play in a tournament which we won. People put us up in their houses. maybe getting on to the organising people over there again might be an idea.:)

old git
06/03/2007, 8:25 AM
About ten or eleven years ago a team from shannon went over to guingamp to play in a tournament which we won. People put us up in their houses. maybe getting on to the organising people over there again might be an idea.:)

slotts ... be honest here would it be possible to get a good team out of shannon (teams ) now.. big difference from 10 years ago.. when you had no problem picking players...
can you name team that went over back then ,,, trying to remember but cannot recall :ball:

Offside
06/03/2007, 9:08 AM
I think you'd get a decent Shannon team out of the teams in Shannon, it'd be so much better if you could also include the players living in Shannon but not playing for a Shannon based team. I don't see why you can't include them in it though. Its a good Idea and I'm sure there would be alot of players interested in the idea aswell.

old git
06/03/2007, 9:19 AM
I think you'd get a decent Shannon team out of the teams in Shannon, it'd be so much better if you could also include the players living in Shannon but not playing for a Shannon based team. I don't see why you can't include them in it though. Its a good Idea and I'm sure there would be alot of players interested in the idea aswell.


name your decent 11 shannon players .. !! i still think shannon would struggle to put together a decent team at the moment .. :ball: :ball:

Lev Yashin
06/03/2007, 10:01 AM
name your decent 11 shannon players .. !! i still think shannon would struggle to put together a decent team at the moment .. :ball: :ball:

i disagree i dont think we would have any hassle putting together a strong panel...whether it would win anything or not is another question...

parkfan
06/03/2007, 12:05 PM
name your decent 11 shannon players .. !! i still think shannon would struggle to put together a decent team at the moment .. :ball: :ball:

shannon woulb be well able to put out a decent side. but only if it could include people who dont play in shannon. definately
Shannonman we signed ritchie murphy, sean gunn, brendan mc keogh hedge is back from injury (out for 2 months). also gareth quirke is back after a 3 month absence.

Offside
06/03/2007, 2:17 PM
Just a few names you could have on the squad
from Newtown
(Just some of the younger fitter players FROM SHANNON hopefully no offence to the older heads.)
from Newtown
Skinny, Derek Byrne, Ryan Kelly, Tom O'hare, Cheeky, Eamonn O'neill, David Egan.. just to name a few.

from Oly
Donnacha Kelly, Jay Regan, Ian Hogan, Jimmy Houlihan, John Ryan, Terry Dougan, Steven Carroll... i'm sure there's a few more in there squad that can be thrown in.
Thats 15 players from just 2 of the teams.

I'm not too sure of the Park and Shannon Town squads but i know theres still some good players on both teams.. maybe Parkfan and Shannonman could help me out..

But like I said it'd be much better if it had some of the players that are from Shannon who are playing 'abroad':D

parkfan
06/03/2007, 2:58 PM
Just a few names you could have on the squad
from Newtown
(Just some of the younger fitter players FROM SHANNON hopefully no offence to the older heads.)
from Newtown
Skinny, Derek Byrne, Ryan Kelly, Tom O'hare, Cheeky, Eamonn O'neill, David Egan.. just to name a few.

from Oly
Donnacha Kelly, Jay Regan, Ian Hogan, Jimmy Houlihan, John Ryan, Terry Dougan, Steven Carroll... i'm sure there's a few more in there squad that can be thrown in.
Thats 15 players from just 2 of the teams.

I'm not too sure of the Park and Shannon Town squads but i know theres still some good players on both teams.. maybe Parkfan and Shannonman could help me out..

But like I said it'd be much better if it had some of the players that are from Shannon who are playing 'abroad':D

i wouldnt be too sure of the players you named.
quirkey, ritchie, locks, hedge, kez, from park
ger kelly, griffin, powery, g aherne from the town

papa-j
06/03/2007, 3:42 PM
Just a few names you could have on the squad
from Newtown
(Just some of the younger fitter players FROM SHANNON hopefully no offence to the older heads.)
from Newtown
Skinny, Derek Byrne, Ryan Kelly, Tom O'hare, Cheeky, Eamonn O'neill, David Egan.. just to name a few.

from Oly
Donnacha Kelly, Jay Regan, Ian Hogan, Jimmy Houlihan, John Ryan, Terry Dougan, Steven Carroll... i'm sure there's a few more in there squad that can be thrown in.
Thats 15 players from just 2 of the teams.

I'm not too sure of the Park and Shannon Town squads but i know theres still some good players on both teams.. maybe Parkfan and Shannonman could help me out..

But like I said it'd be much better if it had some of the players that are from Shannon who are playing 'abroad':D

On form this year the older heads would all deserve a place in the squad and that includes a few older heads forn Town aswell. If I was manager this would be my team. Not including my self cause that would be bigheaded;) I'm also not including anybody who doesn't play for a Shannon team...because the team should represent players who play for Shannon clubs.

1. Skinny
2. Derek Byrne
3. Glen Coyle
4. Griff
5. Noel Donnellan
6. Ryan Kelly
7. Tom o' Hare
8.Jimmy Houlihan
9. Cheeky
10. Ger Kelly
11. Brian Power

Subs - KEEPER-Gareth Aherne, DEFENDERS - Quirky, Paddy Findlay,
MIDFIELD - Donnacha Kelly, John Ryan, Eamon o Neil, Dave Egan,
STRIKERS - Ray Quigley, Liam Heffernan,

I havn't seen park play this year but I'm sure a few players there would push for a place too. TRAINING SAT MORNING 9AM:eek:

shelbourne1904
06/03/2007, 3:49 PM
slotts ... be honest here would it be possible to get a good team out of shannon (teams ) now.. big difference from 10 years ago.. when you had no problem picking players...
can you name team that went over back then ,,, trying to remember but cannot recall :ball:

Can anyone remember who went.I dont think any Newtown were asked???I may be wrong but I cant remember this at all????

shelbourne1904
06/03/2007, 3:59 PM
All humility aside Jason Stretton would have to be in it this year.I reckon its his best season since under 14,even though he is a bit heavier than he was then!!!!(and a bit grumpier).

Offside
06/03/2007, 4:28 PM
What about Evan Glynn?? is he till playing wth Shannon Town? he'd surely be in the first 11.. I agree that Jay Strets, Glenn and Noel are havin a great season I was just lookin at the younger members of the team but now that ye mention them the experience is a necessity no matter what team you play for and they are very solid working together..

old git
06/03/2007, 4:51 PM
Just a few names you could have on the squad
from Newtown
(Just some of the younger fitter players FROM SHANNON hopefully no offence to the older heads.)
from Newtown
Skinny, Derek Byrne, Ryan Kelly, Tom O'hare, Cheeky, Eamonn O'neill, David Egan.. just to name a few.

from Oly
Donnacha Kelly, Jay Regan, Ian Hogan, Jimmy Houlihan, John Ryan, Terry Dougan, Steven Carroll... i'm sure there's a few more in there squad that can be thrown in.
Thats 15 players from just 2 of the teams.

I'm not too sure of the Park and Shannon Town squads but i know theres still some good players on both teams.. maybe Parkfan and Shannonman could help me out..

But like I said it'd be much better if it had some of the players that are from Shannon who are playing 'abroad':D

would disagree on a few from newtown,, eamon / david egan i dont think so ,, skinny probally only just because no other keeper.. but would add jason / noel / glen coyle
olympic i must be missing something from the few games i have seen them play.. would only include john ryan / terry duggan ,, jimmy houlihan maybee depends which jimmy turns up..

shannon town probally only gerry kelly.. :ball:

cannot comment on park as have not seen them play ,

Lev Yashin
06/03/2007, 5:01 PM
would disagree on a few from newtown,, eamon / david egan i dont think so ,, skinny probally only just because no other keeper.. but would add jason / noel / glen coyle
olympic i must be missing something from the few games i have seen them play.. would only include john ryan / terry duggan ,, jimmy houlihan maybee depends which jimmy turns up..

shannon town probally only gerry kelly.. :ball:

cannot comment on park as have not seen them play ,

have you seen shannon town play????
i mean granted gerry will score goals but he has been far from our best player this season... darren griffin would have to be in the first eleven..i cant comment on olympic or newtown as i haven't seen them play.

its very hard to pick a team from shannon unless your not associated with any team or have spent time watching each team play.

alot of players in the town are preceded by their reputation...

slotts
06/03/2007, 8:48 PM
slotts ... be honest here would it be possible to get a good team out of shannon (teams ) now.. big difference from 10 years ago.. when you had no problem picking players...
can you name team that went over back then ,,, trying to remember but cannot recall :ball:

cant remember all names. kenny hughs and a few lads from the bridge, barry downs and greg deegan were a few.

old git
07/03/2007, 8:17 AM
cant remember all names. kenny hughs and a few lads from the bridge, barry downs and greg deegan were a few.

few lads from the bridge .. thought it was a team representing shannon :confused: :confused:

CousinSylDolan
07/03/2007, 8:32 AM
few lads from the bridge .. thought it was a team representing shannon :confused: :confused:


St. Caimins school team went over back in the early 90's.

CousinSyl was there would you believe it.

We had just wont the North Munster Junior schools and were taken over there as a result. Winning camogie team went as well to play an exibition as they won Munster title also.

smellyfeet
07/03/2007, 8:54 AM
St. Caimins school team went over back in the early 90's.

CousinSyl was there would you believe it.

We had just wont the North Munster Junior schools and were taken over there as a result. Winning camogie team went as well to play an exibition as they won Munster title also.

Nice trip for winning North Munster. The year after that we "Caimins" won it also but only got to go to an Ireland match in Dublin:(

brutus
07/03/2007, 9:26 AM
i still think shannon would struggle to put together a decent team at the moment .. :ball: :ball:

old git what your saying here is absolute nonsense,4 teams in shannon and your saying shannon would struggle to put a team together,u dont know much about the quality in shannon,for you to say this is madness no wonder your an old git.....are you still remmenisent about your playing days or have you even played a bit of ball......

smellyfeet
07/03/2007, 9:34 AM
old git what your saying here is absolute nonsense,4 teams in shannon and your saying shannon would struggle to put a team together,u dont know much about the quality in shannon,for you to say this is madness no wonder your an old git.....are you still remmenisent about your playing days or have you even played a bit of ball......

Might get a team together alright but would it be any good is the big question..:ball:
Anyway is there a game on or what:confused:

brutus
07/03/2007, 10:00 AM
Might get a team together alright but would it be any good is the big question..:ball:
Anyway is there a game on or what:confused:

how good do ye want it to be,the players playing in clubs in shannon are all playing standard football,2 teams in clare prem and 2 teams in limerick 1A,1A is even tougher than the clare prem,there shouldnt be a problem getting a decent side,the only problem is who would look after it..:ball:

old git
07/03/2007, 10:28 AM
old git what your saying here is absolute nonsense,4 teams in shannon and your saying shannon would struggle to put a team together,u dont know much about the quality in shannon,for you to say this is madness no wonder your an old git.....are you still remmenisent about your playing days or have you even played a bit of ball......

definatly played a bit of ball.. i have seen a good few matches involving the shannon teams .. and will state again standard is not great... you could put a team together no problem but i would not expect them to win .. .. p.s.. you get grumpy with old age :D :D

old git
07/03/2007, 10:30 AM
how good do ye want it to be,the players playing in clubs in shannon are all playing standard football,2 teams in clare prem and 2 teams in limerick 1A,1A is even tougher than the clare prem,there shouldnt be a problem getting a decent side,the only problem is who would look after it..:ball:

division 1 a is even tougher than clare premier ... your having a laugh. have you seen park rangers / shannon town play :confused: :confused:

brutus
07/03/2007, 11:31 AM
division 1 a is even tougher than clare premier ... your having a laugh. have you seen park rangers / shannon town play :confused: :confused:

i have seen the four teams play and the way your talking is there all poor,four handy teams even doh park have lost players..top 4 in order

1.newtown
2.shannon town
3.olympic
4.park. i have seen all of these play this year and the way your talking your expecting these teams to be in the same category as pike and the likes,there is only a certain standard these teams can reach and the four teams have alot off talented youngsters that will just keep improving,
you also cant judge a player at the age between 18-22 when they are just getting the experience now,learning all the time...:D

brutus
07/03/2007, 11:33 AM
old git i think you have just noticed that your playing dayz are over and cant stand the thought of hanging up your boots,also the way you were talking you must have won f.a.i medals and all..or were you a newtown whino all your life...:D :D :D

old git
07/03/2007, 11:53 AM
i have seen the four teams play and the way your talking is there all poor,four handy teams even doh park have lost players..top 4 in order

1.newtown
2.shannon town
3.olympic
4.park. i have seen all of these play this year and the way your talking your expecting these teams to be in the same category as pike and the likes,there is only a certain standard these teams can reach and the four teams have alot off talented youngsters that will just keep improving,
you also cant judge a player at the age between 18-22 when they are just getting the experience now,learning all the time...:D

why should we not expect teams to be in same category as pike / etc.. all teams above with exception of olympic all have good underage set ups... my arguement is were do all these underage players go when they reach 18 .. look around at all the shannon teams how many have players who came through their underage set ups ..currently playing for them ( probally only newtown) all i am saying that standard in shannon & clare has dropped in recent years and cannot understand why ..:ball: if a player is half decent you will know even if he is 18-22

parkfan
07/03/2007, 12:13 PM
why should we not expect teams to be in same category as pike / etc.. all teams above with exception of olympic all have good underage set ups... my arguement is were do all these underage players go when they reach 18 .. look around at all the shannon teams how many have players who came through their underage set ups ..currently playing for them ( probally only newtown) all i am saying that standard in shannon & clare has dropped in recent years and cannot understand why ..:ball: if a player is half decent you will know even if he is 18-22

ill answer that for ya brutus. :D . when they reach 18 and go into the junior squads its very hard to push your way into a junior side. only newtown seem prepared to give the young lads a go and look at the benefits. hopefully they will win the league itd be great for them and the young players. also now its open for debate that in this town its who ya know not what know. with of course the exception of newtown. ya just need to give the young lads a chance and manage them right by that i mean talk to them. man- management is realy important when it comes to young lads in my opinion.:ball:

papa-j
07/03/2007, 12:13 PM
Without doubt the standard overall is not a good as it was say 10 years ago.
There are still lots of good players but just not as many as there used to be.

I played with and against some fantastic schoolboy and youth players but only a handfull continued to play past youths and even less are still playing today.

I could count on one hand the number of players from my youths era that are still playing at "a" team level today.

Every team these days seems to have a majority of young players of under 25 who are still looking to reach their full potential,where as 10-15 years ago it was the opposite. Most teams were full of experienced players with only one or two young lads in the team. I suppose its down to the lifestyle changes over the past 15 years where priorities have changed.

parkfan
07/03/2007, 12:25 PM
totally agree nearly every young lad now between 17 and 22 thats in college has to work weekends to pay for lifestyle..thats why not many youths teams anymore too..

very true it is hard for them to play with financial factor and that. plus they are very detached from the football scene by the time thay get back to shannon if they every come back that is.

smellyfeet
07/03/2007, 1:16 PM
[QUOTE=parkfan;638023]ill answer that for ya brutus. :D . when they reach 18 and go into the junior squads its very hard to push your way into a junior side. only newtown seem prepared to give the young lads a go and look at the benefits. hopefully they will win the league itd be great for them and the young players.

Sorry if i'm mistaken here but i think i remember not so long ago you said the total opposite about Newtown and their younger players...now which one is it.
They are or aren't giving their young players a chance

brutus
07/03/2007, 1:34 PM
why should we not expect teams to be in same category as pike / etc.. all teams above with exception of olympic all have good underage set ups... my arguement is were do all these underage players go when they reach 18 .. look around at all the shannon teams how many have players who came through their underage set ups ..currently playing for them ( probally only newtown) all i am saying that standard in shannon & clare has dropped in recent years and cannot understand why ..:ball: if a player is half decent you will know even if he is 18-22

i agree with you about the underage set-up,but to turn around and say there was as many good teams years ago isnt true..tell me this who were an outstanding team ten years ago in your opinion..:confused:

old git
07/03/2007, 1:38 PM
old git i think you have just noticed that your playing dayz are over and cant stand the thought of hanging up your boots,also the way you were talking you must have won f.a.i medals and all..or were you a newtown whino all your life...:D :D :D
neither newtown or a whino all my life ... never won much in my playing career ,, but would still have high hopes for football to get better as most clubs setups / facalities / coaching have improved since i stopped playing.. unfortunatly it does not seem to have happened :

el_nino84
07/03/2007, 1:45 PM
i agree 100% wit hparkfan in that man-management is vital when dealing with young players these days and also with papa-j in that the change in lifestyle over the last 10 years has dramatically changed. to be fair to newtown they have given their young players a fair crack over the last couple of years. theres only noel,glen and stretts over 30 and the now departed davy wall over the age of 25,most of the team were all only 20/21/22 eg. skinny,james mcdade,dave magee,rob wall,ray quigley,cheeky,ryan kelly and they came close to winning the league last year.

brutus
07/03/2007, 2:04 PM
neither newtown or a whino all my life ... never won much in my playing career ,, but would still have high hopes for football to get better as most clubs setups / facalities / coaching have improved since i stopped playing.. unfortunatly it does not seem to have happened :

facilities around have improved hugely,but old git the coaching at junior level now in shannon is very poor for alot of A and B teams,thats why we might have found the solution now, for you saying that :ball: hasnt improved over the years:confused:

First
07/03/2007, 2:35 PM
Brutus should you not be doing some press ups and trying to get a glimpse of the promised land......or are you saving your energy for the weekend:rolleyes:

Brazil Nut
07/03/2007, 2:45 PM
neither newtown or a whino all my life ... never won much in my playing career ,, but would still have high hopes for football to get better as most clubs setups / facalities / coaching have improved since i stopped playing.. unfortunatly it does not seem to have happened :

The problem with standard of football comes from much more than facilities and coaching etc. Problem is too many young lads are class at soccer (FIFA and PRO-EV) rather than actual soccer. Remember when we had park leagues or just siht loads of young lads playing soccer all over shannon? just doesn't happen anymore. Also the creative player that comes from street soccer is missing and coached players dont have same natural ability as natural players i.e. bunny carr

brutus
07/03/2007, 2:53 PM
Brutus should you not be doing some press ups and trying to get a glimpse of the promised land......or are you saving your energy for the weekend:rolleyes:

first wot on gods earth are you on about,are you alright:rolleyes:

Goals4fun
07/03/2007, 3:06 PM
i.e. bunny carr

who got his skills from kicking ball in dublin.
at least the clubs are trying to have decent set ups for school boys.

i think you could get a good squad to represent shannon. There are a few good players with each club and also a few who have travelled abroad.
any body want to give the best 4 players from each club and pick 4 players that are playing abroad that would make a nice 20 to take to a game like that !

Lev Yashin
07/03/2007, 3:12 PM
why should we not expect teams to be in same category as pike / etc.. all teams above with exception of olympic all have good underage set ups... my arguement is were do all these underage players go when they reach 18 .. look around at all the shannon teams how many have players who came through their underage set ups ..currently playing for them ( probally only newtown) all i am saying that standard in shannon & clare has dropped in recent years and cannot understand why ..:ball: if a player is half decent you will know even if he is 18-22

are you serious...have you looked at the shannon town team.....i would say nearly all of us have played some if not all our schoolboy/youth football with shannon town.

old git
07/03/2007, 3:21 PM
are you serious...have you looked at the shannon town team.....i would say nearly all of us have played some if not all our schoolboy/youth football with shannon town.
ok i stand corrected .. but on the downside ye have a good underage system. for years and yet still struggle to get out division 1a.. ( not having a dig at you) surely ye should be getting enough players through underage ranks to get you into preimer & keep you there .. :ball:

First
07/03/2007, 3:29 PM
first wot on gods earth are you on about,are you alright:rolleyes:

Have I ever been alright:)

brutus
07/03/2007, 4:01 PM
who got his skills from kicking ball in dublin.
at least the clubs are trying to have decent set ups for school boys.

i think you could get a good squad to represent shannon. There are a few good players with each club and also a few who have travelled abroad.
any body want to give the best 4 players from each club and pick 4 players that are playing abroad that would make a nice 20 to take to a game like that !

park(quirkey,shane mccarthy,locks,hedgey)
shannon town(ger kelly,griffin,the other lad who left park,strong midfielder,pogger carew)
newtown(derek burn,tom o hare,cheeky,ryan kelly,
olympic(john ryan,j-regan,jimmy houligan,terry duggan)

there is just a run off of a few stronger players at each club,many good other players i havent mentioned..

Spudd
07/03/2007, 4:13 PM
park(quirkey,shane mccarthy,locks,hedgey)
shannon town(ger kelly,griffin,the other lad who left park,strong midfielder,pogger carew)
newtown(derek burn,tom o hare,cheeky,ryan kelly,
olympic(john ryan,j-regan,jimmy houligan,terry duggan)

there is just a run off of a few stronger players at each club,many good other players i havent mentioned..

We playing box goals or last man in or somthing kid?
Skinny has to get a mention....

Spudd
07/03/2007, 4:15 PM
What about Eddie the estonian lad that played for Park rangers last year or the season before last? Has he Hung up his boots for more hours in Eddie currans?

brutus
07/03/2007, 4:26 PM
We playing box goals or last man in or somthing kid?
Skinny has to get a mention....

i was askd to mention four of the best from each squad,so dont be gettn smart young lad,:cool:

Spudd
07/03/2007, 4:35 PM
i was askd to mention four of the best from each squad,so dont be gettn smart young lad,:cool:

You were asked,and as i said...you forgot to mention skinny...He's the best keeper in clare so he obviously deserves to be in Newtowns top 4 players.

brutus
07/03/2007, 4:44 PM
You were asked,and as i said...you forgot to mention skinny...He's the best keeper in clare so he obviously deserves to be in Newtowns top 4 players.

he is a great keeper but he is not as good as whelers for bunratty young lad,deep down u know yourself...:D