Stuart Byrnes RTE Rant [Archive] - Page 3

David

20/11/2006, 10:56 AM

OK - will let's pop back to our good friends the facts and see what they have to say about the relative merits of the teams involved :

Teams Played
Linfield 1966/7 : FC Aris, FC Valarengen, CSKA Sofia.
Shelbourne 2004 : KR Reykjavik, Hdjuk Split, Deportivo La Coruna.
Derry 2006 : IFK Gothenborg, Gretna FC, Paris St Germain.

Looking at the teams involved, Linfield definitely had the least tricky opponents - even accounting for the ebbs and flows in standing over time. Admittedly, there isn't much in it in terms of quality of opposition when comparing Shels and Derry - we had a much tougher first round (though still managed to win both legs, whilst Shels drew both of theirs and had to rely on away goals to scrape through), and Shels had a tougher second round.

Also - if you want to try to reduce the impact of our run by bringing up issues such as how seriously clubs take each competition, I will happily bat that back with references to the fact that the gap between Irish football and the rest of the European pack in 1966/7 was narrower than it is today.

But bottom line is that the facts clearly state that Derry had a better run in Europe than Shels in 2004 and Linfield in 1966. If only you weren't so bitter and twisted about the Cadnystripes, you might be man enough to admit you called this one very wrong.

And when did I say differently ?

Oh David - put that handbag down. At your age you'll do yourself some real damage swinging it around like that.....

Good for you, and thanks for sharing that with me - even though i didn't mention Pat Fenlon anywhere in my post. A wee tip for you - different log-on names and avators usually suggests posts from different people....

Apologies for quoting you incorrectly, it was of course Lofty. I still think that Shels run is better than Derry's on the basis that they got through the same number of rounds in astronger competition.

David

20/11/2006, 10:57 AM

David I hope you are ok. I worry when this happens to veteran keyboard warriors! I worry for myself that you could mix me up with that eejit:D .

Apologies for attributing your remarks to Steve when it was you that sadly tried to politicise things. Why would I not regard Linfield as Irish out of curiousity?

lofty9

20/11/2006, 11:02 AM

Apologies for attributing your remarks to Steve when it was you that sadly tried to politicise things. Why would I not regard Linfield as Irish out of curiousity?

I honestly never thought Linfield supporters regarded themselves or club as Irish. Full apololigies.

David

20/11/2006, 11:06 AM

I honestly never thought Linfield supporters regarded themselves or club as Irish. Full apololigies.

As a statement of fact we are from the island of ireland, therefore Irish. We also class ourselves as British in the same way that someone from England would class themselves as English and also British. Lesson over for today. :p

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 11:22 AM

Apologies for quoting you incorrectly, it was of course Lofty. I still think that Shels run is better than Derry's on the basis that they got through the same number of rounds in astronger competition.

The title of the competition you play in doesn't itself make your run easy or hard. A competition has no 'strength' in-of itself. It's the teams in that competition give it its strength, and the teams you face that determine how easy your run is. Is It harder to finish in a UEFA Cup slot in England or France than in a CL spot in the IL or EL, for example...?

You could play 2 rounds in the CL against easy teams or 2 rounds in the UEFA Cup against hard teams. It would still be clear which was the tougher achievement, regardless of competition title.

If you compare the 3 teams Derry faced with the 3 teams Shelbourne faced, there is very very little between them overall in terms of strength.

Also - if you want to factor-in the relative strengths of competitions in determining the merits of success within them, then surely finishing joint-first in the Eircom League is harder than finishing top of the Irish League, as you're so proud to point out the 2 positions ? This year's Setanta showed the relative imbalance between the leagues, as have recent European results.... :D

David

20/11/2006, 11:27 AM

The title of the competition you play in doesn't itself make your run easy or hard. A competition has no 'strength' in-of itself. It's the teams in that competition give it its strength, and the teams you face that determine how easy your run is. Is It harder to finish in a UEFA Cup slot in England or France than in a CL spot in the IL or EL, for example...?

You could play 2 rounds in the CL against easy teams or 2 rounds in the UEFA Cup against hard teams. It would still be clear which was the tougher achievement, regardless of competition title.

If you compare the 3 teams Derry faced with the 3 teams Shelbourne faced, there is very very little between them overall in terms of strength.

Also - if you want to factor-in the relative strengths of competitions in determining the merits of success within them, then surely finishing joint-first in the Eircom League is harder than finishing top of the Irish League, as you're so proud to point out the 2 positions ? This year's Setanta showed the relative imbalance between the leagues, as have recent European results.... :D

Wasn't aware that you finished joint first, I thought you finished second. Also, I would say the Deportivo side that put Shels out would be far superior to the PSG side that Derry faced. You just have to look at the respective leagues there.

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 11:37 AM

Wasn't aware that you finished joint first, I thought you finished second. Also, I would say the Deportivo side that put Shels out would be far superior to the PSG side that Derry faced. You just have to look at the respective leagues there.

And the Gothenborg side we beat hoeme and away would've been leaps and bounds ahead of the Reykjavik side Shels only managed 2 draws against. That's why i said "overall" there isn't much between the sets of teams.

higgins

20/11/2006, 12:07 PM

However, the mark of a good team is not knowing when to back down. I'm sure you think your chairman is doing a sterling job for you for that reason.

Wrong assumption

David

20/11/2006, 12:22 PM

And the Gothenborg side we beat hoeme and away would've been leaps and bounds ahead of the Reykjavik side Shels only managed 2 draws against. That's why i said "overall" there isn't much between the sets of teams.

Whereas Gretna? About the level of Reykjavik I would say with Gothenberg around the level of Hadjuk Split.

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 12:30 PM

Whereas Gretna? About the level of Reykjavik I would say with Gothenberg around the level of Hadjuk Split.

I'd put Gretna a bit above Reykjavik, Gothenborg around the same as Hadjuk, and Deportivo a bit above PSG. But no matter how you cut it, there isn't any huge gulf between the teams - the standard across both sets is broadly similar, yet Derry achieved remarkably better results than Shels did.

I see you've given up trying to defend any comaprison with Linfield's performance in 1966 though... :D

David

20/11/2006, 12:36 PM

I'd put Gretna a bit above Reykjavik, Gothenborg around the same as Hadjuk, and Deportivo a bit above PSG. But no matter how you cut it, there isn't any huge gulf between the teams - the standard across both sets is broadly similar, yet Derry achieved remarkably better results than Shels did.

I see you've given up trying to defend any comaprison with Linfield's performance in 1966 though... :D

There is simply no argument there, surely getting into the last eight of Europe's premier club competition surpasses getting into the first round proper of a lesser competition like the UEFA Cup. You cannot measure things solely by the level of the opposition. Would that meaning winning the FAI Cup would be devalued if you got an easy draw through to the final?

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 1:16 PM

There is simply no argument there, surely getting into the last eight of Europe's premier club competition surpasses getting into the first round proper of a lesser competition like the UEFA Cup. You cannot measure things solely by the level of the opposition. Would that meaning winning the FAI Cup would be devalued if you got an easy draw through to the final?

It is a totally valid arguement. Making the quarter finals of the European Champions Cup in 1966 only required knocking out 2 opponents. Nowadays, knocking out 2 opponents in the Champions League would only get Linfield as far as the First Round Proper. You'd have to play another 6 or 7 teams to reach the Quarter-final equivalent today. On top of that, the seeding system that is in-play nowadays means the quality of opponent is higher as the tournament progresses - which wasn't the case in 1966. So you'd have to play two or three times as many teams, of increasing difficulty, to replicate nowadays what you achieved 40 years ago versus only 2 opponents. So that is clearly tougher - without in any way making the competition any less appealing either then or now.

Are you suggesting, for example, that winning a World Cup involving only 13 teams in 1930 was no harder than winning one in 2006 with 32 teams nd many more rounds to get through ??? The value of tournaments doesn't fluctuate on a year-on-year basis dependent upon who progresses in them - the FA Cup wasn't lessened by Wimbledon winning it in 1988, for example, nor has the FAI Cup been lessened by Bray winning it as a First Division club in 1990. But that doesn't prevent the difficulty of winning such a trophy from alternating over time - dependent upon format, total number and strength of entrants, and the quality of entrants any individual team faces.

Gretna made the Scottish Cup Final in 2006 without having to face a single SPL opponent. Hearts made the final by facing and beating 3 opponents from Scotland's top flight. Gretna clearly had an easier route to the final. Saying that does not in any way devalue that particular tournament.

higgins

20/11/2006, 1:32 PM

As you can see, Derry won 3 times as many games, bagging almost twice as many points (in the traditional sense of 3pts for a win, 1 for a draw), and scored 50% more goals. Derry also made a greater contribution to the Eircom League's co-efficient, despite CL points being worth more at an earlier stage.

Shelbourne had the better run...

What Shelbourne did was in the Champions League for a start and despite what you think its easier to gain coefficient points in the UEFA due to there only being two qualifying rounds and not three.

Teams are also of a higher standard.

I guess you as a Derry fan wouldn't know too much about Champions League football anayway.

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 1:39 PM

Shelbourne had the better run...

What Shelbourne did was in the Champions League for a start and despite what you think its easier to gain coefficient points in the UEFA due to there only being two qualifying rounds and not three.

Teams are also of a higher standard.

I guess you as a Derry fan wouldn't know too much about Champions League football anayway.

We wouldn't know much about relegation either - something Shels fans know all too well from past experience. An experience that may well repeat itself in the very near future as your convict Chairman presses his fat fingers on the self-destruct button attached to the sinking ship of your pathetic little sham club.

And as one of the few Shelbourne fans, you probably wouldn't know much about accepting facts and reality either.... :rolleyes:

Look at my previous thread where I listed the teams and results form our 2 European runs. The teams we played and you played are, as a whole, broadly similar in standard. Yet our results were dramatically better. The difference in standard between the 2 tournaments is irrelevant in comparing our performances- it's the strength of oppositon that counts. Scraping through on away goals after failing to beat Rejkyavik is NOT a better result than beating IFK Gothenborg home and away, for example - regardless of the individual merits of the competitiosn those isolated results occured in.

How's Fenlon getting on down in Dublin by the way......? :o

OneRedArmy

20/11/2006, 1:39 PM

I guess you as a Derry fan wouldn't know too much about Champions League football anayway.Well you never know, we might get a shot next year if Ollie can't pull the next rabbit out of the hat before next season.

Ollie's continued vindictive attitude towards certain clubs has ensured that Shels UEFA license submission will be fairly heavily scrutinised before next season.

wws

20/11/2006, 2:06 PM

higgins

20/11/2006, 2:09 PM

We wouldn't know much about relegation either - something Shels fans know all too well from past experience. An experience that may well repeat itself in the very near future as your convict Chairman presses his fat fingers on the self-destruct button attached to the sinking ship of your pathetic little sham club.

All comes back to Ollie and how you hate Shels ?

Hard to have a proper debate with you if your hatred of Ollie keeps getting in the way. I thought I made a comment on european runs and Derry not knowing much about Champions League football ? What has your rant got to do with that ?

Look at my previous thread where I listed the teams and results form our 2 European runs.

I had a quick look ....
For a start we played 8 games so I dont have a clue why you only listed 6 ?

1Davy

20/11/2006, 2:19 PM

I'm too busy counting the number of league titles we've won in that time to give a toss. Though if you want to know, the head to head in the league this season was an embarassing humilation for Shels. Look at this, awful stuff

Played 3, won 1, drawn 1, lost 1

Pales in comparison to Kennys almighty Derrys record against us, shockingly, played 3, won 1, drawn 1, lost 1.

Shameful. But sure at least we've out 3rd title in 4 years to console ourselves over it. It's a crum of comfort, at least.

You left out the fact we beat you in the LC final with only 9 men.

We beat you in the FAI cup in your own ground for the last three years.

And as for the 1 win you mention, that was 1 win in the last 14 times we have played you.

The 1 drawn game you mention, was when Derry were down to 10 men for most of the game, and we hadn't a regular goal keeper.

Remember the score when our keeper was sent off was 2-0 in Tolka.

I know, i know, it's so hard to take a beating all the time.

How so? I was at that game and don't know what you are talking about.

Yeah you really took that defeat really well.

One picture is worth a thousand words ......

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/9397/crowejg1oy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

David, there are also some chips on your shoulders, for whatever reason, I don't know. Have you anything good to say about Derry City FC at all? Will you ever have? Well done to Linfield for their wonderful European exploits, I remember watching it on TV years ago. Plenty of well deserverd media coverage at the time, if I recall. Nice to see you regard Linfield as Irish too. That's a welcome break from the norm.

Concentrate on congratulating Shelbourne on winning the league and stop having a pop at DCFC at every whim. BTW are you going to go to the Brandywell when your hero Fenlon takes over the reigns from Kenny? Somehow I think your dislike for Derry will put a sour taste to your liking for him when that happens.

David's pet hate is Derry City.

He can't hide his bitterness as can be seen on other forums.

When the BBC decided to show our European Cup game he almost overdosed on Prozac.

David

20/11/2006, 2:20 PM

I had a quick look ....
For a start we played 8 games so I dont have a clue why you only listed 6 ?

Brilliant, sort of shafts Steve's argument that one. :D

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 2:23 PM

All comes back to Ollie and how you hate Shels ?

I do hate Olly - not through some irrational urge as you may like to think, but because he is a dangerous man who has both the potential and the clear desire to tear Irish football down with him as his club - the only think he has in his wifeless/partnerless/child-less life - is unravelling around him. I don't displike Shels per se - I just find it very difficult to like them whilst that convict is at the helm destroying all around him in a desparate attempt to retain the only thing of any meaning in his life.

Hard to have a proper debate with you if your hatred of Ollie keeps getting in the way. I thought I made a comment on european runs and Derry not knowing much about Champions League football ? What has your rant got to do with that ?

Oh I see - your cheap and childish jibe re Derry not being in the Champions League was actually a central part of your mature arguement was it ? :rolleyes:

Ok then - in response : the only way Shels fans will be seeing the words 'Champions' and 'League' used in the same breath after next year is when you're battling with the likes of Monaghan and Kilkenny for the First Division title once your club has self-destructed. Happy now that I've made my jibe about as relevant as yours....? :rolleyes:

I had a quick look ....
For a start we played 8 games so I dont have a clue why you only listed 6 ?

Firstly, because you only played 3 teams in any single competition. Secondly, because the comparison was with 2 other Irish clubs who'd faced 3 sides in a single European competition. Thirdly, I'll happily add your results against Lille into the grid if you like, as the draw and defeat you managed against them does little to alter the comparison anyway ! Derry still amassed more points in their run playing one opponent less than you did in yours....! :o

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 2:25 PM

Brilliant, sort of shafts Steve's argument that one. :D

Really ? See my above post, Captain Bitter....

:rolleyes:

hoops1

20/11/2006, 2:26 PM

Here's that old Derry City chip on both shoulders. Best European results ever? I would say Shels run in the Champions league a few years ago might outdo you in that one, not to mention Linfield getting to the quarter finals of the European Cup but I suppose it is only a matter of time until Derry, the self proclaimed greatest club in the world qualify for the group stages of the Champions League. Oh that's right I forgot, that would mean you actually winning the league first

:D Spot on.

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 2:31 PM

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 2:33 PM

:D Spot on.

Afternoon Hoops1.

Have you actually bothered to read any of the previous posts, or were you just too excited at the prospect of slagging Derry to bother to see if the facts even supported it......? :rolleyes:

MrJoeSoap

20/11/2006, 2:36 PM

Yeah you really took that defeat really well.

One picture is worth a thousand words ......

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/9397/crowejg1oy3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Yeah it only paints a thousand words because there is nothing else you can say on the issue. I shook hands with plenty of Derry fans that night, despite the fact I was hit with a nagan bottle and a coin.

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 2:39 PM

Yeah it only paints a thousand words because there is nothing else you can say on the issue. I shook hands with plenty of Derry fans that night, despite the fact I was hit with a nagan bottle and a coin.

Nothing compared to what goes on in Tolka on a weekly basis, to be fair, so dry your eyes.

At least you've accepted that Shels were sore losers that night.

lofty9

20/11/2006, 2:39 PM

David.... I know you actually had a good word to say about us!!! Look what I found in reference to last years Setanta!!:D

To be honest going on each team's game against us Derry are a far superior side to Shelbourne.

Jerry The Saint

20/11/2006, 2:44 PM

back on topic steweys rant was world class and worthy of live prime time tv (he actually had a further go on radio - if anything topping that rant!)

we need more of that sort of thing

legendary

easily the best contribution shels have ever made to the development of the league as an entertaining product

It was the classic warped Shels rant and a great indication of how Ollie infects those around him with his trademark paranoia, bitterness and total lack of class. Just look at any number of Fenlon's rants over the years. Rico's freakout earlier in the season was notable because separation from Ollie adds it's own level of bitterness "I used to benefit from the pro-Shels bias, now I'm getting ridden ROCK SOLID!".

Byrne started off with the default footballer-speak cliches - "Yeah, fantastic, I'm absolutely delighted" but you can pinpoint the exact second when all sense and reason departed from his eyes :D

".....ehh, I'm angry! I'm angry Tony, to be honest with you."

Only a true apprentice of Darth Ollie could view the bankruptcy of Dublin City as a plot to ROB Shels of the league title! :eek:

David

20/11/2006, 2:46 PM

David.... I know you actually had a good word to say about us!!! Look what I found in reference to last years Setanta!!:D

Yes and going by the performances against us I stand by that, Derry I felt were the better team from the two but over the course of the season is what matters and the league table simply does not lie, the team that wins the league are the best in the country, end of story.

hoops1

20/11/2006, 2:49 PM

David

20/11/2006, 2:51 PM

Derry fans (and Steve in particular) are very fond of stats. Here is the only one that matters at the minute:

http://www.eleven-a-side.com/statistics/premier.asp

OneRedArmy

20/11/2006, 3:04 PM

Trophies are what count not memories Ironic from a Rovers fan.

PS 1st division titles don't count, not even as a half.

MrJoeSoap

20/11/2006, 3:12 PM

Nothing compared to what goes on in Tolka on a weekly basis, to be fair, so dry your eyes.

My eyes are dry, and my smile is still wide from Friday, thanks.

At least you've accepted that Shels were sore losers that night.

As much as you wish I would, I haven't.

WeAreRovers

20/11/2006, 3:21 PM

Ironic from a Rovers fan.

Why? Because we've won more trophies than anyone else? Not sure you've fully grasped the concept of irony. :confused:

KOH

razor

20/11/2006, 3:43 PM

To soothe your masochistic tendency Higgins, and to show you up for being a clueless WUM David, I've added the Shels v Lille scores into the comparative table for European runs to show how it makes feck all difference to the overall picture :

P W D L F A PTS
Shels 2004 8 1 4 3 8 12 7
Derry 2006 6 3 2 1 9 5 11

Average points per game : Shels 0.875 ; Derry 1.833. More than double.

Average goals per game : Shels 1 ; Derry 1.5 . 50% more.

Average goals conceeded per game : Shels 1.5 ; Derry 0.833. Almost half as many.

Any other way you'd like me to cut your humble pie, sirs....? :rolleyes:Doing all the points & stuff is ridiculous. The Champions League is a stronger competition than the UEFA Cup. Both Shels & Derrys runs were admirable but Shels does rank higher in my opinion.
Swedish football is awful and Irish teams have been consistantly beating Swedish opposition for years, Then beat a 2nd tier Scottish team and went out to a bottom of the table French side. Deportivo were a class outfit at the time Shels played them.

gustavo

20/11/2006, 3:53 PM

You can twist the stats to suit you either way , Lille might be a bottom of the table French side , or they might be a side that went on to finish 2nd that season:)

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 4:05 PM

Afternoon stalker.
Listen very carefully I shall say this only once.
CL is better than the Uefa cup. The teams are better, the games are harder to win and the further you go the quality is far better plus the trophy is nicer.
99% of the whinging this year has come from Derry not Shels amazingly even
when Derry have won.
Shels deserved the league Derry bottled it.Trophies are what count not memories and Shels have won the biggest in the country.When its all over you
can tell great tales of winning those league cups.Nothing else matters as no one cares

You can tell you clearly haven't read the thread, as I answered your CL comments earlier. Interesting to hear your view that drawing with Rejkyavik twice was a harder ask than beating Gotheborg twice. After all - it's the tournament that counts, not the teams you play in it.... :rolleyes:

As for your allegations re crying, not winning the league etc. Shels deserved to win the league over the season - end of story. Where have I said anything different ?

I've been criticising Ollie Byrne for years now, and will continue to do so regardless of who wins what, as I firmly believe that the man is a danger to Irish football. He has a psychological and emotional dependency upon Shels, as the things most other people have to add meaning and purpose to their lives (wives, partners, meaninful relationships, kids etc) are missing form his. If he loses Shels he loses the only thing in his life with any meaning to him, and as a result he is not capable of logical or rational thought re the club. And that is what makes hima danger to Irish football. Me pointing that out has feck all to do with trophies, titles or league cups, so stop putting 2 and 2 together and getting a crock of sh!t.

As for the "stalker" bit - a tortoise with superglue on his feet would have a better track record of stalking you than me. Nice try though.

OneRedArmy

20/11/2006, 4:08 PM

Why? Because we've won more trophies than anyone else? Not sure you've fully grasped the concept of irony. :confused:
KOHI found the reference to trophies being more important than memories amusing and ironic from a fan of a club that clings to its memories more than any other.

Unless of course memories of trophies are worth significantly more than memories of no trophies?

We all know that in time Shels trophies will live in the memory the same way those of Drumcondra, Transport and countless defunct Cork teams do.

dcfcsteve

20/11/2006, 4:11 PM

Derry fans (and Steve in particular) are very fond of stats. Here is the only one that matters at the minute:

http://www.eleven-a-side.com/statistics/premier.asp

No - you forgot one other one that matters at the minute David..... :

http://irishpremierleague.com/statistics.htm

You may have a bit of a struggle on your hands to even qualify for the following year's Setanta Cup at this rate..... :o

WeAreRovers

20/11/2006, 4:31 PM

Unless of course memories of trophies are worth significantly more than memories of no trophies?

Well what do you reckon? :rolleyes:

KOH

jebus

20/11/2006, 5:49 PM

Haven't read most of this thread so don't know where this argument is going, but for what it's worth (a big fat zilch I'm sure) I have no problem with Stuart Byrne's rant against Kenny or Shels Haters or anyone else. The guy has just won a thrilling finale to the league and has had to listen to Kenny mouth off about Shels enough, so surely he's entitled to fire back? Especially in the heat of the moment?

Red&White

20/11/2006, 6:11 PM

Jerry The Saint

20/11/2006, 6:32 PM

The guy has just won a thrilling finale to the league and has had to listen to Kenny mouth off about Shels enough, so surely he's entitled to fire back? Especially in the heat of the moment?

*Radio switches on, playing Sonny and Cher's 'I Got You Babe.'*

Really? My radio's playing this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvxKcMU4kuo

It was the heat of the moment...
Telling me what your heart meant
The heat of the moment showed in your eyes

I never meant to be so bad to you
One thing I said that I would never do
One look from you and I would fall from grace
And that would wipe the smile right from my face

Do you remember when we used to dance? (clap, clap, clap)
And incidents arose from circumstance (clap, clap, clap)
One thing led to another, we were young (clap, clap, clap)
And we would scream together songs unsung

It was the heat of the moment...
Telling me what your heart meant
The heat of the moment showed in your eyes

Excuse me, I have something in my eye...:(

CollegeTillIDie

20/11/2006, 9:34 PM

Methinks Stuart Byrne is too young to remember that classic song by Asia from 1982.:D

David

21/11/2006, 7:43 AM

No - you forgot one other one that matters at the minute David..... :

http://irishpremierleague.com/statistics.htm

You may have a bit of a struggle on your hands to even qualify for the following year's Setanta Cup at this rate..... :o

Difference in those two league tables though is that one is a final table. ;) Fancy a wee wager on us qualifying for the Setanta next year? The loser can pay the money to a charity of the winner's choice.

dcfcsteve

21/11/2006, 10:10 AM

Difference in those two league tables though is that one is a final table. ;) Fancy a wee wager on us qualifying for the Setanta next year? The loser can pay the money to a charity of the winner's choice.

Fancy a wager on whether or not you'll finish champions in the final table then... ?

Winning proceeds to go to the other person's club....

shed_ender

21/11/2006, 10:36 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKxsvjUkmk

Hero. Amazing performance tonight. If we had lost and he had said that people would have called him a bad loser, so fair ****s to him for coming out and saying what he thought. Certainly made some entertaining viewing!

Thanks for posting that link MrJoeSoap.
I watched the game but was so disgusted that shower won the league that I turned it off before the interview.
Having seen it now all I can say is:

"Will you ever f**k off Stuart Byrne you complete and utter w***er."

Talking about being "robbed blind" while having a convicted thief as your chairman gave me a good laugh I must say.
As for drawing up about the Dublin City affair, you'd think Shels were the only club that lost points because of it.
F**k off Byrne you idiot, I hope ye get walloped in the Champions League.

David

21/11/2006, 10:47 AM

Fancy a wager on whether or not you'll finish champions in the final table then... ?

Winning proceeds to go to the other person's club....

So you are not prepared to back up your original statement on us struggling to qualify for the Setanta? ;)

dcfcsteve

21/11/2006, 11:01 AM

So you are not prepared to back up your original statement on us struggling to qualify for the Setanta? ;)

What - the one that said "you may have a but of a struggle..." ? I'll happily back that up - as "may" means feck all.

So you don't have the confidence in Linfield winning the league to put a wager down on it ? :) After all - if you're slagging City off for finishing joint top on points, then surely you must be expecting Linfield to do better ?

Or is it the fear that some of your money might end up in Derry City hands that's holding you back...? :D

C'mon - I'll even let you pay me in George Best fivers.....