Tipp South & District League 2006/07

[zizu's head]

Here are the results from the weekend!

Munster Junior Cup 2nd Round

Rock Rovers...1 Clonmel Celtic...2

Cashel Town...0 Clonmel Town...2

Cahir Park...2 Rosegreen Rangers...0



Munster Junior Cup 1st Round

Gooldscross FC...0 Two Mile Borris FC...4

[Van The Man]

Anybody any idea why on earth Clonmel Celtic V Rock and Peake V Killusty have K.O. times of 11.30am and 11.15am.

In fairness should FAI games not get centre stage at 2.00pm or 2.00pm !!!! I know Keating and Keane are down for these game and they are down as officials in the Wilderness and Town game in the afternoon, but personally I think that's a bit rich having the games at 11.30 and 11.15 !!!!

Maybe it's just me :confused:

[balls]

what difference does it make what time games kick off. players prefer morning kick off s anyway. and its not as if kick off time effects how many will be in attendance at the game. the standard of reffing in the league has dropped alot this season also.

[Van The Man]

what difference does it make what time games kick off. players prefer morning kick off s anyway. and its not as if kick off time effects how many will be in attendance at the game. the standard of reffing in the league has dropped alot this season also.

I'll have to disagree on you on 2 of your 3 points above. Players perfer afternoon kick-off's. Obviously we come from different parts of the county where your players seem to enjoy the am kick-off. And yes the kickoff time does effect the attendance in games to tell you the truth, far more people attend afternoon kickoffs in my part of the county. So we'll agree to disagree on this one, obviously because of the geography of the county.

The reffering hasn't actually dropped, it's still at the same level.....that level been POOR and VERY POOR at that.....

[Van The Man]

Ballingarry Albion v Kilsheelan United
Bansha Celtic v Vee Rovers
Cahir Park v Old Bridge FC
Cashel Town v Dualla FC
Cashel Town B v Kilmanahan United
Clonmel Celtic v Mullinahone FC
Clonmel Town B v Galbally United B
Galbally United v Wilderness Rovers
Glengoole United v Cullen-Lattin FC
Gooldscross v Two Mile Borris
Hollyford FC v Sarsfield Rovers
Killenaule Rovers v Clonmel Celtic B
Peake Villa v Two Mile Borris B
Peake Villa B v Donohill-Doon Celtic
Redmondstown FC v Killusty
Rock Rovers v Clonmel Town
Rosegreen Rangers v St. Michael’s
St. Kieran’s v Burncourt Celtic
St. Michael’s B v Glen Villa
St. Nicholas v Commons
*Moyglass United a bye

[jug2004]

tie of the round has to be rock rovers at home to clonmel town, what i'd give to be a fly on the wall down there and only a fly i mite add, anyone else maybe in danger especially after the shennanigans that went on in clonmel last year. Four rock lads off in the match surely they'll be baying for blood! Bookies mite take odds on which clonmel player to be knocked out first !!:ball:

[wilhelm2]

anyone know why st michaels v clonmel celtic match
and peake villa v two mile borris match postponed yesterday????

[stevie11]

match last year was a joke.think Rock forgot it was a soccer match(say they thought it was a destruction derby match)id have a tun on barnes to be de 1st to draw blood!!!

[Van The Man]

This weekend sees Peak Villa travel to Kinsale, Two Mile Borris at home to Killester and Clonmel Town away to Waterford Crystal.

A question for people out there. As it's the FAI weekend and 3 of the TSDL teams been represented in it, why have the TSDL decided to have Peak Villa B game go ahead in the Peter O'Reilly Cup and don't have Two Mile Borris B or Clonmel Town B teams play at all.

Should the top men of the TSDL not have a bit of common sense and realise that no "B" team of any club should be playing when their "A" team is representing the TSDL in the FAI Junior Cup. In an age where support for local soccer in general is poor, how do the TSDL expect Peak Villa supporters and "B" players to travel to Kinsale when they have an 11.00am K.O. away from home...:confused: :confused:

"IS IT JUST ME, OR DO THE TSDL TOP MEN JUST NOT HAVE A CLUE"

[jug2004]

well at last you've shown your true colours haha! i totally agree with you on the TSDL they haven't a got a clue but then we do have a bunch of small minded farners runnin the show, i know peake won the wknd did they deserve it van, whats good to see about them is that they are giving away very few goals again that will make them very strong. As for this wknd predictions anyone, probably peake on penos(although kinsale are a massive side which won't siut peake) i think crystal on penos 2 and i think the killester borris match will only be shootin practise for the big guns from dublin, any ideas guys?:confused:

[Van The Man]

well at last you've shown your true colours haha! i totally agree with you on the TSDL they haven't a got a clue but then we do have a bunch of small minded farners runnin the show, i know peake won the wknd did they deserve it van, whats good to see about them is that they are giving away very few goals again that will make them very strong. As for this wknd predictions anyone, probably peake on penos(although kinsale are a massive side which won't siut peake) i think crystal on penos 2 and i think the killester borris match will only be shootin practise for the big guns from dublin, any ideas guys?:confused:

True colours they are not, I would have said the same if Town or Two-Mile- Borris had a fixture, I read the fixtures on the TSDL website and couldn't believe my eyes when I saw Peak down for a fixture. But I'm an avid fan of the TSDL progressing in the FAI and showing the rest of the country that the TSDL is a force to be reckoned with.
Didn't see the peak game the weekend, but as you mentioned any team that lets in few goals can't be that bad. As for the predictions, Kinsale to take it before penos 1-0. Crystal will come out of this tie 2-1. And for the Killester game, your looking at 4-1, Borris always good for a goal, if scott is on form.
Might travel to see the Killester and Borris game this weekend. Would like to see Killester play and see are they as good and people say.

Best of Luck to Town, Peak & Borris and hopefully they can all join Cahir in the last 32.

[C.T.F.C]

This weekend sees Peak Villa travel to Kinsale, Two Mile Borris at home to Killester and Clonmel Town away to Waterford Crystal.

A question for people out there. As it's the FAI weekend and 3 of the TSDL teams been represented in it, why have the TSDL decided to have Peak Villa B game go ahead in the Peter O'Reilly Cup and don't have Two Mile Borris B or Clonmel Town B teams play at all.

Should the top men of the TSDL not have a bit of common sense and realise that no "B" team of any club should be playing when their "A" team is representing the TSDL in the FAI Junior Cup. In an age where support for local soccer in general is poor, how do the TSDL expect Peak Villa supporters and "B" players to travel to Kinsale when they have an 11.00am K.O. away from home...:confused: :confused:



"IS IT JUST ME, OR DO THE TSDL TOP MEN JUST NOT HAVE A CLUE"

I have to agree- its ridiculous scheduling a B game when the A side are involved in the FAI. Just discovered that 4 of the Town panel are due to play for the TSDL youths on Saturday. Now thats really clever:rolleyes:

[Van The Man]

I have to agree- its ridiculous scheduling a B game when the A side are involved in the FAI. Just discovered that 4 of the Town panel are due to play for the TSDL youths on Saturday. Now thats really clever:rolleyes:

It's very narrow minded by the men in charge of fixtures in the TSDL, surely somebody somewhere see the fixtures and notices that Town have youth players on the Junior Team that are playing the FAI game !!!! Maybe it's blinkers they have on :eek:

Mind you I did notice on "The Star" yesterday that the FAI Game between Peak and Kinsale was fixed for Saturday, and on the TSDL website it's Sunday !! Anybody any confirmation on this ?:confused:

[Tipperary_Man]

Borris were outclassed 6-0 by Killester, they are a serious outift and one of the fittrst junior sides i've seen. twas 1-0 at half time but 3 goals in the first 5 minutes of the second half put any sign of a shock to bed. Just wondering what's the story with redser? saw him at the borris game even though Peake were playing down in cork

[balls]

6-0 is some beating to give them they must be a serious outfit cause borris aint bad. clonmel and peake scrape through hopefully they will get home ties in next ground

[Den Perry]

Borris were outclassed 6-0 by Killester, they are a serious outift and one of the fittrst junior sides i've seen. twas 1-0 at half time but 3 goals in the first 5 minutes of the second half put any sign of a shock to bed. Just wondering what's the story with redser? saw him at the borris game even though Peake were playing down in cork

Injured...fell out of one of his Christmas TRees

[Tipperary_Man]

6-0 is some beating to give them they must be a serious outfit cause borris aint bad. clonmel and peake scrape through hopefully they will get home ties in next ground

Borris were without the injured Danny Graham and Ken Ryan was only a sub because he was also carrying an injury, however I wont take anything away from the Killester performance. Very impressive altogether, the movement off the ball was something else and they are a very disciplined team which could stand them in good steed in later rounds. There was not one dirty tackle on their part. Borris finished the game with 9 men, 1 sent off for a second bookable offence when it could have been a straight red and another sent off for deliberate handball

[Tipperary_Man]

just got the end of the draw on 2fm this morning, cahir got a home draw i think to Newcastle West and so did Town to Janesboro, i'd say they will both fancy thier chances to progress. Any word on who Peake got or Celtic if they progress?

[zizu's head]

FAI STATOIL JUNIOR CHALLENGE CUP 2006/07

Fixtures for Round Six (January 14)






CAHIR PARK AFC (Tipperary) v NEWCASTLE WEST (Limerick)
GRATTAN UTD / CLONMEL CELTIC V PEAKE VILLA (Tipperary)
NEWTOWN / ST. JAMES GATE v SALTHILL DEVON /DCU

LAGAN HARPS (Donegal) v PORTMARNOCK (Dublin)

CLONMEL TOWN (Tipperary) v JANESBORO (Limerick)

KILLARNEY CELTIC / ROCKMOUNT v CAREW PARK (Limerick)

GALWAY HIBS (Galway) v SHANGAN ATHLETIC (Dublin)

LISADELL UTD (Dublin) v VILLA (Waterford)

PIKE ROVERS (Limerick) v BALLYMUN UTD (Dublin)

W.F.TA FC v MELVILLE/MULLINGAR ATH v WEST UTD (Galway)

WOODVIEW CELTIC (Meath) v CORDUFF or LAKEWOOD ATH/COACHFORD

CASTLEREA CELTIC / KILUMNEY UTD v KILLINARDEN ATH/DRUMCONDRA/TOLKA ROVERS or GLEBE NORTH/FINGAL ATH/TRINITY CORTHS.

ABBEY UTD (Sligo) v KILLESTER UTD (Dublin)

BELLURGAN UTD v CHERRYFIELD UTD/OLD CHURCH UTD/BLACKDITCH UTD v CARRICK UTD (Tipperary)



WEMBLEY ROVERS (Limerick)

BALDOYLE UTD (Dublin)

ST JOHN BOSCO/ST VINCENTS HOSPITAL or ERRIS UTD
BALLINA TOWN (Mayo)


Round Seven takes place February 4 & Round Eight February 25

[magpies]

Clonmel V Janesboro this is going to be a close encounter I feel Clonmel will scrap through. Cahir V Newcastle West, another tough won to call could go either way. Any predictions?

[balls]

clonmel will beat janesboro at home. not sure about cahir they are at home so should be slight favourates. think peake will beat the winners of celtic and grattan .

[pearse4t3]

Clonmel V Janesboro this is going to be a close encounter I feel Clonmel will scrap through. Cahir V Newcastle West, another tough won to call could go either way. Any predictions?

Clonmel must be a good side,they havent lost a game all season.:ball:

[Tipp Man 2]

Clonmel must be a good side,they havent lost a game all season.:ball:

clonmel were beaten in munster senior by rockmount and in tipp cup by rock rovers but still are a very good team...

anyone at the peake- michaels game yesterday.. thought it was a good game both teams went for it.. an entertaining nil nil and i think result was just about right agree? disagree?

[Van The Man]

clonmel were beaten in munster senior by rockmount and in tipp cup by rock rovers but still are a very good team...

anyone at the peake- michaels game yesterday.. thought it was a good game both teams went for it.. an entertaining nil nil and i think result was just about right agree? disagree?

Yes Town are still a very good team. Bit surprised with the result yesterday against Rock, mind you going by last years game it was always going to be "entertaining" to say the least !!! Anybody down at that game ?

Wasn't at the Peake game, but looking at the league table, Peake could have done with 3 points from that fixture. But 3 points aren't easy to get in Cooke Park. Was Chalky Walsh back from injury ? How did Peake fair out with their team, do they still have a few injuries ?

[Tipp Man 2]

Yes Town are still a very good team. Bit surprised with the result yesterday against Rock, mind you going by last years game it was always going to be "entertaining" to say the least !!! Anybody down at that game ?

Wasn't at the Peake game, but looking at the league table, Peake could have done with 3 points from that fixture. But 3 points aren't easy to get in Cooke Park. Was Chalky Walsh back from injury ? How did Peake fair out with their team, do they still have a few injuries ?

Yea chalky played first game in 3 months and dis well considering, same with ray mc mahon.. think peake were missing barry ryan and michael ryan not sure about anyone else.. as a saints supporter its a good and bad result.. bad cause 2 points dropped good because if saints beat peake they would be out of league but now peake still in it so they have something to play for when they play town.. catch 22 really... i tjhink rock played town on B team pitch which was a mud bath.. town had full squad out except aaron who is suspended.

[Tipperary_Man]

peake lost eddie o brien who pulled his hamstring during the 1st half. peake had perhaps the better chances but in saying that there were no clearcut chances. very physical game with a lot of yellow cards.

[C.T.F.C]

What a leveler a dodgy pitch can be :D . Any of the lads that competed at the ploughing championships would have been proud. That being said it was the same for both sides and in fairness Rock outbattled Town yesterday. And amazingly for the first time ever there were NO red cards. Too many of the Town players seemed to think they were still on there Christmas holidays:eek: The only real bone of contention was the refs failure to see Alan Coady blatently upended in the box when Town were 2-1 down. Ah well - swings and roundabouts. If they play like this against Janesboro next week then its adios to the FAI.

[tippsouth]

Peake were missing quite a few players through injury. Accordin to the tipp star David Duggan, Eoin O'Shea, John Lawlor, Mike Ryan, Barry Ryan and of course Eddie O'Brien were all out injured. But in fairness for a mid table side last year it has to be said they've come on a long way. May not content for much this season but i'd wonder about next year? For Munster Junior Cup Runners Up Michaels didnt really get much from them. Villa had by far the better chances even though Michaels had a full strenght squad if i'm not mistaking. Good to see Liam O'Dwyer back for Villa too. He didnt seem to let too much past him. It wasnt fair Tommy Lewis playing Villas B game at the same time as their A's while Michaels B's were allowed a morning game. Shouldnt 3 officials have been appointed for such an important clash.

[hooperlooper]

To be fair peake are a good side but i watched them against kinale down in cork and they struggled to be honest,i know they were missing a few but half the kinsale team left when the managers peter jones and ger foran left for other clubs when the season finished last season{bandon,msl and innishvilla aul respectively} so they wer'nt as strong as they used to be in previous seasons.Peake scored with the last kick of the game purely because kinsale didnt concentrate,and then penalties are a lottery as you'd well accept.Grattan are another story altogether,they lost only one league game the whole of last season,the last game of the season when the league was won at that stage by 12 points and havent lost a game this year in the league.they have played 14 cup games,fai,mjc,aoh and mossie linnane and havent been beaten over 90 ,or 120 mins in any competion,there only defeat this season was on penalties after extra time against Ballypheane Celtic,and that finished 5.4 on penalties to Ballypheane after Grattan had been 2 up after 20 mins,in fairness Ballypheane never stopped tryin and Grattans worst habbit is showboatin when they think a game is wonso it was grattan ' own fault but it turned out to be the kick up the arse that grattan have been needin for a while by all accounts,its widley regarded amoungst the aul that grattan have the best bunch of actual footballers seen for a long while in cork,so much so they have 6 on the oscar trayonr squad,5 on the first team,and theres a rumor that gerry smith has his eye on 2 or 3 for an junior call up,pa connors is wanted by city and cobh and is probably the most talented player to come out of knocknaheeney since patsy frayne, even patsy admits that,he wants him to for castleview,there back line is big and strong,midfield can be frighening at times because of there workrate and size and there is not a better front 2 pairing than jp o sullivan and john kelleher in the aul or msl,34 goals between them in all competions,so it would'nt be the wise'st thing to write them off easily...

[wilhelm2]

i would like to know when are michaels v clonmel match going to play each other this season?? in a 16 match league its a bit irish that they havn,t played yet at this strage of the season.

comments?????

[hooperlooper]

apparently,everyone outside the tsdl knows the score regarding that very fixture,except the rest of the teams in the tsdl,the league is well aware of the fact that clon and st mic's will beat just about everyone else ,so to keep the rest of you interested they keep those fixtures till the end of the season,then they play each other and once again you have clon or st mic's league winners,its like celtic and rangers,if the spl just let them play against each other for the first 4 games of the season then the league would be over by november for celtic wouldnt it,apply the same train of thought to the tsdl,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all the rest of the teams are just entertainment on a sunday

[C.T.F.C]

I have always advocated the publishing of league fixtures prior to the start of the season alas that remains in the hands of the TSDL commitee. However any side that harbours an ambition to win the league is going to have to beat Town and Michaels to do it, so when they play each other is irrelavant. The SPL comparison may be apt however there is absolutely nothing to prevent any of the leagues other clubs from emulating the Town/Michaels model for success. The key driving forces of both these clubs are not the players but the backroom commitees who continually strive to improve the clubs facilities and financial standing. These volunteers are the backbone of any successful club. It is not a coincidence that the leagues most successful clubs also possess the best facilities. Great teams will come and go- great clubs will last a lot longer.

[Tipp Man 2]

I have always advocated the publishing of league fixtures prior to the start of the season alas that remains in the hands of the TSDL commitee. However any side that harbours an ambition to win the league is going to have to beat Town and Michaels to do it, so when they play each other is irrelavant. The SPL comparison may be apt however there is absolutely nothing to prevent any of the leagues other clubs from emulating the Town/Michaels model for success. The key driving forces of both these clubs are not the players but the backroom commitees who continually strive to improve the clubs facilities and financial standing. These volunteers are the backbone of any successful club. It is not a coincidence that the leagues most successful clubs also possess the best facilities. Great teams will come and go- great clubs will last a lot longer.


CTFC some great comments and i agree with everything except for the publishing of fixtures at the start of the saeson. It would be logistically impossible to do this. For everyone else, you all seem to knock the TSDL for this and that and just about everything where in fact you should be complimenting them for a well run league that without dfail has started mid august and ended mid may as long as i know. you go to limerick dublin waterford cork just a few.. they are playing well into june because of fixture pile up ete.. give the TSDL some credit.. as for the town v saints ficture.. they were down to play on 17th december but this was then postponed because the FAI took precedence and town played crystal.. so hence going back to my point re:fixtures at start of season.. It is an ideal scenario but not feasible.

[hooperlooper]

Footballing Wise The Tsdl Is A Very Ggod League,no Question,but To Say That Just Because Your Games Are Finished In May Is A Bit Much,one Third Of The Entire Fai Junior And Nearly Half Of The Mjc Competion Teams Are From Cork Yet We Only Are Allowed The Same Allocation As Lim,tsdl And Waterford Who Have'nt Even The Same Number Of Teams If You Added Them All Up,on Average A Cork Side Wishing To Get Out Of Cork Will Have To Plat 3 Or 4 Rounds More Than Any Other County,just To Get To The Open Round

[Tipperary_Man]

Footballing Wise The Tsdl Is A Very Ggod League,no Question,but To Say That Just Because Your Games Are Finished In May Is A Bit Much,one Third Of The Entire Fai Junior And Nearly Half Of The Mjc Competion Teams Are From Cork Yet We Only Are Allowed The Same Allocation As Lim,tsdl And Waterford Who Have'nt Even The Same Number Of Teams If You Added Them All Up,on Average A Cork Side Wishing To Get Out Of Cork Will Have To Plat 3 Or 4 Rounds More Than Any Other County,just To Get To The Open Round

in Tipp South it's mainly the same teams that progress into the open draw of the FAI each year, it might make things more interesting if the draw was made open in earlier rounds, i'm not talking about the whole country but maybe teams from the same province into one section until the last 64 is reached. It would certainly give "smaller" teams a chance to play those that they would never get a chance to play. I do think that the TSDL is very good football wise but there is still not enought competition as in Waterford or Limerick for example

[hooperlooper]

finally some one who agrees that its only because the tsdl is such a small league that,thats how they are getn the results,less teams,more players 2 choose from

[tippsouth]

but thats what the fai junior cuo draw is all about. the possibility of playing a team from dingle, donegal or a local derby as in the celtic v peake game. have to say i fancy celtic to beat gratten this weekend. they've taken points off both town and villa already this season. who knows?

[Tipperary_Man]

finally some one who agrees that its only because the tsdl is such a small league that,thats how they are getn the results,less teams,more players 2 choose from

ah though in all fairness cork has a way bigger population and its also the biggest county in ireland. still there are 5 divisions in south tipp and don't forget the league in north tipp. how many different junior leagues are there in cork as a matter of interest? as in tipp we have 2, north and south

[hooperlooper]

in the CORK AUL there are 11 divisions that are all able to enter the fai or mjc cup,130 teams in total,in the MUNSTER SENIOR LEAGUE,JUNIOR SECTION there are 3 divisions of roughly 30 teams,in the CORK BUSINESS LEAGUE there are 4 divisions with again roughly 40 sides and to cap it off theWEST CORK BOTTLING LEAGUE has 3 divisions at least with about 40 teams,they are all encluded in the CORK regional draw for the fai and mjc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thats altogether,,,thats 20 different divisions,roughly 240 teams,,,,,,no other section in the country has to play through that to get to the open round,pardon me but in the stdl theres about 40 sides,and the rest of tipp another 40,thats 80,limerick say 80 and waterford 60,for the sake of it between lim,tipp and watrfd,say 220,thats between 3 entire counties,,,,,,which ever way you look at it,theres abetter chance of reaching the open round of the fai junior or the mjc if your outside of cork,that wether you like it or not is a fact and if any one would like to disagree with me belt away but you cant hide the simple truth,its there for all to see,,,,,,regarding celtic beating grattan,you could be in for a surprise,you can quote me now when i say that if celtic think Grattan are comin up to clon just for a drink and a spin on the bus'es they could well be on the roung side of a hidin ,,,and a if i was envolved with peakvilla id have a sneakin suspicion that grattan are better than kinsale and if peakvilla have to travel to cork for the next round it wont be a repeat of there last trip,,,,,,,, ,Grattan are a class side,we played um this season an we got to the last 16 of the fai last year and they have beatin us twice,the second time it was like chasin shadows there so good at holdin the ball and they break like lightening,to make matters worse there hard as nails and very fit,twas like playin bloody robots our a team manager said,,what celtic choose to make of my comments is up to them,,,,,beware the Gratts,at your own expense ???????????????????????????????

[hooperlooper]

in the CORK AUL there are 11 divisions that are all able to enter the fai or mjc cup,130 teams in total,in the MUNSTER SENIOR LEAGUE,JUNIOR SECTION there are 3 divisions of roughly 30 teams,in the CORK BUSINESS LEAGUE there are 4 divisions with again roughly 40 sides and to cap it off theWEST CORK BOTTLING LEAGUE has 3 divisions at least with about 40 teams,they are all encluded in the CORK regional draw for the fai and mjc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thats altogether,,,thats 20 different divisions,roughly 240 teams,,,,,,no other section in the country has to play through that to get to the open round,pardon me but in the stdl theres about 40 sides,and the rest of tipp another 40,thats 80,limerick say 80 and waterford 60,for the sake of it between lim,tipp and watrfd,say 220,thats between 3 entire counties,,,,,,which ever way you look at it,theres abetter chance of reaching the open round of the fai junior or the mjc if your outside of cork,that wether you like it or not is a fact and if any one would like to disagree with me belt away but you cant hide the simple truth,its there for all to see,,,,,,regarding celtic beating grattan,you could be in for a surprise,you can quote me know when i say that if celtic think Grattan are comin up to clon just for a if i was envolved with peakvilla id have a sneakin suspicion that grattan are better that kinsale and if peakvilla have to travel to cork for the next round it wont be a repeat of there last trip,,,,,,,,if celtic think Grattan are travellin up for a day out on the bus and a few pints there on the way to a hammerin,Grattan are a class side,we played um this season,we got to the last 16 of the fai last year and they have beatin us twice,the second time it was like chasin shadows there so good at holdin the ball and they break like lightening,to make matters worse there hard as nails and very fit,twas like playin bloody robots our a team manager said

[tippsouth]

the Tipperary Southern & District League, North Tipperary & District League (NTDL) and the West Waterford/EastCork League all have to compete against each other in the first three rounds before just five teams can progress to the open draw stage

[Van The Man]

in the CORK AUL there are 11 divisions that are all able to enter the fai or mjc cup,130 teams in total,in the MUNSTER SENIOR LEAGUE,JUNIOR SECTION there are 3 divisions of roughly 30 teams,in the CORK BUSINESS LEAGUE there are 4 divisions with again roughly 40 sides and to cap it off theWEST CORK BOTTLING LEAGUE has 3 divisions at least with about 40 teams,they are all encluded in the CORK regional draw for the fai and mjc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thats altogether,,,thats 20 different divisions,roughly 240 teams,,,,,,no other section in the country has to play through that to get to the open round,pardon me but in the stdl theres about 40 sides,and the rest of tipp another 40,thats 80,limerick say 80 and waterford 60,for the sake of it between lim,tipp and watrfd,say 220,thats between 3 entire counties,,,,,,which ever way you look at it,theres abetter chance of reaching the open round of the fai junior or the mjc if your outside of cork,that wether you like it or not is a fact and if any one would like to disagree with me belt away but you cant hide the simple truth,its there for all to see,,,,,,regarding celtic beating grattan,you could be in for a surprise,you can quote me now when i say that if celtic think Grattan are comin up to clon just for a drink and a spin on the bus'es they could well be on the roung side of a hidin ,,,and a if i was envolved with peakvilla id have a sneakin suspicion that grattan are better than kinsale and if peakvilla have to travel to cork for the next round it wont be a repeat of there last trip,,,,,,,, ,Grattan are a class side,we played um this season an we got to the last 16 of the fai last year and they have beatin us twice,the second time it was like chasin shadows there so good at holdin the ball and they break like lightening,to make matters worse there hard as nails and very fit,twas like playin bloody robots our a team manager said,,what celtic choose to make of my comments is up to them,,,,,beware the Gratts,at your own expense ???????????????????????????????

Hooper, you seem to have your homework done when it comes to defending how easy or not easy it is to come out of any section in the Junior Cup, Junior Cup football is never easy, some giants are slain by minnows and visa versa...it's all the fun of the fair when it comes to the Junior Cup... Between the 4 Leagues that you have, AUL, MSL, Business League & West Cork League you have 21 Divisions, 240 Teams and possibly 3,600 players approx, which as you say is a fact for all to see which I don't doubt..not to disagree with you but just curious....Those figures might frighten anybody off, but you did mention that the 240 teams COULD enter the FAI Cup.....but in fairness how many actually did ?? Possibly just 73 teams (in or around), so compare that to the TSDL and see how the % of getting to the open draw compares :confused:

[hooperlooper]

bang on van,your right not all teams in cork apply,only 81 this year,last year 157 at the time of the draw but the poorer sides have learned that if they enter the fai or mjc they will at best maybe beat another side of equal or better standard but never the less they will run into the premier junior sides at some stage an get whooped,so rather than get hammered they dont apply,the off set of that is the rest of the sides that apply are of a high standard,you get no easy games down here know matter what the round,if clonmel town had to play st mics or a team of the same standard in every round from the get go id like to see how consistant they would be by the time they get to the open /5th round.i agree the joy of the game is pitting yourself against another team for another county,but i think it should be structured differently,this is only me talkin now when i say this if they opened it at the 4th round things would be a lot more interesting for everyone, a hell of a lot more surprises and you wouldnt have the same old faces in the final 32,plus for the final 64 draw teams from the same county should have to play each other,if you reach the final 64 you should either have to travell outside your county to play or have a home game,theres nothing more annoying than gettn 2 the open round and then drawin the team from a hundred yards up the road:p

[tippsouth]

think its a little unfair clonmel town bs having to play tomorrow mornin even though the a's are playing the biggest match of their season later that day. i know its different teams but still!

[stevie11]

Its de same for every team in de TSDL when it comes to gettin free sunday's apart from St Michaels..Most teams have difficulty gettin games off apart from them,think its sumthing got to do with the secretary of the league is from tipp town and goes to all their games..Anybody agree??

[tippsouth]

couldnt agree with u any more. tommy lewis has always favoured st. michaels. when it comes to match times, referees and opposition teams michaels always seem to get it their way.

[balls]

disgraceful to be speaking about tommy lewis like that. without him league would be a lot worse off.

[wilhelm2]

think its a little unfair clonmel town bs having to play tomorrow mornin even though the a's are playing the biggest match of their season later that day. i know its different teams but still!

if clonmel town bs were given a free fixture every time their a,s were playing
there biggest match of the season, the b,s would never get their season finished. At least they got a morning kickoff and the a team were at home.
if they were away they might have a case. so whats the problem???

[Van The Man]

couldnt agree with u any more. tommy lewis has always favoured st. michaels. when it comes to match times, referees and opposition teams michaels always seem to get it their way.

You might be right, I'm not one to say but if he is so much in favour of Saints re match times, referees and opposition teams, why does he have Saints A's at 11.00am and their B's at 11.30am this Sunday ? If Lewis was so much in favour wouldn't you think he'd put the fixtures at pm and another at am ???
What really gets to me in the league is when TSDL teams are playing in the FAI or MJC (away) on a Sunday that the league decide to have the B teams play in the am, now that surely doesn't makes sense :confused:
Can anyone tell me if Peak Villa have any players on the Oscar Traynor Team ? Looking at the fixtures for the 27th/28th, I see the Oscar Traynor have a game against the Defence Forces on Sat 27th and Peak have a Tipp Cup game on Sun 28th, surely this can't be correct ???

[wilhelm2]

very surprised with cahir result on sunday
with cahir getting trashed and killester trashing borris
it doesn,t look good for peake villa who could only draw with these two teams lately ????

gratton should be favs to win at home????