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sbgawa
24/09/2024, 1:57 PM
id say the figure of 6000 is right enough tbh and im at most games so have a good feal for it, before it was called out id said 6000 ish.
100% there was around 1000 bohs fans there which considering everything is an impressive support.
Longford Town v Wexford (21st Sept) - at best 300.
nr637
25/09/2024, 12:51 PM
Cobh Ramblers v Treaty United (23rd Sept) - again at best between 3-400. Cobh's season has being going downwards for awhile now and so are the crowds.
Behind the scenes there is talk of an injection of funds from a consortium, and talk that if it is accepted by the members, a new manager would be part of the new structure?
With only two home games against Kerry and Bray to come from the final four games, the overall average attendance figure of 763 will not be greatly improved if at all!
Cobh v Treaty 557 on FAI Connect, I doubt very much, I reckon there is a lot of season ticket holders following Cobh..........not ! :confused:
Longford Town v Wexford (21st Sept) - at best 300.
287 on FAI Connect, good estimate LTFC! :ball:
2 Year Contract
25/09/2024, 4:06 PM
Pats sold out the initial allocation of 1100 for Tallaght on Friday with more due to be released today. Shels are apparently going to half the usual allocation to 500 for Mondays game there, as they did when they played Bohs at home recently also
Second batch of 300 tickets on top of the original allocation went on sale today and were also snapped up
Second batch of 300 tickets on top of the original allocation went on sale today and were also snapped up
So, officially according to '2 Year Contract', Pats will have 1,400 away fans. Let's see what the Rovers turnout will be like, I suppose another 6/7,000+
sbgawa
27/09/2024, 10:01 AM
So, officially according to '2 Year Contract', Pats will have 1,400 away fans. Let's see what the Rovers turnout will be like, I suppose another 6/7,000+
6100 were at the Bohs match , PAts bringing probably 400 extra but arent as big a draw as Bohs for some so id be thinking 6000 max.
Our attendances have been poor for the last few months (in relative terms) the lack of Friday games and breaking the habbit of going for some hasnt helped.
Will be interesting, its a huge game for us and a season decider in many ways so hopefully we get a big attendance
Kingswood Rover
27/09/2024, 12:50 PM
6100 were at the Bohs match , PAts bringing probably 400 extra but arent as big a draw as Bohs for some so id be thinking 6000 max.
Our attendances have been poor for the last few months (in relative terms) the lack of Friday games and breaking the habbit of going for some hasnt helped.
Will be interesting, its a huge game for us and a season decider in many ways so hopefully we get a big attendance
I would think it will be close to 8K this evening.
I would think it will be close to 8K this evening.
Let's hope so, I was thinking the same somewhere in the 8,000+ :rolleyes:
First attendance tonight Drog v Derry 1950
680 in Bray
3080 in Dundalk
4125 in Tolka
2357 in Waterford
460 in Kerry
546 in Limerick
joey B
27/09/2024, 9:46 PM
6839 in Tallaght
A good few of us couldn't get over the figure of 3,088 called out in Oriel Park, there were queues almost out to the main road, easily 3,500 there.
Nesta99
28/09/2024, 3:35 PM
and many who bought multiple tickets that couldnt go like myself. So 3000 people there or tickets sales. On this occasion when trying to negotiate with creditors or restructure debt undstating ticket sales might have some use. One game, first at home after the THE crisis. Will even understated attendances bigger than 3000 happen for the remainder of home games???
oriel
28/09/2024, 11:26 PM
and many who bought multiple tickets that couldnt go like myself. So 3000 people there or tickets sales. On this occasion when trying to negotiate with creditors or restructure debt undstating ticket sales might have some use. One game, first at home after the THE crisis. Will even understated attendances bigger than 3000 happen for the remainder of home games???
I bought 4 tickets, admittedly had 3 kids but still cost me €30, no big deal, I was part of the fan thing of 'leave the ST at home' and no problem with that, but def 3,500 there last night, the queuing...at 7.30, almost zig zag.
2 Year Contract
30/09/2024, 4:39 PM
An hour and a half to kickoff and shels still have home tickets on sale for the game tonight. Makes their decision to cut half the away allocation to add home capacity all the more infuriating
dundalkfc10
30/09/2024, 6:20 PM
An hour and a half to kickoff and shels still have home tickets on sale for the game tonight. Makes their decision to cut half the away allocation to add home capacity all the more infuriating
I'm watching it here with 2 work colleague's from England who are over for a seminar for the week
They asked me why Pats wouldn't have brought more fans than they have. I explained Shels have limited the number tickets and they said Shels must be loaded turning down 500 people paying in at 15/20 a ticket.
What's the reason for it anyway? Surely the away end being fully open wouldn't affect the home crowd
nigel-harps1954
30/09/2024, 7:05 PM
Really silly stuff from Shels. We cry about lack of coverage in media, but the first thing you pick out when looking at coverage tonight is a half empty stand for a huge game at the top end of the Premier Division.
It's all about optics and this just looks bad.
Another Bohemia
30/09/2024, 7:06 PM
I'm watching it here with 2 work colleague's from England who are over for a seminar for the week
They asked me why Pats wouldn't have brought more fans than they have. I explained Shels have limited the number tickets and they said Shels must be loaded turning down 500 people paying in at 15/20 a ticket.
What's the reason for it anyway? Surely the away end being fully open wouldn't affect the home crowd
From what I remember the standing area of the riverside stand being open to Shels fans meant the away fans section needed to be reduced because they would be too close to each other? How true that is I'm not sure.
brendy_éire
30/09/2024, 8:31 PM
From what I remember the standing area of the riverside stand being open to Shels fans meant the away fans section needed to be reduced because they would be too close to each other? How true that is I'm not sure.
Think it was something to do with exit routes for Shels fans, as they can't go past the away fans.
nigel-harps1954
30/09/2024, 9:22 PM
Shels v Pats - 4,382
dundalkfc10
30/09/2024, 10:20 PM
Think it was something to do with exit routes for Shels fans, as they can't go past the away fans.
What difference would it make if they're are 500 away fans or 1000, as they don't go past them on the way out anyway
It sounds to me that Duff wants less away fans in the ground, as he sees it a benefit to his side (not working out too well)
2 Year Contract
30/09/2024, 11:32 PM
From what I remember the standing area of the riverside stand being open to Shels fans meant the away fans section needed to be reduced because they would be too close to each other? How true that is I'm not sure.
It wasn’t even open for them in the end. They didn’t have enough fans there tonight to need to open it. Also empty spots in the main stand too.
Think it was something to do with exit routes for Shels fans, as they can't go past the away fans.
They opened the Ballybough exit for the home fans, beside the closed end of the away terrace. Since shels are back in the premier, the first 5 games vs pats in Tolka have had that exit closed and had a full away end, with home fans on the riverside leaving the ground at the exit closer to Drumcondra. I don’t see the reason why that had to change at all
What difference would it make if they're are 500 away fans or 1000, as they don't go past them on the way out anyway
It sounds to me that Duff wants less away fans in the ground, as he sees it a benefit to his side (not working out too well)
It looks like Shelbourne are stuck at a home average of around 4,000 even on a Monday night which is great. But being league leaders for most of the season and possibly winners, I would have expected Shels to attract bigger attendances.
They have made great improvements at Tolka Park even with all its faults. The ground always looks clean and generates a great atmosphere. While the improvements in the facilities is welcome, Shels don't seem to have attracted the extra numbers. The Riverside stand looks great in the centre with the main chorus of supporters but the improved terracing either side has not helped to attract any extra fans.
Maybe if they could get the Drumcondra End stand back up open with seats might help!
With the capacity increased, closer to 6,000, I would have expected Shels to be pushing to the 5,000+ average especially with all the local Dublin derby fixtures and Shels challenging for the league title!
Any reason why Shels struggle to attract more fans!
nigel-harps1954
01/10/2024, 10:07 AM
It looks like Shelbourne are stuck at a home average of around 4,000 even on a Monday night which is great. But being league leaders for most of the season and possibly winners, I would have expected Shels to attract bigger attendances.
They have made great improvements at Tolka Park even with all its faults. The ground always looks clean and generates a great atmosphere. While the improvements in the facilities is welcome, Shels don't seem to have attracted the extra numbers. The Riverside stand looks great in the centre with the main chorus of supporters but the improved terracing either side has not helped to attract any extra fans.
Maybe if they could get the Drumcondra End stand back up open with seats might help!
With the capacity increased, closer to 6,000, I would have expected Shels to be pushing to the 5,000+ average especially with all the local Dublin derby fixtures and Shels challenging for the league title!
Any reason why Shels struggle to attract more fans!
Are you mental? This is the highest Shels support I've seen in 25 or 30 years watching LOI. They never had support like this when they were winning titles in the 00's.
2 Year Contract
01/10/2024, 10:30 AM
Are you mental? This is the highest Shels support I've seen in 25 or 30 years watching LOI. They never had support like this when they were winning titles in the 00's.
It’s some rise on the average of just 496 people a week as recently as 2017
I'm with Nigel on this one. Looking at the trajectory of support for Pats and Bohs, Shels were a few seasons behind them but had very impressive crowds last season, and didnt suffer a second season slump after promotion that happens most promoted sides. This season that has grown again, and no doubt the season they are having has helped but wouldnt Ollie Byrne loved to have had 4000 coming to Tolka every single home game when Shels were winning titles!
21 games left in Premier I think. If we keep average as is might just pass last years 592k in premier. Would need another 82k, or close to 4k average for the 21 games, to hit the 600k at games. Would need Rovers to have at least one 8 or 9k attendance to achieve that
115k to match last years overall. Cant see that happening now with first division at best 20k over the remaining 20 games.
nigel-harps1954
01/10/2024, 11:14 AM
I'd say with a degree of certainty we're going to be down on last season.
First Division has taken a fairly sizeable dip, which can't be attributed to Galway and Waterford, as everyone else bar Treaty have suffered a dip in average attendance from 2023.
The Dublin clubs have largely kept up their high attendances, but the rest of the country have a fair bit of improving to do yet.
Derry pushing for a league title and being well below a limited capacity in a fairly large city by Irish standards, Galway pushing for Europe and only at 2.8k in one of their best seasons in decades. Others have room for improvement too, but the big rise in attendances are still largely confined to Dublin.
I think there are lessons to be learned for other clubs on what Dublin clubs have been doing and SLigo.
While at the same time, for a city of 1.3m its still a small %, 10 to 12k going to matches each week from the capital, 1% or so of population.
Derry with 100k getting 3%, Sligo do best on that metric, even taking the county at 70k or so, and just 20k in the town, so using same metric they get over 10% of population of the town going to games.
wonder88
01/10/2024, 12:06 PM
I was in Tolka last night, great ground to watch a game when it is nearly full. I was also surprised that Shels couldn't fill the terracing on the Riverside Stand and their was a good few empty seat around me in the main stand, behind the away dugout.
Couple reasons maybe: game live on tv and difficulty with parking in Drumcondra (I have been surprised how few use the bus/train to get to the ground).
Price of 21e (16e student) I felt was a bit expensive.
The re-opening of the newish Drumcondra end stand could really add to the matchday experience as been mentioned above.
Martinho II
01/10/2024, 4:32 PM
I was in Tolka last night, great ground to watch a game when it is nearly full. I was also surprised that Shels couldn't fill the terracing on the Riverside Stand and their was a good few empty seat around me in the main stand, behind the away dugout.
Couple reasons maybe: game live on tv and difficulty with parking in Drumcondra (I have been surprised how few use the bus/train to get to the ground).
Price of 21e (16e student) I felt was a bit expensive.
The re-opening of the newish Drumcondra end stand could really add to the matchday experience as been mentioned above.
When is that due to reopen Wonder88?
2 Year Contract
01/10/2024, 4:38 PM
When is that due to reopen Wonder88?
It isn’t. I believe the foundations were found to be gammy and the stand can’t support the weight of a crowd on it (though scaffolding for a TV crew on it was deemed fine last night lol). I’d imagine it’ll be costly enough to resolve
Slartibartfast
01/10/2024, 6:24 PM
In and around 1 m euro I read somewhere ...
nr637
01/10/2024, 10:30 PM
I'm with Nigel on this one. Looking at the trajectory of support for Pats and Bohs, Shels were a few seasons behind them but had very impressive crowds last season, and didnt suffer a second season slump after promotion that happens most promoted sides. This season that has grown again, and no doubt the season they are having has helped but wouldnt Ollie Byrne loved to have had 4000 coming to Tolka every single home game when Shels were winning titles!
What were Shels average attendances at Tolka during the Ollie Byrne era?
CorribsideSteve
02/10/2024, 12:00 AM
Are you mental? This is the highest Shels support I've seen in 25 or 30 years watching LOI. They never had support like this when they were winning titles in the 00's.
Exactly. Even back in the 2000's when they were riding high, they often had crowds of 1,500 or less IIRC.
EatYerGreens
02/10/2024, 12:02 AM
What were Shels average attendances at Tolka during the Ollie Byrne era?
At a guess, and relying on dodgy memory, I'd say they maxed out in the 1,500-2,000 region.
Thoiugh they reached quite a few cup finals in the 90s and 00s with attendances of 10-15,000 (obviously not all Shels).
Another Bohemia
02/10/2024, 8:04 AM
It isn’t. I believe the foundations were found to be gammy and the stand can’t support the weight of a crowd on it (though scaffolding for a TV crew on it was deemed fine last night lol). I’d imagine it’ll be costly enough to resolve
Well the thing about crowds is they aren't static. A game like Monday's would have had a huge amount of bouncing around with the amount of goals and controversial decisions. The weight of the scaffold and the few TV crew probably pales in comparison to the force of a few hundred people jumping up and down.
Is it true the Gardaí will not allow the Riverside Stand to be full to its maximum current safe capacity of about 3,000, especially at the upgraded terraced side near the Ballybough end? :confused:
Buckett
04/10/2024, 8:49 PM
4,128 in Terryland tonight
EatYerGreens
04/10/2024, 11:58 PM
4,128 in Terryland tonight
That's a great crowd. And they almost saw the Tribemen go clear in 2nd place. They're the dark horses in the current title race.
Shearer
05/10/2024, 12:16 AM
1,767 in Cork
2 Year Contract
05/10/2024, 6:57 AM
That's a great crowd. And they almost saw the Tribemen go clear in 2nd place. They're the dark horses in the current title race.
Their race is ran in terms of an unlikely title win after last nights result. All about making Europe now for them, which they still have a good chance at doing, the game against Pats and Sligo will have a huge say in which clubs make Europe
7861 in Tallaght
That's also a great crowd, for a Sunday night fixture! :ball:
sbgawa
07/10/2024, 7:21 PM
It's a good time for families on a school night. There were more people in the North Stand then there were against Appoel. The North Stand is the family Stand. I was pleasantly surprised at the attendance. Good crowd over from shels .1000 I heard
Shearer
11/10/2024, 10:06 PM
714 in Limerick
joey B
11/10/2024, 10:09 PM
1319 at Bray/Harps
2030 at RSC to see a dull, goalless draw last night.
EatYerGreens
12/10/2024, 8:56 PM
1319 at Bray/Harps
That's a good crowd for Bray?
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