Loitv

[placid casual]

A good guide to that would be the viewing figures on LOI TV of the sligo-Rovers game last Saturday night.

[TonyD]

A good guide to that would be the viewing figures on LOI TV of the sligo-Rovers game last Saturday night.

I watched the battle of the Rovers last week. Bought the season pass, mainly for the Pats away games, but I’ll probably watch a fair few other games where they don’t clash with Pats games. Agree about watching on dodgy boxes etc. If LOI tv is discontinued because of that we’ll all be the losers.

[Nesta99]

Is a "supporter" still a supporter if he/she is ripping off LOITV?
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Still a supporter but stingy, short-sighted, and quite probably doing some long-term damage to their own club and league though. Its no different than breaking into a ground to watch a game live keeping money out of the club you support.

[ontheotherhand]

Sad to hear the sales haven't been good but realistically the audience is probably tiny. Most supporters go to at least 50/60% of the home games and if they aren't going it's because they are busy with something else. So they are likely only interested in away games particularly as clubs are limiting tickets for away fans. I would have hoped that would be enough to be honest. You'd think 120 for 18 away games would be enticing. The population that is interested in watching games featuring clubs they don't support has to be miniscule. I've no interest myself in watching other games 90% of the time and LoI is really all I'm into...well I suppose Rovers are all I'm into..... I'll watch out direct competition once or twice and I'll watch highlights. As it stands it's only appealing to LoI fans and maybe a few neutrals who've been coerced.

So it's relying on people paying for it and not using it. If even a small portion of the people who ARE using it are getting it illegally its fooked. And we moaned about there being no season pass, got the season pass back and now nobody seems to be buying it! I hope they are just doing individual games?

The value for me is in being able to watch games after the fact and in being able to watch from abroad. But the big games that you'd pay 120 quid to rewatch over and over are covered on RTE and there aren't enough people abroad to carry it.

Sadly I think it's doomed to fail and will actually end up as a stick used to beat the league down whenever we go looking for a tv deal or complain to RTE about their coverage etc. It shouldn't be because a tv deal with a feature game every week at a regular time with some build up and marketing behind it would attract new fans in my view.

Or maybe numbers will pick up enough to cover the costs and keep it going. I hope so. Eventually we need a proper tv deal though and I wanted this to do well enough to justify a bit of interest.

[sbgawa]

I'll probably end up paying for all the away matches as my son will watch them all (rarely travels) and i wont travel to all matches either so season pass works out well for me. Id also watch other matches when they dont clash with Rovers (Pats Derry last Friday).
Its probably fairly marginal for most people who might watch 9 or 10 away matches for their own club at a cost of €70 ,, for the extra 50 i think its worth the convenience of having the pass as you end up watching matches you wouldnt have paid to watch individulaly...plus you are supporting the service

[legendz]

for the extra 50 i think its worth the convenience of having the pass as you end up watching matches you wouldnt have paid to watch individulaly...plus you are supporting the serviceThis goes back to my point about having a "star game" of the weekend at a different time. The season pass is then attractive if the average supporters plan is to watch 10-12 away games and watch the league's finest silver as well.

[Yossarian]

The value of the season pass is very good if you are going to watch a minimum of a game every other week or if you just like watching the games on TV but I’d say that market is tiny.
I personally haven’t got it as I will be at every home game and almost every away game and if I miss a game it will be because I’ve something else on so wouldn’t see it anyway. I’ll pay for the very odd game I miss and with all games bar Sligo’s home games on at the same time it doesn’t really benefit people who aren’t able to watch other teams as they are at their own teams games.
The only way to possibly increase viewership is having staggered kick offs over a weekend but that’s a whole other discussion.

[pineapple stu]

Still a supporter but stingy, short-sighted, and quite probably doing some long-term damage to their own club and league though. Its no different than breaking into a ground to watch a game live keeping money out of the club you support.
And on that note, I see Dundalk giving out about effectively that same thing - adults buying U12 tickets online for a game (https://www.dundalkfc.com/club-update-antisocial-behaviour-juvenile-tickets/).

Seems there's *****s there, whether online or in real life. Though I guess it's always easier to justify online theft.

[thebronze14]

I bought it and the moment I did I realised I defo wouldn't get the value from it but sure so be it

[Nesta99]

And on that note, I see Dundalk giving out about effectively that same thing - adults buying U12 tickets online for a game (https://www.dundalkfc.com/club-update-antisocial-behaviour-juvenile-tickets/).

Seems there's *****s there, whether online or in real life. Though I guess it's always easier to justify online theft.

Sadly nothing new in that statement. If some adults got in on juvenile tickets (juvenile defined as being u12 rather than a level of maturity) if I, and probably and plenty of others, were to take a walk through The Shed side Id be pretty sure that a number of the culprits could be pointed out! It is not nice to hear about volunteers getting abuse for doing their delegated tasks - back to the whole private/professional security needs discussion.

[sbgawa]

Sadly nothing new in that statement. If some adults got in on juvenile tickets (juvenile defined as being u12 rather than a level of maturity) if I, and probably and plenty of others, were to take a walk through The Shed side Id be pretty sure that a number of the culprits could be pointed out! It is not nice to hear about volunteers getting abuse for doing their delegated tasks - back to the whole private/professional security needs discussion.

Rovers changed their "Kids" tickets from 14s to 12s this year for the same reason . 18-20 year olds trying to get in on under 14 tickets.....Supporters????

[legendz]

With all games played on a Friday night like last night, there is no Saturday night game for those with a season pass, or those who might pay 7 euro for a high profile game. If clubs want to build a product that attracts TV revenue, they might have to be willing to invest in some staggered kick offs. Otherwise things will stay as they are.

[Burnsie]

no sign of the First Division games on the FAI youtube channel this week? I wonder if that was just a one-off to start the season. (The PD games were all uploaded Friday evening/Saturday morning)

[legendz]

From the first weekend it seems the Premier Division highlights will be made available early. First Division goals will probably appear today or tomorrow.

[pineapple stu]

UCD's commentators have gone viral - 250k views so far for this from Friday, picked up by an SPL media account

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[legendz]

UCD's commentators have gone viral - 250k views so far for this from Friday, picked up by an SPL media account

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I was watching the highlights of tha game last night. Enjoyed that commentary!

[sbgawa]

It was outside the shaggin box ;)

[Burnsie]

no sign of the First Division games on the FAI youtube channel this week? I wonder if that was just a one-off to start the season. (The PD games were all uploaded Friday evening/Saturday morning)

I was wrong about this - the first division matches were all uploaded this morning, which is good

[legendz]

I was wrong about this - the first division matches were all uploaded this morning, which is good
It seems the First Division goals will always be made available but we'll be made to wait!

[outspoken]

I was wrong about this - the first division matches were all uploaded this morning, which is good

Very little effort in the highlights compared to PD tho, generally just the goals, although as I keep saying some of the FD streams are barely watchable so in that case it's understandable.

[SPXcyan]

The likes of ourselves and Galway should be using a proper cameraman and not that horrific AI ******! the quality of highlights from Wexford and Athlone are vastly superior f or instance.

[joey B]

Athlone and Longford put on excellent productions,put most other clubs in the league to shame......

[cláirseach]

Yes, I quite enjoyed Athlone's coverage last week. The Harps stream on the opening day was embarassing and unwatchable. Pixellot streams are a hard slog at the best of times but the camera angle and lack of commentary (a technical issue by all accounts) did not help matters.

[outspoken]

The likes of ourselves and Galway should be using a proper cameraman and not that horrific AI ******! the quality of highlights from Wexford and Athlone are vastly superior f or instance.

I'm constantly saying this, how on earth can clubs like Longford and Athlone put on vastly superior products to clubs like Galway and Waterford, clubs that are full time and are in cities with any amount of access to talented young students etc. It's pure and utter laziness

[nigel-harps1954]

Yes, I quite enjoyed Athlone's coverage last week. The Harps stream on the opening day was embarassing and unwatchable. Pixellot streams are a hard slog at the best of times but the camera angle and lack of commentary (a technical issue by all accounts) did not help matters.

Pixellot is a nightmare, but it's better than nothing at all. Clubs like Waterford and Galway with big resources have no excuse for using it over paying for streaming, but Harps just don't have the money to pay a company to do it. Fair play to the likes of Longford doing it on a voluntary basis, but difficult for everyone to do it that way.

[outspoken]

Pixellot is a nightmare, but it's better than nothing at all. Clubs like Waterford and Galway with big resources have no excuse for using it over paying for streaming, but Harps just don't have the money to pay a company to do it. Fair play to the likes of Longford doing it on a voluntary basis, but difficult for everyone to do it that way.

Surely a county the size of Donegal the club should be able to find a few students or something? Plenty of money for all these new signing ?

[nigel-harps1954]

Surely a county the size of Donegal the club should be able to find a few students or something? Plenty of money for all these new signing ?

Students were approached, ATU Donegal was approached.

There's f*ck all money for signings too. We have no money after it was all p!ssed away last year.

Actual playing budget is a third of what it was last year. Total budget including playing/coaching and all associated extras is less than half of last year's budget.

Heard similar misconceptions around Athlone last Friday night that we're a big budget full time side. Could only laugh.

[outspoken]

Students were approached, ATU Donegal was approached.

There's f*ck all money for signings too. We have no money after it was all p!ssed away last year.

Actual playing budget is a third of what it was last year. Total budget including playing/coaching and all associated extras is less than half of last year's budget.

Heard similar misconceptions around Athlone last Friday night that we're a big budget full time side. Could only laugh.

The winky face didn't display lol

[nigel-harps1954]

The winky face didn't display lol

You don't have to display winky faces when you're being serious. lol.

[outspoken]

You don't have to display winky faces when you're being serious. lol.

I was referring to my post. lol

[Burnsie]

great to have some variation in the kick-off times tonigiht so that us die-hards are getting slightly better value for money

[Burnsie]

... and the Bohs v Shels game still hasn't kicked off...

[Martinho II]

... and the Bohs v Shels game still hasn't kicked off...

What happened Burnsie?

[Burnsie]

Looked like the guards had to weigh into the stand and separate Bohs and Shels fans, presumably. Probably inevitable given the issues with ticket sales during the week

[legendz]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUSYExIphebYTRuSLI9AQKvBNEGiejfeA

The Premier Division highlights as always are available in good time on FAITV. I'm probably in the minority in favour of a highlights programme but I am enjoying being able to watch the highlights on the Chromecast, one after the other on the playlist. I watched the highlights this afternoon and then watched the F1 qualifying highlights on YouTube as well. It must be just the modern day platform.
It's a pity they couldn't make more of an effort with the First Division highlights. Especially as it's been Sunday or Monday that the goals have been made available.

[El-Pietro]

I was really impressed with the picture quality of our games highlights. Hope that standard will be maintained going forward. Makes me feel a lot more comfortable sharing them with non LOI people

[nigel-harps1954]

The difference with first division and premier division highlight is that the FAI staff have to clip together the First Division highlights themselves, while the company who operate the Premier Division streams do the highlights package themselves post match and send on to the FAI.

[legendz]

LoI Central were talking about the importance of television coverage to attract sponsors. If LOITV is to build an audience, they will need a regular kick off time for the standout game e.g. Derry v Dundalk.
Monday evening fixtures are part of the current schedule and established as the second day. Possibly Monday evening is the solution. There will only be the occasional clash with a full round.
If the top 4 from last year always played as a standalone game, that's 24 games to spread out across the season.

[outspoken]

LoI Central were talking about the importance of television coverage to attract sponsors. If LOITV is to build an audience, they will need a regular kick off time for the standout game e.g. Derry v Dundalk.
Monday evening fixtures are part of the current schedule and established as the second day. Possibly Monday evening is the solution. There will only be the occasional clash with a full round.
If the top 4 from last year always played as a standalone game, that's 24 games to spread out across the season.

There's something I never thought about actually, did the FAI go after a main sponsor for LOITV? I know the pet company sponsored the highlights show and may have been associate sponsors of loi tv but you'd think they'd try to get a big fish in, then again, viewing figures probably not overly enticing.

[Another Bohemia]

LoI Central were talking about the importance of television coverage to attract sponsors. If LOITV is to build an audience, they will need a regular kick off time for the standout game e.g. Derry v Dundalk.
Monday evening fixtures are part of the current schedule and established as the second day. Possibly Monday evening is the solution. There will only be the occasional clash with a full round.
If the top 4 from last year always played as a standalone game, that's 24 games to spread out across the season.

I think you might run into problems with Monday fixtures for teams that are in Europe and there's a good chance that the games people will want to watch would contain one or more of the European competitors! I'd be a fan of having a match of the week and having it on Saturday at lunch time. I know this time of the year you're competing with the premier league for viewers but during the summer there is that gap where people will want to watch sport of some kind and having the game of the week there makes it an option. Could also consider making the game of the week cheaper or available to pubs & clubs for free as they will also want content that they can have on the screens and only so many people want to watch horse racing.

[culloty82]

Must say that Galway's commentary team and picture feed were excellent yesterday.

[yurt]

It was the first time I remember that GUFC have moved away from the pixellot. Well overdue at this stage but glad it's finally happened.

It was actually father and son on comm and co comms Friday night. It could be the Galway bias in me but I find that they are probably the best/most professional commentary team in the first division.

[legendz]

It was the first time I remember that GUFC have moved away from the pixellot. Well overdue at this stage but glad it's finally happened.

It was actually father and son on comm and co comms Friday night. It could be the Galway bias in me but I find that they are probably the best/most professional commentary team in the first division.
The commentary was good and respectful. All away commentators so far understand that Kerry are only starting off and that they have a lot to learn, which they will through experience.

[nigel-harps1954]

Harps had one home and one away commentator on Friday night. Think it's definitely the way forward if clubs can manage it. Provides no bias and even for both teams.

[Nesta99]

On the whole LoITV in pubs, a season pass must be bought, so great value. Unfortunately, found out this w/e that dodgy streams are mostly whats used. In high 3 figures the number of pubs in Ireland using this one stream. If it is to broaden appeal its working as the demand seems to be there with plenty of Punters in for the match. Seems its similar for EPL et al mind! Small consolation I suppose.

[bohsmug]

On the whole LoITV in pubs, a season pass must be bought, so great value. Unfortunately, found out this w/e that dodgy streams are mostly whats used. In high 3 figures the number of pubs in Ireland using this one stream. If it is to broaden appeal its working as the demand seems to be there with plenty of Punters in for the match. Seems its similar for EPL et al mind! Small consolation I suppose.

Yeah getting on the same platform that a lot of people are watching their football on has helped interest IMO, in a league that typically struggles for exposure. Just have to hope that there's enough subs to pay for the service itself. So the drive to get people to buy into it and pay subs is worthwhile. I get texts from people on match night who are clearly watching the illegal streams, people who wouldn't normally watch LOI. It's a brilliant service. I really love it.

There's a possibility that some of the pubs who use their dodgy IPTV to stream games have paid their subscription. Not sure how likely but certainly some individuals with iptv subs who have paid for LOITV out of courtesy will still regularly use their iptv to watch LOI games.

[outspoken]

Harps had one home and one away commentator on Friday night. Think it's definitely the way forward if clubs can manage it. Provides no bias and even for both teams.

I've said this on our show, I did away comms in final game of 2021 season in harps and it was brilliant.

[legendz]

I watched Drogheda v Dundalk last night. Wexford v Kerry earlier. Derry v Sligo is live on RTÉ. It's a pity more weekends can't have staggered kick offs.

[Kiki Balboa]

I watched Drogheda v Dundalk last night. Wexford v Kerry earlier. Derry v Sligo is live on RTÉ. It's a pity more weekends can't have staggered kick offs.

Thought the exact same. Had a very enjoyable two days with all the LOI. Would be great for it to happen a few more weekends. LOITV is such a brilliant resource.

[joey B]

https://twitter.com/KerryFC/status/1662045500537729024


Kerry ditching the pixelot cameras already……