Loitv

[nigel-harps1954]

Must be the only league in the world where the clubs pay for their TV coverage.

A sponsor to cover a broadcast deal would need to be well up on the list of priorities going into 2022 season.

[SeanDrog]

Aertel had it's moments all the same. I remember having it on screen at home waiting for the full time from Kilkenny, Harps 2-0 down and an hour after the game was it hasn't gone final to put us out of our misery.

Suddenly it updates and Harps have won 3-2.

F**king magic.

We were on the opposite end - away to Waterford - think it was a draw after 90mins (or we were one up) went to bed happy and reposed next day to see Waterford had put 7 past us :)

[SkStu]

Aertel had it's moments all the same. I remember having it on screen at home waiting for the full time from Kilkenny, Harps 2-0 down and an hour after the game was it hasn't gone final to put us out of our misery.

Suddenly it updates and Harps have won 3-2.

F**king magic.

reminds me of a similar game - Monday or Tuesday night in 2001 - Bohs away to Finn Harps in i think the last series of games in the season... 1-0 til well after the full time whistle should have been blown but Aertel still not saying FT. Then BOOM! Harps 1 - Bohs 1 FT :D Might have been Nesovic that got our equalizer but cant be sure. I celebrated it in my apartment like we had won the league :D

[Neish]

Aertel had it's moments all the same. I remember having it on screen at home waiting for the full time from Kilkenny, Harps 2-0 down and an hour after the game was it hasn't gone final to put us out of our misery.

Suddenly it updates and Harps have won 3-2.

F**king magic.

Yeah i thin it was Shels were playing one time, they went 1 up early on and the score never changed on Aertel. I was in a bad mood all that night and it wasn't until to following day when i ran into one of the lads in town that i found out we won 2-1, as far as I remember we had equalized withing 5 min of the Shels goal then went 2-1 up shortly after half time

[joey B]

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/loitv-set-to-return-for-the-2022-season-/id-4052

Season pass option has been removed for this season,gone down pretty badly if Daniel McDonnell’s quote tweets are anything to go by.

7 euro per game in the Premier Division and 5 for the First Division,most people won’t be watching other teams as you’ve been able to do in previous years…..

[kksaints]

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/loitv-set-to-return-for-the-2022-season-/id-4052

Season pass option has been removed for this season,gone down pretty badly if Daniel McDonnell’s quote tweets are anything to go by.

7 euro per game in the Premier Division and 5 for the First Division,most people won’t be watching other teams as you’ve been able to do in previous years…..

Lack of a season pass is a poor idea.

[Calcio Jack]

Lack of a season pass is a poor idea.

Very disappointing that no season ticket option available; also if you have a season ticket for your own club then you should have free LoiTv access to their home games so that if away or ill etc. you can still watch the games ; and also in case your club is playing behind ‘closed doors’

[pineapple stu]

Even for convenience alone it's surely worth it?

[D24Saint]

Strange move not having a subscription option. I intend to make as many Pats games as possible this year but would have got a season pass for LOI tv to support the service. There is little incentive to pay for individual games between other clubs.

[Kiki Balboa]

Cant understand it at all. One of the worst decisions the league has made. It will be around 250 euro to only watch my teams games for a season. Genuinely, LOI might be the most expensive league in the world to stream.

There is already near saturation of football on tv and online, and everyone watches other leagues. You could spend all weekend watching big name football teams for half the price.

Be happy to spend a 100 and something euro at the start of the season and forget about it, but now, every week being asked? Not a chance.

[sbgawa]

Very disappointing that no season ticket option available; also if you have a season ticket for your own club then you should have free LoiTv access to their home games so that if away or ill etc. you can still watch the games ; and also in case your club is playing behind ‘closed doors’

Someone has to pay for the production and very few people paid last year because most of the core LOI support got free passes in lieu of season tickets.
If they gave away LOI ST to club STH they would lose a fortune and the pandemic is over so people can make choices now.
Id say they are hoping that the loyalists (STH) who dont travel away will pay for individual passes for those games.
I know if i am not traveling i would be happy to pay the €7 as its less than the petrol money let alone "other expenses :) "
Also i think this year if enough people dont pay to cover the costs we can forget about it next year and its great to be able to "follow" your team even when you cant make it.

[sidewayspasser]

Lack of a season pass is a poor idea.
Very disappointing indeed. Are they deliberately setting it up for failure?

[Kiki Balboa]

Someone has to pay for the production and very few people paid last year because most of the core LOI support got free passes in lieu of season tickets.
If they gave away LOI ST to club STH they would lose a fortune and the pandemic is over so people can make choices now.
Id say they are hoping that the loyalists (STH) who dont travel away will pay for individual passes for those games.
I know if i am not traveling i would be happy to pay the €7 as its less than the petrol money let alone "other expenses :) "
Also i think this year if enough people dont pay to cover the costs we can forget about it next year and its great to be able to "follow" your team even when you cant make it.

But this is it, it is a terrible way for people to cover the cost of it. It is overpriced and bad service (having to pay every time to watch). I would now be surprised if you get more than 10 people to spend over a 100 euro on this.

(Plus all the big games are normally on RTE..)

[placid casual]

That's a money issue by the looks of it, by very liable to backfire.
Since most clubs have season ticket holders and thus had automatic access to all their teams games, I'd assume the amount of one off purchases each week was minimal, but perhaps I'm wrong.
Are they hoping we will buy a pass each week we can't attend our teams games in person? f*** that. Destined to fail, imo.
This will be the last season of loitv I reckon, which is a shame as I watched a fair few games not involving Rovers, so got a better understanding of the quality of other teams

[total hoofball]

It's like they are pricing it too high for PD games and removing season pass in order to deter people from the service to push LOI fans to go the games and purchase season tickets

LOITV will realistically only work a price point for €5 per match and a season pass offering of max €150. I can't see it lasting past this season

[Bunny Kelly]

Brutal decision not having a season pass as it was a way of getting as much LOI football out there.

It's like they totally miss the point of live football thinking it will drastically hurt attendances, you go to LOI matches for the experience of being at live sport (in all its glory). If you are truly competing with a football product on TV then there are much better options available on a Friday night.

LOITV won't survive off domestic fans at these rates but maybe they can get enough off football analysis/betting sites to make it viable?

[mcgonigle]

This is good though

https://twitter.com/SSEAirtricityLg/status/1486292837989851138?s=20

[brendy_éire]

No real issue with per-match cost, but it's silly not having a package option, even for €225 or so. What was one purchase decision per year, becomes 36. If you have a home ST, that's immediately down to 18 purchase opportunities. And 18 times you have to justify a spend.
A club away package would have been an idea too, priced accordingly.
And if we accept that the numbers watching clubs other than their own are minimal, then there's not much to lose by tacking on the other games to your club package, say for an extra €30.

Personally, I'd have paid €250-270 for an all-club pass, even though I'd watch less than 36 games. You're paying for the convenience and option.
As it is, I'll be at the majority of Derry matches, so I'll only be buying a handful of passes this year. Will I justify a €7 spend on a random LoI match on the rare occasions when Derry aren't playing at the same time? Unlikely.

[sbgawa]

No real issue with per-match cost, but it's silly not having a package option, even for €225 or so. What was one purchase decision per year, becomes 36. If you have a home ST, that's immediately down to 18 purchase opportunities. And 18 times you have to justify a spend.
A club away package would have been an idea too, priced accordingly.
And if we accept that the numbers watching clubs other than their own are minimal, then there's not much to lose by tacking on the other games to your club package, say for an extra €30.

Personally, I'd have paid €250-270 for an all-club pass, even though I'd watch less than 36 games. You're paying for the convenience and option.
As it is, I'll be at the majority of Derry matches, so I'll only be buying a handful of passes this year. Will I justify a €7 spend on a random LoI match on the rare occasions when Derry aren't playing at the same time? Unlikely.

This would have been a good idea and at €99 (5.55 per game) lots of people would have bought it, also tacking on other games for a fixed amount as a bonus is another excellent idea.

[SeanDrog]

I watched many non Drogs games last season with the pass but prob won’t do it on a pay per game basis , shame really but at least we still have Loi tv as I was afraid they would cease it. The 7e is ok for a match and they do need to make money but I’d say the lack of. A season pass gives them the option to cease mid season if numbers are low - a season pass locks them in to a degree for the full season.

[Kiki Balboa]

I watched many non Drogs games last season with the pass but prob won’t do it on a pay per game basis , shame really but at least we still have Loi tv as I was afraid they would cease it. The 7e is ok for a match and they do need to make money but I’d say the lack of. A season pass gives them the option to cease mid season if numbers are low - a season pass locks them in to a degree for the full season.

This is the worst way to make money from it. Is there any league outside of Ireland that operates on ppv style for each single game? Any streaming service at all? Streaming has been around for sometime now and there is a reason why nearly everything is subscription based. I would love to see he numbers of last years LOITV for single game buyers.

And as for the cost... it is very much overpriced.. It is hard to see anybody that is not fully committed in the league to pay 7 euro more than a handful of times. Higher price doesnt equal more profit if nobody buys the damn thing.

On the second part, then what is the point of doing it at all? If you cannot even plan to see it through for a full season, then its already dead. Just cancel it then and let the clubs run it themselves if they want and have the capacity. You now wasted an off-season for teams to try to get something into place if LOITV disappears after a round of games

I just can't get my head around how shambolic it is. They couldn't do things worse if they tried.

[2 Year Contract]

It appears to me that they’ve given up hope of attracting new viewers to watch LOITV and are instead cashing in on the fanaticism of LOI fans. Based on the way they’ve priced it, it looks as though they’ve had a look at the viewing data from last year's figures and come to the conclusion that people watching games religiously were the fans of the two clubs involved in that game. The pricing appears to take advantage of the fact that 'anyone that’s willing to pay to watch a LOI match at all will be willing to pay €7 for each individual game because they all appear to be mad enough to justify paying €252 a year because they won’t want to miss a game'. Not a view I agree with because it majorly stings fans living abroad and leaves a very small amount of outsiders willing to pay to watch a league they haven’t watched before.

If this wasn’t the case then I’m sure they’d have been able to sell an ‘away game season pass’ for 1 particular club or a season pass for all 36 games of just 1 club

[Straightstory]

Terrible decision which will backfire big time.

[Buller]

Very happy its back! Didn't think clubs would want to keep it up this year with it potentially impacting actual crowds, but this pricing is obviously a compromise. I'm overseas for the first 2 months of the season and now won't miss a game. Best 7 euro I'll ever spend on a Friday night

[Straightstory]

I'm very pleased it's back too - but disappointed there aren't more options than pay-per-game.

[joey B]

I suppose you could say we’re lucky to get anything back,the GAA aren’t bringing back their GAA GO service apparently…

[Nesta99]

Attendances are well up for non championship games, maybe that had some influence on the decision. Louth GAA really dont like when a game is covered for as rare as that is. The novelty will wear off too and there is an expat following so it'd be interesting to know the thinking.

[osarusan]

"With the announcement of the ending of restrictions in Ireland, we're now looking forward to seeing full League of Ireland stadiums and supporters to return to watching live football. As a result, matches will only be available through a single match pass in order to facilitate fans who cannot attend any matches as well as fans living overseas."



Very disappointing, and the reasoning isn't even logical. A single match pass doesn't facilitate the fans mentioned any better than a season pass.

I don't see how it makes them any more money either.

Did clubs have some input into the lack of a season pass? Is it something they'd want to avoid?

[Stuttgart88]

Lack of a season pass is a mistake. No thought given to overseas subscribers like me either.

[joey B]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SligoChampion/status/1491148412896481280

Interesting Sligo made a profit of 32k on Watchloi,this figure would vary widely for each club I’d say….

[TonyD]

Does anyone know can you get LOItv on to your tv with a Roku stick, (there doesn’t seem to be an option to cast it ?). Fed up watching it on an iPad. My tv is a smart tv, but it doesn’t have a browser.

[ontheotherhand]

Does anyone know can you get LOItv on to your tv with a Roku stick, (there doesn’t seem to be an option to cast it ?). Fed up watching it on an iPad. My tv is a smart tv, but it doesn’t have a browser.

I use a Chromecast. Not sure if the Roku works similarly but with the Chromecast it's very easy. Just plug it in, set it up once and then you'll see a little cast icon on the game screen on mobile or laptop that will send it to the tv. Just need your device and Chromecast on the same wifi.

[SPXcyan]

This preview show is a welcomed surprise, although it looks very veryyyy basic.. hello from Kaunas lads!

[SeanDrog]

Does anyone know can you get LOItv on to your tv with a Roku stick, (there doesn’t seem to be an option to cast it ?). Fed up watching it on an iPad. My tv is a smart tv, but it doesn’t have a browser.

You can airplay from your iPad to the tv

[TonyD]

You can airplay from your iPad to the tv

That just worked for me on YouTube, to a Roku stick. Cheers. My problem was I could never see a cast or airplay symbol on LOI tv. Will give it a try.

[Kiki Balboa]

Website looks very well to be fair.

[joey B]

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/a-new-weekly-highlights-show-the-loi-show/id-4077

New highlights show on LOITV every Monday…

[D24Saint]

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/a-new-weekly-highlights-show-the-loi-show/id-4077

New highlights show on LOITV every Monday…

That's great news. A highlight show online makes perfect sense. They will have more freedom than on RTE.

[Martinho II]

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/a-new-weekly-highlights-show-the-loi-show/id-4077

New highlights show on LOITV every Monday…

Wonder will this be on youtube I wonder? Highly doubt it as didnt sign for it at all!

[joey B]

Wonder will this be on youtube I wonder? Highly doubt it as didnt sign for it at all!

Think its just on LOITV,its free just with a login....

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Really enjoyed the highlights show

[SPXcyan]

30 minute coverage of Dundalk v Derry, not bad at all, happy enough with it overall.

[Nesta99]

Yeah I enjoyed that highlights show. Obviously with games off they had to do some filling with more chat on games that were play, but wasnt laboured. Needs some polish which I think will come. To nitpick the host was a little wooden during links probably reading from an autocue, but then relaxed in to it. I think the studio could be a little less budget without breaking a budget - throw in a coffee table lol. It had a fans done magazine show feel which is not a bad thing if tightened up eg slight audio sync issues.

Overall as an opening weekend it wasnt too long ago that we'd have been dreaming of a packed Tolka, 5k at a UCD game, whatever crowd that was in Oriel it looked well attended. Some quality moments in football terms and in difficult conditions. Generally entertaining which is what its about if not always for the purists. UCD and Shels were not as far off opposition as the scorelines suggested. If we can look maintain and chunk this post pandemic surge in interest and attendances it would be super, a real opportunity for the league to push on, showcase to sponsors etc. Crowds do an awful lot to cover the shortcomings in facilities so if we could just get a few more in to Tallaght we'd be laughing!

[Martinho II]

Yeah I enjoyed that highlights show. Obviously with games off they had to do some filling with more chat on games that were play, but wasnt laboured. Needs some polish which I think will come. To nitpick the host was a little wooden during links probably reading from an autocue, but then relaxed in to it. I think the studio could be a little less budget without breaking a budget - throw in a coffee table lol. It had a fans done magazine show feel which is not a bad thing if tightened up eg slight audio sync issues.

Overall as an opening weekend it wasnt too long ago that we'd have been dreaming of a packed Tolka, 5k at a UCD game, whatever crowd that was in Oriel it looked well attended. Some quality moments in football terms and in difficult conditions. Generally entertaining which is what its about if not always for the purists. UCD and Shels were not as far off opposition as the scorelines suggested. If we can look maintain and chunk this post pandemic surge in interest and attendances it would be super, a real opportunity for the league to push on, showcase to sponsors etc. Crowds do an awful lot to cover the shortcomings in facilities so if we could just get a few more in to Tallaght we'd be laughing!

I signed up to free version of LOI TV but unable to watch it at that time. Has anyone any links to it by any chance as I would love to hear it!

[joey B]

I signed up to free version of LOI TV but unable to watch it at that time. Has anyone any links to it by any chance as I would love to hear it!

It’s on the website on demand,just log in and you can watch it…..

[sidewayspasser]

Not bad overall, I thought. The studio looked a bit like it's been done on a shoestring budget (which it probably is), but other than that I thought it was a decent start. Happy to see that the FD is also covered.

[trevy]

How long is the highlights programme? I haven't got around to watching last weeks one so might as well wait till next week after tonight's games to start.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

90 minutes or so this week

[DCSIL]

Half time they're showing the goals from all the games, impressive

[Bunny Kelly]

Any word on how this has gone for clubs? Any hope of season passes returning for 2nd half of the season?