England V Republic of Ireland - Thursday, 12th November 2020 - Friendly

[Bielsa´s irish]

I'm getting really confused at you replying to yourself now.

it was a follow up to complete my statement, buddy

[Charlie Darwin]

Some spanish speaking ignorants think Celtic F.Cis in an irish club in Ireland. There is a colorful anecdote from Messi the first time he played against Celtic he thought he was travelling to Ireland, and was shocked when he realized he was going to Scotland.
Do you have a link to this story?

[tetsujin1979]

it was a follow up to complete my statement, buddy

That's what the edit button is for.

[paul_oshea]

See it's confirmed

[nigel-harps1954]

Amazing... friendly against England just announced for Thursday 12th November.

[Paddy Garcia]

National humiliation

[paul_oshea]

Wouldn't it make sense to base the team in the UK for this set of matches?

Maybe just do a week of 11 v 11 up at St George's a v b then the real thing happens in wembley :D

[paul_oshea]

National humiliation

I'm interested to see the side play against an organised team how they will defend against a fast counter attacking team. If they come out of this game having not conceded its progress.

[Stuttgart88]

ah balls!

[Stuttgart88]

We can only hope Pickford is in goals!

[paul_oshea]

And injure Duffy?

[tetsujin1979]

Friendly at Wembley confirmed for November 12th: https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/international-friendly-against-england-announced

[Diggs246]

I wonder will it be a classic like the last time in Dublin

[eekers]

I'm genuinely fuming about this.
What was the point of the last two games if not to try to increase our ranking points.
The Europa League gets us nothing in the world cup cycle.


Does no one in the FAI understand how the world ranking ELO system works?
Of course they don't.
An absolute joke.

[seanfhear]

I'm genuinely fuming about this.
What was the point of the last two games if not to try to increase our ranking points.
The Europa League gets us nothing in the world cup cycle.


Does no one in the FAI understand how the world ranking ELO system works?
Of course they don't.
An absolute joke.A Fistfull of Euros in the Hand is more important than the future ! !

[Fixer82]

I'm genuinely fuming about this.
What was the point of the last two games if not to try to increase our ranking points.
The Europa League gets us nothing in the world cup cycle.


Does no one in the FAI understand how the world ranking ELO system works?
Of course they don't.
An absolute joke.

Or...it's a stern test and another opportunity for Stephen Kenny to get his gameplan into the heads of the players before competitive games.

[seanfhear]

Could Rice and Grealish make guest appearances for us ~ ~ A possible New Angle for FIFA. Was it Di Stefano or Puskas that played for three Countries ?

[zero]

I'm genuinely fuming about this.
What was the point of the last two games if not to try to increase our ranking points.
The Europa League gets us nothing in the world cup cycle.


Does no one in the FAI understand how the world ranking ELO system works?
Of course they don't.
An absolute joke.

I've long suspected that nobody at the FAI follows the rankings / tries to work them out until they are released.

[Bungle]

While it obviously makes more sense that we are in pot 2 than pot 3, right now we would be vying with a team like the Czech Republic or Norway to get into a playoff and then beat someone like the Ukraine or Switzerland in said playoff to qualify if we are a pot 2 side.

We haven't a prayer of qualifying for the world cup right now unless the likes of Parrott etc turn in to really top players two years faster than I think they will.

In that sense, getting experience of playing a top team is far better than grabbing the rosary beads that NI and Slovakia draw and we take 4/6 points from our next nations league games. Stephen will have had a lot of games before the qualifiers so no excuses imo not to begin seeing improvements by the time of wc qualifiers and that we can't give a decent account of ourselves and be ready for euro 2024 regardless of what group we get. We need to build a team here and that will take time rather than go with the short term approach. The Belgians did it for a few years. They had a better generation than we are likely to have but they got the structures right and gave up a few tournaments to do that and they have always been a very good footballing nation. Kenny has them trying to play football and is bringing through the youngsters. I couldn't really ask anymore at this point.

I'm a positive person for the future and we have a cracking bunch of talents coming through with some great lads at the even younger age groups but if the likes of Finland are beating you home and away, then it's hard to see us getting to Qatar or being remotely close.

[Bielsa´s irish]

Ireland were first football team to beat England on home soil
Ireland has always been a piece of corn stuck in the 3 lions teeth.

It's been 35 years since England defeated the irish, I remembered the game was broadcasted live in Argentina because of our big irish community, played Eamonn okeefesomething up front, played Liam Brady, he scored a goal. Frank Stapleton was soo good that game but got kicked the whole game. I think Kevin Ocallahan played a bit a remember he was a classy player. He worked with Stallone in a movie

[Bielsa´s irish]

While it obviously makes more sense that we are in pot 2 than pot 3, right now we would be vying with a team like the Czech Republic or Norway to get into a playoff and then beat someone like the Ukraine or Switzerland in said playoff to qualify if we are a pot 2 side.

We haven't a prayer of qualifying for the world cup right now unless the likes of Parrott etc turn in to really top players two years faster than I think they will.

In that sense, getting experience of playing a top team is far better than grabbing the rosary beads that NI and Slovakia draw and we take 4/6 points from our next nations league games. Stephen will have had a lot of games before the qualifiers so no excuses imo not to begin seeing improvements by the time of wc qualifiers and that we can't give a decent account of ourselves and be ready for euro 2024 regardless of what group we get. We need to build a team here and that will take time rather than go with the short term approach. The Belgians did it for a few years. They had a better generation than we are likely to have but they got the structures right and gave up a few tournaments to do that and they have always been a very good footballing nation. Kenny has them trying to play football and is bringing through the youngsters. I couldn't really ask anymore at this point.

I'm a positive person for the future and we have a cracking bunch of talents coming through with some great lads at the even younger age groups but if the likes of Finland are beating you home and away, then it's hard to see us getting to Qatar or being remotely close.
Wrong im with Trap and MON, Brady and Kerr on this one, we have to attempt to qualify for every WC no matter what, we have been ripped off by crocked referees a long time. We are Ireland we could have reached the wc 2002 final, and win it, but thats another story

[Bielsa´s irish]

Im sad because we are gonna get beaten by them by 3 or 4 goals in 3 weeks, thats not sensible football, plus with Grealish and Rice on the pitch. We are not a laughing stock. This Kenny is so naive

[Razors left peg]

Which is it? You are disagreeing with yourself in the 3 posts in a row. We are either tough for England or gonna be beaten by 3 or 4 nil?

Anyway.... I think its a ridiculous decision to go ahead with this game. Financially it cant be amazing with no fans, the coverage of Rice and Grealish will be vomit inducing and more importantly we need some wins to kick start Kenny and to get into pot 2.

[Bielsa´s irish]

Which is it? You are disagreeing with yourself in the 3 posts in a row. We are either tough for England or gonna be beaten by 3 or 4 nil?

Anyway.... I think its a ridiculous decision to go ahead with this game. Financially it cant be amazing with no fans, the coverage of Rice and Grealish will be vomit inducing and more importantly we need some wins to kick start Kenny and to get into pot 2.

it is just to whow how ridiculous this decision is, first team to beat them.

we are gonna have a heavy defeat even if we play seamus coleman and james mccarthy.

4-0 for the 3 lions plus the mockery of bbc and sky on the irish misfits Rice and Grealish, maybe paddy bamford, redmond and delap get a game time for them to make it a laughing show

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

This is a ballsy move if Kenny had any say which he mightn't have had. I know it's just a friendly but get hammered by England, along with poor results v Bulgaria and Wales and then Kenny's position will be under threat. Whether you think that's right or not, that will be the case. I've mentioned it already in this thread but if he gets good results v England and the others, it will really kick off the Kenny era. This could go either way and these games that seem rather meaningless on first view, are of huge importance.

[tetsujin1979]

Ireland were first football team to beat England on home soil
Ireland has always been a piece of corn stuck in the 3 lions teeth.

It's been 35 years since England defeated the irish, I remembered the game was broadcasted live in Argentina because of our big irish community, played Eamonn okeefesomething up front, played Liam Brady, he scored a goal. Frank Stapleton was soo good that game but got kicked the whole game. I think Kevin Ocallahan played a bit a remember he was a classy player. He worked with Stallone in a movie
No it wasn't. Stop making stuff up.

[Bielsa´s irish]

No it wasn't. Stop making stuff up.
Escape to victory

[tetsujin1979]

The game wasn't broadcast in Argentina. Stop making stuff up

[seanfhear]

Ireland were first football team to beat England on home soil
Ireland has always been a piece of corn stuck in the 3 lions teeth.

It's been 35 years since England defeated the irish, I remembered the game was broadcasted live in Argentina because of our big irish community, played Eamonn okeefesomething up front, played Liam Brady, he scored a goal. Frank Stapleton was soo good that game but got kicked the whole game. I think Kevin Ocallahan played a bit a remember he was a classy player. He worked with Stallone in a movieWas that not a real life escape in the second world war with Stallone and O’Callaghan. I think they almost killed Hitler as well.

[seanfhear]

Which is it? You are disagreeing with yourself in the 3 posts in a row. We are either tough for England or gonna be beaten by 3 or 4 nil?

Anyway.... I think its a ridiculous decision to go ahead with this game. Financially it cant be amazing with no fans, the coverage of Rice and Grealish will be vomit inducing and more importantly we need some wins to kick start Kenny and to get into pot 2.
I expect Rice and Grealish will not feature.

[Razors left peg]

I expect Rice and Grealish will not feature.

What would make you say that?

[seanfhear]

What would make you say that?
Its just a friendly. England are using a lot of different players these days. Ok, their won’t be a crowd, certainly no Irish fans I assume. Just easier all round if the two lads didn’t show for this relatively meaningless game.

[Razors left peg]

Its just a friendly. England are using a lot of different players these days. Ok, their won’t be a crowd, certainly no Irish fans I assume. Just easier all round if the two lads didn’t show for this relatively meaningless game.

I have no doubt both will push to play and kiss the badge if they score.

[Deckydee]

A couple of points if I may:


1. Seeding : Pointless friendly especially considering that it may affect our seedings for the world cup draw.


2. Rats & Ghoulish : Will they play? Me thinks there will be a lot itchy trigger feet amoungst the current Irish squad.


3. Poppy : Its the day after armistice...will the team be requested to wear it?

[Razors left peg]

Oh yeah, forgot about the poppy sh1te. Makes it worse again.

I might start McClean in the game just for that( I wouldnt be upset to see him get 2 yellow cards for 2 hard tackles either)

[Bielsa´s irish]

Its just a friendly. England are using a lot of different players these days. Ok, their won’t be a crowd, certainly no Irish fans I assume. Just easier all round if the two lads didn’t show for this relatively meaningless game.
I know but they will make them play, will pressure on that as well,
the 70's are always coming back.
politics and soccer/football are the two sides of the same coin.

[Bielsa´s irish]

Thats the scenario I think this Kenny guy is a bit of naive, he may cheapen our national team in twenty days from today, plus he may place his head in the guillotine

[jbyrne]

3. Poppy : Its the day after armistice...will the team be requested to wear it?

not a chance

[seanfhear]

I have no doubt both will push to play and kiss the badge if they score.
I reckon the FA and even Southgate are too clever to allow that to happen. As i said England are playing a lot of players at the moment. The two lads will not be playing in the Irish game I suspect !

To be honest about it England could put out a very weak team against Ireland at the moment and still expect to do well !

[Bielsa´s irish]

A couple of points if I may:


1. Seeding : Pointless friendly especially considering that it may affect our seedings for the world cup draw.


2. Rats & Ghoulish : Will they play? Me thinks there will be a lot itchy trigger feet amoungst the current Irish squad.


3. Poppy : Its the day after armistice...will the team be requested to wear it?

Thats how the english operate things, can they make the irish wear the poppy symbol for the game?

eire republic vs england is never a friendly
it is like argentina vs brazil or holland vs germany, those are classic football matches.
Argentina vs england is never a friendly neither

[seanfhear]

Thats how the english operate things, can they make the irish wear the poppy symbol for the game?

eire republic vs england is never a friendly
it is like argentina vs brazil or holland vs germany, those are classic football matches.
Argentina vs england is never a friendly neither
Get yer mates to invade the Falklands ~ that’ll learn them.

[Paddy Garcia]

I'm genuinely fuming about this.
What was the point of the last two games if not to try to increase our ranking points.
The Europa League gets us nothing in the world cup cycle.


Does no one in the FAI understand how the world ranking ELO system works?
Of course they don't.
An absolute joke.

But Kenny is the manager! His final call.

[Bielsa´s irish]

Get yer mates to invade the Falklands ~ that’ll learn them.

we will never recover those islands and now less chance since they have found oil, you know. The pilgrims there are just as victims as our people

[paul_oshea]

What would make you say that?

For fear of fan reaction all the booing

[eekers]

Apparently the whole reasoning is they are afraid the English clubs wont release the players.
As if playing Bosnia away or England in Wembley were the only two options.

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[youngirish]

If we can't break our scoring duct against a team with Jordan Pickford in goal and Harry Maguire in defence then Kenny may aswell pack it in the following morning.

[seanfhear]

If we can't break our scoring duct against a team with Jordan Pickford in goal and Harry Maguire in defence then Kenny may aswell pack it in the following morning.LOL......

[Bielsa´s irish]

i checked on twitter the english are promoting this grudge match with Declan Rice in an irish shirt

[tetsujin1979]

i checked on twitter the english are promoting this grudge match with Declan Rice in an irish shirt
Good, you can post the tweets from English twitter users saying this, and if you don't I'll give you an infraction for an unproven allegation

[Stuttgart88]

To be honest about it England could put out a very weak team against Ireland at the moment and still expect to do well !Unfortunately I think you're right. I do hope Coleman is back fit.

I'm trying to think who would be the worst English striker that would be guaranteed a place in our starting XI. I think we'd be looking down the divisions. And the same in quite a few positions.