2020 season arrivals and departures [Archive] - Page 7

Ezeikial

30/12/2019, 9:38 AM

A scaling back maybe but even a scaled back dundalk would still be a highly likely Euro qualifier.

There is already a scaling back on admin costs with the dispensing of the Chief Executive position, which looks like it will not be filled with an external appointment.

Maybe the spare cash will be used for a 30 goal striker in the hope that Euro qualification can still happen without Mark Devlin and Mike Treacy😂

sbgawa

30/12/2019, 2:03 PM

Would have assumed CEO position is now funding an executive chair position. In my experience guys at his level like having people to do things for them, q a COO and marketing person.
Doesn't matter in the overall scheme of things money isn't an issue

Nesta99

30/12/2019, 2:54 PM

Nesta , surely you can't fail to notice that there appears to be a lot of coming and going taking in the dundalk boardroom in the last couple of years, hence the suspicion that a standard LOI drastic situation may be about to unfold?

On the Rovers thing, Byrne is staying for 2020 unless he's bought out of his contract in the January transfer period. No talk of any Rovers signings so far.

Fans' wishful thinking or head buried in the sand denial?? My thinking on the comings and goings at Oriel - money spent on decent calibre CEOs. They didnt make an impact either because they couldnt or they werent trying. Peak6 tried twice to make the position work but 2nd time the fit wasnt good with issues with local media and long term boaard members resigning,. Bill Hulsizer arrives the problem is removed and the board of the last 8 years is restored. With a GM in place all this time under a CEO the non appointment of a CEO especially with an Executive Chairman will minimise the need for a CEO, save that cost potentially, and remove what seemed to be an ineffective or what Peak6 determined, an underperforming role.

While not impossible down the line but to see a 'standard LOI drastic situation' as imminent is grasping at straws. I know people are queuing up to say I told ye so but it'll be a few more seasons yet before the there will be an opportunity to gloat!

sbgawa

30/12/2019, 3:02 PM

oriel

31/12/2019, 1:00 PM

The last CEO made a fair few mistakes, fell out with a respected local journo in one of the local papers, nonsense stuff really, also lack of knowledge in too many local / national items, and certainly a fair point sbgawa on a hard sell v championship in UK. A major gaffe was making a statement saying DFC will work with Louth GAA in their 'new stadium' with an eye on euro games, like that was ever going to happen. The umbro deal was also mentioned in some quarters as another reason he left, not sure exact detail in that, could be lenght of contract, cost, and maybe even style of the top with all the red ! Not sure the Shields disaster missing the cup final was his remit but was under his watch.

The new incoming chairman was at a good few games last season, and at the time of the Hoban new deal that was announced, took months to agree and looked dead, he was mentioned as having played critical
part.

Anyway, happy new year to all LOI fans, putting rivalaries aside, after the FAI mess, we really underestimate how much we all play in keeping Irish football going, remember the avg GAA county fan goes to probably 3-5 big games a year, most on here go to 15/18 home games and a plenty of away matches too, I'd say my rough count of attending 25 games last year was equaled by most on here.

Nesta99

31/12/2019, 8:09 PM

I'd say the reason the outside CEO's failed was as much down to them not realising that the loi is such a hard sell commercially compared to even small English clubs. An early reality check which was probably also a bit of a surprise for peak6.

I know what yer saying but I dont think it is an impossible sell but obviously a tougher market than some lower league clubs in England without other sports vying for a lot of the same punters. I think there were a few very basic issues that cropped up that zero knowledge of the league wouldnt have made much difference. From the outside looking in the personality didnt seem to be a fit - in some situations that's not a bad thing when trying to professionalise things but when other very professional and key members of a board walk away the good obviously outweighs the bad. LoI certainly has its quirks and is probably frustrating for a outside admin person, but if some of the issues doing the rounds are true from Liverpool to Chorley problems would arise. After 2 CEOs now the decision must have been made to delegate from within. I'd also be surprised if Peak6 didnt know exactly what they were up against. The resources behind them possibly meant that they feared less about the financial stick clubs got beaten with for any dissent. Could even be where the start of the end for the FAI cronies was. Would a club have outright rejected a payment plan for prizemoney if financially powerless to fight such circumstances - the legal fees would have eroded a good chunk of money if going to war with the old FAI regime and the risk may not have been taken!?

Anyway Happy New Year to all. Lets hope that 2020 will be remembered as the year that the FAI truly changes for the better and the start of LoI thriving!!

Now off to the pub! ;)

Dalymountrower

01/01/2020, 10:15 AM

Looks like Andy Lyons has signed for Crystal Palace, good luck to him.

total hoofball

01/01/2020, 3:37 PM

Gary Deegan signed for Shels

D24Saint

01/01/2020, 3:50 PM

https://www.extratime.ie/articles/24136/former-newcastle-united-and-middlesbrough-youth-dan-ward-set-to-sign-for-st-patricks-athletic/

Dan Ward in from spennymore town.

Dalymountrower

01/01/2020, 4:57 PM

Gary Deegan signed for Shels
Huge signing.

D24Saint

01/01/2020, 7:41 PM

Huge signing.

Good signing with bags of experience. That pesky $hels look set to be competitive next season.

sbgawa

03/01/2020, 12:56 PM

Rhys Marshall signs for Rovers from Glenavon
Right back/ Central midfielder.

Steve Bruce

03/01/2020, 1:02 PM

Rhys Marshall signs for Rovers from Glenavon
Right back/ Central midfielder.

He's best at rb, he can do a good job in midfield but is far superior at rb.

I would say with ft training you'll have a very good player on your hands.

I was hoping the blues would have got him but we signed ethan Boyle off rovers.

Ezeikial

03/01/2020, 2:15 PM

Seems to be a decent signing that will strengthen Rovers

joey B

03/01/2020, 3:53 PM

Mikey Drennan left Pat's, might not be playing football at all next season I think....

Yossarian

03/01/2020, 5:41 PM

Rhys Marshall signs for Rovers from Glenavon
Right back/ Central midfielder.

Was there a fee, presuming he was under contract?

Ezeikial

03/01/2020, 6:59 PM

Was there a fee, presuming he was under contract?

Details not disclosed, but presumably a "financial deal" means a fee of some description. It's the nature of these things that if the fee is modest, it allows the player negotiate a more substantial signing-on fee

�The Board has negotiated a sensible and acceptable financial deal with Shamrock Rovers given that we were faced with losing the player for nothing this summer� explains chairman Adrian Teer.

http://www.glenavonfc.com/2020/01/03/rhys-marshall-joins-shamrock-rovers/

Steve Bruce

03/01/2020, 11:17 PM

Details not disclosed, but presumably a "financial deal" means a fee of some description. It's the nature of these things that if the fee is modest, it allows the player negotiate a more substantial signing-on fee

http://www.glenavonfc.com/2020/01/03/rhys-marshall-joins-shamrock-rovers/

According to reports the deals worth 30k

Nah Nah Nah Nah

04/01/2020, 10:13 AM

Romeo Parkes has left us to play in America for a year for personal reasons. A huge loss.

sulywaterfordfc

04/01/2020, 11:02 AM

Back to his old haunt. Was part of Stephen Hendersons Waterford Utd side in 09 that should have went up that season and were in League Cup semis.

In 2009 we got to the FAI cup semi losing to Sligo and then lost a home league cup final to Bohs.

sulywaterfordfc

04/01/2020, 11:04 AM

Romeo Parkes has left us to play in America for a year for personal reasons. A huge loss.

How are Sligo looking so far?

sulywaterfordfc

04/01/2020, 2:49 PM

Tadhg Ryan signs for Waterford from Cork. Good signing for us. Improvement on the goal keeping position for us imo. Ryan was actually a player I had hoped we would sign.

Things starting to look a lot more positive now. You can sense the positivity and excitement among fans is building. Four excellent signings so far. Things are starting to fall into place now, plenty of rumors flying around too. Despite the two months of uncertainty, we may actually start the season better equipped then last season.

oriel

04/01/2020, 2:58 PM

If this is the same keeper, and I think it is, that stood in for McNulty in our1-0 win game in oriel park last season, he had a great game, was really impressed with him.

Nah Nah Nah Nah

04/01/2020, 4:00 PM

How are Sligo looking so far?

Wouldn�t have said we were looking great. Lost Romeo, Leverock, Twardek and Fordyce from what was probably our starting team last season and they haven�t all been replaced.

Bunny Kelly

04/01/2020, 4:05 PM

Whats going on with Cork, McGlade & Galvin are First Division players & keeping McNulty over Ryan? Doesn't look great

sbgawa

04/01/2020, 4:36 PM

Mcglade is capable of playing premier but needs a manager to put manners on him.

Bunny Kelly

04/01/2020, 4:43 PM

McGlade was a bit of an indulgence in first division so whether he would do enough for you to carry him in Premier division is seriously questionable. I would have thought Dean Byrne was the Longford forward who looked most suited for a step up

sbgawa

04/01/2020, 5:31 PM

Jack B

04/01/2020, 6:11 PM

I like Galvin from what I've seen of him, seems a decent player. McGlade is talented but I think he'll flatter to deceive at PD level. Still and all it's shaping up to be an entertaining Cork side which will be a bit of a change for them.

Talk of us signing Michael O'Connor, which would be...interesting.

dundalkfc10

04/01/2020, 7:01 PM

sbgawa

04/01/2020, 7:16 PM

Someone will take a chance on o Conner that coincides with him growing up copping on and being excellent.
Ex dundalk striker that did f all signs for cork and .........

sulywaterfordfc

04/01/2020, 9:28 PM

There�s a player in OConnor, he�s got bags of potential. If he doesn�t start showing it soon it�ll ruin his career. I�d like to see him back with us for the season

Longfordian

05/01/2020, 12:39 AM

I remember an interview he gave when he said that his current manager knew his strengths and didn't expect him to track runners or get back. With that attitude he won't make it in the prem but if a manager kicks his arse hard enough he could be excellent
Fenn being his manager at the time. I'd question if he can score enough in the Premier to justify that but he is definitely talented.

Nah Nah Nah Nah

05/01/2020, 1:14 AM

Buckley wouldn't be so stupid

Have we lost our manager as well?

Martinho II

05/01/2020, 8:59 AM

I remember an interview he gave when he said that his current manager knew his strengths and didn't expect him to track runners or get back. With that attitude he won't make it in the prem but if a manager kicks his arse hard enough he could be excellent

That would have being Neale Fenn with us. McGlade an awful self indulgent player for us.

Bunny Kelly

05/01/2020, 10:00 AM

There�s a player in OConnor, he�s got bags of potential. If he doesn�t start showing it soon it�ll ruin his career. I�d like to see him back with us for the season

I really liked O'Connor at Waterford, I'm not sure how prolific he will be but a really good striker with his back to goal if only playing one striker, he would make forward line better.

As an aside, is the 20 goal striker a misguided target in a modern 451/433 formation, Hoban clearly wasn't prolific last season but great at linking things together, you could the same to a degree with Greene at Rovers

Longfordian

05/01/2020, 12:17 PM

That would have being Neale Fenn with us. McGlade an awful self indulgent player for us.

That's too harsh in fairness. He was our best player in his last season, albeit with the team being built around him more or less.

oriel

06/01/2020, 1:17 PM

Whats going on with Cork, McGlade & Galvin are First Division players & keeping McNulty over Ryan? Doesn't look great

I'd imagine they are trying to cut their wage bill in an attempt to keep this modest for a season or so, seems most of the higher paid players have already left, and those coming in are less profile. Def the correct thing to do if you want to stabilise and work on reducing the debt a little.

Nesta99

06/01/2020, 2:07 PM

I'd imagine they are trying to cut their wage bill in an attempt to keep this modest for a season or so, seems most of the higher paid players have already left, and those coming in are less profile. Def the correct thing to do if you want to stabilise and work on reducing the debt a little.

I cant see Ryan being on a whole lot and would have been a better longer term option than an aging McNulty. McNulty as back up on a new reduced contract would have made sense, unless Fenn has other options in mind for 'keeper!?

Pablo Escobar

06/01/2020, 2:47 PM

disgruntled

06/01/2020, 3:13 PM

I cant see Ryan being on a whole lot and would have been a better longer term option than an aging McNulty. McNulty as back up on a new reduced contract would have made sense, unless Fenn has other options in mind for 'keeper!?

Liam Bossin has been signed as a keeper while McNulty is taking up a coaching role as well as being back up keeper. We also have David Harrington a young keeper, son of former keeper & goal keeping coach Phil "Biscuits" Harrington.
I liked Ryan myself & thought he was a great shot stopper but the thinking may be that with Bossin & McNulty there as well as Harrington we should be ok for keepers.

I'm more worried about the lack of a decent centre back & some experience elsewhere rather that a keeper at present.
There are talks of players coming in from outside Ireland but we don't know who they are ?
Most likely loans from the UK.

Nesta99

06/01/2020, 8:12 PM

Liam Bossin has been signed as a keeper while McNulty is taking up a coaching role as well as being back up keeper. We also have David Harrington a young keeper, son of former keeper & goal keeping coach Phil "Biscuits" Harrington.
I liked Ryan myself & thought he was a great shot stopper but the thinking may be that with Bossin & McNulty there as well as Harrington we should be ok for keepers.

I'm more worried about the lack of a decent centre back & some experience elsewhere rather that a keeper at present.
There are talks of players coming in from outside Ireland but we don't know who they are ?
Most likely loans from the UK.

Makes sense, doubling up a reserve keeper with goalkeeping coach, young lad as a number 3 is plenty of cover. Dont know much about Bossin bar whats online. Good former club experience? Would he have been a less costly option than keeping Ryan if the squad needs adding to elsewhere. There are quite a few trailists on the go this preseason by all accounts so ye never know where a player could crop up albeit maybe not with the experience hoped for.

Jack B

06/01/2020, 11:09 PM

That'd be my worry if I was a Cork fan, they seem to have put faith in Bossin rather than Ryan (or Clarkie on loan if that was to be believed) when he has absolutely minimal first team experience. Could well turn out to be a good call obviously but for the time being seems a massive risk.

sbgawa

06/01/2020, 11:13 PM

Worst case scenario cork have mcnulty who hasn't become tomar chenchenski overnight

Nesta99

07/01/2020, 3:16 AM

Worst case scenario cork have mcnulty who hasn't become tomar chenchenski overnight

Maybe not quite but he did have a ropey season by former standards, but then of course Cork had a ropey season in general. He was obviously so apolegetic for those celebrations he threw the ball in to the net a couple of times to make amends, just in case it was his last season!!

Ezeikial

07/01/2020, 6:30 AM

Striker Luke Moore (34 in Feb) rumoured to be trialling with Shamrock Rovers. Perhaps he is the hatstand Rovers have been seeking?

Nah Nah Nah Nah

07/01/2020, 7:42 AM

I hear Jamie McGrath is signing for St Mirren

Ezeikial

07/01/2020, 8:16 AM

I hear Jamie McGrath is signing for St Mirren

Journalist James Rogers tends to be a very reliable source

Jamie McGrath Scotland bound this morning where he is expected to complete a deal to join SPL side St Mirren. He will be joined in Paisley by Cork City defender Conor McCarthy

The 23-year-old midfielder also had another offer within the SPL as well as others in England and Belgium, as well as from Dundalk. All going well he could make his SPL debut at Ibrox against Rangers on Wednesday January 22nd.

https://twitter.com/jamesdundalk/status/1214442165595709440