League Cup 2019

[SwanVsDalton]

Gillespie deserved to go. He should have been sent off six times over for braindead stupidity, whether McGrath turned into Greg Louganis and gave it a 6.0 from the top of the Southend Stand or not (and he didn't).

What a brilliant, brilliant game. What an occasion. Sometimes when you lose, you still win just cause you get to see something so class. Derry going toe-to-toe with one of the best domestic teams of my lifetime with a man down for an hour - pure magic stuff. Thought the officiating was poor, Gillespie sending off aside, with some icky decisions either way but you can't have everything. Just a great, thrilling bit of football theatre.

Dundalk are infuriatingly good and cute-hooringly infuriating, just like you have to be. I admire them about as much as I dislike them. :)

[pineapple stu]

Am I right in thinking that the only games Dundalk have failed to win domestically since mid April are 4 2-2 draws with Derry?

[osarusan]

Anybody with a link to a highlights package that includes the red card?

[pineapple stu]

Not sure if this has the full penalty shoot out, but it has the re card and goals anyway

https://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/sport/478115/watch-highlights-of-dundalk-fc-s-superb-ea-sports-cup-final-victory-over-derry-city.html

[seand]

Am I right in thinking that the only games Dundalk have failed to win domestically since mid April are 4 2-2 draws with Derry?

Almost- but just 3 draws (we beat Derry 3-2 in the FAI Cup). Lost back-to-back league games at Pats and Sligo in April. There were some calls for Perth's head. Since then we've played 27 games domestically, 24 wins and 3 2-2 draws with Derry (counting the EA Cup final as a draw)

[marinobohs]

I am also dismayed by the lack of intervention from hoops fans on this matter.
They are waiting on the fuzzy photograph 😁

[pineapple stu]

Almost- but just 3 draws (we beat Derry 3-2 in the FAI Cup). Lost back-to-back league games at Pats and Sligo in April. There were some calls for Perth's head. Since then we've played 27 games domestically, 24 wins and 3 2-2 draws with Derry (counting the EA Cup final as a draw)
Ah yes - it was 2-2 after 90 minutes, so it's kind of four in a row.

[Nesta99]

I really hope that the club identify all those involved!

https://www.dundalkfc.com/club-statement-sep-2019/ (https://www.dundalkfc.com/club-statement-sep-2019/)

[marinobohs]

I really hope that the club identify all those involved!

https://www.dundalkfc.com/club-statement-sep-2019/ (https://www.dundalkfc.com/club-statement-sep-2019/)
A possible cup final V Bohs or shams should sort them out. 😉

[Charlie Darwin]

If you have a look again at the Gillespie second yellow it should be obvious that Grant Gillespie made a dangerous lunge at the ball and was no where near it - it was a yellow card all day long.

Jamie McGrath had already played the ball and appears to hurdle the challenge. Whether McGrath stays on his feet or not is irrelevant, it was a clear booking for a dangerous and late challenge. If he actually connected with McGrath it could easily have been a straight red. The ref was very close to the incident.

Grant Gillespie was thwe author of his own misfortune

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1172968389154938880

Derry played with great spirit and determination for 60 minutes with 10 men
Can't see why anyone would say McGrath was cheating. He was lucky to be able to avoid the challenge and it was at least a yellow.

[dundalkfc10]

A possible cup final V Bohs or shams should sort them out. 😉

I know plenty of Dundalk fans, who would like to see them get their heads handed to them by Bohs fans or Rovers

[sbgawa]

Have to commend DFC on a pretty straightforward condemnation ,
The problem is and we have seen this at Rovers the kind of Muppet's involved seem to enjoy the publicity and notoriety.
Stadium bans and there have been plenty handed out don't stop some of them traveling to away matches and also sneaking onto some home matches.
Its hard to weed people out but it starts with outright clarity that the behavior is unacceptable.

[Ezeikial]

Let's be clear about the behaviour involved -

There are the pitch invaders and then there are the scumbags who were involved in fighting or goading home supporters.

The attitude as displayed in the club statement is not strong enough on the first cohort


The club does not condone any spectators invading the playing surface

As long as pitch invaders are tolerated, the others will get to act out and create mayhem.

IMO The first group need to be educated (and repeat offenders prosecuted and banned), the second group prosecuted & banned with zero tolerance.

[oriel]

In Dundalk’s case, most know at this stage where this nasty little group are from. They travel on an NI reg bus as not one in the town will take them to games. Avg age late teen / early 20’s, often thought that NI based bus must be desperate for business, as anytime you see it, its party central, drinking and smoking no doubt.

Some in this group ran the entire length of the pitch to provoke Derry fans near the end where the pens were taken. Their behaviour was absolutely disgraceful and hopefully all be see lengthy bans. Further, any away trip I`m on, including in Europe, one of my first port of calls is finding out where they are, then to make sure we don’t go to the same spots. They are an absolute nuisance at this stage.

Of course the worst with all this, 95% of the 800 who travelled up behaved well, and for those of us who stayed over were treated brilliantly, then this. Complete embarrassment to the club.

Derry City is a fine club / lovely spot and they certainly didn't deserve to witness this.

[EatYerGreens]

In Dundalk’s case, most know at this stage where this nasty little group are from. They travel on an NI reg bus as not one in the town will take them to games. Avg age late teen / early 20’s, often thought that NI based bus must be desperate for business, as anytime you see it, its party central, drinking and smoking no doubt.

Some in this group ran the entire length of the pitch to provoke Derry fans near the end where the pens were taken. Their behaviour was absolutely disgraceful and hopefully all be see lengthy bans. Further, any away trip I`m on, including in Europe, one of my first port of calls is finding out where they are, then to make sure we don’t go to the same spots. They are an absolute nuisance at this stage.

Of course the worst with all this, 95% of the 800 who travelled up behaved well, and for those of us who stayed over were treated brilliantly, then this. Complete embarrassment to the club.

Derry City is a fine club / lovely spot and they certainly didn't deserve to witness this.

It is against the law to consume alcohol on a bus in Northern Ireland if you're on the way to a football match. I sh'it you not.

Maybe the next time finding out what time their bus is on the road and someone giving the PSNI a wee call might be a handy way to knock it all on the head.

[ToberonaTornado]

It is against the law to consume alcohol on a bus in Northern Ireland if you're on the way to a football match. I sh'it you not.

Maybe the next time finding out what time their bus is on the road and someone giving the PSNI a wee call might be a handy way to knock it all on the head.

Tout
;)

[sbgawa]

Call their mams

[Martinho II]

These so called Dundalk fans are they from dundalk or from just across the border? Its not the first time this has happened is it?

[dundalkfc10]

These so called Dundalk fans are they from dundalk or from just across the border? Its not the first time this has happened is it?

They are from Dundalk. No bus companies in Dundalk will take them to games, so they get a bus company in Newry

[marinobohs]

Pitch invasion never acceptable and has crept in at some clubs, shams and Bohs now Dundalk and Sheld seem to be doing it
It is trespass and courts could and should impose a stiff sentence in ALL cases. Teach the scroats to stay off the pitch in future.

[ToberonaTornado]

In Dundalk’s case, most know at this stage where this nasty little group are from. They travel on an NI reg bus as not one in the town will take them to games. Avg age late teen / early 20’s, often thought that NI based bus must be desperate for business, as anytime you see it, its party central, drinking and smoking no doubt.

Some in this group ran the entire length of the pitch to provoke Derry fans near the end where the pens were taken. Their behaviour was absolutely disgraceful and hopefully all be see lengthy bans. Further, any away trip I`m on, including in Europe, one of my first port of calls is finding out where they are, then to make sure we don’t go to the same spots. They are an absolute nuisance at this stage.

Of course the worst with all this, 95% of the 800 who travelled up behaved well, and for those of us who stayed over were treated brilliantly, then this. Complete embarrassment to the club.

Derry City is a fine club / lovely spot and they certainly didn't deserve to witness this.


Pitch invasion never acceptable and has crept in at some clubs, shams and Bohs now Dundalk and Sheld seem to be doing it
It is trespass and courts could and should impose a stiff sentence in ALL cases. Teach the scroats to stay off the pitch in future.

Never acceptable,The club have them on the radar,out the door.The dicks from the Cork game attack are still serving time.Dundalk have been very proactive in this regard has to be said.

@Oriel 95% -so 5% = 40.
No more than 10,maybe 12 involved in the trouble in Derry.

[Nesta99]

Their 'leader' is no young fella or is this another group again?

[ToberonaTornado]

Their 'leader' is no young fella or is this another group again?

He's the gaffer,plays no part but complicit.

[dundalkfc10]

Their 'leader' is no young fella or is this another group again?

H***y the B*****d as he is known around town

[EatYerGreens]

Tout
;)

Fcuk 'em.

No mercy for wannabe-English scumbags.

[EatYerGreens]

Pitch invasion never acceptable and has crept in at some clubs, shams and Bohs now Dundalk and Sheld seem to be doing it
It is trespass and courts could and should impose a stiff sentence in ALL cases. Teach the scroats to stay off the pitch in future.

The Republic should do what's happened in Britain, and make it a criminal offence to encroach onto a football pitch during or around a game.

It's extremely rare to see anyone going on to a pitch in English or Scottish football these days as a result. And very easy to deal with those who do, as most have the sense not to follow them.

[oriel]

Yes fair point TT, around 10 involved, but its still 10 too many, even if thats tiny percentage.

[Ezeikial]

The Republic should do what's happened in Britain, and make it a criminal offence to encroach onto a football pitch during or around a game.

It's extremely rare to see anyone going on to a pitch in English or Scottish football these days as a result. And very easy to deal with those who do, as most have the sense not to follow them.

Making it a criminal offence is a step towards discouraging the growing issue of pitch invaders. Education of supporters as to why it is not acceptable is also important and can have an impact on the core support whose behaviour is more innocent or euphoric.


Yes fair point TT, around 10 involved, but its still 10 too many, even if thats tiny percentage.

Whether it is 10 or 50 involved in the aggressive stuff, the facts are they are less likely to get involved in fighting or goading opposition fans if they are not on the pitch.

Anyone involved in assaulting others etc should be arrested and charged with zero tolerance applied

[Martinho II]

Pitch invasion never acceptable and has crept in at some clubs, shams and Bohs now Dundalk and Sheld seem to be doing it
It is trespass and courts could and should impose a stiff sentence in ALL cases. Teach the scroats to stay off the pitch in future.

Yeah we had trouble with the shels fans a few wks back. 15-16 seats broken by their away end.invasion onto the pitch. And you know what they have gotten away with paying the bill too. Will have to try that sometime!

[marinobohs]

H***y the B*****d as he is known around town

Bit harsh on Hoopy :cool:

[wonder88]

Shelbourne and Shamrock R crowds both very bad at this carry on in Galway this season. Much more than 5% of their followers involved, say up 20%. So sad to see this english behavior going on here, could these dubs not go over the water for their soccer.

[sbgawa]

I've always felt the pitch incursions in Galway were a bit different to anywhere else, the stewards are great down there and it always seems like good natured craic rather than aggressive.
I'm not excusing the incursions as much as pointing out how well the Galway stewards deal with the fans in general and create a friendly welcoming atmosphere.
Some of the incursions elsewhere have just been of the gurrier variety.
Trouble is its hard to ignore in one place and condemn in others.

[marinobohs]

The Republic should do what's happened in Britain, and make it a criminal offence to encroach onto a football pitch during or around a game.

It's extremely rare to see anyone going on to a pitch in English or Scottish football these days as a result. And very easy to deal with those who do, as most have the sense not to follow them.

Totally agree. while most pitch incursions are harmless enough in itself there really does need to be a zero tolerance policy. It is never justified.