League Cup 2019

[Yossarian]

Brandywell with an 8:00 kick off to really encourage families to travel. 🙄

[Ezeikial]

Brandywell with an 8:00 kick off to really encourage families to travel. 

I have no problem with travelling to the final in the Brandywell and actually look forward it, Derry supporters being among the most hospitable you can find.

The 8pm kick off will certainly curtail the travelling support, especially families. There are also problems relating to the security of travelling buses that need to be addressed as many bus companies are still refusing to travel after repeated window breaking incidents

[dundalkfc10]

I have no problem with travelling to the final in the Brandywell and actually look forward it, Derry supporters being among the most hospitable you can find.

The 8pm kick off will certainly curtail the travelling support, especially families. There are also problems relating to the security of travelling buses that need to be addressed as many bus companies are still refusing to travel after repeated window breaking incidents

They must have got re-assurances, We just booked Anchor Tours there leaving Dundalk at 1. Cant wait for a day out in Derry. Great City

How many tickets will we get do you think?

[Yossarian]

I have no issue with the game being in the Brandywell. It’s the 8pm kickoff when this game has been an early evening kickoff the last few years. Is this because of the Institute game on that day, is that still going ahead?

[EatYerGreens]

I have no problem with travelling to the final in the Brandywell and actually look forward it, Derry supporters being among the most hospitable you can find.

The 8pm kick off will certainly curtail the travelling support, especially families. There are also problems relating to the security of travelling buses that need to be addressed as many bus companies are still refusing to travel after repeated window breaking incidents

There are no such problems.

There were for a brief period a number of years ago, but absolutely nothing since.

Even the likes of Linfield and Coleraine fans with their union flags and 'interesting' songs can get in and out of the Brandywell without incident.

Time for any bus companies like that to move into the present tense.

[ToberonaTornado]

There are no such problems.

There were for a brief period a number of years ago, but absolutely nothing since.

Even the likes of Linfield and Coleraine fans with their union flags and 'interesting' songs can get in and out of the Brandywell without incident.

Time for any bus companies like that to move into the present tense.

100%

There'll be some line at op when the tickets go on sale.People from Dundalk will go be it by hook,crook,car or bus.

[oriel]

No issues whatsover this being held in Brandywell, about 10-12 of us stayed up on St Patricks weekend, first league game, brilliant weekend, locals very friendly, prob do same again.

8pm not so good with those travelling up with kids though, wouldn’t be home until close to 1am.

Is the later time (usually 5pm) really to facilitate Institue v Larne kicking off at 3pm, surely that wouldn’t attract any more than 400 ? That could have been moved to Fri night.

Look, it’s the better stadium, as I said no issues overall, looking forward to going up, should be a great weekend.

[RathfarnhamHoop]

The precedent for a draw (transparent or otherwise) is already established as is the fact that the grounds used by both finalists meet licencing criteria - there is probably little to debate about this seasons final.

My personal preference would be for a neutral venue where that is likely to be a financially viable option considering the teams involved

Licencing criteria are a minimum requirement, I'm talking about the FAI having actual standards for once. Hosting a final should be a reward for hard work on and off the pitch, you can't have a final, that will be televised and built up as a marquee event shouldn't be held in a **** hole. It's bad enough but understandable tharlt oriel is on TV a lot for league games these days but it reflects awfully on the league every time its shown and gives people another stick to beat the league with.

[brendy_éire]

How many tickets will we get do you think?

As it's an FAI event, does that mean you get half?


It’s the 8pm kickoff when this game has been an early evening kickoff the last few years. Is this because of the Institute game on that day, is that still going ahead?

The 8 o'clock KO is silly, but a consequence of the game not being moved to the Sunday as per last year.

The Stute game seems to be going ahead. It's scheduled for 3 o'clock. Seems like quite the rush to get the Stute/Larne teams out, the dressing rooms cleaned up, etc., in time for the Derry/Dundalk lads arriving in.
How early before KO does a ground half to be available? It wouldn't be ready until 6 at the earliest, you'd imagine.

Also, none of this solves my wedding conundrum. It's only in Donegal, just over the hills from the Brandy. There's chat of sneaking away for a couple hours....:cool:

[brendy_éire]

Is the later time (usually 5pm) really to facilitate Institue v Larne kicking off at 3pm, surely that wouldn’t attract any more than 400 ? That could have been moved to Fri night.

Stute will have that booked months ago. It'd be very cheeky, and likely a breach of contract, for the Council to turf them out. They could possibly move KO to 2pm, but that wouldn't change the 8pm KO time.

[joey B]

As it's an FAI event, does that mean you get half?



The 8 o'clock KO is silly, but a consequence of the game not being moved to the Sunday as per last year.

The Stute game seems to be going ahead. It's scheduled for 3 o'clock. Seems like quite the rush to get the Stute/Larne teams out, the dressing rooms cleaned up, etc., in time for the Derry/Dundalk lads arriving in.
How early before KO does a ground half to be available? It wouldn't be ready until 6 at the earliest, you'd imagine.

Also, none of this solves my wedding conundrum. It's only in Donegal, just over the hills from the Brandy. There's chat of sneaking away for a couple hours....:cool:

Games on Eir sport,get in on at wedding:cool:

[Yossarian]

Stute will have that booked months ago. It'd be very cheeky, and likely a breach of contract, for the Council to turf them out. They could possibly move KO to 2pm, but that wouldn't change the 8pm KO time.

If that’s the case then the Brandywell shouldn’t have been considered for the final on that day. Either have it on the Sunday or not there at all. Ridiculous that a cup final time is determined by an Irish League fixture.

[Nesta99]

Licencing criteria are a minimum requirement, I'm talking about the FAI having actual standards for once. Hosting a final should be a reward for hard work on and off the pitch, you can't have a final, that will be televised and built up as a marquee event shouldn't be held in a **** hole. It's bad enough but understandable tharlt oriel is on TV a lot for league games these days but it reflects awfully on the league every time its shown and gives people another stick to beat the league with.

When Oriel is packed and especially if a temporary stand was erected behind the Carrick goal like at the previous LC final it doesnt look half as bad on TV as you suggest. Atmoshpere is never lacking either. What looks worse imo is a half full stadium at any cup final even its the Aviva as the naysayers are more likely to be critical about that in my experience.

I dont mind the game being in the Brandywell. Any trip to Derry is always to be looked forward to and is the most welcoming away fixture in the league. A big part of that is the way fans can mingle with ease without need to consider any issue of trouble breaking out. What happened with buses in the past has been sorted - the sort of thing that can happen at any ground if a bunch of idiot kids try to mimick what they've seen on tv or the like. Bus companies need to ease up on it by now!!

Apart from the Institute fixture could the KO time have anything to do with facilitating TV coverage? It wouldnt be a bad thing if its going to subsequently be marketed and pushed by Eir as a big game that they are showing.

[Ezeikial]

There are no such problems.

There were for a brief period a number of years ago, but absolutely nothing since.

Even the likes of Linfield and Coleraine fans with their union flags and 'interesting' songs can get in and out of the Brandywell without incident.

Time for any bus companies like that to move into the present tense.

I have never experienced any problem in or around the Brandywell

However, if there is a perception of possible trouble on the back of previous stone throwing incidents, then this is a problem. If a consequence of this is that some bus companies are refusing to take fans to the Brandywell or are charging a premium, this perception causes real problems for people travelling.

What has been done to ensure no repeat of previous multiple incidents?




They must have got re-assurances, We just booked Anchor Tours there leaving Dundalk at 1. Cant wait for a day out in Derry. Great City



A step in the right direction

[Nesta99]

Isnt there other areas in Derry that buses could park up away from the Brandywell area if they were concerned and let fans make their way to the ground. It isnt that far to walk especially with a few pitstops in a bar or 3 on the way

[RathfarnhamHoop]

When Oriel is packed and especially if a temporary stand was erected behind the Carrick goal like at the previous LC final it doesnt look half as bad on TV as you suggest. Atmoshpere is never lacking either. What looks worse imo is a half full stadium at any cup final even its the Aviva as the naysayers are more likely to be critical about that in my experience.

I'd nearly say the opposite, looked much better for the European games I thought, obviously not as good as it would have with something behind aylt least one of the goals but the main stand side looked much better. Still not acceptable for the league champions and way off the mark for where you'd want a major game held.

[dundalkfc10]

I'd nearly say the opposite, looked much better for the European games I thought, obviously not as good as it would have with something behind aylt least one of the goals but the main stand side looked much better. Still not acceptable for the league champions and way off the mark for where you'd want a major game held.

Passes standards for 2 rounds of European Football. Its very acceptable for LOI

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Passes standards for 2 rounds of European Football. Its very acceptable for LOI

Don't try defend oriel, that's just embarrassing, attempting to defend not doing anything to it is bad enough nevermind defending how it is.

[oriel]

Oriel Park in its current guise is barely acceptable for league games nevermind anything else ! It passes for europe due to 3k seats (2k covered), bare minimum.

Been here many times before, but a modest stand behind the town goal, and L shape roof on both sides of the stand would do wonders to the old girl.

Hosting the game in Brandywell is much better for the competition as its obv a much better ground, probably ranked 3rd from 10 in the PD v Oriel Park being 8th from 10.

[ToberonaTornado]

Don't try defend oriel, that's just embarrassing, attempting to defend not doing anything to it is bad enough nevermind defending how it is.

State of you here a mhic:rolleyes:
Don't fall off that high horse of yours cos its a long way to fall Dick van Dyke.
As.....

[RathfarnhamHoop]

State of you here a mhic:rolleyes:
Don't fall off that high horse of yours cos its a long way to fall Dick van Dyke.
As.....

Look at the post above then rethink what you just said. I'm just stating facts here.

[ToberonaTornado]

Look at the post above then rethink what you just said. I'm just stating facts here.

ok and sorry about that wee J-R-M.
That's his opinion,he's entitled to it but it dosn't make it right.#FACT
I said fact last so i'm right!

[RathfarnhamHoop]

ok and sorry about that wee J-R-M.
That's his opinion,he's entitled to it but it dosn't make it right.#FACT
I said fact last so i'm right!

It's a fact that oriel is a tip. If you even try argue otherwise you're deluded. Even the people running the club have said as much.

[dundalkfc10]

Don't try defend oriel, that's just embarrassing, attempting to defend not doing anything to it is bad enough nevermind defending how it is.

You really have a chip on that shoulder. We dont have a Council who will do it for us, Why would the club put itself in financial difficulty with no help from anyone else? We have been over this a hundred times, get over it, it will be a few years before anything is done.

P.S I love Oriel when packed, no better atmosphere in the league

[Nesta99]

Rome wasnt built in a day and all that. How long did it take Tallaght to be able to host games from when the first sod was turned? Nobody is defending Oriel Park, it needs a lot of improvement, it should never have fallen so far behind. We are what 5 or 6 years on from becoming challangers for the league, 7 from going out of existance. It will take longer still to get a Louth County Council magic wand waved even if Dundalk FC paid every cent for a new ground. Planning process alone could take 2+ years and thats without considering the time warping effect that LoI ground developments seem happen within. I'm sure if we had a super stadium with heated seats you would find something to irk you RH. That's not being defensive simply an observation.

As an FAI final it should be hosted appropriately whether it's in a ground that's up to peoples satisfaction of aesthetics on TV, or not being shoehorned in to an evening fixture slot a couple of hours after league game from a completely different league. No issues with the Brandywell as mentioned, but it's not showing respect to a national final by the organisers either.

[Martinho II]

At least it's FT (It was over after 14 mins). Shocking "defending " on what was an unacceptable display by Bohs.
Fair play to Dundalk they smelt blood and finished it off early doors. They have really hit form for the run in.
Hoban definitely "finished" �� but Perth might get another week !
Little, if anything, positive for Bohs to take. Talbot got suspension out of the way and em, that's it ! Need a reaction for Friday.

how did our ex playerMick Kelly do for ye marino?

[Martinho II]

What is the story with Louth Co Co in general with its attitude to soccer clubs in the region?.
Drogheda Utd have huge issues with their stadium for years too along with Dundalk.

[marinobohs]

how did our ex playerMick Kelly do for ye marino?

Looked nervy first half (probobly more due to crazy "defending" and Dundalk early blitz) but settled down and made 3/4 Decent saves. We have been spoiled with keepers, both Talbot and Supple called up to international squad but Kelly looked OK. Probobly need another game or two to make a call but not a bad debut (given the scoreline).

[Martinho II]

Looked nervy first half (probobly more due to crazy "defending" and Dundalk early blitz) but settled down and made 3/4 Decent saves. We have been spoiled with keepers, both Talbot and Supple called up to international squad but Kelly looked OK. Probobly need another game or two to make a call but not a bad debut (given the scoreline).

in fairness to him he hasnt played football since he left us at end of last season. Mick is a superb shotstopper and great kick out of him too. With the form of Lee Steacey for us this season we havent missed Mick at all which is remarkable really.

[Nesta99]

What is the story with Louth Co Co in general with its attitude to soccer clubs in the region?.
Drogheda Utd have huge issues with their stadium for years too along with Dundalk.

Replied in Stadium thread albeit not a stadium update.

[mcgonigle]

It's a fact that oriel is a tip. If you even try argue otherwise you're deluded. Even the people running the club have said as much.

This is news to me. Why hasn't anyone mentioned this before?

[RathfarnhamHoop]

Rome wasnt built in a day and all that. How long did it take Tallaght to be able to host games from when the first sod was turned? Nobody is defending Oriel Park, it needs a lot of improvement, it should never have fallen so far behind. We are what 5 or 6 years on from becoming challangers for the league, 7 from going out of existance. It will take longer still to get a Louth County Council magic wand waved even if Dundalk FC paid every cent for a new ground. Planning process alone could take 2+ years and thats without considering the time warping effect that LoI ground developments seem happen within. I'm sure if we had a super stadium with heated seats you would find something to irk you RH. That's not being defensive simply an observation.

As an FAI final it should be hosted appropriately whether it's in a ground that's up to peoples satisfaction of aesthetics on TV, or not being shoehorned in to an evening fixture slot a couple of hours after league game from a completely different league. No issues with the Brandywell as mentioned, but it's not showing respect to a national final by the organisers either.

Listen I'm not getting into the Oriel Park debate again, all I'm saying is that finals of the premier football competitions in this country should be held in a ground befitting the occasion and at this moment Oriel Park is not that so it should be excluded from the equation until such a time that it is. Getting to host a big occasion is a reward not a right. For the purpose of this discussion I couldn't give a flying **** about if plans are in the works or not, its irrelevant until plans are completed, until Oriel isn't a **** hole it shouldn't be allowed to host national league finals, simple as, show the competition some respect.


Passes standards for 2 rounds of European Football. Its very acceptable for LOI

Yeah that's not defending it :rolleyes:

[Nesta99]

It was a genuine question about Tallaght Stadium, from starting to being able to hold games was how long?

I dont disagree that a national final shouldnt be played in a fitting stadium. What that is determined by is always going to be based on opinion. Was Ferrycarraig an appropriate venue when it was held there? The League Cup is a competition that does seem to reward clubs like Wexford Youths, Markest Field was also used recently, ED Park too (and I'm not making a compasiron with Oriel either!!). It's a toss of a coin of course so it may not have fallen in the favour of those clubs but at the time I didnt see too many having issue with Ferrycarrig for example, people felt that it would be a shot in the arm for the club.

[sbgawa]

22 years Nesta :)

[Nesta99]

Much obliged :p, felt like 222... It was far too painful for me to look up and not even a Rovers fan!!

[dundalkfc10]

Whats the capacity of Brandywell?

We have been given 700 tickets and if they are gone told we will get another 300

[nigel-harps1954]

Whats the capacity of Brandywell?

We have been given 700 tickets and if they are gone told we will get another 300

About 3900 afaik. 3700 seats and standing room for 200 either side of Mark Farren stand.

[EatYerGreens]

About 3900 afaik. 3700 seats and standing room for 200 either side of Mark Farren stand.

As far as I'm aware, the stadium is considered all-seater so there is no standing capacity.

The FAI will take a chunk of the tickets for themselves, sponsors etc.

[brendy_éire]

Brandywell sold out for this now.

[Martinho II]

Brandywell sold out for this now.

whats the capacity in brandywell now for final brendy?

[joey B]

whats the capacity in brandywell now for final brendy?

About 1200(HMRC)
3900/4000 (Reality)!!!

[brendy_éire]

About 1200(HMRC)
3900/4000 (Reality)!!!

3,900 seated, and they released a couple of hundred terrace tickets too. First time they've down that.

[Ezeikial]

I expect that the Bluebell Bar near the stadium will be jammers pre-match. Any suggestions for alternative places to watch the All-Ireland replay on tv?

[Ezeikial]

Dundalk will wear their Temple St Children's Hospital kit for the final this evening.

Ciaran Callan gives some background on the charity initiative

https://www.sseairtricityleague.ie/news/temple-street-jersey-initiative-praised-as-dundalk-prepare-for-ea-sports-cup-final/id-2995

[dundalkfc10]

I expect that the Bluebell Bar near the stadium will be jammers pre-match. Any suggestions for alternative places to watch the All-Ireland replay on tv?

I know a bus load leaving town at 2 going to Peadar O'Donnells

[brendy_éire]

I expect that the Bluebell Bar near the stadium will be jammers pre-match. Any suggestions for alternative places to watch the All-Ireland replay on tv?

The Oak Grove on Bishop Street could be a shout, though it'll be busy too.

Peadar O'Donnell's (or any of the bars beside it) on Waterloo Street would be good too, just slightly further away from the ground. You can walk it in a brisk 10 minutes though.

[White Horse]

Cracking pre match atmosphere in the Brandywell.

[CorribsideSteve]

EirSports have a perfect stream, but no sound ...

Edit : Overlaid with Radio Foyle sorts it out.

Poor poor Goalkeeping there

[sullanefc]

Silly challenge by Gillespie for his second yellow, but no contact. McGrath the cheat with the dive.

[White Horse]

Silly challenge by Gillespie for his second yellow, but no contact. McGrath the cheat with the dive.

Get up the yard. Stick to the hurling.