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brendy_éire
06/08/2019, 9:28 AM
Enjoyable game in the Brandywell last night.
Waterford were much improved over last week in the league and really put it up to us. A draw at full time was fair, but we bossed extra time. The sending off didn't help matters, obviously.

Four goals for Parkhouse was pretty special, but we'd a bit of sloppy defending for Waterford's goals. Need to improve on that.

Great crowd up from Waterford, even with it being a bank holiday in the south.

Nesta99
06/08/2019, 6:11 PM
It would have helped Waterford in a big way to have a final considering the negativity of recent. Congrats to the League Cup specialists though. It's hard to know whether it'd be a good thing for Dundalk to beat Bohs with all the other committments (especially if we do get a result v Slovan) but a final is a final and if we get there with the 'reserve/u19s' then it will have its benefits. With the cyclical nature of football I dont think anyone should dismiss the opportunity to win some silverware so I dont agree with some of the Dundalk support that feel we could do without these couple of games. There was a suggestion by one or two that we should just withdraw from the competition but for me that is a bad case of forgetting where we have come from not so long ago!!

EatYerGreens
07/08/2019, 10:27 AM
It would have helped Waterford in a big way to have a final considering the negativity of recent. Congrats to the League Cup specialists though. It's hard to know whether it'd be a good thing for Dundalk to beat Bohs with all the other committments (especially if we do get a result v Slovan) but a final is a final and if we get there with the 'reserve/u19s' then it will have its benefits. With the cyclical nature of football I dont think anyone should dismiss the opportunity to win some silverware so I dont agree with some of the Dundalk support that feel we could do without these couple of games. There was a suggestion by one or two that we should just withdraw from the competition but for me that is a bad case of forgetting where we have come from not so long ago!!

There is absolutely no need for Dundalk to withdraw from the competition. You have the biggest squad in the league, and worst case scenario can just play reserves/U19s

My personal view is that if a club withdraws form a tournament for their own benefit then they should be banned from entering it again for the next 2 seasons. The FA should have done it to Manchester United when they pulled out of the FA Cup years back because they were too busy with the World Club Championships. If a club shows disrespect to a major trophy, they shouldn't receive any back in return. How Man U fans would love a good FA Cup run these days

Ezeikial
07/08/2019, 11:11 AM
There is absolutely no need for Dundalk to withdraw from the competition. You have the biggest squad in the league, and worst case scenario can just play reserves/U19s

My personal view is that if a club withdraws form a tournament for their own benefit then they should be banned from entering it again for the next 2 seasons. The FA should have done it to Manchester United when they pulled out of the FA Cup years back because they were too busy with the World Club Championships. If a club shows disrespect to a major trophy, they shouldn't receive any back in return. How Man U fans would love a good FA Cup run these days

I doubt that there is even the remotest prospect of Dundalk withdrawing. It would be both disrespectful and arrogant.

Even if Dundalk overcome the odds and get past Slovan Bratislava the play-off rounds are complete by 29 August. It would be wonderful if we could continue this conversation at the end of August discussing the demands of Dundalks EL group matches from 18 Sept, but sadly I think it improbable

Nesta99
07/08/2019, 1:16 PM
Just in case, iwithdrawing was a notion mooted by a few fans, the club would never consider it. John Gill at the start of the season was asked how last seasons double could be bettered and he said 'win the treble'!

Dalymountrower
15/08/2019, 1:13 PM
Has that postponed outstanding League Cup semi final been confirmed for next Monday?
Surely the two under 19`s teams should be let play it?

seand
15/08/2019, 2:02 PM
Has that postponed outstanding League Cup semi final been confirmed for next Monday?
Surely the two under 19`s teams should be let play it?

Yes, its confirmed for Monday 19th.

Ezeikial
15/08/2019, 2:24 PM
Has that postponed outstanding League Cup semi final been confirmed for next Monday?
Surely the two under 19`s teams should be let play it?

There is nothing to stop either side doing that.

I do hope that Paddy Kirk and Andy Lyons play - at least for the latter stages of the match

Dalymountrower
15/08/2019, 3:04 PM
There is nothing to stop either side doing that.

I do hope that Paddy Kirk and Andy Lyons play - at least for the latter stages of the match

Would have thought your focus would be on getting the right Ref to " officiate"

seand
15/08/2019, 4:06 PM
The penalties have really dried up recently. Just one in six European games. Time to rotate Daniel Kelly back into the team, see if he can have an impact in the general vicinity of the penalty box

marinobohs
15/08/2019, 10:23 PM
The penalties have really dried up recently. Just one in six European games. Time to rotate Daniel Kelly back into the team, see if he can have an impact in the general vicinity of the penalty box
Just wait until after Monday 😁 another late home pen and our fans could do serious improvement to Oriel Park 😎

sbgawa
16/08/2019, 3:40 PM
Just hope kelly doesn't celebrate in front of the bohs fans :)
Basil ! don't mention the war

Dalymountrower
19/08/2019, 11:37 AM
Bohs missing Talbot,Finnerty and probably Cornwall for tonight. Good crowd travelling up.Our third Monday night fixture up there this season
Any team news from Dundalk?

ArFella
19/08/2019, 12:12 PM
Bohs missing Talbot,Finnerty and probably Cornwall for tonight. Good crowd travelling up.Our third Monday night fixture up there this season
Any team news from Dundalk?

Flores, Folan & Benson are all back in training but probably won't feature tonight, think we have a full compliment aside from that. It will be interesting to see if Jarvis is back in the squad after his return to training last week due to an "internal issue". Looking forward to the game, hopefully both teams still have goals left in them after Friday night!

Ezeikial
19/08/2019, 12:13 PM
Bohs missing Talbot,Finnerty and probably Cornwall for tonight. Good crowd travelling up.Our third Monday night fixture up there this season
Any team news from Dundalk?

I expect a good few changes from Friday night - probably Gannon, Boyle, Cleary and Massey to come back in defence, Patrick Hoban, John Mountney and Jamie McGrath might also play.




Team news
Jordan Flores (hip flexor), Stephen Folan (knee) and Robbie Benson (rib) have all resumed training after their respective injuries, but tomorrow is likely to come too soon for them. Everyone else in the squad is fit and we have no suspensions to contend with.

https://www.dundalkfc.com/team-news-vs-bohs/

marinobohs
19/08/2019, 1:35 PM
Just hope kelly doesn't celebrate in front of the bohs fans :)
Basil ! don't mention the war

Just hope he doesn’t have anything to celebrate at all 😁

marinobohs
19/08/2019, 1:40 PM
Bohs missing Talbot,Finnerty and probably Cornwall for tonight. Good crowd travelling up.Our third Monday night fixture up there this season
Any team news from Dundalk?

Would like to see a strong team out tonight as it’s a semi but expect a mixture, especially with a winnable home FAI Cup tie on Friday.
Hopefully 3rd time lucky at Oriel on a Monday night (and no late incidents in/close to/ around the penalty box)
Have Dundalk picked the ref for this game yet ? 😎

Ezeikial
19/08/2019, 1:59 PM
Would like to see a strong team out tonight as it’s a semi but expect a mixture, especially with a winnable home FAI Cup tie on Friday.
Hopefully 3rd time lucky at Oriel on a Monday night (and no late incidents in/close to/ around the penalty box)
Have Dundalk picked the ref for this game yet ? 

We have asked for Paul McLoughlin for this one - if he is still based in Monaghan at least he won't have too far to travel.

Luminous paint currently being used for the penalty box markings to help him with any fouls at the box.

Nesta99
19/08/2019, 4:59 PM
There is something inevitable about controversy at tonights game...

Bohs11
19/08/2019, 5:43 PM
Looking forward Patrick Hoban slipping on a banana skin for tonight's last minute penalty.

marinobohs
19/08/2019, 6:27 PM
We have asked for Paul McLoughlin for this one - if he is still based in Monaghan at least he won't have too far to travel.

Luminous paint currently being used for the penalty box markings to help him with any fouls at the box.

Penalty box markings ? I thought they were made up - or at least very very flexible 😁

Real ale Madrid
19/08/2019, 7:22 PM
Looking forward Patrick Hoban slipping on a banana skin for tonight's last minute penalty.

It will hardly make too much of a difference - he's after bagging a hat trick inside the first 15 mins!

wexfordned
19/08/2019, 7:52 PM
We have asked for Paul McLoughlin for this one - if he is still based in Monaghan at least he won't have too far to travel.

Luminous paint currently being used for the penalty box markings to help him with any fouls at the box.
In dundalk it only has to be around the box so the markings aren't as important as in every other ground. Unfortunately that doesn't matter tonight

kksaints
19/08/2019, 7:55 PM
Can't say I saw this result coming.

pineapple stu
19/08/2019, 7:58 PM
Are you UCD in disguise?!

(Joking aside, we've to play Dundalk twice next week...)

marinobohs
19/08/2019, 8:23 PM
Are you UCD in disguise?!

(Joking aside, we've to play Dundalk twice next week...)
I blame the drunken ole lad in the stand singing "gimme a D" 😁

Bohs11
19/08/2019, 8:39 PM
Quite a few changes tonight, but nowhere near enough to make tonight's defeat acceptable. Fair play to Dundalk, and hopefully we put up a better fight in a few weeks time.

marinobohs
19/08/2019, 8:56 PM
At least it's FT (It was over after 14 mins). Shocking "defending " on what was an unacceptable display by Bohs.
Fair play to Dundalk they smelt blood and finished it off early doors. They have really hit form for the run in.
Hoban definitely "finished" �� but Perth might get another week !
Little, if anything, positive for Bohs to take. Talbot got suspension out of the way and em, that's it ! Need a reaction for Friday.

White Horse
19/08/2019, 9:37 PM
Dundalk were good tonight. Pressing high, working hard, and creating lots of chances. Bohs were poor though; very sloppy, and lethargic. Our most difficult games have been against Bohs this season, so tonight came as a big surprise.

RathfarnhamHoop
19/08/2019, 9:44 PM
Dundalk were good tonight. Pressing high, working hard, and creating lots of chances. Bohs were poor though; very sloppy, and lethargic. Our most difficult games have been against Bohs this season, so tonight came as a big surprise.

So the 7 league games you've drawn or lost weren't your most difficult games but the games that you've won against Bohs were? Interesting take on things.

Ezeikial
19/08/2019, 10:05 PM
So the 7 league games you've drawn or lost weren't your most difficult games but the games that you've won against Bohs were? Interesting take on things.

Bohs have certainly caused us more problems in league games in Oriel Park this season than any other team. Derry City and Sligo Rovers both got draws in Oriel Park, but it's questionable if either deserved it on the balance of the play. Bohs on the other hand were very unlucky on both league visits even if comprehensively beaten in Dalymount in the league and wiped out totally tonight

Dalymountrower
19/08/2019, 10:18 PM
Dundalk 5 goals better than Bohs?,,,Yes.

ToberonaTornado
19/08/2019, 10:22 PM
Looking forward Patrick Hoban slipping on a banana skin for tonight's last minute penalty.

4 goals in the Bohs net and he was sitting back eating a banana with 15 minutes still left on the clock the last time i seen him :rofl:
Any news on the Bohs bus that broke down 6 miles outside of Dundalk? They were the lucky ones :p
Hopefully they at least made it to C'Bellingham for a consolation pint and a hang sangdwitch.

RathfarnhamHoop
19/08/2019, 10:45 PM
Interesting debate about where the league Cup final should be played, luck of the draw for one team to be at home or a neutral venue. Personally think it should be luck of the draw but the ground should meet certain standards to be in the draw and if neither teams ground meets the standards play it at a neural venue that does and is as close to midway between the clubs as possible.

Ezeikial
19/08/2019, 11:02 PM
Interesting debate about where the league Cup final should be played, luck of the draw for one team to be at home or a neutral venue. Personally think it should be luck of the draw but the ground should meet certain standards to be in the draw and if neither teams ground meets the standards play it at a neural venue that does and is as close to midway between the clubs as possible.

The precedent for a draw (transparent or otherwise) is already established as is the fact that the grounds used by both finalists meet licencing criteria - there is probably little to debate about this seasons final.

My personal preference would be for a neutral venue where that is likely to be a financially viable option considering the teams involved

dundalkfc10
19/08/2019, 11:05 PM
Interesting debate about where the league Cup final should be played, luck of the draw for one team to be at home or a neutral venue. Personally think it should be luck of the draw but the ground should meet certain standards to be in the draw and if neither teams ground meets the standards play it at a neural venue that does and is as close to midway between the clubs as possible.

We held it alredy, was fine for the crowd a League Cup final attracts (Derry would prob bring more than Rovers did though)

We dont mind playing it away, won it away to yourselves aswell

bohsmug
19/08/2019, 11:58 PM
Well and truly had our arses handed to us tonight anyway

ger121
20/08/2019, 12:18 AM
That was painful. After Friday I had some hope going up there but we got well and truly turned over. Back to the League and Cup so.

Charlie Darwin
20/08/2019, 12:28 AM
Bohs v Longford has a big act to follow now - 18 goals in two games!

White Horse
20/08/2019, 9:19 AM
My personal preference would be for a neutral venue where that is likely to be a financially viable option considering the teams involved

I would prefer a neutral venue for a final, but that would probable mean a venue in Dublin. Would sufficient numbers travel for it? In this case, I think they would.

brendy_éire
20/08/2019, 9:26 AM
I would prefer a neutral venue for a final, but that would probable mean a venue in Dublin. Would sufficient numbers travel for it? In this case, I think they would.

Would rather have it as a two-legged affair, home and away.
I don't think you'd get the crowd for a neutral venue. Where would Derry-Dundalk be held, Sligo or Monaghan?
It was ourselves and Cobh last year, hold the final in Galway or Athlone? I don't think you'd get as big a crowd.

Really hoping for a home draw for this one, as I've a wedding on the scheduled date of 14th September (the groom is hoping the same). If we're home, it'll be moved, as Stute are playing at the Brandy that day.

PartySaint
20/08/2019, 9:29 AM
Where would Derry-Dundalk be held,


Belfast....

seand
20/08/2019, 9:52 AM
Surely it should be played in the jurisdiction of the organising body? ;-)

marinobohs
20/08/2019, 9:53 AM
Would rather have it as a two-legged affair, home and away.
I don't think you'd get the crowd for a neutral venue. Where would Derry-Dundalk be held, Sligo or Monaghan?
It was ourselves and Cobh last year, hold the final in Galway or Athlone? I don't think you'd get as big a crowd.

Really hoping for a home draw for this one, as I've a wedding on the scheduled date of 14th September (the groom is hoping the same). If we're home, it'll be moved, as Stute are playing at the Brandy that day.

I thought this was by way of toss of a coin for 'home' advantage ? Bit harsh for the loser (of the toss) but probably more sensible than dragging both clubs to Dublin (cant think of a viable neutral alternative). should be a decent final, Derry have a great recent record in League cup and will be eager to ensure they remain the only club to have won a domestic treble ;) and Dundalk seem to hitting top gear at the right time.

Ezeikial
20/08/2019, 10:15 AM
Really hoping for a home draw for this one, as I've a wedding on the scheduled date of 14th September (the groom is hoping the same). If we're home, it'll be moved, as Stute are playing at the Brandy that day.

I wonder could the lack of availability of the Brandywell on 14 Sept have any impact on the *cough* coin toss?

sidewayspasser
20/08/2019, 10:23 AM
As Derry had home advantage last year, I think the "coin toss" will favour Dundalk anyway this year. Add that to the unavailability of the Brandywell on the date of the final, and I'd say it's a safe bet to assume the final will be in Dundalk.

Charlie Darwin
20/08/2019, 10:36 AM
Would rather have it as a two-legged affair, home and away.
I don't think you'd get the crowd for a neutral venue. Where would Derry-Dundalk be held, Sligo or Monaghan?
It was ourselves and Cobh last year, hold the final in Galway or Athlone? I don't think you'd get as big a crowd.

Really hoping for a home draw for this one, as I've a wedding on the scheduled date of 14th September (the groom is hoping the same). If we're home, it'll be moved, as Stute are playing at the Brandy that day.
They'd hardly move the game to accommodate another team's league game?

dundalkfc10
20/08/2019, 10:42 AM
Would rather have it as a two-legged affair, home and away.
I don't think you'd get the crowd for a neutral venue. Where would Derry-Dundalk be held, Sligo or Monaghan?
It was ourselves and Cobh last year, hold the final in Galway or Athlone? I don't think you'd get as big a crowd.

Really hoping for a home draw for this one, as I've a wedding on the scheduled date of 14th September (the groom is hoping the same). If we're home, it'll be moved, as Stute are playing at the Brandy that day.

So its going to be in Oriel

brendy_éire
20/08/2019, 11:12 AM
They'd hardly move the game to accommodate another team's league game?

They didn't last year, and the LC final was moved to the Sunday.

joey B
20/08/2019, 11:20 AM
Final in the Brandywell!