Michael Obafemi F Plymouth Argyle (loan from Burnley) b.2000

[pineapple stu]

Yeah, it's certainly a thought that occurred to me too.

He can play a bit of ball because you don't fluke the run he went on in the first half of the year. But he's not started this season well and I'm sure there's plenty of players who've fallen away after a good run before

[Razors left peg]

Yeah, it's certainly a thought that occurred to me too.

He can play a bit of ball because you don't fluke the run he went on in the first half of the year. But he's not started this season well and I'm sure there's plenty of players who've fallen away after a good run before


Michael Ricketts always springs to mind when I think about a 1 season wonder

[Insidetherock]

Look for the positives.. he might come to the two NL games to put himself in the shop window and play a blinder

[Eirambler]

Could also be a situation where Russell Martin asks Kenny not to pick him until he gets himself sorted though.

[Razors left peg]

Could also be a situation where Russell Martin asks Kenny not to pick him until he gets himself sorted though.

Hes not injured so I dont think that will or should happen

[Diggs246]

Could also be a situation where Russell Martin asks Kenny not to pick him until he gets himself sorted though.

No he will want him getting game time with us, while mentaining disipline within his up set up.

Unfortunately his attitude looks like it will be his waterloo

[Diggs246]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0916/1323789-swansea-boss-disappointed-by-kenny-comments-on-obafemi/

I'm not sure what to make of this.
Michael is a bell end thats for certain
I guess kemny knows that and is protecting him

[samhaydenjr]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2022/0916/1323789-swansea-boss-disappointed-by-kenny-comments-on-obafemi/

I'm not sure what to make of this.
Michael is a bell end thats for certain
I guess kemny knows that and is protecting him

I think that's really unfair on the lad. I think he could do with filtering his thoughts a bit better, based on what we've seen, but that's hardly a capital offence. I actually think Kenny could also do with a bit of filtering after throwing in that "two or three sides to every story" line. I'm sure he was asked about it but he should have just said that it was something to be sorted out between Obafemi and his club manager and didn't really affect Michael's place in the Ireland camp. Now Kenny may just have had a negative affect on Obafemi's immediate career prospects.

[nigel-harps1954]

Now Kenny may just have had a negative affect on Obafemi's immediate career prospects.

That's a bit of a stretch..

[tommy_c12000]

Mick O back on bench today, Swansea as per usual are struggling to threaten. 0-0 at HT, expect Mick to return in second half.

No doubt about it Obafemi is a bit of a clown, has shown form at Southampton and Swansea. Scores a few championship goals and suddenly thinks he’s Pele, agent whispers in his ears and he was likely annoyed when Burnley move fell through. However, Russel Martin has some form with poor man management skills (Benda their current first choice keeper is an example) reading through their forum, they’re not exactly on Martin’s side. Trying to exert his authority old school at a time when Swansea are in a bit of disarray. Probably he could have handled it with a bit more diplomacy. Anyways he’s back in squad today, hopefully Mick will mature a bit and refocus, good talent

[nigel-harps1954]

3-0 win and Obafemi came on for the final couple of minutes.

[Diggs246]

I think that's really unfair on the lad. I think he could do with filtering his thoughts a bit better, based on what we've seen, but that's hardly a capital offence. I actually think Kenny could also do with a bit of filtering after throwing in that "two or three sides to every story" line. I'm sure he was asked about it but he should have just said that it was something to be sorted out between Obafemi and his club manager and didn't really affect Michael's place in the Ireland camp. Now Kenny may just have had a negative affect on Obafemi's immediate career prospects.

Unfortunately it is fair. Way too many managers have cited his poor attitude

[samhaydenjr]

Unfortunately it is fair. Way too many managers have cited his poor attitude

OK, I will at this point ask you to find instances of managers citing an attitude problem that goes beyond having a tendency to moan a bit when he doesn't get his way

[sadloserkid]

I'm very much pro-Obafemi but moaning when you don't get your own way is absolutely an attitude problem by any definition.

[Diggs246]

OK, I will at this point ask you to find instances of managers citing an attitude problem that goes beyond having a tendency to moan a bit when he doesn't get his way

www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/he-needs-better-michael-obafemi-25418357.amp (http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/he-needs-better-michael-obafemi-25418357.amp)

https://www.the42.ie/southampton-obafemi-criticism-4913319-Nov2019/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punditarena.com/football/oisinmcqueirns2758/michael-obafemi-ireland/%3famp

[samhaydenjr]

Appreciate that Diggs. And while the two first links do point to something a little more than having a moan, the third one is an example of that. Even in the other stories, I don't think the criticisms amount to enough to enough to call him a bell end. It's a little hard to put a finger on what they're referring to - both managers seem to refer to his professionalism away from the club, but Russell Martin specifically notes that it's not something serious and just compares him to other players, who apparently put in more work away from the training ground and makes a reference to timekeeping. This seems to match up with Hassenhuttl, who seems to want him to work harder because he can see him having a big future if he does. I think Hassenhuttl later praised Obafemi's work on the training ground. So perhaps Oba needs to work a bit harder when he's on his own, particularly as I think he has a body type that needs a lot of work to maintain the required level of fitness. But I think he showed again last night what he can do, even if he didn't change the game like he did in the earlier tie

[Diggs246]

Appreciate that Diggs. And while the two first links do point to something a little more than having a moan, the third one is an example of that. Even in the other stories, I don't think the criticisms amount to enough to enough to call him a bell end. It's a little hard to put a finger on what they're referring to - both managers seem to refer to his professionalism away from the club, but Russell Martin specifically notes that it's not something serious and just compares him to other players, who apparently put in more work away from the training ground and makes a reference to timekeeping. This seems to match up with Hassenhuttl, who seems to want him to work harder because he can see him having a big future if he does. I think Hassenhuttl later praised Obafemi's work on the training ground. So perhaps Oba needs to work a bit harder when he's on his own, particularly as I think he has a body type that needs a lot of work to maintain the required level of fitness. But I think he showed again last night what he can do, even if he didn't change the game like he did in the earlier tie

Fair enough maybe bell end was ott
But he is defo a tulip no?

[Diggs246]

looks to have scored the winner today. he is our best striker by a mile
he just needs to be an adult and take the hits life throws at u

[seanfhear]

looks to have scored the winner today. he is our best striker by a mile
he just needs to be an adult and take the hits life throws at u
So do I ~ ~ And everybody else if possible.

[samhaydenjr]

Fair enough maybe bell end was ott
But he is defo a tulip no?


looks to have scored the winner today. he is our best striker by a mile
he just needs to be an adult and take the hits life throws at u

Not entirely sure how bad being a tulip is but, yeah, sure why not? Great to see him scoring for his club again - I'm going to call it at this point, as long as he stays fit (which unfortunately for him is far from certain - he was even struggling against Ukraine), he will top Niall Quinn's mark. He's the one player in the squad seems able to make things happen around the penalty area consistently. Apart from his two awesome goals and one awesome assist, he started the move that led to our best chance in the Ukraine defeat, it was his run from halfway that led to the corner we scored from against Scotland and of course he set up the Parrott miss, where he was able to outrun the Scottish defense... with the ball at his feet. One of the big problems with us under Kenny is that we often seem toothless in attack, particularly against well-organized defenses - Obafemi has eased that issue somewhat.

[Insidetherock]

Gotta love the Championship.. few weeks ago Swansea were second last.. now up to the play offs positions

[Snapshot]

Gotta love the Championship.. few weeks ago Swansea were second last.. now up to the play offs positions
Why I love the Championship too.

No EPL hype: nirvana.
Fewer massive egos: hallelujah.
More physical: bring it on.
Hoofathon City? I'm of agricultural stock.
More organic: no VAR.
Play-offs: all-or-nothing ding-dongs.
Managers: P45 specialists.
Special bonus: Irish everywhere, some with the accent.
But there's more: Return of the Deserter?

[joey B]

Just grabbed a goal,looked good today albeit against 10 men,but looks strong and hungry….

[JR89]

Should have had more than the one today. His all round play has improved a lot this year.

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[Diggs246]

He reminds me of Romario
Not quite as good!!. But his finishing style

[Demesne Lad]

Swansea City manager Russell Martin admitted on Thursday afternoon that Michael Obafemi's fitness had significantly improved in the last week. Obafemi was pictured in Swansea's training session on Thursday. "He's back on the grass," said Martin of the frontman. "He's in a much better place than he was, physically. We've got to build him up and get him properly fit. ... His data has been really good this week compared to where it was last week, there's been a big jump. He looks in a much better place. It's about how he trusts his body and where he's at in the stage of rehab." (Wales Online). Obafemi was not included in the squad for the away game at Coventry (17 Dec).

[pineapple stu]

Not in the squad tonight as Swansea win 4-0 against Watford, Swansea's first league win since October. PunditArena last week said (https://punditarena.com/football/james-fenton/michael-obafemi-swansea-boss-scathing/) he was expected to play a full part in the festive period, but obviously that hasn't happened. He may still be lacking match fitness, but his manager's comments in the article aren't encouraging in general -


Michael hasn’t done well enough,” said Martin. “He had a great end to last season. He’s not given us anywhere near enough this season, he knows my thoughts on that. I think we’ll have to wait and see (on potential January interest).

“You take a step forward and then two steps back. He knows my thoughts on it. We’ve had really honest chats."

3 goals in 19 is a disappointing return given his strong form between Feb and June. You'd imagine he's a guy at a point where his career could easily go one of two quite different ways from here.

[Demesne Lad]

A rather ominous (for Obafemi and his agent - and Stephen Kenny) comparison between Obafemi and Liam Cullen, in the Swansea manager's post-match comments.

"Joel Piroe actually said to me this week 'Liam Cullen is good for me'," revealed Martin. "I think you can see why and you can understand why. They have a really nice connection already and hopefully they can keep on building that........He deserves his chance on the pitch because he's come on and had an impact in the last couple of games. "It's about his behaviour every day. He's all in. He trains so hard and leaves nothing on the pitch. ..... It's been really important to know you have people who are willing to go through a bit of pain for you."

Commenting on Obafemi, who was left out of the squad, Martin said: “The relationship needs to be reciprocal. We give the players everything we possibly can and we still wonder if that’s enough. “But energy is not limitless, it is not boundless. At some point it needs to be reciprocal and at some point it’s better investing it in people who really want it.” (Wales Online, 31 Dec).

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

That doesn't sound good at all. The lad needs a good shake. Thought he'd turned a corner but it doesn't look like it. Will end up a wasted talent along with Connolly if he doesn't cop on.

[Demesne Lad]

That doesn't sound good at all. The lad needs a good shake. Thought he'd turned a corner but it doesn't look like it. Will end up a wasted talent along with Connolly if he doesn't cop on.

It doesn't, does it? Swansea's interest in Ogbene makes sense if Obafemi is seen as on his way out, sooner or later.

[JR89]

Swansea owners probably shouting at Martin to STFU talking down an asset they're hoping to sell the week the transfer window opens.

[Eirambler]

I suppose the big difference between Obafemi and Connolly is that Obafemi is a genuine goalscorer and will be given more rope as his kind of player is always in demand. Obviously he won't get an infinite number of chances all the same, but someone will take a chance on him at a decent level if Swansea want him out.

Connolly isn't a great finisher and his game is more about working hard to make chances, which means with his apparent attitude issues he's going to be more expendable and sooner if he doesn't have a proper reset in 2023.

[tommy_c12000]

Mick has shown consistently poor attitude throughout his career. Let’s see if Burnley reignite their interest, certainly Swans more open to selling in this window you’d imagine

[liamoo11]

Mick has shown consistently poor attitude throughout his career. Let’s see if Burnley reignite their interest, certainly Swans more open to selling in this window you’d imagine

Swansea messed him about in August should have taken the 8 or 10 million they clearly were willing to sell just wanted to get extra from Burnley. Cooper seems to talk alot to the press unnecessarily about players which really is disrespectful and can't help the relationships with the players.

Hopefully moves on in Jan and Swansea get close to the money they would have got in August.

[tommy_c12000]

Martin? Problem for Mick is that he has shown form at Southampton too for being unprofessional. And the Irish saga too. He’s clearly has an attitude problem that’s not improving as he ages. Hopefully he can get a move and stops throwing his toys out of the pram

[pineapple stu]

Not in the squad again today, so it looks like the January transfer window could be a big one for him...

[Razors left peg]

Looks like he could be on his way to Burnley if the internet is to be believed today. Would be brilliant move for him.

[Diggs246]

Looks like he could be on his way to Burnley if the internet is to be believed today. Would be brilliant move for him.

Komapmy wont take is cr*p so i would say he has one chance and one chance only with him

[Diggs246]

Not even on the bench today for the FA cup
He is as good as gone if anyone in the championship wants him
If he wasn't a baby he would be a premier league player

[pineapple stu]

Do Burnley really need him I wonder? Top scorers in the division by a distance (52 v 44), 14 points clear of third, 10 league wins in 11, goals coming from all around the team so they're not reliant on one forward and hoping he doesn't get injured.

Jan-May Obafemi would of course be an addition, but Aug-Dec Obafemi could be like Asprilla signing for Newcastle. Just not sure if it's worth the risk for them.

Time will tell I guess.

[CraftyToePoke]

Do Burnley really need him I wonder?

Well for his sake I hope they do, he's heavily invested here & it'll be a hard lesson if they aren't. He's taking some criticism for how he has gone about it but Jason Knight could do with having his agent maybe.

[Diggs246]

Do Burnley really need him I wonder? Top scorers in the division by a distance (52 v 44), 14 points clear of third, 10 league wins in 11, goals coming from all around the team so they're not reliant on one forward and hoping he doesn't get injured.

Jan-May Obafemi would of course be an addition, but Aug-Dec Obafemi could be like Asprilla signing for Newcastle. Just not sure if it's worth the risk for them.

Time will tell I guess.

Here's one. Do Southampton need him?!

[JR89]

Well for his sake I hope they do, he's heavily invested here & it'll be a hard lesson if they aren't. He's taking some criticism for how he has gone about it but Jason Knight could do with having his agent maybe.

And if he put the head down and worked hard rather than throw the toys out of the pram when the move didn't happen he might have had better offers come January or in the summer. Now we're wondering if Burnley would still even have interest in him at this stage.

[tetsujin1979]

Wout Weghorst linked with a move to United today, might help Obafemi's move to Burnley through

[seanfhear]

Wout Weghorst linked with a move to United today, might help Obafemi's move to Burnley through
Who is United ?

[John83]

Manchester. They're scrounging around for cover for Martial since Ronaldo exploded.

[paul_oshea]

Sad to think that the one player who looks to have the ability out of anyone talked about or seen in the last few years just doesn't have the attitude to match. Maybe just a sign of the type of character(s) being produced nowadays.

[JR89]

Don't think Swansea are gonna get much more Obafemi. He hasn't brought his form from the start of the year into this season, his contract is running down, and he made it very clear in August that he wants out of Swansea.

They can play hardball and let him sit in the stands till the summer but will be screwing themselves more than Obafemi.

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[yurt]

Would expect Swansea to hold out until deadline day and hope they get the highest price possible. Can't see anyone paying much more than 3m for him.

[pineapple stu]

That'll fairly backfire if Burnley land someone else though?