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Eminence Grise
15/11/2018, 10:27 AM
Usually embargoes are set by PR firms or representative, not the media - at least as I understand them. They're also entirely voluntary, and no media outlet is under any obligation to respect them. Any PR firm or rep that tries to make life awkward for a journo who does break an embargo is going to get short shrift, and rightly so.
tetsujin1979
15/11/2018, 10:42 AM
They've been respected by the media for as long as I can remember. No paper or journalist will release quotes from the embargoed stories until they are published
Diggs246
15/11/2018, 10:55 AM
They've been respected by the media for as long as I can remember. No paper or journalist will release quotes from the embargoed stories until they are published

Is there a proper journalist or media outlet thats running with something soon?
Stuttgart88
15/11/2018, 11:10 AM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/a-simple-twist-of-family-fate-leads-enthusiastic-robinson-back-to-the-old-country-37530498.html

This is a great interview with Callum Robinson. I posted it here rather than in his own thread, just to illustrate how personal national identity is and why I think we shouldn't judge players who play underage in one country largely for convenience. Robinson played underage for England but always wanted to play for Ireland and bureaucracy got in the way.

I found it interesting that Alan Browne got involved, but not by contacting the FAI but by contacting a journalist.

And did anyone read the story this week about a Scots born rugby player who moved south to play for Newcastle, qualified after 3 years of residence to play for England, got called up by Eddie Jones - and I think but must check, even making the subs bench in one game - but never made a senior appearance, and is now back with Scotland? He told Gregor Townsend on his call up that he wasn't really committed to England anyway and always preferred Scotland! What an utter t0sser.

Anyway, Kelvin Davies at Southampton says Obafemi would be great for us (also today's Indo online).
TrapAPony
15/11/2018, 1:32 PM
Obafemi commits to Ireland. What in the name of God has MON been talking about these past few days. He is some spoofer.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12020/11554890/michael-obafemi-commits-to-republic-of-ireland-ahead-of-england-and-nigeria
zero
15/11/2018, 1:39 PM
Fair play to him. Welcome Michael!
IsMiseSean
15/11/2018, 1:40 PM
If this is true - MON hung the lad out to dry yesterday.
A quick search on twitter and the abuse directed towards the lad was ignorant.
Diggs246
15/11/2018, 1:40 PM
Obafemi commits to Ireland. What in the name of God has MON been talking about these past few days. He is some spoofer.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/12020/11554890/michael-obafemi-commits-to-republic-of-ireland-ahead-of-england-and-nigeria

This is outrageous. Mon has lost control matter how you look at this
CraftyToePoke
15/11/2018, 1:42 PM
Could O'Neill have handled this any more clumsily than this ?
The lad has had to come out with a statement to avoid boos on his debut, for his country.
Great stuff Martin, work to be proud of.
Diggs246
15/11/2018, 1:56 PM
This is outrageous. Mon has lost control matter how you look at this

They say in China they have the same word for "crisis and opportunity.... should Mark O'Toole not be involved in the Senoir set up. Assistant Manager or the likes
tetsujin1979
15/11/2018, 1:58 PM
so the question now is...does he go to Denmark?
SkStu
15/11/2018, 1:59 PM
No, they broke the embargo. That's not going to sit well with the established press corps, and could lead to them being refused press credentials for the next event

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Diggs246
15/11/2018, 2:03 PM
so the question now is...does he go to Denmark?

If MON picks him of course he goes. The agents statement is more than clear and I might add he has changed his "pinned header on twitter " from making his premier league debut. To a new pinned header of his first training session with the Irish team. His biggest danger to not going to Denmark is MON ego.
geysir
15/11/2018, 3:19 PM
Good news, Did MON want him to declare his intent before considering him for this game against the North?

Do we call him Mick, or is it too soon?
Olé Olé
15/11/2018, 3:21 PM
Dreadful handling of the whole thing by O'Neill.

Great to see this. It is a great example also for other players of Nigerian backgrounds that have been born or lived in Ireland. The likes of Okoflex will hopefully follow suit.
tetsujin1979
15/11/2018, 3:23 PM
Other than what was said in press conferences, we really don't know what O'Neill did. It could have been him that convinced Obafemi to confirm his allegiance, it could have been Keane, could have been Mohan.
Diggs246
15/11/2018, 3:30 PM
Do we call him Mick, or is it too soon?[/QUOTE]

I Like Mickey O'B
Diggs246
15/11/2018, 3:55 PM
on a lighter note, after all this can you imagine if he was totally sh*t!
Stuttgart88
15/11/2018, 4:45 PM
That's my big fear!
osarusan
15/11/2018, 5:16 PM
Maybe I've missed something - what exactly is all the criticism of O'Neill for?

What is it that he did or didn't do?
Diggs246
15/11/2018, 5:27 PM
Maybe I've missed something - what exactly is all the criticism of O'Neill for?

What is it that he did or didn't do?

He poorly managed the situation. Even with the best will in the world(which there isnt) he alienated the situation so the players agent had to confirm his commitment. If he had the correct level of communication with the player than Mon makes the statement to the media.
osarusan
15/11/2018, 5:58 PM
As far as I can see, when there was talk of Obafemi switching, O'Neill was asked and just gave a fairly generic 'it's his decision, we won't pressure him' comment.

Is there any more to it than that?

If that's all it is, I don't think there is much wrong with it.
Kingdom
15/11/2018, 6:07 PM
They say in China they have the same word for "crisis and opportunity.... should Mark O'Toole not be involved in the Senoir set up. Assistant Manager or the likes

Crisitunity!!

I'm seriously disappointed in this site that I'm the first one to reply with that, seriously lads.
Diggs246
15/11/2018, 6:27 PM
As far as I can see, when there was talk of Obafemi switching, O'Neill was asked and just gave a fairly generic 'it's his decision, we won't pressure him' comment.

Is there any more to it than that?

If that's all it is, I don't think there is much wrong with it.

Mon said he wont be going to Denmark due to his commitment relating to his decision on his international future
Diggs246
15/11/2018, 6:31 PM
Crisitunity!!

I'm seriously disappointed in this site that I'm the first one to reply with that, seriously lads.

Crisitunity as a word i like...

But mark O' toole reputation isnt too shabby
tetsujin1979
15/11/2018, 8:46 PM
And so, after all that...he didn't play
TrapAPony
15/11/2018, 9:10 PM
And so, after all that...he didn't play

He made O'Neill look like a fool earlier today when he came out and declared for Ireland. MON is a vindictive ***** so naturally wasn't going to give Obafemi a run out.
tetsujin1979
15/11/2018, 9:21 PM
He's going to Denmark
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IsMiseSean
15/11/2018, 9:47 PM
After sitting through that 90 minutes - the lad still might do a runner. Could you blame him....
Diggs246
15/11/2018, 9:50 PM
After sitting through that 90 minutes - the lad still might do a runner. Could you blame him....

Come on Sean your bigger than that. We might be down but were not out
IsMiseSean
15/11/2018, 9:54 PM
Come on Sean your bigger than that. We might be down but were not out

I'm only 5'6.
Diggs246
15/11/2018, 10:19 PM
https://youtu.be/IRaTsrmzhPI
backstothewall
19/11/2018, 2:02 PM
So is he available tonight?
DeLorean
19/11/2018, 2:12 PM
So is he available tonight?

Yes, he travelled with the squad.
backstothewall
19/11/2018, 2:21 PM
He should start in that case. There's little else to be gained from this.
CraftyToePoke
19/11/2018, 2:37 PM
He should start in that case. There's little else to be gained from this.

Some involvement, will do me. Just get one little fragment, one aspect correct, MON.
tetsujin1979
19/11/2018, 8:24 PM
comes on for his debut, mercifully ending the nationality debate
also, first player for play for Ireland who was born this century.
backstothewall
19/11/2018, 8:37 PM
Michael O'Bafemi from now on then?
tetsujin1979
19/11/2018, 8:56 PM
His mother was at the game too
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irishfan86
19/11/2018, 9:41 PM
Nice to see the Obafemi situation concluded.

It was a tough match for a young forward to make his debut but I thought he showed a lot of intelligence and strength with some of his hold up play. Clearly still a raw prospect but I’m hopeful he’ll continue to progress.

Given Southampton’s dire situation hopefully he’ll learn to feed off scraps on the counterattack and carry that experience over to our cause.
dr_peepee
19/11/2018, 9:47 PM
He’s gonna be the new Wavey Davey Connolly!!!!
samhaydenjr
19/11/2018, 9:55 PM
Well this is a big positive out of tonight - fair play to him for committing to us without any fuss (on his part anyway - I know we were all on tenterhooks). Of all the multiple-nationality young players we've been talking about, on paper we he's the one who would have had most justification in taking the time to consider his options, so for him to have made this decision already is much appreciated. Let's hope he continues his progress and is joined by Aaron Connolly and others soon
dr_peepee
19/11/2018, 10:24 PM
He’s gonna be the new Wavey Davey Connolly!!!!

So we’re clear, I was a big fan of Dave Connolly...I’m calibrating my optimism. A prolific Championship level scorer with potential to do well in a given environment. It’s not too unrealistic to wish for.
tetsujin1979
19/11/2018, 11:22 PM
nobody is a bigger fan of Connolly than theworm.
CraftyToePoke
19/11/2018, 11:25 PM
There won't be too many clearer runways to a Prem side than he has at Southampton at the moment, with Long having his ongoing difficulties, until they go shopping in January anyway. Big two months for him, all eyes on him, for a first goal now and to hopefully kick on.
Olé Olé
20/11/2018, 5:24 AM
Proud Obafemi 'never had any doubts' about representing Ireland https://the42.ie/4348604

Really liking this kid. Hope he's the first of many young lads around that age that come through over the next while and look forward to seeing him for years to come.
TrapAPony
20/11/2018, 11:28 AM
Proud Obafemi 'never had any doubts' about representing Ireland https://the42.ie/4348604

Yet, Martin O'Neill was telling us that Obafemi was deliberating over who to play for. :mad:
SkStu
20/11/2018, 1:07 PM
Yet, Martin O'Neill was telling us that Obafemi was deliberating over who to play for. :mad:

It just shows how much of a complete spoofer he is.
DeLorean
20/11/2018, 1:46 PM
Even by spoofer measures, it seems completely bizarre he couldn't have just asked him before engaging with the media.
Kingdom
20/11/2018, 2:22 PM
So we’re clear, I was a big fan of Dave Connolly...I’m calibrating my optimism. A prolific Championship level scorer with potential to do well in a given environment. It’s not too unrealistic to wish for.

I was a fan of David Connolly. Robbie Keane was unfortunate for him, as was Don Givens.