Michael Obafemi F Plymouth Argyle (loan from Burnley) b.2000

[third policeman]

Redmond has played for Eng against Germany and actually was on the bench for a competitive game, but was an unused sub. Its not right that he lines up for us.

While we’re on the subject, I assume Mark Noble is still eligible. Even he must now realise he’s not going to get an England cap.

[Diggs246]

While we’re on the subject, I assume Mark Noble is still eligible. Even he must now realise he’s not going to get an England cap.

Yep he sure is, but he has said no and he is in his 30s now

[rebelmusic]

100% agree. You wear the jersey your gone

10,000% agree. Most people have voiced that the rules need to change re: Rice and playing a friendly. Redmond played for England in a friendly against Germany...he chose his nationality and all power to him - but now Mr.Redmond, stay there please.

[gastric]

Sorry boys, but I hope he comes on board as we are weak on the right side of midfield.
https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/international-soccer/southampton-star-redmond-next-on-mick-mccarthys-ireland-recruitment-drive-37657608.html

[Cathalsmart]

Not just because I think he would add a lot to our team but also because I’d like to stick to fingers at England and the FA after what those snakes did without Rice. If they want to give it they got to take it also.

[Olé Olé]

John Fallon stating that "it's understood Redmond is amenable to a discussion" doesn't provide much base to this article.

[geysir]

100% agree. I couldn’t care less as long as the player can potentially contribute positively to our national team. The staunch Republican attitude of many supporters bemuses me. We’re living in a much changed world and have an increasingly finite pool of players at international level. Given this paucity of talent, no stone should be left unturned in enquiring about players, without completely going down on both knees of course In general I agree, except for the depiction of being staunch republican. I’d see it more as petit nationalism. I heard Gary Breen on the radio spout nonsense (in an english accent) that Redmond wasn’t irish. Quite possibly in the early parts of the 20C, there was a man named Breen who had good reason to question the national credentials of a man named Redmond. It sounded a tad ironic and fanatic to hear it from Breen on Talksport. Also Kilbane is extreme in his opinions vis a vis Rice and I’d presume it would be same re Redmond. I say let the manager do what he sees is his job and we observe and appraise the outcomes.

[TrapAPony]

In general I agree, except for the depiction of being staunch republican. I’d see it more as petit nationalism. I heard Gary Breen on the radio spout nonsense (in an english accent) that Redmond wasn’t irish. Quite possibly in the early parts of the 20C, there was a man named Breen who had good reason to question the national credentials of a man named Redmond. It sounded a tad ironic and fanatic to hear it from Breen on Talksport. Also Kilbane is extreme in his opinions vis a vis Rice and I’d presume it would be same re Redmond. I say let the manager do what he sees is his job and we observe and appraise the outcomes.

I'd rather hear someone like Aldridge, Townsend or Houghton give an opinion on the eligibility issue than someone who is tunnel visioned like Kilbane or Breen tbh.

[Diggs246]

The other thing is, all southgate has to do is call Redmond and say you might still be in my plans son and i think that will be that( even if it's bull)

[jbyrne]

I'd rather hear someone like Aldridge, Townsend or Houghton give an opinion on the eligibility issue than someone who is tunnel visioned like Kilbane or Breen tbh.

kilbane and breen want to see comittment thats based on a genuine connection to us and not based on playing for us being a good career move. reasonable stance imo

[TrapAPony]

kilbane and breen want to see comittment thats based on a genuine connection to us and not based on playing for us being a good career move. reasonable stance imo

Mick McCarthy won't care about their opinion though. Nathan Redmond's mother is Irish (since he is the man in question) which is a very reasonable connection. In any case, it is all very hypocritical for a men born in Preston or London with English accents to question the Irishness of a man born in Birmingham.

[Diggs246]

Mick McCarthy won't care about their opinion though. Nathan Redmond's mother is Irish (since he is the man in question) which is a very reasonable connection. In any case, it is all very hypocritical for a men born in Preston or London with English accents to question the Irishness of a man born in Birmingham.

I think they are refering to the fact that he played for the English national team already

[jbyrne]

In any case, it is all very hypocritical for a men born in Preston or London with English accents to question the Irishness of a man born in Birmingham.

both of whom jumped at the chance to play for us and didnt think for a second about who they wanted to play for.

didnt redmond decline previous attempts to declare for us? if he declares for us now its nothing more than a career move.

[irishfan86]

Misses out today through injury.

[geysir]

kilbane and breen want to see comittment thats based on a genuine connection to us and not based on playing for us being a good career move. reasonable stance imo That’s not what Breen actually said, Breen said that Redmond was not even Irish. Both Breen and Kilbane have set themselves up as arbitrers of not only who is Irish enough to play for Ireland, but who of the diaspora is actually Irish.
It is disingenuos for you to claim that Breen’s motivation was about it being a good career move for Redmond. As of now, I very much doubt that Breen has the foggiest notion of young Redmond’s intentions in regards to a posssible proposal to declare for the country of his mother.

[Diggs246]

That’s not what Breen actually said, Breen said that Redmond was not even Irish. Both Breen and Kilbane have set themselves up as arbitrers of not only who is Irish enough to play for Ireland, but who of the diaspora is actually Irish.
It is disingenuos for you to claim that Breen’s motivation was about it being a good career move for Redmond. As of now, I very much doubt that Breen has the foggiest notion of young Redmond’s intentions in regards to a posssible proposal to declare for the country of his mother.

The man has played for the Senior English national team. He also was on the bench for a competitive game for England. He was actively tried to be recruited by the FAI while he was with Norwich in the Championship and he said no thanks im waiting for the call from England. As they say if you dilute the mi-wadi too much you might get more drink, but it will taste like ****

[jbyrne]

It is disingenuos for you to claim that Breen’s motivation was about it being a good career move for Redmond.

i heard the breen interview and thats exactly what he was saying

[liamoo11]

The man has played for the Senior English national team. He also was on the bench for a competitive game for England. He was actively tried to be recruited by the FAI while he was with Norwich in the Championship and he said no thanks im waiting for the call from England. As they say if you dilute the mi-wadi too much you might get more drink, but it will taste like ****

That mi-wadi line always gives me a guilty laugh cause I'm always sure someone will disapprove cause it sounds borderline racist in this kinda context(obviously not the intention)its a great phrase though

[The Fly]

I disagree. I am of the view that the manager goes out and gets the best squad of players that are available to him. Re Redmond himself he is a good player and I would have him no problem. Thiago Motta, Nacer Chadli, Wilfried Zaha, Jermaine Jones, Diego Costa are just some names who have played for an International side before jumping to another. Sure even Alex Bruce did it. Every country uses the rules available to them to better their side.


100% agree. I couldn’t care less as long as the player can potentially contribute positively to our national team. The staunch Republican attitude of many supporters bemuses me. We’re living in a much changed world and have an increasingly finite pool of players at international level. Given this paucity of talent, no stone should be left unturned in enquiring about players, without completely going down on both knees of course

Apologies for the late reply.

The reason I wouldn't be keen on Redmond playing for us has nothing to do with a 'staunch Republican attitude'. It's due to the fact that he has already played for the England senior team. Nothing more, nothing less.

If McCarthy convinces him to throw his lot in with us then I'd hope he gives his all and performs well, just like I do with every other player regardless of their place of birth. That doesn't mean I agree with it in principle however.

[Olé Olé]

Another thing that irks me on the Redmond thing is the timing of it. He was out of form last season and not on the radar for the England senior side as a result. He's hitting form now and we have a new manager who appears to be willing to be a bit more aggressive than the last in recruiting these lads. Doesn't this provide Redmond and his agent with the best opportunity possible to remind Southgate he has options?

[Diggs246]

Another thing that irks me on the Redmond thing is the timing of it. He was out of form last season and not on the radar for the England senior side as a result. He's hitting form now and we have a new manager who appears to be willing to be a bit more aggressive than the last in recruiting these lads. Doesn't this provide Redmond and his agent with the best opportunity possible to remind Southgate he has options?

Yep. One call from Southgate and this is all over. If Southgate said to him there was a 20% chance of being in his plans Redmond drops us like a hot rag.

[Cathalsmart]

That mi-wadi line always gives me a guilty laugh cause I'm always sure someone will disapprove cause it sounds borderline racist in this kinda context(obviously not the intention)its a great phrase though

England a supposed WC semi finalist team have no problem resorting to bullying a 19 year old to declare for them even when he has 3 Ireland caps, in that case I think it’s not that big a deal to at least ask Redmond if he interested in going to other way.

[Cathalsmart]

Yep. One call from Southgate and this is all over. If Southgate said to him there was a 20% chance of being in his plans Redmond drops us like a hot rag.

To be fair the way things are going Southgate go as far as ring a league 1 player and say there is a chance. It seems he is on a mission to stop any Irish qualified player playing for us and the Wayne Rooney cap vs USA shows he has no problem de-valuing a cap just for reasons outside of football.

[Stuttgart88]

What are people's thoughts here on Will Addison playing rugby for Ireland?

[Diggs246]

What are people's thoughts here on Will Addison playing rugby for Ireland?

If he had played for the England Senior team. Same as Redmond no rhanks

[Diggs246]

Ive 3 issues with Nathan actually
Played for Eng v Germany
Was on the bench for a competitive game Eng v Lithuania i think
Was asked by the FAI to come on-board when he was with Norwich and said no thanks im waiting for England

[IsMiseSean]

If he had played for the England Senior team. Same as Redmond no rhanks

Why do you see the senior team as different from the underage teams?
I'm not sure if I'm right in thinking we've never had a former English U21 international declare for us. If so, would you have an issue with an Eng U21 player switching to us?

EDIT - I've just seen your post above.
So is the issue with the player himself or with the idea of an English international switching?

[Diggs246]

Why do you see the senior team as different from the underage teams?
I'm not sure if I'm right in thinking we've never had a former English U21 international declare for us. If so, would you have an issue with an Eng U21 player switching to us?

EDIT - I've just seen your post above.
So is the issue with the player himself or with the idea of an English international switching?

International switching, he is a senior English player

I genuinely do they there is a big difference between underage and the senior national team. The whole country supports the national team, while its only family and nerds like us who watch the underage stuff for the most part anyway.

[Olé Olé]

What are people's thoughts here on Will Addison playing rugby for Ireland?
Addison said he was always the kid that supported Ireland growing up. He seemed to infer we were his first choice. Rugby is a bit different in that an opportunity to join an Irish province would have had to present itself before he could come on board. Kieran Marmion and Sam Arnold, for example, also had Irish blood and took the opportunity at a younger age.

[Olé Olé]

Little side note on Redmond since he was asked to join. I scoured his mother's Twitter for anything recent on Ireland. Nothing really. One thing I noticed is she constantly tweets Cyrus Christie congratulations with shamrocks etc. He's a similar age to Redmond and from a similar area. They weren't ever at the same pro club (Coventry v Birmingham) but they could be mates.

[pineapple stu]

Just looking at Redmond on wiki - he has 78 caps for England at all levels.

I know that shouldn't matter if his mum's Irish, and I know it's good to see players apparently genuinely keen to play international football in this cynical day and age, but it does still seem a step too far. 78 caps like.

I think the issue again being highlighted here though is that we're really inadequate at bringing our own players through. We have to feed off English cast-offs as a result, which can only grate.

[Olé Olé]

Just looking at Redmond on wiki - he has 78 caps for England at all levels.

I know that shouldn't matter if his mum's Irish, and I know it's good to see players apparently genuinely keen to play international football in this cynical day and age, but it does still seem a step too far. 78 caps like.

I think the issue again being highlighted here though is that we're really inadequate at bringing our own players through. We have to feed off English cast-offs as a result, which can only grate.

And he clearly doesn't regret picking up any of those caps: https://twitter.com/NathanRedmond22/status/880111008559370240?s=19

[The Fly]

Why do you see the senior team as different from the underage teams?
I'm not sure if I'm right in thinking we've never had a former English U21 international declare for us. If so, would you have an issue with an Eng U21 player switching to us?

EDIT - I've just seen your post above.
So is the issue with the player himself or with the idea of an English international switching?


International switching, he is a senior English player

I genuinely do they there is a big difference between underage and the senior national team. The whole country supports the national team, while its only family and nerds like us who watch the underage stuff for the most part anyway.

It doesn't really require explanation. The difference is self-evident.


And he clearly doesn't regret picking up any of those caps: https://twitter.com/NathanRedmond22/status/880111008559370240?s=19

Nor should he.

[Diggs246]

Nathan's "Irish" mum really has the green, white and orange running through her veins!
https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2759&stc=1

[irishfan86]

Is that Redmond's jersey? If so I think we can give her a pass for supporting her son....

[Diggs246]

Is that Redmond's jersey? If so I think we can give her a pass for supporting her son....

I doubt it, as he was a sub he wouldn't have had an 11 jersey ( maybe one of his under age ones though)

[irishfan86]

I doubt it, as he was a sub he wouldn't have had an 11 jersey ( maybe one of his under age ones though)

That's what I'd assume it would be, a jersey from his underage years.

[IsMiseSean]

I'm surprised Tets hasn't been in to move us all to the 'potential eligible players' thread.

Must be on Christmas leave from foot.ie. The place is falling apart without him.

[Eminence Grise]

Nathan's "Irish" mum really has the green, white and orange running through her veins!
https://foot.ie/attachment.php?attachmentid=2759&stc=1

Ah, leave her alone. She's only wearing a potential eligible player's threads...

[geysir]

i heard the breen interview and thats exactly what he was saying

The only thing we know is that Mick said he would meet with Redmond, I'm pretty sure Gary hasn't got the foggiest notion about Redmond, his ethnicity or what would be his motivation if he did reply in the positive.

But we do know that Gary doesn't put much thought into his ultra beliefs and is dumb enough to state "he's not even Irish", especially when considering Nathan was an automatic Irish national from birth.
According to Gary's reactionary gospel, Ciaran Clark was not even Irish, with his many appearances for England wiping away all trace of his Irish ethnicity. And when Ciaran was no longer selected for the England u21 euro qual squad, he declared for Ireland, as a career move and possibly a nice time at the Euros.
When you travel down the path of Gary's argument, behind his nationalistic guff just lies contradiction after contradiction.

[samhaydenjr]

Signed a new three-and-a-half year contract today: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0220/1031808-obafemi-signs-new-southampton-contract/

Wait a minute, I thought it was impossible to commit to Ireland while in the process of negotiating a club contract - how does Obafemi manage it?

[Sullivinho]

Signed a new three-and-a-half year contract today: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0220/1031808-obafemi-signs-new-southampton-contract/

Wait a minute, I thought it was impossible to commit to Ireland while in the process of negotiating a club contract - how does Obafemi manage it?

Poppin' collars: Ten German bombers. 🇬🇧
Arms folded: Green, White n' Golded. 🇮🇪

https://i.imgur.com/tJXp5b6.png

[tetsujin1979]

Manager spoke about him today, should be involved against Arsenal at the weekend: https://southamptonfc.com/news/2019-02-22/press-conference-round-up-arsenal-vs-saints-premier-league-1819

[TrapAPony]

Came on as a sub and went off within 20 minutes due to a hamstring issue

[samhaydenjr]

Came on as a sub and went off within 20 minutes due to a hamstring issue

Somebody needs to start doing yoga... that's his second hamstring issue in his very young senior career

[tetsujin1979]

out for the rest of the season with a hamstring problem.
get well soon lad
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[Diggs246]

out for the rest of the season with a hamstring problem.
get well soon lad
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Tits anyway

[SkStu]

Poppin' collars: Ten German bombers. ����
Arms folded: Green, White n' Golded. ����

https://i.imgur.com/tJXp5b6.png

Poppin Collars: Man o' the match honours
Arms Folded: hamstring, hold it

[Razors left peg]

You'd worry for a young lad long term who has persistant hamstring injuries. Can often lose them the explosiveness that made them a good player.

Hopefully they can fix it properly so that he has full season next

[samhaydenjr]

out for the rest of the season with a hamstring problem.
get well soon lad


And the talented young Irish striker injury curse strikes again