Irish Abroad 2014/2015

[DannyInvincible]

I assume Nolan (born in Ireland to two Ireland-born parents) is currently eligible for Ireland only, unless he has a grandparent or grandparents from somewhere other than Ireland.

In principle and in line with article 7 of the Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes (http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/AFFederation/Generic/02/41/81/55/FIFAStatuten2014_E_Neutral.pdf), he'd first have to acquire Spanish nationality to ever become eligible for Spain. Possibly he already is a Spanish citizen. If he sought to play for Spain before five years of residence there post the age of 18, as is required by article 7(d), he/the Spanish association would have to apply to the FIFA administration/Players Status Committee for an extra-legal exemption to be made so that the article 7(d) criterion be waived. Further info on this here: http://foot.ie/threads/147164-Eligibility-Rules-Okay?p=1805274&viewfull=1#post1805274

Charlie is correct to say that the likelihood of an exemption being granted is high considering he's lived in Spain for over half a decade, although any exemption would be dependent on Nolan already being a Spanish citizen.

Irrespective of all of this, however, he'd remain eligible to play for Ireland under article 5 as Irish is his birth nationality.

Edit: Until he was (hypothetically) capped competitively at senior level by someone else, effected a switch between two other associations for whom he also might be eligible or effected a switch to another association after first having represented Ireland competitively at under-age level, of course.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I honestly don't know where to begin if someone who was born and bred in Ireland to Irish parents contemplates choosing Spain over Ireland.

Jack Harper was born and bred in Spain and there is no question of his allegiance to Scotland.

[TrapAPony]

Jack Harper was born and bred in Spain and there is no question of his allegiance to Scotland.
His father says that if he is still overlooked at U21 level for Scotland that he will consider playing for Spain.

[Charlie Darwin]

I remember a time when dads weren't this involved in players' international careers.

KICK DADS OUT OF FOOTBALL

[gastric]

Jeez, I hope Kwame Ampadu, Tony Scully and Mark Kinsella don't read this heresy!

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/inverness-caledonian-thistle/509504/undefined-headline-882/

Doran abused on the street again. Shock. Horror.

[DannyInvincible]

Six Irish players in Four Four Two's list of top fifty English Football League stars: http://balls.ie/football/259152-four-four-two-top-50-football-league-players-2015/

They are:

6) Daryl Murphy
19) Harry Arter
21) Keiren Westwood
34) Sean Scannell
36) Eoin Doyle
41) Paddy Madden

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/04/01/report-celtic-considering-surprise-summer-move-to-sign-alan-dunn/

Alan Dunne linked with shock move to Celtic.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/goal-machine-adam-rooney-boosts-5384301

85% of Scottish Daily Record readers think Adam Rooney deserves Ireland call up on the back of his Scottish League exploits. despite failing to score in a brothel while playing in League One and League Two.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-boss-russell-slade-8965876

Eoin Doyle set for run in Cardiff team; Joe Mason set to return.

http://www.herald.ie/sport/noels-in-the-hunt-for-ipswich-return-31113322.html (http://www.herald.ie/sport/noels-in-the-hunt-for-ipswich-return-31113322.htm)

Noel Hunt could return before the end of the season.

[Eminence Grise]

Adam Rooney deserves Ireland call up ... despite failing to score in a brothel while playing in League One and League Two.

He's no Wayne Rooney, that's for sure.

[samhaydenjr]

I had to check the rules on this topic but I think I'm safe ground - just couldn't put it in his own thread - Jack Grealish has made his first Premier League start against QPR and appeared to play quite well, according to the BBC text, before being replaced by Joe Cole on 70 minutes. Ciaran Clark also starts for Villa, with Shay Given on the bench. Reece Grego-Cox is on the subs' list for QPR but hasn't come on yet

[tetsujin1979]

Man City's Tom Holland is on trial at Sunderland, and played for their u18's today against Liverpool: http://www.safc.com/news/reserves-and-academy/2015/february/u18s-beaten-by-liverpool

on trial at Swansea now. Played for their U21s against Leeds recently: http://www.comeonyouswans.com/news/swansea-give-trial-to-man-city-youngster-tom-holland_2015_03

[Bungle]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3030577/Aston-Villa-s-21-captain-Kevin-Toner-tracked-host-Premier-League-clubs.html

Good to see. He's obviously got a lot of talent.

[tetsujin1979]

As with all Daily Mail articles, its validity is directly proportional to the amount of text in it, without pictures and leading bullet points.

[Olé Olé]

As with all Daily Mail articles, its validity is directly proportional to the amount of text in it, without pictures and leading bullet points.

Informative, though, in that I wasn't aware he was captaining their under-21 team frequently at that age and his contract is up in the summer.

[liamoo11]

Informative, though, in that I wasn't aware he was captaining their under-21 team frequently at that age and his contract is up in the summer.

kelleher the 17s keeper signed for liverpool his brother is he celtic centre half in the 19s i think

[tetsujin1979]

Corey Whelan made his U21 debut for Liverpool during the week. He lined out with Alex O'Hanlon and Daniel Cleary, against Spurs, with Kenny McEvoy in their side. Liverpool won 3-1.
Liverpool review: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/183729-yesil-at-the-double-in-spurs-rout
Spurs review: http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/u21-liverpool-home-report-170415/

[samhaydenjr]

Corey Whelan made his U21 debut for Liverpool during the week. He lined out with Alex O'Hanlon and Daniel Cleary, against Spurs, with Kenny McEvoy in their side. Liverpool won 3-1.
Liverpool review: http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/183729-yesil-at-the-double-in-spurs-rout
Spurs review: http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/u21-liverpool-home-report-170415/

That's really positive news, particularly with him only being 17. With three players in the Liverpool U-21 team and highly-rated Conor Masterson in the U-18s, along with a number of other well-regarded players in their late teens and early twenties and either breaking into their respective teams or on the verge of doing so (Grealish, Grego-Cox, Byrne, other Byrne, Browne, Williams, Hoban, Baba, Poame, Lawlor, McEvoy, Kavanagh, Duffy, Murray, Lenihan with a bunch of others we haven't even talked about) is there reason to start getting a little excited about the next few years? Will a good number of this group make it and strengthen the National Team significantly or is it still too early to speculate?

[CraftyToePoke]

That's really positive news, particularly with him only being 17. With three players in the Liverpool U-21 team and highly-rated Conor Masterson in the U-18s, along with a number of other well-regarded players in their late teens and early twenties and either breaking into their respective teams or on the verge of doing so (Grealish, Grego-Cox, Byrne, other Byrne, Browne, Williams, Hoban, Baba, Poame, Lawlor, McEvoy, Kavanagh, Duffy, Murray, Lenihan with a bunch of others we haven't even talked about) is there reason to start getting a little excited about the next few years? Will a good number of this group make it and strengthen the National Team significantly or is it still too early to speculate?

Its lovely to see but too early to raise hopes on most of those lads just yet. The list glows with potential, you are correct, but there is still a journey to say 6/8 of these being established first team regulars in top tier clubs, or tier two at that, a journey so many potential stars don't complete.

[samhaydenjr]

Its lovely to see but too early to raise hopes on most of those lads just yet. The list glows with potential, you are correct, but there is still a journey to say 6/8 of these being established first team regulars in top tier clubs, or tier two at that, a journey so many potential stars don't complete.

I know what you're saying and of course you have good reason to be cautious - most players who go through academies don't go on to become big stars - there just aren't enough places to accommodate those coming through - so for every potential Robbie Brady there's a potential Richie Partridge or Sean Thornton or Conor Clifford. And 18 months ago the list of players I mentioned would definitely have fallen under the "too early too say" category when trying to judge their potential to have significant top two division careers. But over the past year or so the following players have really got their careers going: Jack Grealish had an excellent few months at Notts County, then started getting regular Premier League substitute appearances before getting a couple of starts recently; Reece Grego-Cox has come off the bench for some (admittedly short) premier League action for QPR; Alan Browne immediately broke into the Preston team and may be playing Championship football next season; Derrick Williams is now firmly established at the League One Champions and will go into next year's Championship with two seasons' experience under his belt; Tommie Hoban has cemented his place at The Championship table-toppers and may be playing Premier League football next season; Sean Kavanagh is a regular in the second tier, as is Shane Duffy and, to a certain extent, Sean Murray. So quite a few are already delivering on their potential to a fair degree, at least, while the others I mentioned are still making decent progress through their respective academies. And of course there are dozens of other Irish youngsters at academies in England and probably a clutch of young League of Ireland players who could turn out to be good enough to play at or near the highest level over the next few years. So while it's true that we shouldn't get over-excited about Irish youngsters getting places in big English clubs' youth systems, I think there's beginning to be definite cause for optimism for the future of the National Team.

[CraftyToePoke]

My comment was aimed more at Byrne, Byrne, Lawlor, Baba, Poame, McEvoy & Leinihan and their equals you see. But if this current qualifying campaign were to implode in the next game or two, then several of those others you mentioned should be given the experience to be gained in the remaining fixtures, certainly.

[paul_oshea]

interesting read at 17 making is u21 debut
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/04/18/liverpool-teenager-corey-whelan-hailed-as-superb-by-reds-under-2/

[liamoo11]

interesting read at 17 making is u21 debut
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/04/18/liverpool-teenager-corey-whelan-hailed-as-superb-by-reds-under-2/
I wonder if he is still on board for us as he has not played since the 17s qualifiers last season with no 18s or 19s appearances this year despite playing for the pool in the euro under 19 league. Maybe he just victim of Paul doolin like cleary o hanlon and jack Byrne this year

[liamoo11]

That's really positive news, particularly with him only being 17. With three players in the Liverpool U-21 team and highly-rated Conor Masterson in the U-18s, along with a number of other well-regarded players in their late teens and early twenties and either breaking into their respective teams or on the verge of doing so (Grealish, Grego-Cox, Byrne, other Byrne, Browne, Williams, Hoban, Baba, Poame, Lawlor, McEvoy, Kavanagh, Duffy, Murray, Lenihan with a bunch of others we haven't even talked about) is there reason to start getting a little excited about the next few years? Will a good number of this group make it and strengthen the National Team significantly or is it still too early to speculate?
Is poame at Sunderland. Has he made big impact this year? Sam Byrne has had poor year at Everton maybe due to injury hope he got more than one year deal last summer

[samhaydenjr]

My comment was aimed more at Byrne, Byrne, Lawlor, Baba, Poame, McEvoy & Leinihan and their equals you see. But if this current qualifying campaign were to implode in the next game or two, then several of those others you mentioned should be given the experience to be gained in the remaining fixtures, certainly.

Sure, I understand. But even with these players, there's every chance a few of them will succeed - Jack Byrne has had a very good season at Man City, Noe Baba was highly sought after before joining Fulham, as was Conor Masterson before Liverpool offered him a seven-figure deal at the age of 13. Alex O'Hanlon's career is progressing nicely as is Daniel Cleary's. Kenneth McEvoy made a good start at Peterborough before injury affected his loan, Ian Lawlor has already been called up to the senior international squad (yes, yes, I know - Terry Dixon and Conor Clifford - but still...) - so a lot of potential for the next couple of qualifying campaigns.

[Charlie Darwin]

I think we'll be lucky if one of them makes it as a long-term international. We have very promising crops all the time but making it to the next level is always the hardest part. The evidence of the past decade or so is that the players who make it are the less heralded.

[tetsujin1979]

Joe Rafferty won Rochdale's goal of the season for this strike against Peterborough in February
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[tetsujin1979]

Sam Foley won several of the end of season awards at Yeovil Town: http://www.ytfc.net/news/article/end-of-season-awards-2423582.aspx

[tetsujin1979]

Conor Hourihane named Barnsley's Player of the Year: https://twitter.com/ConorHourihane/status/592952505488781312

Really enjoyed the @SheffieldStar football awards last night! Nice to be named Barnsleys Player of the Year!! Thanks for the messages ⚽️����

[tetsujin1979]

Billy Clarke and Mark Yeates among the winners in Bradford's end of season awards: http://www.bradfordcityfc.co.uk/news/article/mcardle-dominates-player-of-the-year-awards-2429727.aspx

[tetsujin1979]

U18 player Kyron Farrell has signed his first professional contract with Millwall: http://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/article/quartet-sign-pro-deals-2432879.aspx

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Was wondering what happened to Lee Lynch.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32052409

Released by Hamilton back in March with little or no fanfare, he didn't make a single appearance for the club.

[Charlie Darwin]

Lynch was injured going over - not sure how much that has to do with it. He asked to be released as far as I know.

Couple of Irish scorers in League Two today: Devitt, Keohane, Conneely.

[Irwin3]

Lynch was injured going over - not sure how much that has to do with it. He asked to be released as far as I know.

Couple of Irish scorers in League Two today: Devitt, Keohane, Conneely.

You missed Michael Harriman for Luton. 3 wins in the last 13 games saw them **** away a playoff place and finish 8th.

[Charlie Darwin]

It's started.

Colin Doyle, Gavin Gunning and Callum Reilly released by Birmingham: http://www.bcfc.com/news/article/birmingham-city-2441045.aspx

Jake Carroll and Anthony Gerrard released by Huddersfield: http://www.htafc.com/news/article/huddersfield-town-retained-list-201415-2441638.aspx

[tetsujin1979]

Bobby Moseley on that list of players released from Birmingham as well

[Charlie Darwin]

Padraig Among released by Morecambe too: http://www.morecambefc.com/news/article/padraig-amond-released-2442141.aspx

[tetsujin1979]

Paul Corry among those released at Sheffield Wednesday: http://www.swfc.co.uk/news/article/owls-reveal-player-list-2442178.aspx

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Wow. I didn't see any of those coming, apart from Corry, and maybe Carroll.

Disappointing and ominous start to the summer transfer window.

Particularly disappointed for Gunning.

[tetsujin1979]

Must player releases are announced soon after the season ends, it gives the player in question as long as possible to find a new club before the transfer window closes.

[Charlie Darwin]

Must player releases are announced soon after the season ends, it gives the player in question as long as possible to find a new club before the transfer window closes.
I think all the league clubs (barring maybe those in play-offs) had to submit their lists to the FA today.

[eitoof]

Padraig Among released by Morecambe too: http://www.morecambefc.com/news/article/padraig-amond-released-2442141.aspx
Slightly surprised by that. Wonder will he try to find another club in the UK or return to LOI?

[eitoof]

Lynch was injured going over - not sure how much that has to do with it. He asked to be released as far as I know.

Couple of Irish scorers in League Two today: Devitt, Keohane, Conneely.

Keohane's goal was an absolute cracker.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32625817

Alan Dunne released by Millwall after 22 year spell at the club.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/full-list-premier-league-free-9198950

Full list of Irish players available on free transfer this summer.

Some of the bigger names include Damien Delaney, Richard Dunne, Paul McShane, Stephen Quinn and Jon Walters.

[liamoo11]

Great to see joe murphy get Chesterfield move to play in semi second leg hope he gets them promoted always thought he was good keeper who could still play in top league

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/11/oldham-darren-kelly-poice-death-threats

Bigotry against the Irish in England rearing its ugly head again.

[CraftyToePoke]

Kane Ferdinand listed and David Norris released by Peterborough United
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32656238

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Norris was at Peterborough?!

Things have went really down hill for him since the handcuff celebration.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Dimaio & Coustrain's deals extended at Sheffield United.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/sheff-utd/sheffield-united-two-more-leave-the-lane-1-7263445

[samhaydenjr]

Elvis Costello moves to Fleetwood Town: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32751109