European Qualifying 2013.

[JC_GUFC]

Yeah, if I supported Sligo I'd be playing down the importance of the coefficients too... And European.football altogether.

[TheBoss]

Slightly off topic but I think it deserves a mention, Tre Penne became the first Sammarinese club to win a match in European competition after beating Armenian champions Shirak 1-0.

[pineapple stu]

Good result.

6/5 on Pat's seems quite generous, no?

[Redzer]

Yeah, if I supported Sligo I'd be playing down the importance of the coefficients too... And European.football altogether.
And if I supported Galway, I'd be playing down the attendance of Mervue & Salthill and up the importance of the U19's....

[gufcfan]

and up the importance of the U19's....
We have no opinion either way on that now. Vested interests have locked us out of that now too.

[Acornvilla]

C'mon now lets not start discussing Galway's woes in a European thread, This is one you have no right to be in!

[Redzer]

We have no opinion either way on that now. Vested interests have locked us out of that now too.
Please please stop. I can't take any more. Your breaking my heart:sad:
Joking aside. Ye have to stop wallowing in self pity. Passion alone will not run a football club. I understand and sympathise with strong feelings. But, ye must come up with a viable solution.
Vested interests???? Come on.

[mightaswell]

We have no opinion either way on that now. Vested interests have locked us out of that now too.
what? How has GUST lost the U19's?

[gufcfan]

I fancy Pats to beat Zalgiris by 2 and Drogs lose by two after keeping the visitors out for an hour.

PM sent to mightaswell. Point about GUST was in reply to a point made by someone else. Won't mention or reply to mentions of it again.

[gustavo]

Agree with that, and when I hear people banging on about the leagues co-efficient for a reason for a love in when other teams are playing in Europe besides your own I think yawn you super fan.
The irony of you throwing around the phrase "super fan" :)

[Dodge]

But co efficients are important. If Pats win the league they will be seeded next year in the CL (most likely) and play a welsh team or the likes rather than a toughy from Norway for example.

But clubs earn that themselves. Drogheda's draw againt Malmo added 0.025 to Pats (and every one else's) coefficient

Even Shamrock Rovers run to the group stages only added 0.15 to Pats/Derry/Sligo and the rest

[Sean South]

The irony of you throwing around the phrase "super fan" :)

I'm alot of things but not a "super fan" ;)

[pineapple stu]

Damn right. Sure you're not even from anywhere near Limerick. Barstooler.

[bennocelt]

But clubs earn that themselves. Drogheda's draw againt Malmo added 0.025 to Pats (and every one else's) coefficient

Even Shamrock Rovers run to the group stages only added 0.15 to Pats/Derry/Sligo and the rest

Yes noted, but didnt Derry move up into the 2nd round this year as the LOI were next on the list - like Sligo last year in round 3?

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Dodge - presume tickets will be available on the gate tomorrow evening?

[Terry]

Linfield progress to the next qualifying round after a 3-0 home win tonight

[thischarmingman]

Slightly off topic but I think it deserves a mention, Tre Penne became the first Sammarinese club to win a match in European competition after beating Armenian champions Shirak 1-0.

They were also three down from the first leg.

[Dodge]

Yes noted, but didnt Derry move up into the 2nd round this year as the LOI were next on the list - like Sligo last year in round 3?

Yes, but to what advantage? Instead of maybe Sligo and derry getting favourable 1st roudn draws and maybe winning a tie or 2, they get knocked out immediately.

The year Sligo entered the 3rd round, they played a Ukrainian side and lost. They earned 90k from the tournament

Pats won in rounds 1 & 2 and lost to a Ukrainian side in Round 3. They earned €270k from it (90 per round).

It's now €100k per round.

[swinfordfc]

Good luck to St Pats (expect them to win tonight) and to Drogs tonight (tough one away but you never know)

[bennocelt]

Yes, but to what advantage? Instead of maybe Sligo and derry getting favourable 1st roudn draws and maybe winning a tie or 2, they get knocked out immediately.

The year Sligo entered the 3rd round, they played a Ukrainian side and lost. They earned 90k from the tournament

Pats won in rounds 1 & 2 and lost to a Ukrainian side in Round 3. They earned €270k from it (90 per round).

It's now €100k per round.

Not arguing with you but could be said that they might have also got tough draws in those rounds - around trip to asia like pats?

Either way good luck to the LOI teams today:)

[Charlie Darwin]

How much do clubs actually make net from European games? I was under the impression the 100k was to cover costs.

[Dodge]

How much do clubs actually make net from European games? I was under the impression the 100k was to cover costs.

Depends on expenses, which vary from game to game. Clubs gets €100k (or at least did last year) for each of the first 3 Europa League games. UEFA calls them "solidarity payments" rather than expenses. You get to keep your home gate and any profit you make on merchandise etc.

Drogheda will do OK as Malmo is cheap to get to. They had to rent Tallaght though. Pats trip cost more but they should get a decent home crowd. Really can't give a figure for net profit though

In the champions league it was €140k per round played (1st, 2nd, 3rd QRs) with another 200k if you don't make the CL Groups.

So Sligo are guaranteed 340k so far (140+200). If they win v Molde they're guaranteed 580k (140+140+200+100) (2nd+3rd+NonCL+EL play off)

EDIT: There's no payments for rounds you don't play in. So Derry don't get money for round 1, when they enter at round 2

[nigel-harps1954]

EDIT: There's no payments for rounds you don't play in. So Derry don't get money for round 1, when they enter at round 2


Ah, now there's the catch. I was under the impression they did get that money.

[nigel-harps1954]

Any streams for tonights games?

[TheBoss]

Any streams for tonights games?

I can't find anything, Twitter & Radio it is :)

[TheBoss]

Malmo v Drogheda United Live Commentary:

http://www.lmfm.ie/boxtube/

[Cuyahoga]

I'm listening to the drogheda game on the radio on LM FM. 0.0 after about 25 minutes. drogs playing well. Fabio had a good chance that was well saved.

[Cuyahoga]

1.0 to Malmo. Just before half time.

[nigel-harps1954]

Rosenborg 2-0 up on Crusaders at half time too.

[CuanaD]

Rosenborg 2-0 up on Crusaders at half time too.
4:1 now

[Schumi]

4:1 now

6-2 now, apparently. :eek:

[nigel-harps1954]

Is there any stream or radio coverage of St Pats?

[pineapple stu]

Five minutes for Drogheda to grab an equaliser and progress.

Though in fairness, even at this, they've done very well, I think. Malmo are a decent side, second in the league (and in season too).

[Charlie Darwin]

Sounds like Drogheda will come up just short. Any idea how they played?

[pineapple stu]

Also, Airbus UK have gone out on away goals. A first-ever European campaign for them and two draws; decent performance.

Dudelange draw and go out 1-0 on aggregate; two other Luxembourg sides have gone through. Huge improvement for them in recent years; they'll be getting very close to us in a couple more years at this rate.

[pineapple stu]

7-2 Rosenborg now. 9-3 on aggregate.

[nigel-harps1954]

7-2 Rosenborg now.

[bullit]

Is there any stream or radio coverage of St Pats?

COMMENTARY

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/st-pats-live-commentary

[CuanaD]

2:0 - game over - UL but well done Drogs

[pineapple stu]

2-0 Malmo. Goals in injury time in either half. Unlucky.

[Cuyahoga]

2.0 to Malmo 49 mins gone in 2nd half. Hard luck drogheda.

[nigel-harps1954]

2-0 Malmo...hard luck Drogheda.

[Charlie Darwin]

Where is there a Dundalk fan to remind us they wouldn't need luck if they'd played the first leg in Oriel?

[White Horse]

Hard luck to Drogheda, plucky performances over two legs, but the gulf in quality was too large.

Time to get back to the day job and their fight against relegation.

[Mad Moose]

Great effort by Drogheda Utd over two legs.

Come on St Pat. Time to tune into this one.

[pineapple stu]

Prestatyn Town through on penalties against Liepajas (who beat Cork a few years back)

The League of Wales has gone weird lately. Airbus, Prestatyn and Bala all making their European debuts this year. Not helped by three recent decent teams (Barry Town, Llanelli and Rhyl) all having major problems.

[ger121]

Good win for Prestatyn away from home. Overturned a 1st leg deficit with 2 late goals and went through on penos. Some of the "lesser" nations getting better each year.

[Nesta99]

Where is there a Dundalk fan to remind us they wouldn't need luck if they'd played the first leg in Oriel?

They wouldnt have needed luck if they had played the first leg in Oriel!! :p

[nigel-harps1954]

Thoroughly enjoying the commentary on Pats ustream channel. I feel like shouting at them at times to concentrate more on the match however.

[Dalymountrower]

Hard luck to Drogheda, plucky performances over two legs, but the gulf in quality was too large.

Time to get back to the day job and their fight against relegation.

Surely Dundalk wont have to battle against relegation again this year?