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DannyInvincible
12/07/2013, 7:45 PM
First year since around 2002 I think that no Irish side will progress through even one round.
Don't fret just yet; don't one of Cliftonville or Celtic still have to go through?!
Ahem...
Linfield won't appreciate your implication! :p
Nesta99
12/07/2013, 8:53 PM
In the wake of last night's debacle in Inchicore, I think the league needs to institute new incentives for teams to excel in European football, via a domestic "coefficient" system. Victories in European competition should be rewarded with bonus points (up to a maximum of six) in the league. Admittedly this risks perpetuating the existing hierarchy within the league, but a bit of stability in our European qualifiers might not be such a bad thing. This system would also discourage clubs like Pat's from becoming blasé about European competition and prioritising the league.
Are you for real? How about reasonable incentive for winning our domestic league with decent prize money first. Domestic co-efficient??? Ive heard it all now.......
Charlie Darwin
12/07/2013, 9:49 PM
How about we just scrap the league and pool all our best players in the four European sides? Bonus payments and lashings of hot domestic co-efficient for all!
peadar1987
12/07/2013, 9:53 PM
How about we just scrap the league and pool all our best players in the four European sides? Bonus payments and lashings of hot domestic co-efficient for all!
That's given me this really exciting and original idea. How about we get rid of the national league, and just have four provincial sides. You know, like in the rugby. Sure everyone would come and watch the league then, and we'd probably be bringing home a European trophy every other season.
Charlie Darwin
12/07/2013, 9:56 PM
That's given me this really exciting and original idea. How about we get rid of the national league, and just have four provincial sides. You know, like in the rugby. Sure everyone would come and watch the league then, and we'd probably be bringing home a European trophy every other season.
We should get Scotland and Wales involved too and form some sort of "Celtic League".
ArdeeBhoy
12/07/2013, 10:00 PM
Ahem...
Besides probably NB and possibly your brother, the vast majority of their fans would disagree...
That's given me this really exciting and original idea. How about we get rid of the national league, and just have four provincial sides. You know, like in the rugby. Sure everyone would come and watch the league then, and we'd probably be bringing home a European trophy every other season.
Well, they could barely do much worse...
DannyInvincible
12/07/2013, 10:47 PM
That's given me this really exciting and original idea. How about we get rid of the national league, and just have four provincial sides. You know, like in the rugby.
Y'serious?! That's an awful idea. Given its size, Dublin should also have a proper team of its own; they could be called something really innovative and catchy, like the Dublin Dons.
Nah Nah Nah Nah
13/07/2013, 6:34 AM
That's given me this really exciting and original idea. How about we get rid of the national league, and just have four provincial sides. You know, like in the rugby. Sure everyone would come and watch the league then, and we'd probably be bringing home a European trophy every other season.
Can we play in Drom?
peadar1987
13/07/2013, 7:04 AM
Can we play in Drom?
Connacht would need a new 50,000 all-seater stadium. Probably in Termonbarry.
thischarmingman
13/07/2013, 2:23 PM
I saw the first game. Not games then, game.
From that I got the idea that Pats felt they did enough and thought they would finish the job at home. Looks like I was right.
Ah, the less-spotted paul_oshea's annual trek north of the forum to pass verdict on the country's football clubs. It's been a pleasure, as always.
Waiting with baited breath for your expert analysis of Derry's defensive frailties in Trazbon.
Spudulika
13/07/2013, 4:03 PM
I know that there is 60% tongue in cheek about the provincial set ups, and the rest is looking longingly at a sport that rescued itself from bankruptcy, but maybe there is some sort of truth to it. Ireland gets x places in Europe and 4 sides go forward (rep sides). I am going to dig it out, but I know for sure there were suggestions at a football conference from smaller countries where something similar would come about. It could have been countries like Iceland, Malta or some such, where they said they;d have 3-4 Euro places and put together teams across the clubs.
Sorry for Pats and Drogs, but they have lots to do at home.
Are you for real? How about reasonable incentive for winning our domestic league with decent prize money first. Domestic co-efficient??? Ive heard it all now.......
I assumed he was joking !
I don't give a toss what anyone else in the league thinks about Pats performance. Yeah, we were poor enough, didn't create a decent chance all game. Having said that we were very comfortable for the first half hour, conceding just on half time was a killer. They weren't that poor either, very quick and lively on the break, especially after they scored. We've done very well in europe for the past few years, this is a bad year, but so what ? Every team has them, even Man U had had their european disappointments. We just need to put it behind us and keep going in the league now.
Spudulika
13/07/2013, 6:01 PM
Tony, more importantly, win the bloody cup! :-)
Ezeikial
14/07/2013, 11:24 AM
According to extratime.ie Derry and Sligo have had their respective league matches next weekend postponed because of Euro involvement.
This is a welcome and positive development.
Previously the FAI would not initiate postponements. Can anyone clarify if the initiative has come from the FAI or have they simply approved an agreement to postpone between the relevant clubs?
http://extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/10677/
Due to Derry City and Sligo Rovers participation in European ties next week, their games in the Airtricity Premier Division have been postponed. No new dates for these games have been announced. Their opponents, St. Patrick's Athletic and Drogheda United respectively, both failed to progress to the next round in the Europa League this week. Sligo Rovers will face Molde of Norway on Wednesday in the Showgrounds whilst Derry City travel to Turkey to take on Trabzonspor on Thursday. Postponed Airtricity Premier Division games Derry City v St Patrick's Athletic Drogheda United v Sligo Rovers
ATFC-1887
14/07/2013, 11:38 AM
Just seen on Twitter Sligo Rovers have denied Extratime.ie a press box spot. Thats a disgrace. A site who cover the LOI week in week out and Sligo dismiss them probably for some billy bigtime reporter who never goes to LOI games. Disgrace
Spudulika
14/07/2013, 1:17 PM
Apparently it's something to do with Norwegian reporters taking up space - that is partially true.
Ezeikial
14/07/2013, 1:44 PM
Apparently it's something to do with Norwegian reporters taking up space - that is partially true.
Of course Norwegian media are taking up some of the available places - that's normal. It does not explain why extratime.ie have apparently not been allocated media space
Sam_Heggy
14/07/2013, 2:14 PM
Poor form by Sligo. Extratime give the League great coverage, where most other media outlets wouldn't give you the wind of their fart.
nigel-harps1954
14/07/2013, 5:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
sheao
14/07/2013, 10:54 PM
It is a shame that the extratime.ie lads won't be allowed at the game on Wednesday. Given it is volunteer run, the service they provide is fantastic .
poster
15/07/2013, 12:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0
What financial advantage would it give Rovers not to let et in?
This sh1te about media not giving the time of day to LOI games. Each of the Irish media outlets that will be present on Wednesday will cover all our games be it through freelance reporters there on behalf of the paper or full-time reporters coming from Dublin.
Ezeikial
15/07/2013, 1:22 PM
Still no explanation as to why ET appear to be denied a media place
Olander
15/07/2013, 1:32 PM
Still no explanation as to why ET appear to be denied a media place
Is it not fairly obvious? Space. Have you ever seen Sligo's press box? On a normal match night you couldn't swing a cat in it, nevermind on the night of a Champions League game. Sligo are (I assume) catering for their local press and the national media. Plus, I'm sure it's some sort of requirement to make room for the visiting teams media team. It's not really rocket science. It's harsh on extratime but they need to get over it. I'm sure if there was space, they would be allowed to cover the game. What do you propose? Eh, Sligo Rovers should turn away local media outlets who have been giving them coverage every week for years and years? Or for them to turn down national media coverage? They are also obligated to cater for the away team's media. Who should they turn away to make room for Extratime.ie? Think about it. It's Sligo's prerogative to choose who is allowed in their press box, they are looking after their own clubs best interests. I'm sure your club would do the same if they found themselves in a similar position.
Is it not fairly obvious? Space
Every LOI ground has the same problem. All the clubs provide an overflow area near the press box for additional journalists.
I'm surprised extratime went public with the refusal. I guess they'd have had to field questions about it on Wednesday and they're hoping Sligo find room for them through the magic of public pressure
(On a slightly related point Sligo also refused to give media accreditation to the lads who do internet commentary for Pats fans yesterday)
Charlie Darwin
15/07/2013, 3:21 PM
Poor form by Sligo. Extratime give the League great coverage, where most other media outlets wouldn't give you the wind of their fart.
I'd say most of the ET reporters cover the games for local papers anyway. Not sure if that's the case in Sligo.
Ezeikial
15/07/2013, 4:43 PM
Is it not fairly obvious? Space.
Brilliant
Have you ever seen Sligo's press box?
No
On a normal match night you couldn't swing a cat in it, nevermind on the night of a Champions League game.
On a normal match night, extratime.ie would be there reporting. No?
Sligo are (I assume) catering for their local press and the national media.
I am afraid that you are assuming to answer for Sligo when clearly you are guessing.
It's not really rocket science. It's harsh on extratime but they need to get over it. I'm sure if there was space, they would be allowed to cover the game. What do you propose? Eh, Sligo Rovers should turn away local media outlets who have been giving them coverage every week for years and years? Or for them to turn down national media coverage? They are also obligated to cater for the away team's media. Who should they turn away to make room for Extratime.ie? Think about it. It's Sligo's prerogative to choose who is allowed in their press box, they are looking after their own clubs best interests. I'm sure your club would do the same if they found themselves in a similar position.
Are you often this condescending?
Eh, Sligo Rovers should turn away local media outlets who have been giving them coverage every week for years and years?
Certainly not - but I hope you see the irony is this statement in relation to extratime.ie
It's Sligo's prerogative to choose who is allowed in their press box, they are looking after their own clubs best interests.
You really think alienating extratime.ie is in Sligo's interests?
. I'm sure your club would do the same if they found themselves in a similar position.
Thats the thing - I have no idea what Sligo's position is. I would be amazed if most clubs would exclude them
TommyT
15/07/2013, 5:43 PM
they are looking after their own clubs best interests. I'm sure your club would do the same
It is clearly in the interests of Sligo Rovers FC that extratime.ie grows and prospers. Online outlets like it are a great way to circumvent the paucity of coverage in sectors of the media (less of a problem for Sligo than it is for most due to strong local media coverage). You could never predict what other people would do with certainty but I would hope that my club would not do this
Olander
15/07/2013, 5:50 PM
So if your club had no room to facilitate extratime who would you shun so they could cover the game? local or national media?
Ezeikial
15/07/2013, 6:50 PM
According to extratime.ie Derry and Sligo have had their respective league matches next weekend postponed because of Euro involvement.
This is a welcome and positive development.
Previously the FAI would not initiate postponements. Can anyone clarify if the initiative has come from the FAI or have they simply approved an agreement to postpone between the relevant clubs?
http://extratime.ie/newsdesk/articles/10677/
Interesting comment form Mick Cooke on MNS to the effect that the FAI told Drogheda that they would not postpone league matches for clubs in Europe - therefore Drogheda did not make any postponement request.
bullit
15/07/2013, 7:42 PM
Pressure pays off
Extratime.ie News @ExtratimeNews (https://twitter.com/ExtratimeNews)
We have been accredited for @sligorovers (https://twitter.com/sligorovers) European game & therefore will have full coverage.Thanks to Sligo Rovers and to our followers
Expand (https://twitter.com/ExtratimeNews/status/356859997931577344)
avvenalaf
15/07/2013, 8:25 PM
It is clearly in the interests of Sligo Rovers FC that extratime.ie grows and prospers. Online outlets like it are a great way to circumvent the paucity of coverage in sectors of the media (less of a problem for Sligo than it is for most due to strong local media coverage). You could never predict what other people would do with certainty but I would hope that my club would not do this
You have to be in Europe to have the problem.
sligoman
15/07/2013, 10:31 PM
(On a slightly related point Sligo also refused to give media accreditation to the lads who do internet commentary for Pats fans yesterday)Were they looking to get in for free as some sort of 'media'? If so then the club were dead right.
ArdeeBhoy
15/07/2013, 11:47 PM
Why?
Most media requests, within reason, are facilitated...
Dodge
16/07/2013, 12:04 AM
Were they looking to get in for free as some sort of 'media'? If so then the club were dead right.
Sure, the radio commentary is "some sort of media". Not a fan then?
MeathDrog
16/07/2013, 12:08 AM
Were they looking to get in for free as some sort of 'media'? If so then the club were dead right.
Cowboys eh?
bullit
16/07/2013, 1:31 AM
Betting from PP for midweek Euro matches-
Weds ECL
Sligo R 13/5 Draw 23/10 Molde 1/1 (ko 6pm)
Thurs EL
Trabzon 1/12 Draw 15/2 Derry 16/1 (ko 7.30pm)
nigel-harps1954
16/07/2013, 2:31 AM
Sligo 13/5 at home...against a struggling Molde side..tempting.
Also, I don't care if Derry are going to play Barcelona..16/1 is worth a shot with a fiver.
Charlie Darwin
16/07/2013, 9:50 AM
So if your club had no room to facilitate extratime who would you shun so they could cover the game? local or national media?
They'd make room.
sligoman
16/07/2013, 10:02 AM
Sure, the radio commentary is "some sort of media". Not a fan then?Not overly familiar with Pat's one but personally I wouldn't class the internet commentary guys as official media and so would expect them to have to pay in like everyone else.
Sligo 13/5 at home...against a struggling Molde side..tempting.
Also, I don't care if Derry are going to play Barcelona..16/1 is worth a shot with a fiver.We're the ones struggling, Molde are in great form (haven't lost in last 9 league games), just had a slow start. With the way we're playing/injuries a draw would be great. Don't waste your money on us...or Derry for that matter.
ArdeeBhoy
16/07/2013, 10:07 AM
Clearly you've never been in a Press Box, SM?
Seems a bit harsh.
sligoman
16/07/2013, 10:11 AM
Clearly you've never been in a Press Box, SM?
Seems a bit harsh.There seems to be an ever increasing number of people with media passes these days, I do wonder how the league isn't better covered tbh. Maybe it's harsh but I have no problem with the club on this.
Dodge
16/07/2013, 10:46 AM
There seems to be an ever increasing number of people with media passes these days, I do wonder how the league isn't better covered tbh. Maybe it's harsh but I have no problem with the club on this.
I should point out I've no problem with clubs saying no to any media they wish. Personally I'm not a fan of the internet commentaries either.
On general accreditation, it is true that some people get a media pass solely to get into games free. I don't believe this is the case with extratime though. They have tons of people writing for them so as long as they nominate the person reporting on the game, I think they should always try to be accomodated.
Even with league games, where there won't be the same pressure on space, as long as sites/papers nominate their reporters, there shouldn't be an issue
Mad Moose
17/07/2013, 4:31 PM
Best of luck to Sligo Rovers against Molde this evening. Big Game, big big ask but the bigger they are the harder they fall and you never know your luck in this game.
adamd164
17/07/2013, 4:33 PM
Is the Sligo game tonight on telly somewhere?
Wiziwig have it down for online streaming.
markc1184
17/07/2013, 4:36 PM
All the best to Sligo tonight, winnable game for them, and to Derry tomorrow also. Tough draw for them.
Is the Sligo game tonight on telly somewhere?
Wiziwig have it down for online streaming.
No, not on any TV station
Charlie Darwin
17/07/2013, 4:41 PM
No, not on any TV station
Even on Norse TV?
No, without a host broadcaster I'd imagine it'd be very expensive for them to film
bullit
17/07/2013, 5:00 PM
Radio Commentary
http://oceanfm.ie/
Charlie Darwin
17/07/2013, 5:19 PM
No, without a host broadcaster I'd imagine it'd be very expensive for them to film
Yet again, the apathy of the average Irish football fan ruins it not only for us but people in other countries as well.
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