Richard Keogh

[Stuttgart88]

Martin O'Neill was sparing in any praise of Duffy against Costa Rica. I think he said he needs to improve his footwork. I don't see why it's a crime for Keogh not to single out Duffy for praise if the boss doesn't either.

I'll concede that he does appear very happy to talk about himself though. Not a big deal for me really.

My view on Keogh is that in the Championship he's great at winning high balls in blood and thunder games. Unfortunately those games don't happen in international football and the modern CB needs good feet too. I don't think Keogh is a good enough athlete, reader of the game or all round footballer to face fast technical players who can pull defences all over the place. The Championship is fast but quite one dimensional and he's very at home at that level.

[the doc]

Martin O'Neill was sparing in any praise of Duffy against Costa Rica. I think he said he needs to improve his footwork. I don't see why it's a crime for Keogh not to single out Duffy for praise if the boss doesn't either.

I'll concede that he does appear very happy to talk about himself though. Not a big deal for me really.

My view on Keogh is that in the Championship he's great at winning high balls in blood and thunder games. Unfortunately those games don't happen in international football and the modern CB needs good feet too. I don't think Keogh is a good enough athlete, reader of the game or all round footballer to face fast technical players who can pull defences all over the place. The Championship is fast but quite one dimensional and he's very at home at that level.

Very good post.

At international level you need a bit extra to your game.

Some players are more suited to international football, despite the club or league they play in.

Clark, Delaney, Keogh, Pearce and Wilson don't have that.

[Razors left peg]

Very good post.

At international level you need a bit extra to your game.

Some players are more suited to international football, despite the club or league they play in.

Clark, Delaney, Keogh, Pearce and Wilson don't have that.

But St Ledgers does?

[DannyInvincible]

At international level you need a bit extra to your game.

Some players are more suited to international football, despite the club or league they play in.

Clark, Delaney, Keogh, Pearce and Wilson don't have that.

Subtle.

You're getting better at this.

[DeLorean]

Clearly just after reading one of TOWK's comments (http://balls.ie/football/the-most-terrified-irishman-in-a-kit-launched-this-season/)

http://i.imgur.com/Rue27vX.jpg

[Crosby87]

"He's witnessed some terrible atrocity" haha. He just saw Russell Brand do his act.

[DeLorean]

Derby County look at new deals for Richard Keogh and Chris Martin (http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-ponder-new-deals-Richard-Keogh-Chris/story-22734993-detail/story.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz3APaM4soR)

DERBY County are looking at new contracts for skipper Richard Keogh and last season’s top scorer, Chris Martin.


After striker Jamie Ward put pen to paper on a two-year deal yesterday, head coach Steve McClaren said: “We have got two or three to go.


“I think the club is looking to do something with Richard Keogh and Chrissy Martin.


"We cannot have players looking over their shoulder, we need them looking forward.”

Keogh is in the final year of his contract, as is Martin, although his deal also has a 12-month option.

[KK77]

A good championship player.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Keogh still has the thousand yard stare after his gaffe in the Playoff final and being given the runaround by Portugal.

He is the oldest looking 28 year old I have ever seen.

[tricky_colour]

Keogh still has the thousand yard stare after his gaffe in the Playoff final and being given the runaround by Portugal.

He is the oldest looking 28 year old I have ever seen.

He's the youngest looking 58 year old I've ever seen.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

http://dcfcfans.co.uk/topic/16135-charlton-v-derby-county/page-33

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2729147/Charlton-3-2-Derby-New-boys-George-Tucudean-Yoni-Buyens-Igor-Vetokele-score-Addicks-league-goals-maintain-unbeaten-start-campaign.html

Keogh has a mare at The Valley; at fault for all three goals.

[Charlie Darwin]

That's a spectacularly selective reading from the situation. From what I can see of the posts on the final few pages, Keogh was poor for at least two of the goals (another said he was a standout player for all the mopping up he had to do for his defensive partners) and the Mail described the second as "an uncharaceristic Keogh gaffe". A bad day at the office no doubt, and I wouldn't make excuses for him. Seems to be a feeling on the Derby forum that Buxton needs a rest to get over his injury, which you'd think might be a factor in the misfiring defence.

I mean I'm not bending over backwards to defend him here, but there was a certain inevitability about you showing up in this thread to cast the most critical light possible on Keogh's performance, following three impeccable clean sheets.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Spectacular is a bit of an overstatement to be honest. Using similar nitpicking logic, you could defend any bad performance. I never seen anyone being so charitable with Ward, McShane or Sammon peculiarly enough. Maybe it's just because Keogh is my bete-noir.

Going back to the tail end of last season, he has been noticeably or partly at fault for two goals in the Watford game, responsible for the QPR winner in the Playoff final, Costa Rica's other chance that they didn't score in the 1-1, (at least) 4 goals in the Portugal game and all 3 goals in the Charlton game. It's some record for a man of his confidence.

You can divide the blame all you want, and maybe I am being harsh, but you could equally say that in those 2 League games the Derby defence was not tested (which I read on same forum); and the other game was in the cup against a struggling League Two side.

Edit: I believe it was Stutts who said that he looks alright when he is bringing the ball out of defence and that is something that seems to reflect itself in match reports and on the forum, but equally, he seems to have a propensity for getting dominated/outmuscled, ran ragged and committing rash fouls; a somewhat recurring theme from what I/we've seen in recent memory.

[Charlie Darwin]

You haven't been here long enough then. I spent too much of my time defending Stephen Ward after the game in Russia when he correctly followed Arshavin on his numerous infield runs.

Nobody's denying Keogh was at fault for the QPR goal or that he had a couple of bad games for Ireland in the summer, it's your myopic insistence that he and he alone is responsible for virtually every goal his team concedes that grates. You have attributed 10 of the past 15 goals Keogh's teams have conceded directly to his ineptitude, in spite of any mitigating factors including his defensive partners and the ingenuity of the opposition. It's ridiculous.

And then you say "maybe I'm being harsh"! As if there's a remote possibility your completely objective and constructive drive for perfection may have led you to stray momentarily into the realms of excessive criticism, a field that has hitherto never felt the sweet embrace of your velvet footwear.

AGAIN, I'm not a huge fan of Keogh, but goodness gracious I would really hate to cut you off at an intersection. My life wouldn't be worth living. And god forbid I had previously expressed confidence in my driving to a newspaper columnist who had specifically questioned me about my steering.

[the doc]

Players like Keogh in the International squad long yet one of our better defenders struggling to find a club after injury.

Crazy!

[DeLorean]

You can divide the blame all you want, and maybe I am being harsh, but you could equally say that in those 2 League games the Derby defence was not tested (which I read on same forum); and the other game was in the cup against a struggling League Two side.

So when Derby concede it's Keogh's fault and when they keep clean sheets it's due to the opposition being poor. Okay.

McClaren said: "You can't win a game if you concede three goals. We've had three clean sheets before this, but one of our strengths has let us down.

"One of our strengths", he says... crazy fool.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I didn't say every clean sheet is down to the opposition being poor. I said that following that line of argument is similar to passing the buck for Keogh mistake's. Whether they are team errors or not, and I don't think many of them are, he is at least partly at fault and doing something wrong for all of these goals - whether it is positioning, being outmuscled (I remember being mocked when I said he lacks dominance), not attacking the ball and rashly committing fouls.

Go through the highlights for all of those games I mentioned again and how many of the goals am I really being too harsh on him for?

[DeLorean]

I would still laugh at you for saying he lacks dominance at that level. It's probably his best attribute. Premier League and International football would be a lot tougher ask obviously, a simple point lost on nobody.

I have no intention of going through all of the highlights, most of which I have already seen anyway. It would be just as easy to compile a video of all the good things he's done in that period, but that wouldn't tell the full story either.

The recurring point is that you're completely obsessed. Let it go.

[DeLorean]

He did have a stinker last night though!

[DeLorean]

Here are the goals from last night. Not tight enough for the first, turned inside out for the second and ball watching for the third.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShNl0eUF9BM&list=UUsOKCDfSRPwRhnbCqBO8CQw

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

"Meanwhile, Burnley are confident of recruiting Ireland centre-back Richard Keogh before the transfer window closes on Monday after last night lodging a €1m bid for the Derby captain."

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/alone-he-stands-sheridan-awaits-european-fate-283918.html

DeLorean posted a link linking Keogh to Burnley months ago and I scoffed at it. Humble pie may be eaten yet.

Burnley could play a back line composing of four Irish players - Reid, Keogh, Long and Ward - if this were to go through.

[Stuttgart88]

Let's just hope Burnley don't play Portuguese opposition anytime soon.

[DeLorean]

DeLorean posted a link linking Keogh to Burnley months ago and I scoffed at it. Humble pie may be eaten yet.

I know my footie :ball:

[DeLorean]

Offered a new contract at Derby (http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-make-good-deal-offers-Richard-Keogh/story-22844521-detail/story.html#ixzz3BlPnJj00)

Steve McClaren-

“Richard Keogh is a big part of this football club, he is the captain,
The way he plays is kind of special for us. He can come out and play. He can defend, is a good all-rounder and a good leader."

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

He just didn't show it any time he played for Ireland. Or in the Playoff final.

[Charlie Darwin]

Fair play to him, he's worked his way up through the leagues and is reaping the rewards. The next step will be to iron out his inconsistencies and establish himself as an international, hopefully.

[DeLorean]

He just didn't show it any time he played for Ireland. Or in the Playoff final.

Didn't show what? McClaren is talking about what he brings to Derby, at Championship level as things stand. Can you not just be happy for Richie, while reserving the right to be worried if thrown in at the deep end for us? I think most of us would be worried in that scenario.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Burnley have had a bid rejected according to Sky Sports.

They were linked with Shane Duffy early on in the transfer window; it would be great if they went back in for him. If, on the other hand, they are looking for experience, they could do worse than Paul McShane; Hull might be willing to sell after bringing in Dawson.

I could still see this one going through. If it does, Burnley could have a defence comprising of Irish players; Ward on the left, Long and Keogh in the centre and Reid on the right.

[DeLorean]

My gut instinct is that he is happy at Derby, and possibly feels he owes them after his playoff blunder. I reckon he'll sign the contract alright. Chances are that Burnley will be back in the Championship next season anyway and Derby may very well go in the opposite direction.

[DeLorean]

Speculation comes to nothing (http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Derby-County-Speculation-Richard-Keogh-Johnny/story-22860436-detail/story.html)

Expected to sign new contract after returning from international duty.

[tetsujin1979]

Keogh giving another interview in which he puts forward his opinions on the international side: http://vimeo.com/105124959

[gastric]

New contract signed at Derby.

https://www.clubcall.com/derby-county/keogh-agrees-new-rams-deal-1741193.html

[the doc]

Brutal!
Shouldn't be allowed in the Singing section let alone the squad.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Done well on X Factor tonight.

http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/x-factor-stevie-ritchie.jpg

[Stuttgart88]

Brutal!
Shouldn't be allowed in the Singing section let alone the squad.doc, any opinion on Alex Pearce?

[DeLorean]

He wouldn't be as naturally talented as Keogh but with a bit of mentoring who knows. If anybody can turn an average Joe Soap into a superstar, it's Simon Cowell.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Wilson injured...

[DeLorean]

Derby not taking any chances with their main man (http://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/article/injury-update-rams-handed-a-double-injury-boost-ahead-of-brighton-visit-2117064.aspx)

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

.... ok.

[DeLorean]

Nice words about Keogh from Derby's new centre back (http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/03/30/new-derby-signing-these-two-teammates-have-helped-me-settle-in/)

[Stuttgart88]

Can't be true

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

I still see myself in you, Stutts.

[SkStu]

http://gamebattles.majorleaguegaming.com/cdn/gb/arenas/teams/10/164/942/logo20476542221271453832.png

[Charlie Darwin]

Linked with Steve McLaren at Newcastle: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/24/richard-keogh-newcastle-derby-steve-mcclaren?CMP=share_btn_tw

[liamoo11]

Linked with Steve McLaren at Newcastle: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jun/24/richard-keogh-newcastle-derby-steve-mcclaren?CMP=share_btn_tw

I really dont think he is top tier level. He was so poor in scotland , so awful on the ball just seemed to spread panic everytime he was on the ball. How he is ahead of delaney as 4th/5th centre half is hard to understand

[back of the net]

He was so poor in scotland


??

For me he was our best player in Scotland

Some great defending from him

Thought he marshalled Fletcher really well that night

[liamoo11]

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For me he was our best player in Scotland

Some great defending from him

Thought he marshalled Fletcher really well that night

Fair enough. For me he gets his head on things and lauches in to tackles but thats why he is at the level he is at. In scotland he was cheif culprit for just lashing at things or giving suicidal balls to ward to be just hammered up the line. He drove one out for a throw in the first half for what was a routine pass to coleman and went off bollicking coleman and hendrick embarrassing just because he couldnt pass it 10 yards and set the tone of fear and anxiety that gripped that display. O shea and wilson set a completely different tone the last day which allowed us to at least play some football unlike in scotland

[DeLorean]

He's not great but he wasn't too bad that night for a guy with so little experience at that level. He defended well enough for the most part which was the main thing. I think it would have been bit much to expect him to set the tone for anything other than keeping the ball out of our goal, in what was practically his debut, in a seriously high pressure game. O'Shea and Wilson's experience at both Premier League and international level is incomparable, it goes without saying that they're the preferred partnership.

To be fair to him also, a lot of his errors for Derby actually come from maybe trying too hard to set a tone and get things moving. He's fairly determined and ambitious in possession and it often backfires, but a lot of the time it serves his team well also. I'd fear for him at PL level though I must say, especially playing for a flimsy outfit like Newcastle.

[Charlie Darwin]

He drove one out for a throw in the first half for what was a routine pass to coleman and went off bollicking coleman and hendrick embarrassing just because he couldnt pass it 10 yards and set the tone of fear and anxiety that gripped that display.
He was wrong to bollock Coleman, but going from a couple of nervy touches to your conclusion is a monumental leap in logic.

[liamoo11]

He was wrong to bollock Coleman, but going from a couple of nervy touches to your conclusion is a monumental leap in logic.
Fair enough Charles. We were so panicked and he radiated fear. Look he has had a fine career and everyone speaks of him as a great pro and he is a dedicated irish man who has been commited to us since the 18s so hopefully for him he gets move. For me he is at best behind Clark and mc shane for cb for us